Voilamart 1500W Hub Drive E Bike Kit

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In this video I remove the alternator motor and controller and install a new hub drive motor kit from Voilamart.
Please check the links below if you are interested in a similar kit. These are affiliate links and if you make a purchase I will receive a few cents commission.
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I was having a problem with the alternator motor as I think it had twisted and the chain was coming off. Due to the issues I've mentioned before I didn't think it was worth going any further with this bike. I may re-purpose the motor for another bike if I can figure out a gear reduction but that is a project for the future.
I decided I wanted to try a hub motor as I have never had one before, I wanted something reasonably powerful but also cheap and this one seemed a good compromise.
Just to confirm I am not sponsored by anyone and I bought this kit with my own money. My experience so far with Voilamart has been positive with them shipping the kit quickly and helping me after I made a mistake during ordering.
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@Convolutedtubules 3 года назад

Just as I thought I have watched about every ebike video out there, I watch this and am pleasantly surprised. Thanks mate for the honest and no bullshit content.

@alibro7512 3 года назад

Thanks mate.

@Convolutedtubules 3 года назад

@@alibro7512What's the torque and overall ability to resist gravity after you switched to 14s? I just glued up a 14s8p and just waiting for the rest of the parts for my first build.

@alibro7512 3 года назад

@@Convolutedtubules @DailyToker The torque is enough to put a smile on your face but not so much as to be dangerous. It can pull wheelie if you're careless and will do 40mph. I believe with a better battery pack it would be more powerful but this one was built using rubbish cells so is a little compromised. Having said that it is perfect for my needs.

@Convolutedtubules 3 года назад

@@alibro7512Thanks for your reply. Im building a 14s8p Samsung 25r total 160 amp battery pack. Hoping to run 2 hubs off that in the future when one hub motor no longer suffices.

@FlyingFun. 4 года назад

I'm building similar cheap 1000w and noticed no levels of assist so presumed cadence sensor would just full speed, I will probably just leave it off and use throttle but still pedal to help up hills and save battery. I have a fiido d3s which has geared motor and little wheels, pretty good for what it is and handle hills pretty well but wanted a cheap kit to try out on my mountain bike. Ideally I would like a bafang ultra but that means new bike and lots of dosh lol.

@mangodwins6328 3 года назад

Front brake don't hook up your back so you can use it to do wheelies

@SamMontgomery-d2c 2 месяца назад

on 1000w kit the cable comes out of the end of the hub but on 1500 w kit it comes out next to the wheel on the inside side of the bike frame. it also will not fit on the same size bike frame as a 1000w kit i have found...

@topofthecrops7383 4 года назад

They do 2 1500w kits... throttle only like this and the one with the display (sw900).. the controllers are different internally though.. the display communicates with controller and power level is adjustable if you get the one with display.. your twist throttle/key thing will have a 6 pin connector.. kits with display have 5 pin plug and a 3 pin plug for the throttle that doesn't have the key or power gauge (bike is now turned on and power level set using lcd's buttons)

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Thanks for the info, very useful.

@topofthecrops7383 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 only discovered this because they sent me wrong one for a start.. They sent me replacement but I'm still actually using the throttle only version (they told me my 52v battery would blow it up which it hasn't! So until it does it works ok) Seems to peak at about 33 amps and 1800watt.. I have a solar panel energy meter thing on mine..

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@topofthecrops7383 I'm not sure if they still sell ebike kits. I didn't like the power meter, lack of key switch and poor PAS so replaced everything except the wheel.

@georgemastoras5315 4 года назад

Thanks for your review. Thinking of getting same kit so was wondering if you could give your opinion on if you saw any issues with putting a disc brake on the rear wheel, i understand i would have to modify the brake levers but just in general do you think that it would be a straight forward thing to do just bolting on a disk and having it fit, thanks in advance.

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Sorry mate, I'm no bike mechanic so I don't know. If you go to some of the ebike forums they'll be able to advise you better.

@georgemastoras5315 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 Thank you for your reply so quickly, have a great week, cheers.

@theejoeylee 3 года назад

This thing looks like a rolling garage fire

@ooaqici82qb4ip 2 года назад

ive got bits missing off mine. the forks tighten up against the chain

@alibro7512 2 года назад

These kits don't fit every bike.

@l3MTA3l 3 года назад

Nice kit but I don't like the way you mounted the battery

@alibro7512 3 года назад

It was only temporary. If you watch my other videos you'll see I took the kit off this bike and made a proper battery box for the next bike.

@mond000 4 года назад

Excellent review, and thank you for posting this.

@dogit1840 4 года назад

Oh he doesn't have the electronic display hooked up the CDL on the handlebars that has control parameters for the pedals assess some of them have 1 to 5 some of them have 1to 9

@alibro7512 4 года назад

I ordered the cheapest version of this kit and it didn't come with a display. My own fault for being a cheapskate but I suspected the controller would be crap so expected to be buying a better controller. Turns out it ain't too bad. 😉

@MKGPerformance 4 года назад

top speed?

@alibro7512 4 года назад

35mph with a good battery

@jayvlog9841 3 года назад

Super 😎

@maxpower001 4 года назад

I have the same kit.. weird Israeli ebike division special forces dude on the cover, I got a kick out of that... Good kit though isn't it... I love mine

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Yeah I'm having a blast with mine. It isn't perfect by a long way but still great fun.

@blackbirdxx928 3 года назад

Ok....do you want to hear the truth about this product? Yep, i bought this exact same kit along with a 52 volt 20 ar battery along with a schwinn hybrid that i bought from wally world. First ebike i ever touched, i have had it a couple 3 weeks and 200+miles. I did not use the supplied brake levers, i ride street bike, i know how to shut the throttle when using the brak and i didnt use the pedal assist control because i have a blown out knee and didnt intend to do any peddling. The hub was a little wide for the frame so i used an automotive scissors jack to spread the frame out a half inch. The tire that came with the kit wore out in 150 miles, i ride mostly street so i bought a set of slicks...good for a little more top speed. It ran ok when i first put it together and it ran a little better the first half dozen times i recharged it. I did notice something odd, the speed increased the first 2/3 of the twist throttle but didnt increase speed after that. I thought it was a little odd that the 3 wires for the motor from the speed controller were quite a but thicker than the wires that cam from the hub so i rand a voltage drop test on each of the motor wires, Digital volt meter, poke a hole in the wire where it comes out of the hub and the other probe stuck in the wire where it comes out of the controller and ride it full throttle, The meter reads the amount of voltage lost...aka resistance. Over a volt each wire...3 volts lost...my 52 volt battery and only 49 was getting to the motor, It looked like they used the thickest wire they could use and still fit through the slot in the axle into the motor. So i went down to local hobby shop and bought the wire used on rc electric cars. 14 gauge was what came out of the controller. The wire is different than most wire, it has about 100 very fine strands and the insulation is silicon, it will take a lot more heat, its much more flexible and has very little resistance. It is to thick through the axle so i cut the motor wires off one the outside leaving the stock wires to the motor, The longer a wire is the thicker it needs to be to pass the same amount of current and the thin wires that were left shouldn't be a problem. I cut the ring terminals off the speed controller and soldered on 30 amp bullet connectors that got with the wire.It ran noticeably better, It accelerated better and the dead spot after 2/3 throttle was gone...it runs a 37-38 mph gps. The motor is so quiet i cant even hear it...so ya..its a decent deal...couple things i noticed that i didnt realize at the time that wish i had known, the speed controller does not have a usb output to charge a cell phone or charge usb headlight/tail light or any other low voltage output so i bought lights that run off 48 volts. It ran 33 right out of the box and a couple mods..slicks and motor wire was worth 4 more mph .

