Voddie Baucham - The Sabbath and the 4th Commandment - Explained by a 1st day Sabbatarian 

I believe they do apply to NT believers. Same God. These commandments will not save you apart from Gods saving grace in Christ and Christ is the fulfillment of the Law. When you die to sin you don’t continue sinning, however, because how could you if you’re truly born again? You won’t. You will in a sense automatically follow these commands because the Holy Spirit living inside does not sin and would not sin. It is not required to follow the Law because of a Christ, however, if you love Christ you will follow them because of the indwelling of the Spirit and living a truly Spirit-led life. Struggling with sin is prior to being born again. In my view, this is where so many miss the point. We think we can be saved while still sinning and we justify it by stating “we are no longer under the law.” We still have to be holy before God and endure to the end, but how can we do this while still sinning? This needs to be meditated on because so many are confused, but once the Spirit lives and resides in you, then it makes sense to follow the commands simply because it is not you living it out, but the Spirit.

@@andrewoverholser491 I agree. Thank you so much for your response.

@@richardamantite678 really? Okay, well I see you are not a Sunday Sabbatarian, so when Hebrews says there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God? What does that mean?

@@kac0404 a passage we agree on

@@kac0404 when you say observe it like the Jews did, what do you mean? With all of the same restrictions?

Blessings to you and family.

Awesome , we also do that. And here in Europe a lot of people are making that choice. Gods sabbath is a true and God given feast. No human interpretation

"Yah's Calendar" Whew!!!!!!! My God.

Amen! Shabbat is a blessing and treasure to those who keep it. This is the only commandment where God specifically says, "Remember" the Sabbath to keep it holy 🙌🏼📖

Amen amen amen!!!

I will definitely pray for you. God be with you in your determination to follow Him.

I was in the same situation and God provided for me and I no longer work in a job that requires Sunday. God will also make a better way for you.

@@LA-qk5bw which job were you in before?

By the grace of God, you will get through this! I have been out of work for a few months and it's been a blessing because I've had to lean solely on God and that's what we're supposed to do. I live by Matthew 6 verse 33, " but seek first the kingdom of God and HIS righteousness and all of these things will be added to you. " every good thing comes from God. All of our needs will be met from HIM....through our faith in HIM. God bless you

@Crystal G. remember when Paul says each of us are to be convinced in our own mind. Please refer to Romans 14 verse 5. I don't remember the exact words. I switch between Saturday and Sunday depending on what needs to be done. The fact is, I try to live everyday for the Lord, but I take one day each week complete rest and focus on Him. After all Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man. He wants us to rest and not stress. God rested on the seventh day. God bless you take care

I am not Catholic but misinterpreting their beliefs and spreading propaganda is not going to get you a foothold in heaven.

That Catholic “church” did not change anything. They lied to you, and you believed them

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So every Friday evening you light candles in your home, switch of all electricity except security lights and have supper with your family?

@@tyranmoses5521. And don’t light a fire in your home? Including the furnace - when it’s 14 degrees (F) outside? Wow. Dedication.

@kadi2420 the Sabbath is in the Old Covenant but we are living under the New Covenant. So, Sabbath keeping is not mandatory.

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@williamward9278 but that's not what the Bible says. It doesn't say have your Sabbath DAY. Isa 66:22,23; Luke 4:16; Acts 17:2; Acts 16:13; Ps 92:1; Jer 17:27, 35; Gen 2:2-3; Exo 20:8...

@williamward9278 You're mixing rest with Sabbath. The rest in Matt 11:28 is not the same as keeping the Sabbath. Look at the Hebrew and Greek translation of both. Also, the Acts 20:7 did not indicate the Sabbath was changed or there's a new day of worship, or a new sanctified day or remembering who our creator is. You really need to study this topic more as well as history which shows the 1st century Christians were not confused about the Sabbath until Rome started making changes.

@williamward9278 you do realize the disciples were Jews so you're saying they just started worshiping on the 1st day of the week without any specific command from Jesus. Read Hebrew 4 and please explain where you find the 1st day as the new day of worship or rest? The early Christians ceased from their work and rested on the Sabbath. The hatred between the Jews and Gentiles caused the early Christians to change things to avoid being associated with the Jews... that's antisemitism, but we don't have a problem with a Jew converting to Christianity and continuing in their Sabbath observance. What empire was in power during the 1st century? Who was the church? Who added new customs? Where did protestantism come from? Once you see the link you will see how things started changing and we adopted so many customs from the Church of Rome into our churches and think nothing of it.

@williamward9278 Acts 20 says they gathered to eat. Havdalah is the meal that marks the end of the Sabbath. That is why they gathered. That is what it says. Paul did some preaching because he was leaving the next day. This was NOT a gathering intended to replace the Sabbath. Observance of the Sabbath is one of the most repeated Commandments. John 20 says that Mary arrived at the tomb while it was still dark and Jesus was already gone. He rose on the Sabbath. Don't believe the lies from Rome. Loving YHVH is keeping his Commandments. If a person doesn't love him, they choose to not obey him. The one we obey is the one we serve. Romans 6:15-16

I agree

I don’t agree If he was wrong don’t y’all think the lord himself would tell him

@@AlaskathelastfrontierHe has. In His Word. It is the standard by which we measure all things.

My thoughts exactly.

"Easter" day/date, changes from year to year. Call it what it is, RESURRECTION DAY, so people will remember that great day and not think that it is about bunny rabbits and Easter eggs.

“Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.”-Exodus 20:8-11 (NIV) **The 7th day of the week is Saturday**

I honestly don’t understand how believers think the sabbath is on Sunday. The Catholic Church changed the day.

Right and Sunday is Sun God worship day. Deception people think it's so easy all I got to do is believe in Jesus. The devil just has to trick ya just ask Eve.

Sarah, the important thing is to do what God says: Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates: 11 For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Well said

@bobbi2235 Though God doesn't change, His New Covenant changes for the Church and it comes with its new stipulations; the Sabbath is in the Old Covenant but we are living under the New Covenant. So, Sabbath keeping is not required.

How do we know its Saturday if they didnt keep the days of the week back then? Genuinely curious I do not know for myself

@@sammygeiger3562 check in the Jewish calendar, you’ll see that they actually kept days. Only one day in the Bible has a name, the seventh-day. It is called the sabbath. Assigning a name to a day was a sign of worship back then, that’s why in the roman calendar all days have names because they used to worship a different god for each day.

@@sammygeiger3562 it is clear in most languages that Saturday is the sabbath (Spanish for example: Saturday = Sabado). For biblical, reference look at Mark 16:1-2. It shows that Jesus was resurrected on the first day (after the sabbath was passed). And it is globally accepted that Jesus was raised on a Sunday. Luke 23:54 also talks about preparation day (before the sabbath) which is known in the Jewish community as Friday. I don’t know for you, but it is common that people are willfully blinded on this subject because the evidences are so clear… but, God only knows the heart.

@@sammygeiger3562 The order of the days has never changed. In addition God will never allow things to get so chaotic and out of order that no one will know the actual truth.

Hahaha because they are puppets controlled by the puppet master's

Thank you for your comment

There aren't seven sabbaths in a week though, the Word says the seventh day is YHWH's holy day and a day of rest for His people. The name for Saturday in 161 out of 180 countries is Sabbath. The day itself is called Shabbat all over the world. May we keep studying to show ourselves approved, the great deception abounds. Bless you

@@brandyD33 If your resting in Christ Jesus yes...there are 7 sabbaths a week. But if you talk about a certain day. Hebrews does say as long as you call it TODAY. Sure there is. The deception is saying it isn't so. Your flirting with heresy there Brandy. HERESY: That the Sabbath is NOT merely a shadow pointing to Christ, as the shadow of a palm tree at sunrise in the desert points straight to the palm tree. Which leads yo to this heresy HERESY: That Jesus Christ did not REPLACE the Law of Moses with the Law of Himself on the cross. I am starting to think you have a secret heresy. HERESY: That Ellen G. White is the Holy Spirit of Prophecy.

@terrygreenman1540 FYI the Sabbath is in the Old Covenant but we are living under the New Covenant. So, Sabbath keeping is not mandatory.

He is good but he gets the Sabbath doctrine wrong

@@EricHenryJnr in this particular video? Or in another one? And how?

there no such thing as a sabbath doctrine. Just a sabbath day law that stood in the old testament commands. We are under a New Covenant with NEW Law that superceeds the old. Do not submit yourselves again to a yoke of bondage. Otherwise you fall away from Grace. that is through Christ and what he has Done because none of you are capabale of keeping a thing let alone a day Holy. Doing the veryt hings the pharasees did...making doctrines out of laws. By a Woman which paul rebukes.... leading any church of people... he also rebukes false prophets. Why on earth are you under a doctrine that was created by someone who claims to know the day of the Lord? @@EricHenryJnr

Thank you for your support look out for a series on the first four comandments ru-vid.com

@@EricHenryJnr Many sabbath believers are saying the sabbath is not relevant today pray for them.

Amen

@@richardamantite678 as I thought. You have no answer

@@richardamantite678 can you give a comment on what you understand these verses are saying please?

Amen

God never mentioned Saturday or Sunday

@@Juno_Beach no but the Sabbath falls on as we know as friday sunset to saturday sunset.

no, that is man made law. Christ abolished that law. Mark 2:23-27

and if that's what you came away with after listening to this message from Voddie then you completely missed the point he was making

Hey does voddie even keep the seventh day Sabbath (saturday)?

@@myerfindley5174 no he doesn't

Interesting, the body clearly has what science call a circadian rhythm

@@EricHenryJnr After my original comment, I kept thinking that I don't know enough about the sky. I know very little about astronomy. In my ancestral culture (Native American), and also in many other cultures around the world, there are myths/legends about a cluster of seven stars in the sky often referred to in modern times as "the seven sisters" or "the pleiades". I wonder if those myths can have anything to do with the concept of a week as well.. Anyway, thank you for your work and your reply. Have a blessed Sabbath day, kind stranger.

@@monical2840 there is an old book that speaks of the constellations telling the story of the gospel. This was later became the false zodiac that people look to today. I will find the name and I might be able to email you the pdf. A blessed Sabbath to you too my Sister. 🙏🏾🙏🏾

@@monical2840 Gospel in the Stars or Primeval Astronomy Book by Joseph Seiss

Very good message except for not taking the 7th day for real....sunday dit not replace the 7th day....nowhere in the Bible....sunday is the first day....brother please correct yourself and what you teaches....because it is of the most importance...for me and other believers but above all the truth matters to God.

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But isn’t keeping the sabbath part of being obedient to God?

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@@karej9832 You can take it how you want!! I said what I said.

