The reason that the 5 cylinder engines ended up in the end of the P3 runs was because Volvo didn’t have an awd transmission ready for the 4 cylinder engines so in order to have awd models they used the 5 cylinders
mine is a s80 model year 2008 with 5cyl petrol turbo 258 hp and 390 Nm with a little help from my friends of BSR of Sweden. So this engine was an option for the very first times of P3 series in Europe at least. Greetings from Greece
I own Volvo S60 2012 D3 and in 5 years, it never left me stranded, even after taking 2000km+ trip across the Europe. Yeah, at its age it costs some in yearly maintenance costs, but so does any car. I've recently upgraded to XC60 2022 Recharge T6 and I love it even more. Never been in more comfortable car!
The visual showing 2.0 4 cylinder that represented the T5 Drive-E was incorrect though. That’s a 1999cc Ford Ecoboost that Volvo called GTDi; and was introduced into the P3 as the 2.0T (203hp) in 2010, and as the T5 (240hp) in 2011 for other markets. It saw service in all P3 models except the XC70. My favorite will still be the RN and RNC blocks. They gave Volvo its character since the 850. Here in Singapore, the RNC is extremely reliable, compared to the Si6 T6. Though the latter had minimal engine issues, its parts weren’t lucky. It was plagued with issues such as weak aircon compressors (that fail before 60,000miles), weak alternators (around 70,000miles) leaky brake vacuum pumps (also failing before 60,000miles), degrading ignition wirings (that break like twigs around 75000miles) and the timing chain guide that cracks (around 90,000miles). These issues barely surfaced on the RNC block, and also because it ran a timing belt instead. I’d take the 5 cylinder anytime! 😆 Nevertheless, awesome video!
@@benjamindoyle668 Yeap. The Ford engines were used extensively as the 2.0T and T5 in several regions alongside the RNS engine before the Drive-E was released. There was also an Ecoboost 1597cc T4 and T3 used in the S/V60. It was the transitional time too when Volvo stopped using nomenclatures such as 1.6D, 2.0T, 2.5T, etc, and switched to just T2 to T6, or D2 to D6. All Ecoboost engines were eventually replaced in mid 2014 with the 4 cylinder 1969cc and 1498cc Drive-E (or VEA) engines. The 1498cc was short lived, and was eventually succeeded by the 1477cc 3 cylinder VEA engines.
Can confirm, t6 is the only way to go for a P3. Can swap to a manual on these with m66 and all a shifting gear from a euro with the manual option. Programming ECM and CEM to play nice you're on your own though... KTM (iirc) claims to be able to do it for about $25k start to finish all expenses included. I'm planning to attempt to swap my t6 XC60 in the next year or two with help from a notorious Volvo tuner.
Would love a manual swapped 3.0T6 V60 Polestar! Or, how about V8 swapping a P3 V70 R-Design with a manual, that would be cool too! 25k is a hefty price tag for that, certainly a lot more difficult than manual swapping a P80 or P2.
We'll have another video going over specific trouble spots. There was definitely a lot to talk about as far as explaining the chassis and engine options. Thankfully the trouble spot video will be a lot shorter as these P3 cars are pretty solid!
inscription is the trim level that is alternative to r-design. It has comfort chassis as opposed to sport chassis. The long wheel base configuration is named as L at the end of the model
Great video, I purchased the xc60 t6 r-design polestar and love it. Wife asked me to trade it for a dodge ram, she lucky I don't trade her up for a younger model 😅
The Volvo models of this platform had many body stampings that couldn't be made by the Ford suppliers for the other brand versions due to Volvo not relaxing some standards. 3.2 engine production ended and the 2.5T that was used all along in the rest of the world outside North America was the easy emissions certification substitution. Drive-E 2.0 4 cylinders were not at full production yet and AWD components were available at the time.
Just for FYI: T6 for a v70 swap is a significantly better choice than a v8. It was the choice I made and I have zero complains or second thoughts about. Also, converting an xc70 to a v70 is easier than engine swapping, which is also how I created mine.