@alibro7512 3 года назад

Great update and thanks for the tips. I too thought the wires to the hub are very thin so maybe I will do the same.

@mangodwins6328 3 года назад

I don't even know if you put or torque arm on that it's 34 miles per hour it needs a torque arm

@sicks6six 4 года назад

Can you get a front wheel that matches the rear wheel, IE do Voilamart supply them,

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Unless you have amazingly strong front forks I wouldn't recommend having any more than 250W on the front wheel, maybe 500W but certainly not 1500W. You can have a 2 wheel drive ebike by using 2 motors, 2 controllers and 1 throttle by linking the throttle to both controllers. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SHXQr2MPJS8.html

@knickemup5117 4 года назад

Why does it like like it's held together with bubble gum?

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Bubble gum is too good for me. 😋 This was just a test mule for the newer bikes. Watch my other videos to see how they progressed.

@tonyeddyedwards 4 года назад

Hi where did u get this kit from pleas

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Ebay but I'm not sure it's still available. If not try Aliexpress

@peterdewey3395 5 лет назад

Hi I have a 1000w voilamart kit, I want to change the throttle for a thumb shift with the voltage display, do you know what the 6 voilamart throttle wire colours are so I can connect them to the new 5 wire throttle, thanks.

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

If you watch the next video in the series I show the connections.

@peterdewey3395 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 thanks very helpful, one more question do you think it's worth using a 1500w controller with the 1000w motor? Any benefits to doing this? Thanks again.

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

@@peterdewey3395 From what I've heard the 1500W motor can handle 2000 to 3000 watts so if that is true then your 1000W motor should easily handle 1500W. If you check online there are ways to cool the motor so that it can handle more power if it starts to get hot. Cheap 1500W controllers are only £30 or so and good ones like the KT controllers with a display are only around £100.

@peterdewey3395 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 thanks again, great videos very informative.

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

@@peterdewey3395 Thanks mate

@soentrueman7944 4 года назад

I ordered the 1000w kit from voilamart, but it's strange, the motor showed up without a thread! Just contacted them to see if there's a secret I'm missing but it looks like a return if I want to use chain drive :/

@alibro7512 4 года назад

That's odd, must have been a Friday afternoon job. 😁 I think their customer service is meant to be pretty good so I'm sure they'll sort it for you.

@soentrueman7944 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 turns out I'm a complete idiot and ordered a front wheel 😆😆 now I'm weighing up the pros and cons of going from wheel drive vs read wheel drive. Front wheel drive has a lot of benefits but the decreased traction scares me a bit!

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@soentrueman7944 I have never driven a front wheel drive ebike so I can't really comment except to say the rear wheel on my Violamart kit is really heavy and I don't think I would want it on the front. Maybe you can return it and order a rear wheel kit instead. Like I said earlier they have pretty good customer service.

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Another thing to consider is your front forks are unlikely to appreciate pulling you along with 1000W of force. I wouldn't put anything more than 250W on the front forks.

@soentrueman7944 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 Yeah, absolutely. I realised that the axle for the front wheel was about 1mm too big and I would have to file the hangouts down. Which I didn't fancy doing so decided just to return the wheel and buy the proper wheel I was going for. I damaged my current 1000w wheel so need a spare to replace it with so I can take it to my LBS for truing. But as it's my main form of transport I can't do without my bike for any length of time.

@davidamazing1853 5 лет назад

I was really considering getting this kit can you tell me how you like it and a top speed on it please?

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

To be honest I haven't used it much in standard form but top speed is around 25 to 30mph depending on your battery. I would only recommend it if you are happy to tinker with it or and replace the bits that are poor or you're happy to use throttle only. The motor seems OK but the controller is very low quality with cadence control (it goes when you pedal) which is terrible. It's the cheapest kit available for a reason.

@chickenbradly 5 лет назад

Yo man, I bought the same one he did on Amazon. On flat, 35mph is the standard for me but if you're on a long enough stretch you can get 40 out of it, although I wouldn't suggest pushing it past 35. I suggest getting a 52v battery to make these numbers possible, a 48v is not going to cut it imo. Like op said, it is great if you are looking for just throttle (to be honest, I just pedal assist it up the hill and keep the throttle steady at a low level, close to same thing). For my needs, it's amazing and worth every penny I put into it. PM me if you're looking for other specifics

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

@@chickenbradly Since I made this video I took the controller apart and resoldered all of the high current tracks as in places they had no solder at all. This could have caused hot spots and maybe even burnt out the tracks because of what I did next. I bridged the two shunts with solder to reduce their resistance and finally put plenty of heatsink compound in all the places it should be. The difference is amazing and this controller is now faster than my other one.

@chickenbradly 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 hell yea dude, 35 mph is king. Imo it's the sweet spot before the bike starts becoming dangerous

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

@@chickenbradly lol, my bike is so old and crappy it gets dangerous long before 35 but at least it now gets there.

@clownkiller1235 4 года назад

Hi mate what’s the battery voltages what’s top speed thanks

@alibro7512 4 года назад

48V and approx 30mph

@clownkiller1235 4 года назад

Ali Bro thanks for reply does it come with gear ⚙️ hub ? Or do u use your own or do I need to purchase one

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@clownkiller1235 It came with one but probably a very cheap one

@clownkiller1235 4 года назад

Ali Bro I heard you can get up to 40 is there no chance then ? I thought it was faster

@clownkiller1235 4 года назад

Ali Bro that’s fine glad it ca,e with one ..... surely the bike goes faster every video on RU-vid bragging that it goes up to 40 mph please confirm

@timbrass 5 лет назад

When I fit the same kit and tighten the nuts the wheel stops freely spinning. It only stops spinning when the cassette side nut is tightened. I can tighten the brake side and it freely spins. Anyone seen the same issue?