@@karej9832 read all of Galatians

So true 🙏🏾 The Sabbath is a gift from God.

You are welcome. It spoke to my heart so I decided to share. Blessings

@@EricHenryJnr blessings brother!

Very true brother.

@@kac0404 hello, if all of the law of Moses was done away with, why do we see Gentile believers being given things to keep from the mosaic law? Act 15:19-20 KJV 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. This is new testament.

@@kac0404 the sabbath was instituted in creation, not with moses

You hit the nail on the head! I have another clip that I have posted previously from Question Time 2012 where a panelist says something along the same lines.

Saturday was the Jewish (OT) sabbath. Sunday is the Christian (NT) sabbath. The day that Christ arose from the tomb, and the early Christian’s/ church then met to worship on Sunday.

@@beverlyvleck6445 There is only ONE Sabbath and that's the Sabbath of the Lord our God. He rested on, blessed and sanctified the 7th day and NO other.

Early Christians? When did these early Christians start? If you look at the book of Acts, they were all Jews. They kept the Shabbat as commanded, they went to Synagogue........this is all part of a narrative put out by the church.

@@beverlyvleck6445 The Sabbath was the last thing God created in the physical universe, and the first 2 humans that observed it were not Jewish. Contrary to what this world believes, Jesus stated in Mar. 2 that the Sabbath was created for _all_ mankind. Jews didn't exist as a ppl until the nation of Israel divided into 2 individual kingdoms during the reign of Solomon's son Rehoboam.

What is the truth that he advocates?

@@EricHenryJnr I read _'1st day Sabbatarian'_ - no such animal, the Lords day Sabbath is on the 7th day, can never be on the 1st.

@@tony1685 I hear you and like you, I understand that the Sabbath can only ever be the 7th day of the week. However there are people like ,Voddie Baucham who have convinced themselves that the Sabbath has been moved to the first day of the week. Not just a couple of hours for church on a Sunday morning but the whole 24 hour period of time. So they do exist and they take what they believe very seriously.

@@EricHenryJnr ahhh, so you're exposing the lies of those who don't know better or are sinning out of rebellion - got it! thanks for your clarification, Sir! *Happy Sabbath!!!* - will be the Lords day in just a few hours here in Texas !

@@tony1685 I am trying to expose the errors and solicit your prayers as I change the format of my channel so that by God's grace I can be more effective. Happy Sabbath to you too Sir. Blessings

When you say 'all' ???

yes! I do too! praise YaH!

You keep 614 laws ??? ARE you under the law or grace???

@@williamwest1611 does grace = lawless? The number is 617

@@EricHenryJnr 613 laws! It's all GRACE...GOD'S RICHES AT CHRIST'S EXPENSE...galatians 3:24...the law...ten Commandments were not meant to be kept but to show us how sinful we are and points to the cross of Christ Jesus death burial and Resurrection. Repent toward God and Believe in the person of Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross and receive the indwelling Holy Spirit and the free gift of salvation ephesians 2:8-9...for by grace are we saved through faith and not that of ourselves it is the gift of God not of Works lest any man should boast.

What does that mean?

Also the command to observe the Sabbath is the only one of the ten not repeated after Pentecost.

​@@robertjayroe9900Jesus and his disciples kept the Sabbath and feasts. It wasn't repeated because Jews were already keeping it. They were dedicated to the Sabbath. So much that they added oral laws to it.

Thanks dear, but read Leviticus 23:28-34 to understand the customary Sabbaths that coerelate with Colossians 2:14-16 not a weekly Sabbath instituted at creation

@@korihinojos9698Ty for that answer. Too many use the fact it wasn’t repeated and ignore the fact it was practiced by all of them even Paul observed it. If Christ came to abolish it He and the disciples would have ignored it. They would ignore it as an example for us to follow.

Don't be confused, Romans 14 doesn't refer to the Sabbath. I am doing a video on that shortly

It is not just a matter of resting on that day. It is about keeping it Holy as it is God blessed and sanctified.

Jesus also said, "The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath." Matthew 2:27-28 KJV May the Holy Spirit guide you, and that good for me.

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@Bruce Havelka 💯 if He (Jesus) is Lord of that day, then, it's a day to be recognized.

@@kac0404 he also didn’t go into the city showing himself.

@@kac0404 the Old Testament prophesied that we would keep gods feasts so why would anything change.

Yes, Reformed Theology says that Sunday is the Christian Sabbath and MUST be observed as such.

@@EricHenryJnr Sunday observance? Why? If someone chooses to “keep” Sabbath, at least an argument can be made for doing so. Please make a (Biblical) argument for imposing Sabbath law observance onto a different day.

Nothing huh? 🤔

@@Jaco3688 There is absolutely no biblical reference that Sunday is a replacement for the Sabbath. With that being said. Saturday and Sunday are based on separate principles. Saturday represents a mandatory law of observance made by God under an old covenant. Sunday represents a better covenant away from the law made under Jesus Christ and the freedom he has given us to worship as moved by the spirit and not bound to a law. Under God, people observe because they have to but under Christ people observe because they want to. There is a difference.

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Seventh-day Adventists are Christians.

It’s important to not go by worldly labels sabbath on Saturday doesn’t automatically mean you are seventh day Adventist. It’s simply biblical 😅. I’m not a seventh day Adventist and I practice sabbath which IS on Saturday. Shabbat shalom

@@victorinemputu8323 very true

God will lead you in the way you need to go.

@@victorinemputu8323victor, why haven't you joined God's remnant church - the SDA Church?

A wonderful blessing that applies to All who accept the Lord of the Sabbath.

But, that was God speaking to jews under the old law. Christ wasn't born yet, and the law of Moses was in its full control of earth.. but Christ freed the Holy Spirit, which now writes the law on our hearts. A new law has been written in a new place. The new law written in the hearts of men, does what stone tablets and the old law, could not do..

@@kac0404 yeah, you were supporting the Jewish law of worshipping God on the sabbath.. do we even have to worship God now, or just Jesus? I'm really unclear who owns us now.. Satan told Jesus, he owned everything, cause God gave it all to him, when God took his tabernacle and left earth. Jesus claims he bought everything with his blood and death.. or does God still own me? I'm confused...

@@kac0404 Jesus is one with the father but he isn't God... when Jesus was baptized, the Holy Spirit decended like a dove upon him, and the fathers voice from heaven spake, saying this is my son in whom I am well pleased. In that moment you have proof of 3 separate entities converging at one place. This is proof that Jesus isn't God, he is part of the God head, but he isn't God himself. And Jesus made that clear all through his ministry. I have come to do the will of my father who sent me..

@@kac0404 I did use the Bible and common sense. It just don't fit into your cult taught doctrines... Jesus is part of God, but he isn't the complete God!!!

Glad you enjoyed it. I hope it was a blessing.

You are so beautiful sister! Do you keep the sabbath as well?

@@donje31 Please watch "Who Changed the Sabbath" by Pastor CD Brooks

@@MountCarmel007 I’ve been seen it before

Please share how one can arrive at a seven day week from nature?

@@EricHenryJnr I don't know the exact measurements but it seems every 4*28 days we can drive at noon to new moon,,,there is a 28-day lunar cycle, which is often referred to as the "lunar month" or "synodic month." This cycle represents the time it takes for the Moon to complete its orbit around the Earth and return to the same phase, such as from one full moon to the next full moon. However, it's important to note that the lunar cycle can vary slightly in duration due to the Moon's elliptical orbit, so it may range from about 27.3 days to 29.5 days.

@@EricHenryJnr just look it up.. time is not some cultural friend we can rely on... Time is eternal in the hand of God and we must do our best to understand His intentions over ours..

@@EricHenryJnr from nature?? I will assume you mean by the creator... There are many natural processes like music and natural science that expound on numeric and spacial princicples... Have you ever learned how the most basic way to know if an angle is square??

Sadly, he has chosen to follow tradition (and he almost says as much on my other channel) rather than the plain thus saith the Lord in scripture.

If you read in Daniel 7:25 ,you'll understand the time prophecy.

​​@@EricHenryJnrThis is what has baffled me about this great preacher since I started listening to him, this is a great argument for keeping the Sabbath yet he seems to contradict himself by keeping the tradition of men. Let's keep praying for him. Do you have the link to the rest of the sermon? Does he use the same arguments as most evangelical denominations? Thanks for sharing

He is a great preacher. I'm not in agreement with all of his teachings but he is blessed.

@@EricHenryJnr What are some of the teachings that you disagree with? Just out of curiosity

@@rayword2794 I disagree with the idea of a 1 day in 7 principle at creation. God blessed and sanctified the Seventh-day. Therefore I disagree with the idea that the 1st day of the week being the Sabbath.

@@rayword2794 if we follow this short clip from Voddie which makes clear the regulative principle of worship, how can one suddenly take God's clear cut creation and command and make it a moveable principle. If that were the case then Voddie just destroyed his own analogy

@@EricHenryJnr I see what you mean. I guess it would have been more clear if he spoke about moving the date in this clip itself. Is this the only issue you have with his teachings or is there more?

Blessings

God bless him indeed. Let's pray he comes to a full knowledge of the truth 🙏🏾

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Amen

Yes Saturday os the day.

@@EricHenryJnr The Sabbath day rest was for the JEWS of Israel and not for us today! Go check out Robert Breaker on how to get saved and learn the truth! Boddie is a wolf in sheeps clothing!

@@abomination2theLord really? Thank you for your thoughts

Yes Taylor, we should keep the Sabbath which is on Saturday. Jesus doesn't want you to be confused about HIS Holy day which is part of the 10 commandments that" God wrote with His finger" (Exodus 31:18 ). Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath (Saturday), the disciples kept the 7th day Sabbath (Saturday), and the Bible predicted that a "power would think to change times and laws" Daniel 7:25. The Bible also says the law is a transcript of His character. We keep it not to be saved but because we are saved. Great book to read about this is called the Great Controversy by Ellen White. This will be the issue at the end of time before Jesus comes. Will we follow man's law or follow God's law. God bless and take care. See U in Heaven!!!

Yes

I finally found the full sermon, and I must say, now it’s clear. Sunday… in this sermon, he reads further scriptures and events that make it clear!!! The sermon is called “The Sabbath and the 4th Commandment”!!!

@@Phushprada1 Sabbath is the 7th day of the week which we know as Saturday. Sunday the first day of the week is one of the 6 days for labour according to scripture.

@@kac0404 That is not biblical. He was very specific and said to keep it throughout the generations. The only thing that was done away with was animal sacrifice. He became the ultimate sacrifice. That's why the curtain was ripped from top to bottom. No more animal sacrifice....Just Google who changed the Sabbath or ordered 1st day being the day to sun worship. The catholic church tells you blatantly.

