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VW Beetle Budget Build Engine Failure - Tear Down and Inspection 

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We built this engine for Aaron over 2 years ago but he only has about 500 miles on this engine as of the last 4-6 months.
He started having issues with it so we pulled it to take a closer look at what's going on. Originally this was a very tight budget build, only replacing parts that had to be replaced.
Watch as we go though the process and probably dive into a bigger engine build for his beetle.
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@zimms-world
@zimms-world Год назад
Good video. Thanks for showing your process and talking through it.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Thanks you as always for being here, I appreciate ya!
@tasnikas746
@tasnikas746 Год назад
Nice vid Greg, thanks for sharing. Regards from Down Under
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Thank you for being here 🤙
@douglasbarnhart3324
@douglasbarnhart3324 Год назад
Thanks for the video Gary see ya on the next one.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Thanks buddy 👍 Have a great week.
@eugenebaroni1298
@eugenebaroni1298 Год назад
Great video thanks for sharing... Looks like your shoulder is doing well.. Have a good rest of your week.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Thank you buddy! Shoulder is still healing up but the lay 10% takes the most time I was told. Have a great week 🤙
@annies_vw
@annies_vw Год назад
nice. i love an engine teardown and diagnostics vid.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Me too! It’s discovering new things and learning.
@backyardkombi5466
@backyardkombi5466 Год назад
Looks like you are getting it all sorted.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Most definitely. The new plan will come together.
@vwcoco
@vwcoco Год назад
Engine done well 500 miles but a decent case and jobs a good one. Thanks for sharing Gary !!
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Thanks for watching buddy!
@bushpig6837
@bushpig6837 Год назад
Subscribed. These engines are fascinating. I grew up trying to fix my mk1 golf GTI myself, I learned more about engines messing about with air cooled single cylinder bikes more recently. I'm no mechanic but I can just about follow this. Thanks for making it understandable.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
I appreciate you subbing! Hopefully there’s little tid bits that’ll help you out along your journey. I’m not an expert, just a guy doing his thing and putting it on RU-vid. There other great channels out there as well, check them out in the video description below 🤙
@WolfHausMotorwerks
@WolfHausMotorwerks Год назад
Can't win them all! But the new motor will be sweet..... so WIN! 👍
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
You got that right! He’ll be dialed in for sure.
@briansmythe3000
@briansmythe3000 Год назад
Bummer Bro thanks for sharing your tear down procedure Verry Interesting one of them things I suppose Never done a bottom end before on Bess One day I will when I upgrade a few things Cheers
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Things happen and we know why they did on this one. Figured it would be good to take everyone along for the ride. They’re a very simple engine but things have to be right in order for them to work right.
@royworks28
@royworks28 Год назад
This video is so helpful, and great timing. I will be doing this with my engine
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Glad it was helpful, can’t wait to see what you have in store!
@soggz4246
@soggz4246 Год назад
My case has just had a alight bore and new bearings. Havnt even put it back in the van yet. Hoping it’s gonna be ok. All the best.👍🏾🛠🇬🇧
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
@@soggz4246 if the bearing were fit properly it should be just fine.
@HubertusSchaper
@HubertusSchaper Год назад
Hi, Garry wow amazing watching you tearing down the engine, then I don't understand too much about air-cooled gasoline VW bugs or buses, but however they may have the same issues. looking forwards to the next EP.🇺🇸🙏🏻🍀🇳🇴🇳🇱greetings Hubertus
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Hello Hubertus! I figure with the video, it may help others who haven’t done it before the confidence to do it themselves. Hope you’re doing well and staying warm!
@HubertusSchaper
@HubertusSchaper Год назад
@@VWJawbreaker Hi, Garry I´m sure that those who haven't done this before have a great Instruction video here from you, but they have to realize that`s their own risk to try to do that by themselves. well, I try to stay warm it's not that cold today+ 1 degrees over zero. I may try to work a little on the SC. greetings.Hubertus
@ChipsAndSparksGarage
@ChipsAndSparksGarage Год назад
I see he has a serpentine belt tensioner on the block. I’m not too familiar with that setup for a VW and don’t know how much stress it puts on the crank snout. Could that have contributed to the bearing failure? Good video, Gary. This is how we learn!👍
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
I’ve talked to many people and the serpentine setup seems to be split 50/50. I can say that the belt was way over tight by someone else who changed out his alternator and a few other things. I do believe that contributed to most of the damage. But then again, could be other things as well.
@vwmountainman9701
@vwmountainman9701 Год назад
I had to rebuild one engine 2 times. Everything good - fire up & run for break-in. No apparent issues. Upon restart - no go !!!! Both times - bearing issues Now - I order 2 or 3 sets of bearings. To get hopefully - one good set. Shouldn't have to do that - but that is what's it's come to.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
You’re so right, it shouldn’t be that way but unfortunately that’s how things are going now.
@vayabroder729
@vayabroder729 Год назад
I love 90.5s. A single port 1776 built up right is a peppy torquey motor. For internals you can never go wrong with Scat, Gene Berg or DPR.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Yes sir! Reusing the C25 in this will be nice. I did a similar build a while back with the Engle 100 cam, man it’s a beast even with a single 34/3 carb on it!