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

There is probably another nut that holds the bearings and it sounds like this one is tightening when you tighten the other nut. If that's correct it should have a lock nut to stop it turning but must be loose. Try to ensure the axel doesn't turn as you tighten the nuts.

@timbrass 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 Thanks for the reply. If I tighten the two nuts together it is a bit better. If I manually spin the wheel, it will freewheel one full rotation (my 250w would do 2.5 rotations. I don't see any other nuts to tighten/loosen (unless they are hidden under the cassette - which I'm not sure I want to try and remove. I have put torque arms on both sides.

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

@@timbrass I just checked mine by lifting the rear wheel and spinning it. I had no difficulty making it spin three full rotations. Did you fit the washers to make sure the cassette doesn't rub against the bike frame? I haven't got around to making torque arms yet but I can't see why they would make a difference.

@timbrass 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 Yes, I put 2 washers between the hub and the inside of the frame to ensure that the cassette does not rub the frame. I am using a 22in Carrera Vengeance frame.

@timbrass 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 The torque arms make no difference to the free rotation. I put them on because it is an aluminium frame.

@balloney2175 2 года назад

more talk no action

@codyviera92 4 года назад

Fyi the tubes are trash mine blew up barley any air in it lol

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Did you put tape around the rim. Mine came without so lots of sharp edges.

@revparsons3tl 5 лет назад

Nice it I've got the the 1000w kit was going to buy the 1500w i don't think it's worth the upgrade

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

They can be upgraded by changing the controller and I'm told motors can be filled with oil to help with cooling but make sure to use the right oil or it will short the coils. Have you tried using the cadence?

@fatlindbytyqi1684 5 лет назад

Nick Walters you can run 1500w through a 1000w kit. Its solely based off of your battery. Watts is volts*amps. Only problem is when pulling 1500w from a 1000w motor the motor tends to overheat. Easily combatted by putting oil in hub as ali bro said or drilling holes on the plates.

@revparsons3tl 5 лет назад

@@fatlindbytyqi1684 what kind of oil or is it just easyer to drill holes

@Pupenhausen 5 лет назад

@@revparsons3tl It's not normal oil, it's called ferrofluid, and because it's magnetic you have to add the right amount or it will cause drag on the magnets.

@ish562 5 лет назад

Its definitely worth it. I have a 1000w front hub motor and the 1500w hub motor from voilamart. The 1500w is actually a bigger more powerful motor, it accelerates faster and hits higher top speed using the same controller.

@likiyeah 5 лет назад

Hi, nice job congratulations, but after 30 minutes of video, cabbage I was expecting a short test drive. Continue with the videos of the Ebike diy, I also saw that of the alternator of the car, it's nothing short of brilliant. Maybe you do some vlog with Voilamart, so we see reliability. Thank you very much. Hello

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

Hi and thank you for the kind words. Please check out my other videos as I did put up a video of the test rides. You can follow my progress with the Voilamart kit here staf.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=68

@kj9329 3 года назад

Am running 72 volt battery with a 3000 watt hub motor & 3000 watt controller

@ghegun 4 года назад

Great review. I have been riding my basic 1000W Voilamart kit for 3 years with no issues whatsoever.

@bgate1984 4 года назад

ghegun what mileage are you at? I’ve got 4300 on my kit, 2 years old, interested in what mileage these are capable of, Cheers

@realestatestudent213 4 года назад

@@bgate1984 could this kit work without putting on the pedal assist?

@bgate1984 4 года назад

Real Estate Student yes matey works fine with no pedal assist, although it’s worth considering, as if ur throttle packs in u could continue ur journey with pedal assist, just set pedal assist to 0 on lcd screen , and that will make it throttle only AND pedal assist 2/3 give reasonable speed but will double range of throttle only ....

@Sholak 4 года назад

How do you connect the speed controller to the battery?

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@williamcarroll5402 4 года назад

Its a good kit for speed. I built a 36v 700w i think same company. So i would recommend this kit and any other for the price and to speed monsters. I also had a 8fun but could not get the bike built. Being 272lbs. The kit could not take my weight. This is one cheap kit but good onpower. Injoy👍

@VirantRoss 3 года назад

*I wonder if they last though?? I heard from a couple people that the quality is poor and they are made to only last a few months (just long enough so you can't return it)*

@alibro7512 3 года назад

I have been using it once or twice a week for a year and a half now with no issues. Having said that I have replaced almost everything apart from the motor due to the poor quality of the ancillaries. They didn't fail but were kinda rubbish.

@stockey Год назад

1500 and the 1000 watt have the same motor, they just change the controller.

@sonofsouth2800 5 лет назад

Thanks for the review, great help.

@bobikbobikowy5458 Год назад

I bought that motor for 70$ on sale. Going to buy throttle and 500w controller. Do you think 500w will be enough on uphills if i will pedal assist?

@alibro7512 Год назад

It will be enough so long as you pedal but you'll always regret not getting a better one.

@blegend6538 2 года назад

Hey i just bought a 1500w 48v ebike kit and i bought a 48v 26ah bms 40a battery and when i connected them i got a spark between the cable i checked it is normal? that black goes on black and red on red im confused can anyone help me please ?????

@alibro7512 2 года назад

Yes it's completely normal. In the controller are large capacitors that act like a short circuit until they charge up so you get a spark and a crack noise. It's not pleasant and probably not good for it. To prevent this get anti spark connectors.

@mangodwins6328 3 года назад

Don't connect and it goes 34 mph connect it 24mph down to 750 watts

@williamcarroll5402 3 года назад

Dude with a bigger battery is that things dangerous I have that kit without a battery I'm using a 48 volts kit with a 52 volt battery that thing can move so you have a 52 volt kit with a tiny battery get a bigger battery it'll take off

@alibro7512 3 года назад

Thanks for your comment. If you check out my more recent videos I built a bigger battery for it. 😉

@plodderexup 5 лет назад

Which vendor did you use? The main one on eBay at the moment is "Fancy-speed". I've never used aliexpress or banggood, so tend to stick with what I know.

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

It was Voilamartuk but I suspect the same company have several ebay accounts. Strange thing is normal ebay searches sorted by price didn't show the model I got but it was available. Also their shop didn't show it so I think they must be a bit shady. Having said that it arrived in a couple of days and no issues.