@@kac0404 “The church is above the Bible; and this transference of Sabbath observance from Saturday to Sunday is proof positive of that fact.” The Catholic Record, September 1, 1923. Rome says, “Of course the Catholic Church claims the change was her act...AND THE ACT IS A MARK of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.” Thomas, H. F., Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath. “It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church. ” Priest Brady, in an address at Elizabeth, N.J. on March 17, 1903, (in Elizabeth News, March 18, 1903). “The Church of God has sought it well to transfer the celebration and observance of the Sabbath Sunday ! -Catechism of the Council of Trent p.402 (1937 ) The only person in grave error here is you my friend and through the Holy Spirit i pray that God May help you see the truth for what it is. The sabbath was instituted long before Mt.Sinai .. see Exodus 16: 23-29

@@Phushprada1 "six days shall you labour, but the seventh day is Sabbath unto the LORD God, for on the seventh day God rested from all the work that He had done." "Sun"-day is the FIRST day of the working week, and the Sabbath is on the SEVENTH, now renamed by the Gentiles in honour of the god Saturn ("Saturday"), and on the First Day God began His WORK of creation. Of course very few Christians nowadays heed God's words on "six days shall you labour," preferring to work only 5 instead! Thus they use the term "weekend" to describe "Saturday" (Shabbat) and "Sun"-day, when they themselves preach that "Sunday" is the FIRST day of the week, so it cannot be at the "end"! In Israel the "weekend" follows the Biblical pattern of "Friday" night (Sabbath Eve) and "Saturday" day time (the Sabbath), rather than including "Sun"-day from the week's beginning. In Genesis 1:5 the evening and the morning were the first day, not morning followed by evening as most Gentiles have changed it to, but God puts the evening first, which is why the Sabbath starts in the evening at sunset on "Friday" ("Sixth Day") and not half-way through the dark period at "mid-night" as the Gentiles do, as God said that the lights in the sky (sun and moon) were to divide the days, the sunset being the dividing point. I hope this is somewhat helpful and not too confusing, and that I don't offend any Gentiles out there who insist on following the Roman calendar changed by Pope Gregory XIII instead of God.

He does so because of a traditional stance. He holds to the 2nd Westminster confession 1689. These were great men of faith but they were still struggling to shake off all the bondage from the dark ages. Many Baptiats of that time became 7th day Baptists, because as you say, scripture does not support a 1st day Sabbath position. By God's grace I will be posting more of his material and working through the contradictions in the doctrines.

Maybe I missed it, but i think he never mentions sunday in this video.

@@JV-jq4dt I am going to post the entire series along with some shorter analysis videos

yes it is very strange..... most preachers do believe in the saturday seventh day sabbath......but yet they can't stop themselves from observing and keeping sunday service....this is a good question..... i think some surely know better and are purposefully misleading people while some have convinced themselves that sunday worship is fine and what God desires as long as you are worshipping him... but i also think that some pastors are just following tradition and have never searched for the truth and have no desire to search for the truth.... there's even one pastor out there that believes that we can choose our own sabbath.......i believe he chooses to take tuesday as the sabbath...i think his name is robert morris...he has a book about it too..

I like your point

Okay, how did you calculate such precise timing?

Do you have some contact information?

​@@steps101 Please watch "THE COMING SUNDAY LAW" by Hope Through Prophecy This video will no doubt answer your question.

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Dear 7th day Sabbath worshiper Question is this beyond you as well? Newsflash! SDA Exclusive but this is to you who are 7th day Sabbath worshiper's! GOD-ON-EARTH SMASHES SABBATH LAW! Immediate attention: Seventh-day Adventists around the world! Dateline 28-30AD, Judea. Accounts from official correspondents Matthew, Mark, Luke and John have now confirmed early rumors that God-on-Earth from Galilee has utterly smashed the 1500+-year-old Jewish law proscribing work on the Sabbath. If judicial, ecclesiastical, prophetic and royal annals are correct, it is HIS OWN STATEMENT of the law "written with HIS OWN FINGER on two tablets of stone" that He Himself has now smashed to bits. Reports are that God-on-Earth is to be arrested and indicted by temple and Sanhedrin authorities on the following counts: Indictment-and-Arrest Count #1. Permitting His disciples to REAP grain on the Sabbath and defending their conduct to the Sabbath police. Luke 6:1-5. Type of Sabbath-day work prohibited: Agricultural. Indictment-and-Arrest Count #2. Permitting His disciples to THRESH grain on the Sabbath and defending their conduct to the religious police. Luke 6:1-5. Type of Sabbath-day work prohibited: Light industrial (food processing). Indictment-and-Arrest Count #3. Allowing Simon Peters mother-in-law to "WAIT ON" Him on the Sabbath. Matthew 8:14. Type of Sabbath-day work prohibited: Domestic (waiting tables and chairs). Indictment-and-Arrest Count #4. Commanding a man allegedly invalid 38 years to LIFT his bed on the Sabbath. John 5:1-30. Type of Sabbath-day work prohibited: Light industrial (lifting and loading). Indictment-and-Arrest Count #5. Commanding a man allegedly invalid 38 years to CARRY his bed on the Sabbath. John 5:1-30. Type of Sabbath-day work prohibited: Light industrial (transportation). Indictment-and-Arrest Count #6. MIXING spittle and clay to form a poultice to place on the eyes of a man allegedly born blind on the Sabbath. John 9:1-41. Type of Sabbath-day work prohibited: Light industrial (pharmaceutical). Jewish government officials refuse to return inquiries as to plans for prosecution and trial. But unsubstantiated bulletins have arrived reporting are that they are holding these charges in abeyance while waiting to apprehend God-on-Earth without bail for a much more serious offense, one requiring the death penalty. What the nature of this allegedly much more heinous crime is and any further news will be broadcast as soon as it becomes available. Stay tuned,

@@terrygreenman1540 very creative

@@terrygreenman1540 I hope you know that the Sabbath was a Law that Jesus Himself was there to write. So if you say Jesus, who is the same yesterday, today and forever broke the law, my friend there are some important holes in that theology. He came to show what can be done on the Sabbath. Not that He came to abolish it, goes against what He Himself said that He came not to abolish the law but to fulfil it. He is Lord of the Sabbath. Which Sabbath? The one in the 10 commandments. I understand that God reveals a lot to people at different times. One thing I know for sure is when God blessed the Seventh day, made it holy and called it a Sabbath, He did not change its holiness when He came to earth. He showed how it was supposed to be kept holy.

@@OkayMaybeImDoneNow... Good luck. Old Testament Fourth Commandment Exodus 20:8-11. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. New Testament Fourth Commandment Sorry, my good Adventist/and or Sabbatarian friend. But I searched long and hard and consulted reference works. But I could find NO SABBATH COMMANDMENT. If you think I have made a mistake, I invite you to post below the text containing it.

Correct, but actually keeping a day is far better than denying it outright.

@@jonnbobo l don't completely disagree. I guess the biggest issue I have is when someone teaches something contrary to what Scriptures tells us.

@@sensiblechristian9791 oh man... no kidding... don't get me started on the scapegoat thing from Yom Kippur.... that's one that drives me cray cray

Hello @Sha B, how is it going with you?

@@EricHenryJnr it’s going. I have to work tomorrow which is Saturday. Do you think it’s ok to cut people off? Like NOTHING!! Sometimes I feel I’m being provoked by the enemy to act out in anger. So I just cut these PEOPLE off!! I really don’t know what else I can do but stay away from certain people for a while. I’m praying for GOD to soften hearts.

@@shab7271 I hear you, keep pressing on. A permanent cut off is never good bet some time away from some folks is needed for ones own peace of mind.

You make a lot of good points. I don't know why Voddie stresses the Sabbath and isn't part of a 7th day keeping denomination. It's a lot of inferring and forcing interpretations on scripture. There is no where in the bible that says Sunday is the new Sabbath. I don't recognize any of these reformed guys as true Sabbatarians. I never understood them. They are unbending everywhere else in regards to scripture except in this one commandment.

@@hisfreshness91 Perplexing in this one area; but seemingly willing to circumvent this 1 Commandment.. I’ve experienced others who summarized ; Because Jesus rose on the 1st day of the week, this monumental event changed the charge of GODS Keeping of the from the 7th of the week to the 1 day sunday.. without one line of scripture to suggest the transference.. what’s more amazing is the BOLD STATEMENTS the Catholic Church makes about claiming to be Protestant but keeping sunday as their day of worship. Catholicism does not hide in the least that they,in history , changed the day from Saturday to sunday. They are very open about that. And tradition has many bowing down without one word of remonstrance every sunday in opposition to God’s Commandments.

Thank you for watching. Look out for Voddie's series on the first four comandments ru-vid.com

It puzzles me so much as well

He was wrong when he said not the 7th day but the 7th day is the Sabbath day because he rested after he created the Earth which was the point of the Dabbath to rest from the work he did and creation

It's all in His Word

Where? If you have the Book, Chapter and Verse please? I'd like to read that for myself.

@@steps101 How am I spreading error by asking a question?

@@CrossroadToCountry Mar. 7:7-9. Sunday services are contrary to the law of God.

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 I probably wouldn’t go so far as to say that a Sunday service is contrary to the commandments of God, but if it takes the place of the 7th day Sabbath, then you are correct.

Just look at what all must be false in order to support your sabbatarian doctrine: For all that Adventists and other sabbatarian's spout off about keeping the Law, its amazing how much of the Bible they or you, miss out on. (of course these are not false but to make a point lets say "has to be false" - Galatians 3:19, 23-26 has to be false. If The Law is indeed eternal, it couldn't have been added at any point like Paul said. It also could not have been to last until Christ like He said too. The Law cannot be our tutor to lead us to Christ. And once we have Christ, we need the Law more than ever! This whole passage has to be false! - Romans 10:4 has to be false. If the Law is indeed eternal, then Christ cannot be the end of the law. - Deuteronomy 5:2, 3 has to be false. Moses had to have been lying when he said that the Ten Commandments were not given to their ancestors. - 2 Corinthians 3:7-18 has to be false. Paul could not have been talking about the Ten Commandments here, since they are eternal. Something else must have been etched on stone that caused death and condemnation. Since the Ten Commandments must be eternal, they must be what gives life. The New Covenant cannot be far greater than the Old. Also, the glory of the Ten Commandments could not have been fading since they are eternal. Reading the Law does not put a veil over my face that is removed by the Gospel. The whole passage has to be false. - Romans 1:17 has to be false. Paul could not have meant what he said about being made right by faith. Apparently, since our keeping the Ten Commandments is so important to God, we can be made right with Him by keeping them. - Romans 8:1-4 has to be false. Since the Law is so important to God, then if we break them, it brings condemnation upon us. So therefore there IS condemnation available for those in Christ. Paul must be lying. In addition, he must be lying about the part where he says that Christ fulfilled the requirements of the Law for us. i guess Jesus did it for Himself and then gave us the power to do it and said, "here good luck", instead of doing it for us. - Jeremiah 31:31-34 must be false. Apparently God could not have made a new covenant that was not like the old. Since the first covenant was based on Ten Commandments, and those are eternal, then it cannot be feasible for there to be a completely new one. (New implying that it is brand new, not renewed, not having any aspect of old. That is unless the word "new" doesn't really mean "new". I've already found out that "for us" doesn't really mean that either. Bible's tricky like that.) I just CANNOT bring myself to believe that Paul could be such a liar. Praise God that the Bible really does mean what it says!