I have a 2014 S60 with the 4 cylinder VEA engine which is really rare and it already had the facelift that you mention for 2015. And FYI I live in México and her we got the T3 and T4 also and the T6 range was the same as the US, the T5 consist of 3 engines two four cylinder one being the volvo one, and the other being the one used in the focus ST in fact the whole drivetrain was ford even 6 speed dual clutch transmision, and finally the 5 cylinder everyone knows. For T4 we got two four cylinder engines one being the 2.0l volvo engine everyone know right now but with les power, around 170hp, and again a Ford drive train this time being the one used in Ford Fiesta ST with the 1.6 turbo.
Thanks for the insight, Mario! Looks like the Mexican market got similar options to the European market P3s. In the United States, we only got a select few engine options.
Love it! Ive got an '11 s60 t6 AWD. I would love if yall could make a service guide for the READ unit. I cant find much info on it anywhere, and it seems like if your READ unit goes out, your motor is toast. Are there any preventative measures we can take to ensure the health of the unit? I have a rattle around the area, and I am not sure if its the unit itself, the alternator, the alternator pulley, or one of the one-way clutches. I think that could help a ton of us out. I was so excited when I saw you guys made a P3 buyers guide!
No use in making that guide. The motor replacement is indeed a better approach! Nobody and I mean nobody bothers replacing a READ anymore with how cheap used motors have gotten.
Forgot to add, as for preventative measures, change your oil every 5k and use quality oil as FCP of course offers handily. The good news is READs almost never fail!
I recently worked on a 2011 V60 with a T5 badge. The MAP sensor had failed causing DSTC and transmission codes as well as the MAP sensor code. The entire engine had FoMoCo stamped on various parts and a Ford MAP sensor with the same Bosch number fixed the problem. I don't see how you can say these 4 cylinders variants in 1.6 and 2.0L capacity are NOT Ford motors.
One major segment missing from this video is common problems. Used buyers will want to know that owners of the Short Inline 6 (si6)/ Si6 + turbo (si6t) engines (my 2014 s60 t6, polestar tuned) report excessive oil consumption. Volvo's issued TSBs on testing for and replacing problematic piston rings, but did NOT issue recalls to fix it. (I see some posts from pissed off owners in forums)
7:30 I don't know about overseas export models, but over here in Europe the later 2.0 T6 polestar models are also numbered, not on the steering wheel but on the sill panels. I've seen one myself from 2018 that said ENGINEERED BY POLESTAR XXX/1500 there.
I have a 2015 v60 ocean race which i guess is h2 since it has acc, adaptive lights, and the frameless rear view mirror. I added rear and front cameras afterwards (volvo options that can be installed if you have sensus) and it’s all the car i need. I test drove the new xc40 but hate the touch screen so I’ll live with this for a while 😊
I have had 3 V70’s which all were amazing but 😢all 3 had same failure at the end [Transmission breakdown]. I now own an 2014 S60 which I love but it will be junked due to Transmission failure also. All front drive transmission’s are weak. I wish Volvo made better Transmissions !! You may think 🤔 I’m nuts because about to purchase another Volvo 😊
I'm in the market for a V60 polestar. In your honest opinion or your suggestion based on experience, which engine is more reliable? The 6 cylinder or the 4 cylinder twin charged? I'm torn between the two engines. There's not much data out there, and the forums have been quiet about their experiences of the two. Actually, it seems like forums have been in slow decline of participation.
Hi Armand, the 6 cylinder is likely going to be more reliable. We regularly see the turbo 6 with over 200k miles. The 4 cylinder is direct injected and has a turbocharger and supercharger so overall there are more components that could potentially fail, plus the carbon buildup issue that will eventually need to be addressed with any direct-injected engine. The 6 cylinder on the other hand is really quite a simple port injected turbo inline 6. Also, power-wise, the 6 cylinder is going to be less stressed than the 4 cyl. -Jacob
What I find so sad is that Volvo stopped making the 3.0 L T6. I very much doubt that the 2.0 L inline 4 they have today will stand up, especially with the weight of the XC60. Indeed, one your commenters has noted oil-burning problems with the 2 L. I count myself fortunate to have recently found and bought a used 3.0 L T6 XC60. This may be my last Volvo, unless they come up with another as quiet, well-made, and durable, but I doubt they will.Capitalizing on the eco-guilt market, they will soon be doing away with all petrol motors.
It's definitely sad they stopped making the 3.0 T6. But that's happening almost everywhere. It's actually surprising to see such a modern car with a big inline 6 engine even at the time, so for that reason alone, it's a pretty special car.