@pxxbxx9840 4 года назад

Got my 1000w going with a 17.5mah 48v (tested at 54v) from caprouge.com.au/ (still testing it) , a $30 2nd hand aluminum Diamondback ($3-400) new. I'm 115kg/250lb and 6'2". I managed 50kmh/30mph no problems, 12 times, and got 40km/25miles with 20 of those carrying 15kgs on my back. It was beginning to slow a bit by then but managed another 5 km at 35k/h for the hell of it... I drove it like I owned it but running it softly ; maybe i could have got 50-60km out of it... forget 250w, its pointless... For the money I have no problems.... I suspect, from reading comments, that maybe the 1000w and higher models are all the same wheel just with different controllers. torque arm- I welded the supplied axle washers to a 3mm steel plate, cut it to shape and bolted them through the tapped holes used to attach rear rack arms. Drill and tap them if none on yours. better than the crappy torque arms on ebay.

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Sounds like fun. I haven't bothered with torque arms and so far had no issues. I'm not that heavy (80kg) and the controller is only 1500W so it will probably be OK. I think the 1500W motors are bigger and heavier than 1000W motors but I don't know by how much.

@fang64 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 As far as I can tell, the 1000W and 1500W are essentially the same from Voilamart, minus the internal controller and the cable harness breaks out the hall lines internally. In hindsight I think because I am overvolting it anyway at 52v it might have been better to have kept the controller externally. I've seen a guy on forums literally remove the controller and redo the entire wiring hardness for his 1500W to essentially convert it back to the 1000W version with external controller. Looked like a real pain, but in my case I had nowhere to mount a controller that wouldn't be in the way. So I think it's a fair compromise.

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@fang64 I like that I can upgrade the controller but having it internal is very neat.

@colinwhite144 3 года назад

Hi you've got it connected wrong. 1500w wat with 52volt 17.5amps 43mph I've had three 1500w kit all done over 40mph. And open throttle it would beat any car from standing start. I've got 2000wat comes with 1500wat controller it's got some power from standing start 40mph some times. I'm charging wheel to 1500w which will make it faster better range and battery using if the lcd is set up properly which they are already set at factory over 40mph easy and like I y open throttle in low gear it will throw you up and of. So I wiud do some homework on 1500w

@206robert206 5 лет назад

I just got mine running a few days ago... Already got about 50mi on the wheel. It's AMAZING!! you definitely need a torque arm if you use the 1500w setting which pushes me 36mph!!! Insane power, I'm using a 48v 20ah and it drains quickly at 1500w.

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

I fitted torque arms since making this video too as the frame is pretty light. If you think it's good now you should try the "upgrade" I did after making this. I added lots of solder to the heavy duty tracks on the controller as the manufacturer had done a really bad job there creating possible weak spots. I then bridged two of the three current shunts with more solder and added lots of heatsink paste before putting back together. It's even better now and probably more like it should have been from the factory.

@dcos013 4 года назад

thanks for your info 206! how long can you ride the bike hard for till the battery drains? I've just ordered the same hub and wanting to see if i can get away with 52v 14ah battery

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@dcos013 Hi David I haven't used this kit much as the bike is too small and I'm building another ebike so I can't give you any proper numbers but it is easy to work out. The controller draws around 30 Amps and you have a 14Ah battery so on full power it will empty the battery in 14/30 or 25ish minutes. In the real world you'll probably get closer to an hour at around 20mph so a range of around 20 miles. I mostly tootle around at 15mph using peddle assist so with your battery you could probably get double or treble that. Of course all the above depends on your battery being of good quality and genuine 14Ah which can't be taken for granted, there are lots of dodgy battery packs out there and I was bitten that way myself by buying direct from China.

@blackbirdxx928 3 года назад

@@alibro7512 My bike has aluminum frame with metal inserts and the tab washers seem to work fine and i dont have the axle nuts super tight...maybe 34 lbs

@Alz420MotorSport-X 2 года назад

What did battery an kit did you go for mate an which is the best one for me to go with for the first one I want a fast one. My brother I don’t speak to have theirs done an don’t tell me how to go about ordering them. Thanks ever so much advance😊🙏🏼

@waypine1998 2 года назад

Hey I use tape my self I also use heat resistant vinal wrap,gives it a popping look and you can make it more aerodynamic. I mean I have a 1000w and a NB controller, 48v 20ah, I'm 6'5 195lbs. And 20 a hill 37 on the flats 45 down hill, oh and airless honey com tires

@mangodwins6328 3 года назад

Good controller gearless just like a motorcycle u can wrap zip ties around your tire's they even have steel zip ties now for snow rubber for dirt extra nobbies... LOL tear it up and I put motocross hander bars way better cheap why not better controller keep that outer ellbow up on turns head and upper body tords the front sit back to do wheelies use back brake u will find your balance piont,,

@RicardoTheCraneOperator 4 года назад

Hi, after about almost a year now how is the ebike kit keeping up and performing? Would you still recommend it or is there any other good kits you know about it? Thanks

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Check my newer videos. Still going well in another bike although now with a better throttle and controller but this was always about the motor, not the kit as a whole. The original controller is still working fine but I wanted an upgrade.

@skootskoot6866 3 года назад

I am getting this kit and am wondering if it is susceptible to water damage

@alibro7512 3 года назад

The motor seems to be fine but I wouldn't trust the seals on the controller. If you plan to ride in all weathers then best find a way to cover it.

@skootskoot6866 3 года назад

@@alibro7512 alright thanks for the info

@VirantRoss 3 года назад

Could you of opted to put it on the front instead of the back? My bike is missing & needs a front wheel...

@alibro7512 3 года назад

I wouldn't put a 1500W motor on the front wheel of any bike for a couple of reasons. The weight would make handling poor. The power could bend the front forks as they are not designed to pull the bike along.

@mangodwins6328 3 года назад

I put mine on a back bike rack inside a bag that fits for it everything's in there close to the seat back foot stunt pegs and get a torque arm to keep your axle straight I put one on both sides

@EQINOX187 3 года назад

I bought the 1000w kit a few years back and it was the one that came with the sw900 screen but i quickly changed the controller to a KT sinewave one as the one in the box was a crappy square wave that is noisy as all hell and also changed the screen to an LC3 and it performed great and utterly silent, so like you pointed out a controller upgrade is a must, the motor has lasted well though after 2 years of daily commute use i did have to replace the bearings. As for the PAS sensor it is sadly a flaw of how they work they can only sense rotation but not how fast or how much power you are trying to put down and a new controller sadly does not really fix the issue of controlling speed by PAS rotation, it just reinforces how stupid the UK ebike laws are where they will not allow a throttle that can precisely control speed and increase safety but a pas sensor that goes full send is totally legal, what you can do and you might have already done it is get a KT controller it will allow you to set the assistance level of the PAS, it will not control speed but it will control the power the PAS will deliver though the side effect is you nerf the power in all situations using PAS.