@@terrygreenman1540 This is why it is said by these same apostles, "Let every man be called a liar and God be true." If you accept what what man says over and above what God says, you won't understand what man is trying to say. Do not start with "What does Paul say" but rather "What does God say" because you know what, at the end of the day, Paul doesn't have a heaven, God does. What I mean is not that Paul won't go to heaven, no. What I am saying is Paul did not create Heaven and the conditions to enter it, God did. It is His and He has final say. If He says keep My commandments, then He means keep My commandments. whether you understand Paul or you don't, Just do what God says. The term "Thus says the Lord, The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" is quite the powerful statement. Let us, as people being grafted into the covenant promise promised to the Israelites first, obey the God of Israel. Not this current Israel but the Israel of the Bible.

That is the order of things. You rest after you have worked. That is principle. No confusion there. God modelled that out for us. He created first, which to Him is work, and then rested on the seventh day. It's simple and easy. If we are His children, we follow that same pattern. You know? Walking in your Father's footsteps, although this Father has quite the footstep we can't actually fit our own feet in, but we make sure each foot is in the footstep of our Father who has shown us how we are supposed to live. Thank God He came in human form to model that, walking the law, to us. And you have contradicted yourself. Paul has clearly said he planted, Apollos watered. That is work. God then takes care of the rest AFTER we work. Remember what Jesus said. If you do not work, you should not eat.

@@OkayMaybeImDoneNow... I take it with your name that is not too Jewish. DO you not read that the Old Covenant was not given to mankind. Your the one that contradicts oneself. The Ten Commandments , which includes the fourth commandment to remember to keep the seventh day holy, were given to Israel, not to us Gentiles. This means only Israel can break the Law. This is why salvation is only of the Jews . The Ten Commandments were unique to Israel When Moses recited the laws given at Mount Sinai, he said, "Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your hearing today, that you may learn them and be careful to observe them. The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. The LORD did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive" (Deuteronomy 5:1-3). Immediately following this statement are the Ten Commandments and the rest of God's laws for Israel. Notice that Moses said that these laws, including the Ten Commandments, did not exist prior to Israel's arrival at Mount Sinai and that the laws were given to Israel. Now, in case you are among those who try to play word games and object by say "Moses was talking about the covenant, not the Ten Commandments;" turn back to Deuteronomy 4:13, "So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone." The Ten Commandments is the summary of the covenant God made with Israel. You can find nine of the ten commandments in the New Testament. They are not neatly listed as they were in Moses' Law, but the rules still exist. The only one not found in the New Testament is the commandment concerning the Sabbath day. Such shouldn't be surprising. Of the Ten Commandments, the command concerning the Sabbath day was uniquely significant to the people of Israel. "And remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out from there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day" (Deuteronomy 5:15). By the way, this quote is taken from the recitation of the Ten Commandments. While Israel experienced slavery in Egypt and a day of rest was a fitting memorial of their past suffering, such cannot be said for the rest of the nations. Paul stated that the Gentiles benefited from Jesus' death. "And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross" (Colossians 2:13-14). It was the Ten Commandments which were written by the hand of God on tablets of stone. In another letter Paul wrote, "clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart. ... who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious?" (II Corinthians 3:3, 6-8). Hence, if Christians who grew up as Jews wanted to observe festivals from the Old Law, that was fine for them. However, they could not apply their desires on their Gentile brethren. Speaking to the Gentile Christians, Paul said "So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ" (Colossians 2:16-17). Gentiles had no reason to keep the old laws of food, drink, festivals, or sabbaths; such were observed by Jews. The provisions of the Old Law were merely a shadow of the reality of Christ's law and as such were nailed to the Cross. But notice that one of the laws named is the observance of the Sabbath. Not all of the Ten Commandments were carried over into the law of Christ.

@@OkayMaybeImDoneNow... I would also add that the Old Testament does not distinguish IN TERMS OF HOLINESS among (1) yearly festival sabbaths, (2) monthly (new moon) festival sabbaths, and (3) the weekly *festival sabbath. And so, I would agree that that Romans 14 INCLUDES -- but does not LIMIT its message to -- the yearly festival sabbaths. *The weekly sabbath was NO LESS a festival (feast day/ceremonial day) than any of the others. It was, for instance, considered a sin to fast on the sabbath, ANY sabbath (weekly, monthly or yearly). You had to fast on another day. My reasons for this conclusion: 1. Paul would have no motive to limit his instruction to the yearly sabbaths as distinguished (cut off) from the others. For, IN NO INSTANCE does the Old Testament (the only "Scripture" of Paul's day) distinguish among them in terms of holiness -- need to rest and "to not do ANY work." They are "all of a piece," and if one goes, they ALL go. Therefore, in an extremely important sense, Paul here is giving them their due "sendoff." 2. The yearly and monthly sabbaths were never an issue APART from the weekly sabbath. Nor apart from circumcision, or clean v. unclean meats, for that matter. Not to mention the full 613 laws, such as "no wearing a cloak of mixed linen and wool [Deuteronomy 22:11]." It was "the whole ball of wax," "the whole enchilada," "the whole nine yards" that was at issue, nothing less. You either kept the whole "law of 613 laws" as a way to salvation or you considered all 613 as fulfilled in Christ. 3. Romans 14 is interesting in that there Paul allowed for people to keep the seventh day Sabbath holy, the new moon Sabbath days holy, and the yearly festival Sabbath days holy. Conversely you could keep the first day holy, which was also considered the Resurrection day and the "Lord's day," SDA arguments to the contrary notwithstanding (considering the usage of the term "the Lord's day" in the writings of the early church fathers, who were NOT, incidentally, Roman Catholics). Or you could keep all 7 days holy, all 30-31 days of the month holy (Roman calendar, Hebrew calendar, who cares?), and all 365 days of the year holy. Do you see how clever Paul was (in the Spirit)? He effectively destroyed the seventh-day Sabbath AS A TEST of righteousness by ALLOWING Jewish Christians (the SDA's of his time) to keep it. At the same time he effectively DENIED them the right to IMPOSE the weekly Sabbath (along with the monthly and yearly Sabbaths) on the Gentile Christians in Rome and, indeed, all over the Empire. In order to argue as you do, one has to be totally ignorant of the contextual evidence as well as the circumstantial evidence (political, economic, social, racial, religious, educational climate, etc.) of the time and place. Plus to accommodate such SDA reasoning -- and by NO means do all SDAs reason this way -- one has to twist one's brain into a pretzel.

Spot on

Very true

Amen

Excluded from what exactly??

​@@EricHenryJnr The everlasting Sabbath God gave to every man to observe or bare the penalty of not observed or broken. Yes that good only Sabbath command God meant for everyone.

I agree with you 💯 it only goes for the fourth commandment and cannot be applied to any other day

Sunday was another work day in the Roman Empire. On March 7, 321, however, Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating: All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun.

sadly people of scripture weren't christians. Paul visited synagoges thus wrote these same folks he visited in the Acts where gentiles sought him to them them sabbath after sabbath, but of course folks get tricked by christianity to believe different. Saying he wrote churches (a pagan term in origin) when no where in the Acts he visited a church pushes cognitive dissonance and a lie.

The covenants always were Israel (Judah) and no other people but again the cognitive dissonace is pushed. Many of you have marriage covenants but would never push a narrative that another not apart of your covenant merited the benefits and rights to your covenant. Any one outside of Israel must come through Israel with Yahusha as the door into Israel which is the Kingdom of Yahuah.

@@kac0404 Antioch the place named after Antiochus the son of Selucia who was a worshipper of Serapis who's followers were called Christianos which later became Christian this was 300 b.c.

church is not Ekklesia but Kuriakon also, people translated the text to fit a narrative it never applied but again the cognitive dissonance is pushed

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What is the question it raises?

Thank you for your comments

So does that mean, Sunday is the 7th day and this is why we worship him on a Sunday and then work afterwards from a Monday. See, I sometimes wish preachers would just explain in simple terms what the scriptures, especially when it comes to book creation. I find that the rest of the bible, I can understand but that book is fills me with confusion, that book and the revelations. Some scriptures are difficult to understand for some people with no theology background, like me!!!

@@Phushprada1 Christ is our Sabbath rest. We are to rest from our works and rest in him; in what he has done. We rest in him everyday. Come together as a church on any day. The Law given to Israel was a shadow of that which was to come. It pointed to Christ, his coming, and the new covenant he was to bring in, one through faith. And not like the old one of the letter.

@@robertcain3426 Spot on Robert.

@@terrygreenman1540 Thanks for your support in the truth of the gospel as delivered by Paul an apostle to the Gentiles. A lot of the comments here which are in agreement with the keeping the Law, as part of the old covenant between God and Israel, are well meaning and zealous for the Lord. However, lacking understanding. And which can be attributed to the incorrect teaching they've received. I've watched a few of Voddie's videos and I have liked them and think he has a genuine and sincere heart for Christ. In this area, though, he is lacking in the full understanding of the gospel.

@Irvin I will be posting the whole sermon series and showing where Voddie contradicts himself. As you know the sermon Voddie starts with the regulative nature of worship. There is NO way from scripture that 1st day observance is regulative and yes this clip does support my view on this topic 100%

@@EricHenryJnr Sir, Voddie does not contradict himself, I know this sermon. His argument is straight from start to finish. But please do share the entire sermon with those who don't know it, not just the pieces that seem to agree with your standings. Please note that I don't oppose you or any other Christain brother/sister by my comments. I'm only pointing out an error which in all fairness has to be remedied. With that being said, God bless you and those around you brother.