The 2.0 is actually quite good (once you get past the first two years especially, same as the previous 3.2/3.0 SI6 which also pretty much sucked in 2007-2008.
great video, learn a lot, only the background noise bothers very very much. Hope next time can only hear your beautiful voice. NO BACKGROUND NOISE PLEASE
Proud owner of a '16 S60 Polestar, they're a dream to drive. I love how subtle yet powerful they are, hardly anyone expects a Volvo to look or sound as great as it does. Uber rare and lowkey sleeper status, it's an amazing daily driver.
Correction. Proud owner of a S80 V8, they're a dream to drive. I love how subtle yet powerful they are, hardly anyone expects a Volvo to look and sound as great as it does. Uber rare and lowkey sleeper status, it's an amazing daily driver 😁
Great video! I’m a big fan of the P3 cars, I currently have a 2017 V60XC and we have had several others in the family. They have generally been very solid and reliable, and I prefer the driving dynamics to those of the P2 cars. To answer the question of why the RNC T5 appeared in 2016 XC70 T5 AWDs, you are correct that it was due to supply. Volvo was phasing out both the 5 and 6 cylinder engines in 2016 and due to low supply of T6 engines and high supply of T5 engines we got a one year only special. At least that’s what they told us Volvo dealer employees!
Several years ago I bought a 2016 V60, T5, my forth Volvo to own. It was a CPO and I paid a premium. Compared to my previous Volvo's, after 3.5 years of ownership, it has been a terrible experience, the maintenance is as fat as my last Jaguar XJ40. All problems were electrical, costly but luckily it was covered under the CPO warranty. I've only put 27,000 miles on in three years and now, in winter, I am not getting good heat out of the vents. Could it be that expensive climate control module is dying again? TO make matters worse, my VIN is part of the engines that can have the seriously bad excessive oil use, bad rings. Volvo did give an extended warranty for the oil problem 8 years / 100,000 miles. I have 51,000 miles on the car, oil problems usually don't appear until about 60,000 miles. If I start having oil issues, the extended warranty will not be available. If you are having the oil use problem, Volvo wants a oil use test completed before warranty and that is a $900 test. If your dealer doesn't do it as a courtesy, yep --- you pay. I've test drove some newer Volvo's but not thrilled. I have a bad taste now and my next car will be a Honda, Lexus (Toyota). I used to do all my own maintenance but now that I'm into my 70's, Im just not into doing the work. We have a 2011 Honda CRV with 125,000 miles on it and the maintenance file is minimal and only have oil, tires, etc. My first Volvo was a P544.
Had that S60 “L” Inscription and liked it, definitely great value for money. All the bells and whistles on it; heated steering wheel, adaptive cruise, harman kardon… As a tech, working on the P3 chassis isn’t too bad, but some things are a real pain. The radiator for example is a much bigger job, about double the labor of a P2. The wheel bearings require a shop press, which is a huge pain compared to simply bolting on a hub on a P2 car. More routine stuff like the cabin filter and fuel pump got a bit harder as well, but nothing worth sweating over. Great cars all around and some very nice improvements like beefier components (thicker threads and 17mm vs 13mm hex on the tie rods made for easier alignments, for example… stronger control arm bushings and seemingly stronger ball joints too). The 6-speed auto will last if its fluid is changed on a semi-regular basis. The later models especially.
Thanks for the insight, Rob! P3's are definitely tough cars. We would imagine also adding an upgraded oil cooler to the 6-speed auto could help with long-term longevity.
Awesome video. Really interesting to see the different engine variants offered in the US compared to Australia. Here in Australia, I absolutely love the twin turbo D5 Diesel engine on my 2012 P3 XC60. Develops HEAPS of torque @ 440Nm and is super reliable too 👍🏼
Thanks, Steve! We always get the short end of the stick when it comes to Diesel's here in the United States 😞.....would absolutely love a twin-turbo D5!
i have that twin-turbo D5 in my XC70, model year 2012, amazing thing indeed. it needs a bit of maintenance in around 250000 km of age, timing belt replacement and head gasket too, but other than that, the only costs it needs is the normal running costs for tires, breaks and oils.
my first Volvo a 2011s60 D5 auto 2.4 twin turbo just had it a year, been driving over 50 years work at BMW and this s60 is the best car ever , had 60 mpg out of it and in sport mode its just wow the sound of that 5 cylinder is to die for
I have a 2012 XC60 T6 with bending xenon lights, 4C suspension, and almost nothing else. Not even a backup camera or sensors. I drive it for rideshare and it has 220,000 miles. Minimal repairs, the most expensive being both front axles at 155,000. Best car I've ever had!