@jesuisravi 4 года назад

you son't seem to be overly preoccupied with aesthetics

@niyaz3644 3 года назад

The uglier it looks the less likely to get nicked

@ianmangham4570 3 года назад

That comes the next day after a few test rides

@bemoattack 4 года назад

Do you know what stator width this 1500w hub is? Is it any larger than the volimart 1000w which are 28mm? If you were to measure the spoke flange width where this image shows 40: ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1knEpK4TpK1RjSZR0q6zEwXXa1.jpg Thanks

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Hi James It measures 40mm at the spokes.

@JustinJJHCS1 5 лет назад

I hope I was a helpful dude and not annoying. I could give you more info once my bike shows up, and I have a chance to install the kit on the new "EruoBike E7 double suspension mountain bike" I ordered. You can only give so much worthwhile advice until you have more self-experience on the subject. and by the look, of this you do have more experience building Ebike Kits

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

Yes mate, very helpful. I probably wouldn't have found the display module if you hadn't mentioned it and even if my arduino setup works I might order one anyway. The homebrew kit can be fitted to any ebike controller and I have a couple of other ebikes. It's always great to chat to other like minded folk, there are a few more of us here. staf.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=1775875df94b65c70bf0540456a88447 I just bought another slightly bigger but 100 times better quality dual suspension mountain bike too. Still debating whether to fit the Bafang BBS01 or this Voilamart kit to it.

@colinwhite144 4 года назад

When you buy 1500wat brushless motor back wheel how can you tell it could be 1000W. I've looked for marketing all there is is serial number

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Motors can be any wattage you choose so long as they don't burn out. It is the controller that dictates the power drawn from the battery and pumped into the motor. In my case I bought a 1500W kit so the seller had to ensure it was capable of 1500W but he may have sold the same motor with a 1000W kit. For all I know they might sell the same motor as 3000W. I've heard of people using them with a 3000W controller.

@colinwhite144 4 года назад

Hi the main f of bike is battery bigger the battery more power. A lad on utube 1000W front wheel brushless mother he made batteries out anything he could get his hand on total voltage 52 45mph that's a 1000W motor I have 48v 20 battery first charger there great soon as you get 75%power drops I would be better of with 52volt 24amp on 1500wat 43mph. My controler is 48v will that be OK with 52volt battery

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@colinwhite144 48V controllers are fine with 52V. In fact 52V is normal 13S, mine is 58V with 14 cells in series ie 14S.

@colinwhite144 4 года назад

Hi so you 48v controller and you using 58vbattery does your controller get hot. I've herd sometimes if you ues 52volt battery you can cook your controller

@colinwhite144 4 года назад

Hiagain I know you mentioned it in your last message so I serposebif you've done it it must be ol. I've just bought another 48v 20amp Rack Battery. I wish I hadn't bought it now I'm trying to sell on ebay. The seller won't take it back because its not faulty there was a good tack battery last year it was 52volt 26amp I nearly bought it but worried about controller. I've got two batteryz the same 48v 20amp. But one battery charger is 2amp the other is 3amp does that mean the cells are slightly different

@bobjerome5390 4 года назад

hi i done the same kit yes it is fast you can do 30 mph watch out in london there are cops that will tell you of don.t use a 36v cell it will not work i put on a 48v cell it could kick big time lost for words the cell last for a long time tranks for the video

@bayar653 4 года назад

Question mate, u know the display that comes with 48v 1500w which is the SW900. Would the kit work with a different display thats similar and also 48v ?

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Sorry I don't have one and don't know much about it.

@javierchaparro4769 5 лет назад

Finally a hub, bro you have to see my ebike now "1000w 48v" hub topped to 50A 96V at near 6.5HP its a beast (80kmph) very quick

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

WOW! Sounds scary, you'll have to post a video of it. Any issues with over heating?

@javierchaparro4769 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 no, I oil cooled the hub

@dcsjustforfun7437 5 лет назад

@@javierchaparro4769 🤔 how oil cooled? Any video link please

@javierchaparro4769 5 лет назад

@@dcsjustforfun7437 i will Post a video soon, basically, you drill a small hole near the Axle, and put motor oil on there, i have minimal leaking, i putted 30ml of 5w-30 semi-sintetic oil, it reduces drastically overheating, by transferring quickly the heat from the stator to the outside, ferrofluid is the best option, but i live in Argentina and is impossible to me to obtain, so i put motor oil on it. Minimal leaking so far anyway and i don't have disk brake anyway

@dcsjustforfun7437 5 лет назад

@@javierchaparro4769 bro you are a village scientist 😜👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@xboxice2005 4 года назад

Hi Ali can you share a link to them front lights bro :)

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Sorry mate, they don't seem to be available anymore but if you search aliexpress for 12V to 72V lights you can find similar headlights for a few dollars but they will be single instead of double.

@xboxice2005 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 Awesome thanks bro 😎

@Mrpiraterias 5 лет назад

Does anybody know how to reset that blue wire? I had everything working then I hooked up that blue wire and it stopped working I unplugged it and still not working

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Sorry never had the problem.

@ronny2scoots 3 года назад

With a different display unit like sw900 you can adjust pedal assist cadence setup to be more controllable.

@alibro7512 3 года назад

Yes I heard about that a while ago but as supplied this kit was hopeless and possibly downright dangerous with the pedal assist supplied. Replacing the controller made it much better.

@fang64 4 года назад

Just a minor suggestion, to anyone getting the kit and happens to make the mistake of not putting loctite 641/non-perm on the disc for the disc brakes, voilamart will sell you the cable going into the hub. I got quoted $15 for it from them. Seems obvious to me now but it was a silly mistake, it sliced right through the cable.

@alibro7512 4 года назад

That's great info thanks.

@rhaize1644 Год назад

Yes I made the mistake yesterday but luckily the wire wasn’t damaged. I’m getting some locktight rn

@realestatestudent213 4 года назад

Could this system work without connecting the pedal assist?

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Yes, that's how I ran it before replacing the controller

@honda4004 5 лет назад

could you coil aluminium wire round the outer rear wheel motor/drum to act as a dispersion heat sink as the air will aid heat extraction and easy to wind as you spin wheel to spool it on

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

I guess that's possible but you can buy heatsinks for hub motors if needed. This one was completely cool after a few miles flat out riding so it won't be a problem until I upgrade the controller. After that then oil cooling is the first fix I'll try.