@@irvinkhoza8315 he doesn't contradict himself according to you because that suits your narrative. Explain this how is the 7th day in Genesis 2:3 a principle that is also regulative? Look forward to your answer

@@irvinkhoza8315 Voddie even has his information about the founding of Adventism completely wrong. Even a basic search like Wikipedia would give better information than he does in this particular sermon. I personally love Voddie's preaching but when you are wrong you're just wrong.

@@EricHenryJnr This shall be my last reply. For me to dive deep into answering your question would mean paragraph after paragraph of explaining, of which I do not have the time. However that question Voddie covers in that very same sermon. Just post it in full. And just because something is a principle doesn't mean it can't be regulative.

It makes no sense does it?

💯 I love the way you put that. Could you expand more please 🙏🏿

Thank you for your comments

The law of Moses that was nailed to the cross God told to sit beside the ark of the covenant not inside where the 10 Commandments are. That’s a clear distinction. The 10 Commandments will never pass. Because they define God‘s character. Revelation says that we will go and worship God on every Sabbath. If it were nailed to the cross does he take the nail back out?

@@bygodsgrace86foreverandeve11 I think of the Ten Commandment law as good, but still inferior to the Christ who used Moses to give it to Israel. Let's read a passage of Scripture while substituting the term "the Ten Commandment law" for the term "Moses." We can justify such an exercise, at least for learning purposes, because the New Testament often uses the term "Moses" interchangeably with the term "the law." Example (Mark 7:10 NIV) quoting Jesus: "For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother.'" One can thus, without doing violence to the text, translate this as, "For the law said, 'Honor your father and your mother.'" Now let's do it with Hebrews 3:1-6 (NIV): "Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest whom we confess. He was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as the Ten Commandment law was faithful in all God's house. Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than the Ten Commandment law, just as the builder of a house has greater honor than the house itself. For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything. The Ten Commandment law was faithful as a servant in all God's house, testifying to what would be said in the future. But Christ is faithful as a son over God's house." Thus the "law of Christ" can indeed replace the entire Ten Commandment law in every way, even morally and especially morally, because it is superior in every way, even morally and especially morally. For example, because Jesus was "Lord of the Sabbath" (Matthew 12:8), He could break the Sabbath (John 5:18) and command others to do so as well (John 5:11). Notice also that "the house" analogy still holds: Jesus and His New Testament commandments are superior to Moses and his Old Testament commandments just as the builder of the house is superior to the house itself.

@@terrygreenman1540 If you worship other gods are you showing love to God? Are you still or killed from your neighbor are you loving them? Jesus gave us two Commandments two tablets of stone the first tablet showing you how to love God the second tablet showing you how to love your neighbor.

@@bygodsgrace86foreverandeve11 You said..."The law of Moses that was nailed to the cross God told to sit beside the ark of the covenant not inside where the 10 Commandments are." Not quite. The word "ordnance" means "law," and so your rendering would mean "laws of laws," which is a tautology and therefore meaningless. And in fact it's not what the text says. It says, "the written code, with its regulations," meaning a code or "bundle" of laws. The term 'written code' was "a business term, meaning a certificate of indebtedness in the debtor's handwriting. Paul uses it as a designation for the Mosaic law, with all its regulations, under which everyone is a debtor to God." NIV text note for Col. 2:14. The whole enchilada! Including "thou shalt not murder," "thou shalt not commit adultery," and "remember to keep the Sabbath day holy." The whole nine yards! And not just the Ten Commandments either, but all the little picky rules, such as "no pork" and "don't cut the hair at the sides of your head" and "don't wear flax mixed with wool clothing." Everything. And not only that, but the Bible doesn't -- and the Jews didn't and still don't today -- distinguish between "ceremonial laws of types & shadows" and the moral law! There is absolutely zero scriptural support for any such dichotomy! I notice that you didn't volunteer any, and if you can find some I'd love to see it brought here into this Discussion.

What does God's order say?

@@EricHenryJnr The Bible is teaching that God is a God of order is indirect-we understand that God is a God of order through the negation of the idea that He is associated with disorder: “ For God is not a God of disorder but of peace” ( 1 Corinthians 14:33). This verse is part of a rebuke at the Corinthian church. Their worship services were out of control, chaotic, and even offensive to unbelievers who visited( 1 Corinthians 14:23). The book of first Corinthians is, in part, a letter outlining proper conduct in the worship of God. Paul bases the command for ordering the church service on the fact that God himself is a God of order, not chaos. True Order By Rescue: Genesis 3,41,50. The seed, not a seed. God has fulfilled His promise. He loves His creation so much.

@@michaelschaffran3948 what is the Sabbath?

@@EricHenryJnr The origin of the Hebrew sabbat is uncertain, but it seems to have derived from the verb sabat, meaning to stop, to cease, or to keep. Its theological meaning is rooted in God's rest following the six days of creation ( Gen 2:2-3 ). The Greek noun sabbat [savbbaton] translates the Hebrew noun : The noun form is used primarily to denote the seventh day of the week, though it may occasionally refer to the Sabbath week ( Lev 23:15-16 ) at the end of every seven Sabbaths or fifty days, or the Sabbath year ( Lev 25:1-7 ) in which the land was to be at complete rest.

@@michaelschaffran3948 is the principle for worshipping God, regulative or normative?

I was SDA for 14 years. I initially came into it because I wanted to go to a church that kept Saturday as the Sabbath. But in that time I ended up getting far away from the gospel. I got sucked in to believing Ellen G. White was a prophet. Then my theology began to be based on her rather than scripture. Based on her teaching I thought that He's came primarily to give us an example of keeping the law, to prove that we could too, and if I didn't keep the law and all the SDA rules perfectly I'd lose my salvation I thought. Well for whatever reason I began listening to reformed teaching on justification. Once I clearly grasped imputed righteousness that was the end of legalism for me, and the beginning of the end of my being SDA. I now attend a church on Sunday where the gospel is the central focus, not the law and all kinds of rules that are tied up in salvation.

Amen! Great testimony and interesting list of the word "Sabbath" hiding in plain light in so many languages, yet igored by so many.

@@richardfoster5830 I don't agree with SDA or the veneration of Helen White, but one can still keep the Gospel and free in Christ whilst enjoying God's provision of the Sabbath as a holy weekly rest day, which "Sun"-day is not! Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, not of "Sun"-day or any other weekday as a self-attested title as Messiah. "Sun"-day is named in honour of the "sun", not the "Son."

@@kac0404 Resting on the Sabbath is hardly a certificate of death! Working seven days without it might be! Yeshua said the Sabbath was made for MAN (not just Jews) not man for the Sabbath, so it is for our physical benefit, not for our death. There are different laws with different Hebrew words to describe those laws. Only the ordinances pertaining to that which was done away with, such as the Temple worship and sacrifices, were nailed to the cross, as Yeshua had become our sacrifice for us instead. He did not cancel out the Torah ("teaching") law that provided MAN (not just Jews - according to the words of Yeshua) with essential time off from their six days of labour that He instructed them to do (how many obey His words today in our leisure-based society of working six days a week instead of the lazy 5 or less that is common in the west, apart from in Israel, where I worked 6 days a week?) There the Sabbath was a delight, which the Bible calls it. If it brought death Yeshua would not have observed it in His lifetime or the disciples observing it under His tutelage when they were unable to anoint His body with spices until it was over at the first opportunity after it very early on the first day of the (working) week. When He read from the prophet Isaiah in the Synagogue or "meeting-house" ("Beit Knesset") it says that He went to read on the Sabbath "as was His custom." Sabbath-keeping was normal routine for Yeshua the Son of God throughout His lifetime, although He taught about the right way to keep it in matters related to justice and integrity etc and not to add any man-made traditions and rules on top, as happens in so many Gentile churches today. If the Sabbath brought death or it no longer applied Yeshua would have started teaching against it, but rather He kept it and taught others how to keep it in accordance to God's Word, not according to built up traditions. Even as Son of God, Yeshua too needed a day of rest to recharge His batteries. He did not lead a Sabbath-less life and only gained "spiritual rest" from His Father instead of an actual day as many Christians claim they do "in Jesus" when they don't even know His holy given Name! These same Christians do what Col 2:16 forbids, in that they judge Christians for keeping a holy festival such as Passover, or from resting on the Sabbath, or from keeping a New Moon (honouring the lunar months God set in place instead of the pagan named ones set in place by the Papacy), and when they obey God's loving advice on the eating of unclean meats that even the Gentile Noah knew about long before there were any Jews. These stubborn Christians will keep twisting Scripture in their deceived state until they meet God face to face to defend the doctrines and theology they have built up in their own minds by either misunderstanding or misinterpreting Scripture and then teaching it to others when they are in grave error. That is a very dangerous and haughty path and unless repented of will join those who break the least of these commandments and teach men so, and will become least in the kingdom of heaven. Teachers have the most responsibility of all and will be judged as a result all the more harshly due to their dangerous influence on people and in the Church. Yeshua said He did not come to cancel out the LAW ("TORAH") but to FULFIL. Look up the word fulfil in any dictionary. It does not mean to cancel or abolish, yet that is somehow how many Christians intetpret and perceive it. Fulfil means to meet the ogligations of, not to ignore it. Yeshua fulfilled many aspects of the Torah Law by keeping it, not by cancelling it, as His very words state CLEARLY (unless the reader refuses to listen), and the same apllies to the Sabbath, which He kept, but He nowhere abolished it. There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God. Those who refute this are in error and will be judged by God for peddling untruth. Your conclusion that the Sabbath is part of the ordinances nailed to the cross is simply not true and is robbing the people of God of their God-given Sabbath day of rest that will be in the new heavens and new earth along with New Moons (Isaiah 66) which is why they are a shadow of THINGS TO COME. We will have them in the future too and Yeshua is at the centre of it. He is their very substance as Lord of the Sabbath and even the day He was resurrected on (not that it matters which day) just before the onset of the first day of the week at sunset, 3 days and 3 nights (72 hours) after He was put in the tomb (on Wednesday, not Friday) just before the visitors came to the EMPTY tomb to find that Yeshua was ALREADY RISEN! They did not see Him rise, but He rose BEFORE they came in the closing hours of the Sabbath, His holy rest day. All these things can be studied further and verified if one has a searching heart like the Jews of Berea who checked to see if these things were so. The problem with Christian seminarian doctrine and man-made creeds means that most will just ignore or not even care about the truth contained in God's Word so they can continue to promote their own chosen doctrine over what it actually says in Scripture in the proper context and understanding in which it should be received. I am still being judged by Chistians for keeping holy festivals, the Sabbath, New Moons and in what I eat or drink, when Col 2:16 EXPRESSLY FORBIDS that anyone should judge these things!! Until that is understood Christians will continue to use these verses to persecute those who rest on God's blessed and sanctified Sabbath day. There is none so blind as those who will not see. As Yeshua said let him who has an ear let him hear what God is saying to the churches. But tradition is a very strong thing, which Yeshua said makes the Word of God of none effect.