As a proud owner of 2014 XC60 with 3 2 Engine that has been zero issue with 64k miles, I wonder why a safety conscious company like Volvo did not put a backup camera on this car. For comparison, my 2005 Prius had a backup camera with touch display screen 9 years earlier than this luxury car.
@@Ce0ammer Given that in 2014, the XC60 had an starting price of over $34k, I would consider it a luxury segment compared to VW or Toyotas that are lower price. Again for a car that boasts about safety and costs over $34K, having no backup camera in 2014 is shameful.
sold the new ish family suv few months ago and randomly stumbled on a 08 p3 xc70 D5, decided to buy it, allthough it was much older than i really liked.. man what a fckn car.. i live in northen europe right outside of the artic circle, it tackles deep snow and mountain passes at amazing level, the d5 motor is brilliant
Good video. 2015 & 2016 buyers beware: the 4 cyl engine is very problematic due to oil consumption. The piston rings were too loose. Hence, Volvos of 2015-2016 with that 4 cyl engine have swamped the used car market with many selling for around $6k. How bad one must feel to have to dump their cars coz of this. In 2017, things were better. However, many 2015-2018 Supercharged 4 cylinders have a problem with failed superchargers. There is a simple fix, though I don't know how much it cost.
My 2015 v60 had the oil consumption issue and led to complete engine failure. I'm involved in a class action suite now against volvo, they knew about the problem and never issued the recall for faulty piston rings.
This was a very comprehensive video. Would have liked to see some problems and weak spots discussed. A video detailing EVERY global engine, transmission, interior, package etc. would probably be a year long. The extreme variety of the P3 chassis gives it a lot of character and means there was something for everybody.
You're not kidding about a video detailing the global market of P3's being a year long 😂. We will have some follow-up videos going over engine specifics as well as common issues to look out for.
Detailing everything probably, but adding those few diesel engines to the engine list should not be that hard. Especially their groundbraking PHEV engine they made with a diesel engine in 2013.
Same. Just found this channel that would be helpful. Just happened to be under the hood of my 08 s80 t6 and noticed an oil leak from my brake vacuum pump. Called a Volvo dealer near me and they said it’s a weak point where oil seeps through the gaskets and the updated gaskets prevent it. Now I want to figure out how to fix it on my own and any other failure points/ problems I may run into in the future
@@dannyrbailey Its super simple! You remove a bracket or two, pull the pump out and replace the 3 o-rings inside. I cleaned and re-oiled before reassembly. Ill try to link you the video I found to get it done. The seal kit is ~$50 I believe. EDIT: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q4wKQowAJBw.html&ab_channel=IPDTheVolvoSpecialists
I have owned a few P80 cars, but I find it fascinating how the 7 series (P90) car model ran all the way from 1982 to 1998 with many facelifts and even renames (700, 900, S/V90) but remained to be a 700 series underneath. It was an incredibly strong 90's car, even though it was originally developed in the 1970's! So that would be my personal favourite. There is a lot of knowledge shared on tackling issues for both the P80 and P90, and pretty much every issue is well-known now. So I think it would be more appropriate to call it an owner's guide rather than a buyer's guide.
I feel sorry for you muricans not having access to the D5 inline 5 cyl 2.4 liters diesel engine on your S60s. probably the best engine after the inline 6 cyl 3.0 liters gasoline engine.
I've owned a manual Volvo V70 2,5FT 2011 R-Design since 2015 and i love it, It's so reliable and powerful! Still runs and feel great. I Will not replace it for many years!