@jazzywillo10 4 года назад

So I got the same kit. The instructions say to put the wire on the right side otherwise it will go backwards. I'm seeing here that yours is the opposite but you've not experienced any problems. I'm hoping my instructions have just lost in translation and that I will not have to convert the drive sprocket to the other side

@alibro7512 4 года назад

I didn't have any choice which side it went on as the cassette is on the other side. If you have problems swap one of the phase wires (the three wires that go to the motor) and it should rotate the other way. The colour shouldn't matter.

@jazzywillo10 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 thanks my friend

@yoso585 4 года назад

Battery quality should not be discounted. I have an upp and have been surprised to the upside. If you are paying considerably less for the same stats as an upp, your probably getting significantly less. At least be aware of what a quality battery should weigh. I just mention upp as a benchmark.

@alibro7512 4 года назад

If you watch my more recent videos I rebuilt this battery using a better quality welder plus more serial links and it is now much better. The cells are still not great but they are what I have so without spending a lot of money on better cells it will have to do.

@yoso585 4 года назад

Ali Bro Understood. Just putting it out how important the battery is to other viewers. It is, in a sense, the main motor.

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@yoso585 I agree that on any normal ebike the battery is as important (or maybe more so) as the controller or motor, but in my case the alternator motor was the biggest issue due to the poor gearing. If I had been able to (or could be bothered to) resolve the gearing issues it could have worked fine but the bike was too small for me anyway so this build was always only temporary. The motor is now on my Trek mountain bike with a different controller, brake handles, throttle and upgraded battery.

@Platochidi 4 года назад

Did you push apart you frame to get your cassette and rim in place? My seeds like in need a few mm

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Yes, its normal for them to be a bit tight. Also you might need to file the drop out to get the axle in fully.

@christiankulzer2924 3 года назад

Why does it make a sound like that ? This wheeeee Sound

@alibro7512 3 года назад

I'm not certain but I suspect the cheap controller makes the motor noisy.

@bernardoallones8579 5 лет назад

I got that kit, but sadly it’s not included motor controller in my package.

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

I deliberately bought the kit with a separate controller as I knew I would be messing with it.

@ronaldphillips311 4 года назад

Cassette.

@1estonio1 4 года назад

Hello how many hours keep riding?

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Hi If you watch the rest of the videos in this series you'll see I have a new battery. How many hours or miles depends on speed, hills and if I pedal. Lots of pedalling, 60 or 70 miles. No pedalling and very fast, maybe 20 miles

@FreePizza007 4 года назад

Can the wheel support disc brakes?

@alibro7512 4 года назад

I believe so but haven't tried it.

@williamcarroll5402 3 года назад

For the controller get a sabvoton controller

@alibro7512 3 года назад

I bought a KT controller for it and for now I am happy with it. I have a Sabvoton 3kW controller for a possible future upgrade so watch this space.

@lukealexander6849 4 года назад

What controller is this bud?.

@alibro7512 4 года назад

No idea. It was in the kit.

@maxpower001 4 года назад

Mine came with the controller integrated into the motor... Very clean install, no wires or tape anywhere 😎

@alibro7512 4 года назад

I agree it is neater but I wanted to be able to change the controller to make it faster. Also make it easier to repair if the controller fails.

@busybody1474 4 года назад

Max Power no thanks, if that controller Fry's you'll be hating that purchase

@maxpower001 4 года назад

For less then $200 I don't mind replacing it if I suffer a failure, which I don't really see happening. My last set up had OVER 4k miles on it without any mechanical trouble what-so-ever.. they seem pretty bullet proof ⚡

@busybody1474 4 года назад

@@maxpower001 quick question, is the battery cable long enough to reach a front carrying rack? I don't want all the weight on the rear wheel

@maxpower001 4 года назад

@@busybody1474 that shouldn't be a problem

@plodderexup 5 лет назад

Did the original controller support regenerative braking?

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

Hi buddy, I think this might be the cheapest 1500W controller made so I don't think so. At least I never noticed any option to enable it.

@plodderexup 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 OK, thanks. I might just rob the 1500w off my tandem as we dont use it much these days.

@jessemeanlt1 5 лет назад

Make a 2 wheel drive one!

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

Lol it had occurred. Might happen too 😋

@VirantRoss 3 года назад

Imagine having one on each wheel.. That thing may outrun some motorcycles or dirtbikes.

@A1Bokeh 3 года назад

@@alibro7512 did you do it?

@revparsons3tl 4 года назад

Did you find out if it was 1500w controller

@alibro7512 4 года назад

As far as I know yes. It was drawing around 30A at 50V so 1500W. I have replaced the controller with another that has cruise control but the motor is great.

@revparsons3tl 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 thanks for your reply mate I need a new controller I've got a 1000w at 35amp but I think there is a problem with it

@charlieherman6711 4 года назад

What battery did you use??

@alibro7512 4 года назад

If you watch my other videos you'll see me building it.

@westleyadcock6903 5 лет назад

Are you running a 48v or 52v battery? Just wondering if the controller could handle a 52v battery?

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

It's currently 48V (13S) but I've heard that 14S or 52V should be OK. There are changes afoot that mean this kit will be going into a different bike with plenty of space for a few more cells so watch this space.

@CBFREE 4 года назад

Fit a Sw900 LCDBike computer that allows you to adjust speed when the PA is on. Nice instructional video. Thanks.

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Yes I could do that but I'm to stupid to do the sensible thing. 😋 When I get back to it I'll be having a go at creating pedal assist from an Arduino. If you watch my more recent videos I talk about it

@vincenzotatti3325 4 года назад

Hey Colin, I know this kit comes just with throttle, so I wondering if I will buy a sw900 separately, it will be easyer to install or I need to modify the wires?

@CBFREE 4 года назад

Vincenzo Tatti you will need another controller as it depends on the controller you get with the pack. The one that comes in this video was same as mine. It won’t work with the SW900 without internal controller wiring fiddling. I didn’t fancy that and ended up buying and fitting another controller. And after looking at pictures on listings on EBay I got one there. I had bought the SW900 first thinking it would just click on . Nope - and as the video says the PA is a bit fiery and after a few turns of the cranks it kicks in big time even in 250 W mode with a bit of a jump in speed as in the video. Then the issue is gearing keeping up. Basically Even with the cheap controller/throttle for the price it’s great fun.

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@CBFREE Hi Colin Thanks for letting us know about this. I wasn't aware the controller was different but I guess from the sellers point of view it makes sense. As I said before, I bought this kit for the motor and considered the controller was a bonus. For that reason I didn't really care too much about the quality (or lack) of it. I've already replaced the controller with an older one which came with cruise control and I use that instead of PAS.