@@richardfoster5830 praise God for you. Too bad that you had to leave the church to grasp such a basic concept (intellectually. Lol) as justification. It is possible that you simply have not read enough. Maybe you made the same mistake that many do (both with the Bible and the spirit of prophecy), instead of getting for yourself, you rely on others yo get for you. First thing, I believe if you actually read the books of Ellen White you would’ve not made the mistake of basing your faith on her instead of the Bible, because she is against this. Also, she would’ve helped you to get a good amount of understanding on the subjects of justification, sanctification, glorification… and the sanctuary over all. I just assumed that you haven’t read enough of her books… if that’s true I would invite you to do so, and reconsider your decision. Because there’s so much more to learn from the Bible, and from her inspiration

No he doesn't

@@EricHenryJnr Oh really, because that sound exactly the same what Seventh-day Adventist/Baptist are saying.

It does sound the same but he is from the reformed tradition so e doesn't hold to a 7th day Sabbath. However he is still Sabbatarian in his view

These pastor have no clue as to what the sabbath is about.. the sabbath is not kept holy by going to church no where in the Bible teaches that.. That is a doctrine of men. And it is heresy

@@royfloydgibbs9489 Exactly. How is the Sabbath kept holy by meeting on Saturday?

Amen

Has anyone seen the testimony given by Ron Wyatt on his last discovery of the ark of the covenant. He was told by 4 angels the mark of the beast will be about man made laws Sunday law. (Intruguingly enough latest 10 New commandments by pope on Mt sinai delared about climate stuff) may have to play a part in this to follow a rest day globally on Sunday and if that is the case Ron Wyatt was right and if it is doing something against the 10 commandments then that will be taking the mark. Also that after those laws are passed the ark of the covenant will be shown to the world (there includes the original 10 commandments of God)

The 7th day Sabbath was there before sin. It was presented to humanity after sin as a means to come back to oneness with God. Jesus kept the Sabbath and the Apostle Paul (as well as all the other apostles) kept the Sabbath. Isaiah prophesied that all flesh will keep the Sabbath in the new earth (Isaiah 66). While the millennium of rest is a part of entering into God's rest the 7th day Sabbath will always be a part of our worship to God. I would lean further towards keeping it Holy as God intends.

@@pamelar1683 I have seen Ron Wyatt's testimony. It is very interesting. While it is very intriguing my belief in the Holiness of the 7th day Sabbath is founded on Biblical truth, the only sure word for faith and practice.

Thank you, sir, for taking the time to answer . I really appreciate it!! I will study more.

@EricHenryJnr thank you sir! One more question. I was fasting on Saturday as a way to keeping it holy. Is fasting mandatory for sabbath ?

Is Christ your life?

@@EricHenryJnr by faith, yes. 100%!

@@StefanReBorn indeed by faith, yet you are still expecting to eat from the tree of life. Jesus is also my rest but he gave humanity a day. In Spirit and in Truth

@@EricHenryJnr my rest, is from sunday till saturday! 😉 Gby brother

@@StefanReBorn that makes no sense Brother. So when does work take place? Poor Theology

I agree with you. Be aware though that there are those who take Sunday as seriously as the Pharisees took the Sabbath.

@@EricHenryJnr I can see that. Hopefully, those who observe Sunday will review scripture. In no way am I saying/suggesting that observing Sabbath is the "key" to salvation...however, I do believe that obedience to God is key. Knowingly rejecting Sabbath in favor of Sunday is not something I believe God supports in His word...

@@frazierwoods9912 I agree with you completely

Deut 5:1-5

Indeed

It's part of our DNA

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Is that in addition to keeping the Sabbath holy?

AMEN

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Indeed it was

bunny please explain how I am misusing Voddie's teaching? What about NCU and what is the Reference to EGW statement about?

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Where in the Gospels is that?

@@kac0404 WRONG AGAIN. LOOK AT THE CONTEXT AND YOU WILL SEE PAUL WAS PREACHING ON THE EVEN PART OF THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK UNTIL MIDNIGHT. HE WAS NOT HAVING ANY SUCH THING AS A SUNDAY SERVICE IN THE MORNING. HE ALSO WALKED MOST OF THE DAY PART OF FIRST DAY TO MEET UP WITH HIS FELLOW LABORERS IN ASSOS. SO SAD YOU CANNOT SEE WHAT IS RIGHT THERE IN THE VERSE 7.

@@kac0404 I AGREE WHERE YOU SAID (IF IT IS YOUR OWN WORDS AND NOT COMMENTARY FROM SOMEONE ELSE) THAT, "it takes a lot of gall and outright rebellion to change what God called holy, the seventh day, to the first day of the week without having distinct direction from God." YES INDEED IT WOULD, AND THAT VERY THING IS WHAT THE WORK OF THE MAN OF SIN (2 THESSALONIANS 2:1-12) ACCOMPLISHED. THE MATTER OF THE SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST/MAN OF SIN, IS THAT IT WOULD BE A BLASPHEMOUS POWER, NOT A SINGULAR INDIVIDUAL, FOR JOHN IN HIS EPISTLE DECLARED THE FOLLOWING. 1 John 2:18 “Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST SHALL COME, even now are there MANY ANTICHRISTS; whereby we know that it is the last time.” 1 John 2:19 “They went out FROM US, but they WERE NOT OF US; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US” THE APOSTLE PAUL MAKES REFERENCE TO THIS VERY THING IN ACTS OF THE APOSTLES. Acts 20:26 #1 “Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I AM PURE FROM THE BLOOD OF ALL MEN.” Acts 20:27 “For I have not shunned to declare unto you ALL THE COUNSEL OF GOD.” Acts 20:28 #2 “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to FEED THE CHURCH OF GOD, which he hath purchased with his own blood.” Acts 20:29 #3 “For I know this, that AFTER MY DEPARTING shall GRIEVIOUS WOLVES enter in AMONG YOU, NOT SPARING THE FLOCK.” Acts 20:30 “Also of your own selves shall MEN ARISE, speaking PERVERSE THINGS, to DRAW AWAY DISCIPLES AFTER THEM.” #1 THE APOSTLE PAUL BORROWS LANGUAGE SPOKE TO THE PROPHET EZEKIEL. Ezekiel 3:17 “Son of man, I have made thee A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel: therefore HEAR THE WORD AT MY MOUTH, and give them WARNING FROM ME.” Ezekiel 3:18 “When I SAY TO THE WICKED, Thou shalt surely die; and THOU GIVEST HIM NOT WARNING, NOR SPEAKEST TO WARN THE WICKED FROM HIS WICKED WAY, to SAVE HIS LIFE; the same wicked man SHALL DIE IN HIS INIQUITY; BUT HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND.” THESE SCRIPTURES FROM BOTH OLD AND NEW CONVEY THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ROLE OF APOSTLES AND PROPHETS, PASTORS AND TEACHERS, AND ESPECIALLY THE ELDERS (BISHOPS) OF THE LOCAL CHURCH TO NOT ONLY TEACH THE UNVARNISHED TRUTH OF SCRIPTURE, BUT ALSO TO PROTECT THEIR FLOCK FROM FOREIGN DOGMA AND THOSE ANTICHRISTS, WHO WOULD SEEK TO ENTER IN AND MAKE DISCIPLES AFTER THEIR FALSE TEACHING. #2 THE APOSTLE PAUL STRONGLY CHARGES THE ELDERS GATHERED AT THAT TIME TO BOTH WATCH OVER THEIR FLOCK AND FEED THEM. #3 THEN HE WARNS OF THE TIME TO COME, FOLLOWING HIS DEPARTURE, AND THIS WOULD INCLUDE ALL THE ORIGINAL APOSTLES, THAT OUR ADVERSARY (SATAN) WILL WAR AGAINST THE CHURCH BY INCORPORATION OF PERVERSE DOCTRINE, THUS DRAWING (DIVIDING) THE FLOCK, AND MAKING A NEW CHURCH, WHICH WOULD BE BASED UPON THE NEW DOCTRINE OF ANTICHRIST. THE WAR SATAN HAS WAGED FROM THE BEGINNING IS TWO FOLD, THAT WITH PERSECUTION AND DEATH, OR WITH LIES AND HYPOCRISY, HE WOULD SUBVERT THE BODY OF MESSIAH JESUS. OUR LORD SAID THIS HOWEVER, Matthew 16:18 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build MY CHURCH and the GATES OF HELL (HADES-THE GRAVE) shall not prevail against it.” SINCE THE ATTEMPT TO KILL OFF THE CHURCH, BOTH IN JERUSALEM (BY THE LEADERS OF SANHEDRIN) AND LATER THE ROMANS, WHO THOUGHT CHRISTIANITY WAS A POLITICAL THREAT TO THE EMPIRE FAILED (FOR EVERY CHRITIAN MARTYR KILLED 10 NEW CHRISTIANS WERE BORN), THE EFFORT THEN TURNED TO SOPHISTRY, LIES, AND INCORPORATION OF PAGAN IDEALS INTO THE ANTICHRIST CHURCH. (END OF PART ONE RESPONSE)