I currently drive a V70 2005 d5 (163hp variant) and it is very smooth to drive, bit sluggish at times to get going from a stop but its also very predictable which makes it nice to drive. I recently had my neighbours 2011 s80 D5 twin turbo to work on (full detailing process) and he told me to go for a little joyride before beginning work (He's an older guy who's super nice) and so i did, man..I did not expect it to be so much smoother than my v70, pair that with the increase in power it felt awesome to drive with, bumps in the road also were nowhere near as noticeable as on my v70. The only gripe i had with it was that my right knee was leaning against the center consoles edge and since it's the "waterfall" style it was rather uncomfortable. Another thing was the automatic shifter with the "manual" mode being on the right side rather than left, what's up with that? Not a major thing but it definitely feels more normal to have it be on the left side.
I own a 2008 D5 XC70 with manual transmission. Love that car! Its the best Ive ever owned and it fills my car guy space aswell with its nice inline 5 sound!
where are all the diesel engines and especially Volvo's LEGENDARY D5, which was then top choice for XC60 and XC70? the combination of 215 HP (or more) with 440 Nm of torque is simply unbeatable thing
I have an S80 V8 and loooove it. IMO the best cars of the p3 gen are the S80 V8 and S60/V60 T6 (of course Polestarts too if you can afford it). The XC70/XC90 with the T6 are also noteworthy if you can't avoid the space requirements for your family. We also have an XC70 T6 and the motor is fantastic.
2018 Polestars also were numbered. The build # was located on the door sill instead of the steering wheel.1500 units built worldwide for 2018. 2015 and 2016 had the lowest production numbers.
@@fcpeuro Lost all power, now won't even start. No one knows. Spent some 5h+ at a dealer diagnosing it at $200 an hour. An individual Volvo expert nor 3 other general mechanics couldn't find what's wrong. Saving up to take my car again one final time to a Volvo fanatic, hopefully he digs something up.
@@fcpeuro Found the issue finally. Cracked head. More precisely, the rocker arms have had their cast broken and the valves won't operate as needed. Been quoted $2500~ for head replacement by a mechanic
Love this in-depth information and content. I own two SPA platform cars and I'm longing to see more DIY maintenance, especially when it comes to the transmission and other AWD components maintenance. Hope to be able to see those soon (and if you need a vehicle to work on, you can use mine LOL)
yeah absolutely not. the 2015 s60 i had was terrible. it DRANK oil. 2 quarts a month in the summer and 1 in the winter. engine completely failed at 96,000 miles caused by oil consumption and a faulty fan with EXCELLENT service records. never again. the original t5 is the best.
Hello, a few days ago I was driving my 2010 XC60 T6, when suddenly the crankshaft plug/seal popped right out, leaking ungodly amounts of oil. I found that the hose from the PCV to the intake was completely bent (as in, the previous owner installed an aftermarket hose and bent it 90 degrees.) I concluded that this caused the seal to pop out. I have since replaced the hose and the seal, and I noticed that the car has strong vacuum from the oil dipstick and fill cap while idle. Would my assertion that a blocked PCV caused my seal to pop out? And is this amount of vacuum normal?
I wish there was a bigger market for performance parts. Sucks having to pay pretty much $700+ for every performance part. I have a 17t n54 e90 too. I can't afford parts for both. 😁
Nice video. Love my XC70 2015 1/2 drive E fwd. I kept my 2004 XC70 all-wheel drive for the nasty weather. I was interested in your comment that the front wheel drive is good in the snow with the Right tires. Are you talking about full on winter tires? Or a good all season?
Thanks, Gwen! We always recommend a proper set of dedicated winter tires for best performance in the snow, especially for two-wheel-drive cars, but even for AWD cars! It really depends on how much snow you get in your area.
I would like to ask you for advice. I would buy a Volvo V60 and currently there are in the offer from 2018 D3 150hp with 145,000 miles and from 2016 D2 120hp with 95,000 miles. Can you recommend which one would be a better choice? Thank you!
I have had both 2013 Volvo V60 D4 AWD with the 2.5l 5cyl diesel engine, with polestar tuning making 215hp, and a 2011 Volvo V70 2.5FT R-Design with the 2.5l 5cyl turbocharged flexifuel engine making 231hp, both of them have been veeeeeery nice cars! :) And previously a 2007 P2 S60 2.5T :)
As someone who works at a Volvo dealer I will say to avoid buying a 3.2 or drive-e T6. If you can find a well maintained 3.2 then you’ll be alright but most 3.2’s I see come through the dealer are not maintained and falling apart. The drive-e T6 models are not very reliable because they are not able to handle the power. 3.0 T6 models are the best to go with. The 5 cylinders in these cars pretty unanimously have oil consumption problems but otherwise are great.