@CBFREE 4 года назад

Ali Bro Cruise control sounds a good - no thats a great idea. Something about 15mph with brake cutoff would be ideal. I just discovered there is a walk mode on the SW900 which moves you along at .. yup walking speed! You press the centre button then the bottom button once. Found this out when It nearly walked out of my garage on its own while messing about trying to fine tune PAS. Saying this I just bought a Bafang to put on a new build to compare. My wife says “why do you need two bikes?” :) With the Voilamart the only issue after 700 miles is this PA rocket mode saying that you adapt your riding. I pedal then woosh then coast till back to 10-12 mph then pickup the pace with pedaling. Not snapped a chain yet.

@lekebanti9248 4 года назад

Would a 48v 15ah battery be enough for this motor

@alibro7512 4 года назад

A 15Ah battery will be able to supply 15A for one hour. Flat out this motor will draw 1500W/48V or around 31A (watts = Volts x Amps so Amps = Watts / Volts). In theory that means you could ride flat out for around 30 minutes with a 15Ah battery or around 25 to 30 miles but lots of other factor need to be taken into account. Will you be pedalling, how fast will you be going and how far do you need to go? So I would say yes but you might say no, it just depends on your needs.

@lekebanti9248 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 thanks would you recommend I get a 52v instead. How many miles would I get with pas3 and throttle use lightly

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@lekebanti9248 I'm no expert and there are so many variables it is hard to give an estimate but for the voltage I would only go for 52V if the Ah rating is the same or higher. 52V will be a bit faster but unless you want to ride around at 40mph it's not a big deal. Range depends on quality of battery bought (is it REALLY 15Ah) riders weight, terrain, tyres, speed, wind etc but I'd expect at least 50 miles if not too heavy handed with the throttle.

@JustinJJHCS1 5 лет назад

where is your speed sensor that is the reason why the cadence sensor is not working there is no Feedback to the controller from the wheel speed... Mine was Wired along with the HALL Sensor they control the brushless motor... and that throttle display is all you have? you also really need that eco, normal and boost switch default is normal but it will cut your range in half. three-wire plug red, white, black for the speed sensor your kit should have come with a second EM sensor that you strap on the back fork and attach a magnet to the spokes. I am setting up the exact same unit as you are. also, you can leave wires undone shore circuit Hazzard might hurt your controller. I labelled them all and caption taped the Unnessecary antitheft alarm etc all I have for lights is one 38VDC output I am thinking you can put it into a regulatory board to power lights and signals. you also did not say what voltage your Pack is 38/48/50VDC

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

Hi Justin Thanks for your comments. I don't remember seeing a speed sensor in the kit and watched the unboxing again to check so either it is missing from my kit or maybe they change the kits from time to time depending on what components they can purchase. If there had been a speed sensor I would have connected it. Just for clarity the cadence sensor does work and if the 15mph limiter is connected it is usable so long as your happy to be doing 15mph and no slower. I wouldn't like to have it connected if I was weaving through traffic and with the limiter disconnected it's downright dangerous. As for lights I have one similar to this headlight which is brilliant for all voltages but the rears are a bit harder to get for all voltages. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QZO-CNSUNNYLIGHT-Motorcycle-18LED-Headlight-DRL-Lamp-18W-2000LM-Fog-Spotlight/132832340056?hash=item1eed6ca858:g:~TkAAOSwz6pb0KWY My one has a built in buck converter but some of the cheap rears I bought have only current limiting resistors which get very hot.

@JustinJJHCS1 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 you might have to have that sensor to get it to work properly. I had that happen with my kit good components and a LCD screen and a super cheap twist throttle. I recommend the display you might be able to solve all you problems being able to monitor the controller. Improper settings can cause computers to malfunction you might want it do what I did I contacted the seller about a data sheet for wiring To check if the components where plunged into the right plugs they might have plugged it in wrong? Or I just got lucky and got a good controller... All in all I hope you get it running properly I was wondering do you have an auto program wire if that is plugged in it can cause issues its used to setup motor direction and solve a jerky motor.

@JustinJJHCS1 5 лет назад

Another thing my kit did not come with the controller motor bus connector so I'll have to bolt them together and wind electric tape around the connections and my components where not attached so I had to find out off the net which plug did what some where super hard to find like the forward reverse wires. Could be a hilarious mistake if I plugged that one in wrong....

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

@@JustinJJHCS1 Thinking back to when I bought mine I think there was an option to buy one with a display and I went for the cheaper one without. I was originally only looking for a motor and this kit was cheaper than a motor on it's own so I figured I was buying a motor with a free kit as well. I don't think my controller has the connections for a display but maybe you can confirm what they are. It might be fun to find a suitable display and see what it does. Can you set the speed on your controller or use it for cruise control? The self learning wires are common to all ebike controllers I've seen but I've never found they do much except change direction, even my alternator motors were smooth straight off. That style of connector block os pretty common and cheap so it might be an idea to order one. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dual-Row-Covered-Electric-Barrier-Screw-Strip-Terminal-Block-Positions-600V-15A/222973231765?hash=item33ea3d8295:m:m-yXaaVnLFIR6mnOJHnbFiQ I've done the bolt and tape job too and it isn't very satisfactory.

@JustinJJHCS1 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 yes and yes looked it up on you tube the peddle assist on some controllers are set to 5 which is 2 setting higher then you need... and yes you can get throttles that have an extra plug that plug into the display that allow for a + or - setting for the motor and it cancels the setting when you apply the breaks and the wires that you use to plug into the USB for computer flashing ROM are the same wires you use for a display just check your data sheet and put an appropriate plug in there. Mine was setup for a display so this was done for me.

@checkerdecheck9159 3 года назад

What is the width of the frame dropout?

@alibro7512 3 года назад

I can't remember but it was very tight. I only had it in this bike for a few days before moving it to my old Trek mountain bike.

@checkerdecheck9159 3 года назад

@@alibro7512 thx for the reply !

@eurorondon627 4 года назад

Link to buy ?

@alibro7512 4 года назад

The kit isn't available from the seller I bought from any more and Any links I put up will break in days anyway. I suspect if you look for the cheapest 1500W kit on ebay or aliexpress you'll get one of similar quality.

@Kobokhop22 4 года назад

What port was the Controller to Batter, was it XT60?

@alibro7512 4 года назад

Yes but I am fitting the kit to another bike now so will probably change it to XT90 to match my battery. This installation was always only temporary.