(PART TWO RESPONSE) THIS LEADS US TO PROPHECY, AND WHAT DANIEL AND THE REVELATION OF MESSIAH JESUS PRESENTS, Daniel 7:23 “Thus he said, The FOURTH BEAST shall be the FOURTH KINGDOM upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.” Daniel 7:24 “And the TEN HORNS OUT OF THIS KINGDOM are TEN KINGS THAT SHALL ARISE: and ANOTHER SHALL RISE AFTER THEM, and HE shall be diverse from the first, and HE SHALL SUBDUE THREE KINGS (HORNS).” Daniel 7:25 “And HE SHALL SPEAK GREAT WORDS AGAINST THE MOST HIGH (GOD), and shall WEAR OUT THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH (GOD), and THINK TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS, and THEY shall be given INTO HIS HAND until a TIME and TIMES and the DIVIDING OF TIME.” NOW LET'S EXAMINE THE HISTORY OF THESE DIVINE WORDS OF PROPHECY FROM DANIEL 2 AND CHAPTER 7, WE CLEARLY SEE THE HISTORY SET FORTH TO BOTH KING NEBUCHADNEZZAR AND DANIEL HIMSELF, THE RISE OF THE FOUR MAJOR KINGS OF ANCIENT TIMES. 1. BABYLON 2. MEDO-PERSIA 3. GREECE 4. ROME THE FOURTH KINGDOM (ROME) WAS IN PLACE BETWEEN 168 B.C TO 476 A.D AFTER ROME FELL, THERE WAS A CONFLICT IN THE TERRITORY OF WHAT IS NOW WESTERN EUROPE BETWEEN THE BISHOP OF ROME AND THE 3 POWERS PROPHETICALLY AND HISTORICALLY DESCRIBED IN DANIEL 7:24. THIS IS CALLED THE ARIAN CONTROVERSY. A SHORT HISTORY OF ARYANISM "ARIANISM, an influential heresy denying the divinity of Christ, originating with the Alexandrian priest ARIUS ( c. 250- c. 336). Arianism maintained that the Son of God was created by the Father and was therefore neither coeternal with the Father, nor consubstantial." In 325 A.D the COUNCIL OF NICEA was convened to settle the controversy. The council condemned Arius as a heretic and issued a creed to safeguard “orthodox” Christian belief. The creed states that the Son is homoousion tō Patri (“of one substance with the Father”), thus declaring him to be all that the Father is: he is completely divine. In fact, however, this was only the beginning of a long-protracted dispute. From 325 to 337, when the emperor Constantine died, those church leaders who had supported Arius and had been exiled after the Council of Nicaea attempted to return to their churches and sees (ecclesiastical seats) and to banish their enemies. They were partly successful. From 337 to 350 Constans, sympathetic to non-Arian Christians, was emperor in the West, and Constantius II, sympathetic to the Arians, was emperor in the East. At a church council held at Antioch (341), an affirmation of faith that omitted the homoousion clause was issued. THUS WE SEE THAT NEAR THE CLOSE OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE (IN THE WEST AND EAST - BYZANTIUM) ARIANISM WAS RECEIVED AND PROTECTED BY THE RULERS, IN CONTRAST TO THOSE RELIGIOUS FIGURES WHO CONVENED THE COUNCIL OF NICEA IN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE'S TIME (325 A.D). EMPEROR CONSTANTINE BY THE WAY MOVED HIS SEAT OF POWER EAST FOUNDING THE NAMED CITY, "CONSTANTINOPLE'', WHICH IS NOW MODERN DAY ISTANBUL TURKEY. THIS WILL BE MENTIONED AGAIN LATER. THE ARIAN CONTROVERSY CONTINUED ON ANOTHER 200 YEARS, AND BETWEEN THE TIME OF THE COUNCIL OF NICEA (325 A.D) AND THE CONFLICT ENDING (528A.D) A FEW THINGS HAPPENED. 1. COUNCIL OF NICEA (325 A.D) 2. Emperor Constantine, (330 A.D) moved the capital from Rome to the Greek city Byzantium in the east, and renamed the city Constantinople. 2. FALL OF WESTERN ROME TO THE BARBARIAN TRIBES (476 A.D) The most straightforward theory for Western Rome’s collapse pins the fall on a string of military losses sustained against outside forces. Rome had tangled with Germanic tribes for centuries, but by the 4 the century, “barbarian” groups like the Goths had encroached beyond the Empire’s borders. The Barbarian attacks on Rome partially stemmed from a mass migration caused by the Huns’ invasion of Europe in the late fourth century. When these Eurasian warriors rampaged through northern Europe, they drove many Germanic tribes to the borders of the Roman Empire. The Romans grudgingly allowed members of the Visigoth tribe to cross south of the Danube and into the safety of Roman territory, but they treated them with extreme cruelty. The Romans weathered a Germanic uprising in the late fourth century, but in (410 a.d) the Visigoth King Alaric successfully sacked the city of Rome. The Empire spent the next several decades under constant threat before “the Eternal City” was raided again in (455 a.d), this time by the Vandals. Finally, in 476 a.d, the Germanic leader Odoacer staged a revolt and deposed the Emperor Romulus Augustulus. From then on, no Roman emperor would ever again rule from a post in Italy, leading many to cite (476 a.d) as the year the Western Empire suffered its deathblow. 3. THE THREE HORNS REVEALED AS ARYAN KINGS (KINGDOMS) OPPOSED TO THE BISHOP AND ROMAN CHURCH. THEY ARE AS FOLLOWS a. THE HERULI b. THE VANDALS c. THE OSTROGOTHS The position is here confidently taken that the three powers, or horns, plucked up by the roots were the HERULI, the VANDALS, and the OSTROGOTHS; and this position rests upon reliable historical data. Odoacer, the leader of the Heruli, was the first of the barbarians who reigned over the Romans. He took the throne of Italy, A.D. 476. Of his religious belief Gibbon says: "Like the rest of the barbarians he had been instructed in the Arian heresy; but he revered the monastic and episcopal characters; and the silence of the Catholics attests the toleration which they enjoyed." Arianism was adopted as the national faith of the warlike converts who were seated on the ruins of the Western Empire. This irreconcilable difference of religion was a perpetual source of jealousy and hatred; and the reproach of barbarian was embittered by the more odious epithet of heretic. The heroes of the north, who had submitted with some reluctance to believe that all their ancestors were in hell, were astonished and exasperated to learn that they themselves had only changed the mode of their eternal condemnation." The Arian doctrine had a marked influence on the church at that time, as will be observed in the following paragraphs: "The whole of the vast Gothic population which descended on the Roman Empire, so far as it was Christian at all, held to the faith of the Alexandrian heretic. Our first Teutonic version of the Scriptures was by an Arian missionary, Ulfilas. The first conqueror of Rome, Alaric, the first conqueror of Africa, Genseric, were Arians. Theodoric the Great, king of Italy, and hero of the 'Nibelungenlied,' was an Arian. The vacant place in his massive tomb at Ravenna is a witness of the vengeance which the Orthodox took on his memory, when on their triumph they tore down the porphyry vase in which his Arian subjects had enshrined his ashes." THERE IS WAY MUCH MORE HISTORY CONCERNING THE ARYANS WHO ESTABLISHED POSITIONS OF POWER, NOT ONLY IN ROME ITSELF, BUT ELSEWHERE IN THE DIVIDED TERRITORY OF FORMER ROME, NOW EUROPE. OVER 200 YEARS BEYOND THE COUNCIL OF NICEA (325A.D), AND 100 YEARS AFTER THE FALL OF WESTERN ROME (476 A.D) WAR AND BLOODSHED BETWEEN ARIAN RULERS AND CATHOLICS (WHO DESPISED THE HERETICS), OCCURRED BETWEEN NORTH AFRICA AND IN EUROPE, EVEN TO THE BRITISH ISLES. THE REASON FOR THIS UPROOTING OF 3 OF THE 10 HORNS, HAD TO DO WITH CONFLICT HISTORY BETWEEN THE RISE OF POPERY IN ROME, THE FALL OF PAGAN ROME, AND THE VACUUM OF POWER THAT ALL, INCLUDING THE BISHOP OF ROME DESIRED TO FILL. FOR DECADES THE ARIAN POWERS EVEN INVOLVED THEMSELVES IN THE ELECTION/SUCCESSION OF POPES, BECAUSE THEY CAME INTO POWER IN THE WEST. THESE VERY THINGS HELP US TO UNDERSTAND, WHAT THEN, WAS THE REASONS FOR CONFLICT. ONE FINAL HISTORICAL FOCUS POINT AS TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE "LITTLE HORN" IN THE AFFAIRS OF THE WESTERN EUROPEAN TERRITORY. While the Catholics were thus feeling the restraining power of an Arian king in Italy, they were suffering a violent persecution from the Arian Vandals in Africa. Historian Elliot says: " The Vandal kings were not only Arians, but persecutors of the Catholics; in Sardinia and Corsica under the Roman Episcopate, we may presume, as well as in Africa." Such was the position of affairs, when, (533 A.D), Justinian entered upon his Vandal and Gothic wars. Wishing to obtain the influence of the pope and the Catholic party, he issued that memorable decree which was to THE POPE OF ALL THE CHURCHES, and from the carrying out of which (538 A.D), the period of PAPAL SUPREMACY is to be dated. And whoever will read the history of the African campaign, 533-534, and the Italian campaign, 534-538, will notice that the Catholics everywhere hailed as deliverers the army of Belisarius, the general of Justinian. But no decree of this nature could be carried into effect until the ARIAN HORNS which stood in its way were overthrown (UPROOTED). A turn came, however, in the tide of affairs, for in the military campaign in Africa and Italy the victorious legions of Belisarius dealt a crushing blow to Arianism, so much so that its final supporters were vanquished. NOW, AT THIS POINT ONE MAY ASK, "WHY DO I SHARE ALL THIS HISTORY?" THE ANSWER IS THAT WE (TOGETHER) MIGHT SEE AND UNDERSTAND THE PROPHETIC TIMES, WHICH ALMIGHTY GOD HAS PURPOSED AND REVEALED BY HIS PROPHETS. WE LIVE IN THE 21ST CENTURY, FAR REMOVED FROM THE CONFLICTS THE EARLY CHURCHES OF JUDEA, ASIA MINOR, AND THE ROMAN EMPIRE ERA, THEREFORE WE NEED TO SEE HOW THE CHURCH THEN WAS AFFECTED, AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD, WE MAY BOTH SEE AND KNOW.