We'll mention it in an upcoming video! In fact, Adam, our Volvo Catalog Manager, has a 2.0 Drive E that had the pistons/rings replaced under warranty, which he will talk about.
I've got a 16 S60 T5 2.0 Volvo only replaces piston and rings for 1st owners with impeccable service history. I bought the car with 20K so I'm left holding the bag which is kind of B's in my book. I service the car as needed never expected to basically rebuild the engine at 114K. The dealership even commented that I must keep up on service well because everything looked great when they tore it down. Volvos janky piston rings were the only problem 🙄 Started burning oil at 70K 1qt between oil change and got worse rather quickly. By 114k it was burning a qt every 800 miles. Just had it fixed.. piston/rings, front struts, charcoal canister filter, and added remote start to it... $8250. Looks like I'll be keeping it long term now.
I liked this video, but you simply ignored any of the problems the P3 gen had with the MPS6 gearbox. The MPS6 is derived from the infamous Ford Powershift and is complete rubbish, so much so that I had a Volvo salesperson tell me to avoid all 4-cylinders from 2009 to 2013, because you never know when that transmission will fail.
Alas, the P3 is still out of reach for my budget. Oddly enough, I found an SPA V60 that’s more affordable. I know, I know, don’t hate me please - I fuct up, didn’t I?
If you think this collection of engines is confusing, wait until you see how many different engines they offered in the EU. They had a whole range of diesel with overlapping and switching numbers and also a bigger range of petrol engines, with the same switching of engine designations. I tried to find out which engines the used in the S80 over the years and I'm still not sure I have the whole list.
Hello i do OWN a s80 with the v8 engine and even though gasoline proces are throug the roof Here in the netherlands, i love this car because it does everthing i want without ever any effort
You are completly missing the Diesel engines. Here in Germany there are 95% Diesel P3 and just a few t's This video could have been very good, but it is noticable, that there was not as much time invested, as it could be.
Hi, Reaver. This video was intended for and based around the US / North American market of P3 cars, where we didn't get any diesel models, unfortunately. If we were to do a full global market video for P3 cars it would probably be 3 hours long 😂😂
I thought the same. Didn't know that the diesel engines weren't sold in america. Here in Switzerland, an estimated 90% of all p3s are equipped with diesel engines. However, from my point of view the D5244T with 215 hp, so as a D5, is the best of all engines that Volvo has ever built!
I recently sold my 2014 v60 D5 with a 5 cylindre diesel. Diesels were more common then gas cars here in sweden at the time as the government were pushing it as a more enviromentally friendly alternative. Then after a few years the prices are raised so now we have the most expensive diesel anywhere in the world (8.56usd/gallon today). It also had four-c. I looked up the prices on replacement shocks and holy crap were they expensive. Well over 1000 usd (10 000sek) a piece. Which as far as i understand would need to be replaced in pairs making it even more expensive. Fortunately I had no major issues with the car for the few years I owned it other then a belt breaking. It didn't scare me too much though, as I upgraded to an XC90 with just as expensive air suspension. I'm keeping my fingers even more crossed this time.
Suprised that there where no diesels avalible in the US. Here in Sweden I think the majority of the P3 cars are diesels. I myself have a P3 V70 from 2010 with the 2.4 D engine making 175 hp and 420 Nm (310 ft-lbs) of torque and I love that car. They where also avalible with a 1.6 and a 2.0 liter diesel and the most powerful being the D5. Awsome video also!
Thanks, Erik! The US market isn't very fond of Diesel engines, so we almost never get any Diesel options here. A shame really, as the D5 is a fantastic engine!
It's my understanding that the reason the last year of the XC70 got a 5 cylinder engine and was noted as the "XC70 Classic" was to use up parts. This is what I've heard from a Volvo tech rep. From what he said Volvo had a number of left over 5 cylinder engines and other parts. For example, if you look at those cars they actually are fitted with park cameras and IHU's (display screens) that were standard on early P3 models. Comparing an XC70 Classic to another of the same year you would not find those same parts and find ones more fitting of the time. The more you know!