@Kobokhop22 4 года назад

Ali Bro thanks for that, thinking of getting a 48v 20ah to combo with this kit, to get to work and back which is only 5kms away, would have easily enough juice to get there and back right? 5km is only 3 miles

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@Kobokhop22 In theory a 20Ah battery will give you over 30 minutes at full power as this kit will draw 30 to 40 amps. Full power for this kit is around 30mph on the flat so would get you approx 15 to 20 miles. In the real world your battery could be less powerful than claimed, you might have hills soft tyres etc but you'll probably not be on full power the whole time and if you pedal at all then the range should be at least doubled so I would say 20Ah is more than enough. The new battery I'm building is 52V and 30Ah and I'm hoping for a range around 60 miles with some pedalling.

@Kobokhop22 4 года назад

Ali Bro yeah it’s all on the flat and back roads so minimal stopping. Thanks for the help brother, your new project sounds killer, I’m just going simple for my first one. Good luck legend

@Ra-zor 4 года назад

Would have loved to have known the actual current draw from the setup you have there!

@alibro7512 4 года назад

I think it's around 30 to 35 amps, possibly a bit more on full throttle.

@Ra-zor 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 Thanks for the reply. I currently have the 1000w motor. I was looking to get the 1500w controller and as it being designed to handle 1500w instead of the 1000w controller I have at the moment (and blown 2 of so far) and actually downgrade it (remove one of the 3 shunts) to make it a 1000w controller. The advantage would be more fet's to spread the load, a bigger case to spread the heat, and easy to get hold of as the 1000w seem to be sold out at the moment. I just needed to know the actual current draw with an ammeter so I could have divided it by 3 when I removed one of the shunts...

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@Ra-zor I'm using a standard China bought 1500W controller at the minute. I think it was around $40. The controller that ships with the Voilamart kit is small and not great quality. When I opened it to add solder to the shunts I noticed the high power tracks were poorly soldered so resoldered them but I changed the controller anyway. Watch my other videos for more info.

@Ra-zor 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 Thanks, will do...

@concentrate8547 4 года назад

@@Ra-zor I own a 1000 Watt motor and my display has amps on it and runs at 27.5 amps at full throttle so if you downgrade the 1500 watt without one shunt you will not be able to get full power on the thousands watt motors. It doesn't make sense until you look at the watts. A 1000 w can run up to 1300 watts full power so if you leave the 1500 w controller as it is you can get full power and not hurt anything

@thepythonteacher 5 лет назад

What voltage was this? 36?

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

No mate, 13S so approx 48V

@codyviera92 4 года назад

1500 watt is not entry level lol

@joerainier4263 5 лет назад

Use a resistor on output of cadence sensor to drop the voltage to controller. Use a potentiometer to find ideal resistance, or just keep pot for adjustable cruize control.

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

Does the cadence sensor send a voltage to the throttle sensor in the controller? If so this could work but I changed the controller to a more powerful one that doesn't have a cadence sensor connection.

@joerainier4263 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 I don't have a scope to test for sure, but on my kit with an led control panel I'm pretty sure it takes signal from cadence sensor and then sends a voltage to controller just like throttle. I think cadence signil is pulsed since it's spinning magnets, but I'm pretty sure led control board just sends a 1-4 voltage like throttle. I think that's why they all just work like a full throttle switch, especially if you run higher voltage. I haven't tested yet, but I think resistor of correct value would work to drop voltage for a more reasonable cadence . If you don't have cadence sensor option on your controller you might be able to use cycle anylist to add it. Might want to contact them and ask about it. I don't want to spend that much money so I've been trying to research how to do it without a display unit.

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

@@joerainier4263 I was thinking about trying to control it through an Arduino but been busy recently so haven't got back to it. If an Arduino could interpret the signal from the cadence sensor it should be possible to connect it into the throttle.

@joerainier4263 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 yeah that sounds promising. All the display units have pros and cons so I want to do something similar so I can control pas without shitty display, and just have volts,amps, what hrs, on cheap Amazon power meter, and mph, trip,GPS on phone Wich is always on bike anyway.

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

@@joerainier4263 My thoughts exactly, "keep it simple". I'm busy with other projects atm but would like to get back to this one as the bike is now pretty much unusable as a bicycle. It's a lot of fun to blast around on but I want to be able to use it like a normal ebike too.

@dcsjustforfun7437 5 лет назад

What happened to car alternator bro

@alibro7512 5 лет назад

It wasn't practical. I need a way to gear it down and on this bike there was no room. I might have another go on a different bike.

@dcsjustforfun7437 5 лет назад

@@alibro7512 bro see this... ""Ather"" indian ev design.... You will wonder....and i have to ask you.... If you replace rotor winding with Permanent magnet efficiency will imrove..... encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZK2FFuUpg3gz8z8crgkHKsKU8VEcXzhSP_RLV7JaAU9F5lavOYBeFN7S0

@bernardinomorillomerino4110 4 года назад

Hi Ali! I am assembling the same kit nowadays. Is it possible to work only with the handle throttle? I do not want to install the pedal sensor. Is it compulsory to make it work properly?. Thanks

@alibro7512 4 года назад

It is not necessary to connect the PAS sensor, the kit will work fine without the pedal assist but I like to use it on my Bafang mid drive kit which is why I want it for this kit. I hope to get it working on the next bike using an Arduino.

@bernardinomorillomerino4110 4 года назад

Ok. I al not able to make It work. I think everything is correct. Maybe something is Broken in the kit

@alibro7512 4 года назад

@@bernardinomorillomerino4110 Is your battery at the correct voltage? If too low it won't work. Have you connected the power switch on the throttle?

@bernardinomorillomerino4110 4 года назад

@@alibro7512 Yes. Battery has 52V. Checked . I have some pictures. Where I can share you?. Everything is connected fine and the screen is working. When I connect the battery I have a spark when I join red wire with red wire and I think the controller could be broken.

@bernardinomorillomerino4110 4 года назад

Battery is 48V and 52V measuring it however is only 10A. I think this is not a problem. This is the battery in fact: cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=383266496079&view=all&tid=1034023159025

@standbyme6395 5 лет назад

Looking at buying one now. From what I've read they are throttled down to 750w to make them legal to sell in the u.s. although you can bump it up to that 1500w. Its inside the controller from what I gather.

@ssmith6735 Год назад

Great video. The Jauopay 1500 watt with built in controller is the same motor just rebranded. Removed my internal controller and upgraded to a external 3000 watt controller. Runs great. Top speed over 40 mph. Only issue was bearing making noise after riding in rain. Oiled bearings with synthetic oil and smooth again. Has been a great hub with good technology built into it for the price.

@dogit1840 4 года назад

usually the specifications for the controller written right on