(PART THREE AND FINAL RESPONSE) Isaiah 46:9 “Remember the former things of old: for I AM GOD, and there is none else; I AM GOD, and there is none like ME,” Isaiah 46:10 “Declaring THE END FROM THE BEGINNING and from ANCIENT TIMES the THINGS that are NOT YET DONE, saying, MY COUNSEL SHALL STAND, and I WILL DO ALL MY PLEASURE:” DANIEL WAS SHOWN THE SAME IN THE INTERPRETATION OF DANIEL 2 Daniel 2:20 “Daniel answered and said, Blessed be THE NAME OF GOD for ever and ever: for WISDOM AND MIGHT ARE HIS:” Daniel 2:21 “And HE CHANGETH THE TIMES AND SEASONS: HE REM0VETH KINGS, AND SETTETH UP KINGS: HE GIVETH WISDOM UNTO THE WISE, and KNOWLEDGE TO THEM THAT KNOW UNDERSTANDING:” IT IS THE LORD WHO DECREES BOTH THE RISE AND FALL OF NATIONS, OF EMPIRES, AND HE SPEAKS BY HIS PROPHETS (WHO ARE WISE AND HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SCRIPTURES). Amos 3:7 “Surely the LORD GOD will do nothing, but HE REVEALETH HIS SECRET unto HIS SERVANTS THE PROPHETS.” NOW WE SEE THAT THE POWER WHO OPPOSED THE THREE ARIAN HORNS, AND AFTER THEY WERE VANQUISHED (UPROOTED) TO TO THEMSELF THE POWER (BOTH CIVIL AND RELIGIOUS) OVER THE DIVIDED ROMAN EMPIRE OF EUROPE. THAT TIME IS WHAT WE KNOW AS MONARCHIAL EUROPE, WHERE KINGS CONSOLIDATED TERRITORY, YET THE PAPACY OF ROME HAD A HAND IN ALL THEY WOULD DO, AND THE KINGS OF EUROPE SUBMITTED TO THE PAPACY. THIS IS WHAT I LEARNED IN WESTERN HISTORY IN COLLEGE, CONCERNING THE "DEVELOPMENT OF THE PAPACY OF ROME". LET US FIRST SEE THE MINDSET OF THOSE IN ROME THEN IN THE FIRST CENTURIES THAT FOLLOWED THE APOSTLES DEPARTURE... The first pastors, or bishops, OF ROME enjoyed a respect proportionate to the rank of the city in which they resided. For the FIRST FEW CENTURIES OF THE CHRISTIAN ERA, Rome was the largest, richest, and most powerful city in the world. It was the SEAT OF EMPIRE, the CAPITAL OF NATIONS. "All the inhabitants of the earth belong to here," said Julian; and Claudian declared her to be the "fountain of laws." "If Rome is the queen of cities, why should not HER PASTOR BE THE KING OF BISHOPS?" was the reasoning these Roman pastors put forth. "Why should not the Roman Church be the mother of Christendom? Why should not ALL NATIONS be her children, and HER AUTHORITY THEIR SOVEREIGN LAW? It was easy," says D'Aubigne, from whom we quote these words, "for the ambitious heart of man to reason thus. Ambitious Rome did so." LET US CONTRACT THEIR THOUGHTS, WITH OUR LORD'S WORDS AND ANSWER TO PONTIUS PILATE (ROMAN GOVERNOR OF JUDEA) UPON THE DAY OF HIS SUFFERING AND DEATH, John 18:33 “Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Jesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews?” John 18:34 “Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me?” John 18:35 “Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?” John 18:36 “Jesus answered, MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is MY KINGDOM IS NOT FROM HENCE.” NEITHER THEN, OR NOW, CAN ANY NATION, ANY KING, RULER, OR POPE, CAN DECLARE THIS EARTH THE KINGDOM OF MESSIAH JESUS OUR LORD. WITH THIS IN MIND, LET'S DELVE FURTHER INTO HISTORY OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PAPAL POWER OF ROME. KEY POINTS 1. During the early history of Christianity, Rome became an increasingly important center of the faith, which gave the bishop of Rome (the pope) more power over the entire church, thereby ushering in the era of papal supremacy. THIS WAS ACCOMPLISHED BY THE DECREE 2. When Catholicism became the official religion of the Roman Empire in 380, the power of the pope increased, although he was still subordinate to the emperor. After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, the pope served as a source of authority and continuity; however, for several centuries afterward the Eastern Roman Emperor still maintained authority over the church. 3. From the late-6th to the late-8th century there was a turning of the papacy to the West and an escape from subordination to the authority of the Byzantine emperors of Constantinople. 4. When Pope Leo III crowned Charlemagne as Roman Emperor in 800 A.D, he established the precedent that, in Western Europe, no man would be emperor without being crowned by a pope. 5. After a conflict known as the Investiture Controversy, as well as from the launching of the Crusades, the papacy increased its power in relation to the secular rulers of Europe. 6. Throughout the Middle Ages, popes struggled with monarchs over power. WE ALL KNOW OF THE HISTORY OF ENGLAND AND KING HENRY VIII, AND HIS DEPARTURE FROM, AND RECOGNITION OF THE ROMAN PAPACY IN THE AFFAIRS OF ENGLAND. THEREFORE WE SEE THE MEANS BY WHICH THE PAPACY HAD POWER OVER THE KINGS OF EARTH, WHICH THE PROPHETIC WORD DESCRIBES AS, "FORNICATION". Daniel 7:25 “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” THE BLASPHEMOUS POWER OF ROME'S PAPACY IS CLEARLY REPRESENTED IN FULFILLMENT OF THE PROPHECY, AS WELL AS IN REVELATION 13:1-10, WHERE THE LEOPARD LIKE BEAST HAVING 7 HEADS, TEN HORNS, AND THE NAME OF BLASPHEMY UPON ITS HEADS. THIS POWER ALSO OPENS ITS MOUTH IN BLASPHEMY TOWARDS GOD, TO BLASPHEME HIS NAME, AND HIS TABERNACLE, AND THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN. CERTAINLY WE KNOW (AS CHRISTIANS) THAT THE TERM BLASPHEMY HAS TO DO WITH A MAN, TRYING TO MAKE HIMSELF OUT TO BE GOD, RIGHT? THEREFORE WE CAN LOOK AGAIN UPON THE USE OF, "SPEAKING GREAT WORDS AGAINST THE MOST HIGH GOD'' AND THE BEAST OF REVELATION 13, "OPENING HIS MOUTH IN BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD" TO BE THE SELF SAME APPLICATION AND POWER WARNED ABOUT. IN THAT EARLY ON (IN ROME) THE EARLY CHRISTIANS THEN WERE ALREADY ENTERTAINING PROVOCATIVE STATEMENTS AS TO THE BISHOP OF ROME HAVING POWER OVER ALL CHURCHES, AND EVEN ALL NATIONS, IT IS CLEAR THAT THE SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST HAD FULLY DEVELOPED. ROME IN THE APOSTLE PAUL'S LETTER WERE COMMENDABLE, AND SOUND IN DOCTRINE, AS ALSO OTHER CHURCHES, WHOM PAUL ADDRESSED IN HIS EPISTLES WERE SUCH FOR THE MOST PART. IN CORINTH HOWEVER, A MAN WHO OPENLY LIVED IN THE SIN OF FORNICATION, WAS IN A STATE OF NON-REPENTANCE, AND THE CHURCH ITSELF DID NOTHING TO ARREST THE VIOLATION AMONG THEM. (SEE 1 CORINTHIANS 5 AND 2 CORINTHIANS 13). WHEN SIN (TRANSGRESSION OF GOD'S LAW I JOHN 3:4) IS LEFT UNCHECKED, IT CAUSES A FALLING AWAY (APOSTASY) FROM CHRIST AND THE TRUTH. THE PROBLEM WITH THE CHURCH IN ROME, WAS THAT ALTHOUGH IT WAS ONCE COMMENDED, IT LATER BROUGHT INTO PRACTICE FALSE DOCTRINES AND EVEN PAGAN PRACTICES, THUS MAKING ITSELF AN ALTOGETHER SEPARATE ENTITY, APART FROM THE TRUE CHURCH. BECAUSE PAGAN ROME WAS FIRST ENGAGED IN PERSECUTION, AND LATER SEEMED TO ENDORSE THE CHRISTIAN FAITH, IT BECAME THE CATALYST OF THE CHURCH OF ROME TO FALL AWAY AND EVOLVE INTO THE PAPACY. MANY HISTORIANS BELIEVE THE STATE (CHARACTER) OF THE CHURCH WAS PURER, MORE NOBLE, WHEN PERSECUTED, THAT WHAT IT BECAME LATER. IN CONCLUSION kac, AND TO GET BACK TO THE POINT YOU, YOURSELF MADE, ""it takes a lot of gall and outright rebellion to change what God called holy, the seventh day, to the first day of the week without having distinct direction from God." I DO HOPE YOU NOW SEE HOW IN FACT THAT WHICH THE LORD GOD PROCLAIMED TO BE, 1. "HIS HOLY DAY" (SEE ISAIAH 58:13, 14) 2. THAT WHICH THE LORD GOD HIMSELF DECLARED TO BE, "THE SABBATH OF THE LORD THY GOD" (SEE EXODUS 20:10) 3. THAT WAS BLESSED AND HALLOWED AFTER THE LORD CREATED ALL THINGS IN SIX DAYS (SEE GENESIS 2:1-3) 4. OF WHICH JESUS SAID, "THE SABBATH WAS MADE FOR MAN" (NO MENTION OF THE JEW) 5. AND THAT HE, "THE SON OF MAN IS LORD ALSO OF THE SABBATH DAY" (SEE MARK 2:27, 28) AS FOR YOUR SAYING, SUNDAY IS THE IS THE LORD'S DAY (ACCORDING TO YOUR APPLICATION OF REVELATION 1:10), I SINCERELY HOPE AND PRAY YOU HAVE THE COURAGE AND WILL HAVE DEVELOPED HOLY DISCERNMENT, THAT YOU MIGHT BE CORRECTED IN THIS MATTER BY THE WORD OF GOD, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT BEFORE RESPONDING AGAIN. TRULY, JOHN WAS IN THE SPIRIT UPON THE SEVENTH DAY SABBATH, THE TRUE LORD'S DAY OF SCRIPTURE. (THE END)

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Paul instructed in the New Testament that the Christians he was soon to visit lay aside money each "Sun"-day, or First Day (of the working week) so that they were committed to setting aside a financial portion at the beginning of a new week so as not to forget their commitment by the distractions and expenses that would occur during the rest of the other five weekdays (excluding the Sabbath of course, when no one worked). It was not a collection in a "church" but personal individual "setting aside" in their homes in order to meet a need elsewhere which Paul was to come and collect (on this occasion only) to take with him to distribute to those needy believers. It was not strictly a "tithe" but more of a gift saved up in instalments, and not a weekly collection plate in a local church as many modern churches do teach, I believe, quite in error. This verse is often quoted to promote such a doctrine, even publishing it on money envelopes as I saw in a denominational church close to where I live, and even changing the Biblical word "First Day" ("YOM RISHON") into "Sun"-day, but the Bible nowhere names it in honour of the sun. Gentile Christians don't even name it after the "Son," which shows the Church's lack of influence over worldly pagan-originated traditions and false deity veneration and evocation on those "days." The Jews of course refuse staunchly to accept this renaming of God's created days. I hope this is helpful or informative and not offensive, as some do cling to "familiar" names etc. Yeshua is also Lord of the Sabbath, not of "Sun"-day, and He observed it throughout His life.

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I keep Sabbath, not to earn salvation, but because my Messiah died for me, to pay the price for my sins. Now I strive to be like him and live for him. Yeshua kept the Sabbath and no where in the Bible were we ever told to keep Sunday.

That’s right. Jesus is our rest. Colossians 2:13-17 we were dead in our sins but God made us alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having concealed the written code, took it away nailing it to the cross. Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things to come; the reality however, is found in Christ. The commandment to observe the Sabbath is the only one of the ten not repeated after Pentecost.

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