@martinharris5017
@martinharris5017 Год назад
This is what my engine looked like before I rebuilt it. The wobbly bearings at each end and a ton of concentric play! My 1600 sp is a budget engine, almost totally home-assembled. Almost. The one part of the engine I handed to a pro was the case. I asked for an align-bore. He said "It will cost you, and I INSIST you give me your case, your new bearings, and your new crank." What he did was remove all the oil galleys, hot-flush the case, perform the align-bore, install the bearings and match up all the oil holes, check the crank runout, and then grind the bearings and crank together for "zero misalignment". When he gave me the quote for the work, he saw me choking. he sat me down and said, "either you take the risk, just chuck your bearings and crank in and then install your nice cam and heads etc, and you'll be back in a few thousand miles with a wrecked engine, or you spend the money on the bottom end NOW and never have to open that case again. You can spend money on the top end as and when your budget allows and have total peace of mind that your crank and bearings are good for the life of the engine." And he was right. It cost money, but it was worth it.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Excellent points as always! I agree with the builder. It does suck to spend that much up front but in the end it’ll be worth every Penny!
@FixinBugsNStuff
@FixinBugsNStuff Год назад
Another great video. It can happen with any case. I have to tear down my engine cause of oil leaks between the halves. It’s FB market place engine, not my build.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Appreciate it man. Unfortunately things happen. I’ll try to remember to shoot you an email for when you tear yours down.
@TheEZGZ
@TheEZGZ Год назад
bummer on the old case
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Yes but things happen for a reason. It’s how you overcome the obstacle that defines you.
@richardstone5241
@richardstone5241 Год назад
After market parts are seriously suffering from POOR QUALITY mostly coming out of CHINA. After market CAM SHAFTS is a good example as MANY suppliers are seeing these camshaft lobes wearing down in a few hundred or thousand miles due to no or very little HEAT TREATMENT. A professional LINE BORE and a GOOD set of bearings should fix this and NO on the serpentine belt!
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Many of us have been seeing the same things and it’s been getting worse over the last few years. Other case is being line bored. I’ll fit up new bearings to the crank and case and I’ve already talked him into ditching the serp belt setup.
@richardstone5241
@richardstone5241 Год назад
@@VWJawbreaker Fantastic! Should work out good. Thanks for the response!
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
@@richardstone5241 yes sir, should be good to go once everything has been mocked up and verified. I appreciate you. I always try to reply to all comments since you take time out of your day to leave one. Have a great week.
@type4revolutionstudio
@type4revolutionstudio Год назад
Proper line bore and quality bearings will fix both those cases.😃
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
I totally agree. Case and heads are in the shop getting machined now.
@martinharris5017
@martinharris5017 Год назад
@@VWJawbreaker Make sure the machinist matches/grinds the crank to the bearings (see my rambling comment above)
@type4revolutionstudio
@type4revolutionstudio Год назад
Fun fun...
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Shouldn’t be too bad 🤙
@Mtbeaver9
@Mtbeaver9 11 месяцев назад
Yes my friend that is what I’m going thru. I can’t find a machine shop to line bore my case so Looks like new case. Do you think that if my fan belt was to tight that would make the endplay worse? I try not to ride the clutch at stop lights. Just looking for someones brain to pick. Thanks for your great video as usual. I love your humbleness. You always stay Positive.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker 11 месяцев назад
If you’re going with a new case I prefer the super aluminum cases vs the magnesium cases but that’s just my opinion. Tight fan belt won’t make the end play worse, it’ll wear out the case nose main bearing. Hard to say why you’re having an end play issue, could just be a worn out case…. They’ve been through a lot in 50+ years.
@Mtbeaver9
@Mtbeaver9 11 месяцев назад
@@VWJawbreaker I been looking at white Rhino. Trying to figure out cam and gears. Straight cam gears or heillical. Any suggestions on camshaft ?
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker 10 месяцев назад
@@Mtbeaver9 suggestions will depend on a lot of factors. What size engine are you building? What is the intended purpose for the engine? Cruise, weekend warrior, drag race? A mix of in between? What heads will you be running? What carb setup? What exhaust setup?
@Mtbeaver9
@Mtbeaver9 10 месяцев назад
@@VWJawbreaker yes I know I should give more details. I have a 76 mm stroke 92 bore, panchito 44 heads and duel 44 with merged headers and 8:1 compression
@Mtbeaver9
@Mtbeaver9 10 месяцев назад
Cruiser mostly but still like to get it on sometimes with some imports with fart cans.
@ToughShiftGarage
@ToughShiftGarage 6 месяцев назад
Awesome video, im just about to tackle this to reseal the engine case, i have a leak coming from the bottom just in front of the oil strainer. What do you use seal the case halves?
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker 6 месяцев назад
I’m a big fan of Yamabond. I’ve tried other sealants and Yamabond has worked the best.
@ToughShiftGarage
@ToughShiftGarage 6 месяцев назад
@@VWJawbreaker thank you!
@christophersustayta5974
@christophersustayta5974 11 месяцев назад
Oh yes I also have a sub oil pan.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker 11 месяцев назад
Not sure what you mean.
@Demop_VW_garage
@Demop_VW_garage Год назад
Wonder if its the alloy crank pulley and serpentine belt? A few engine builders I've talked too will not use them because of the damage they can cause to the case. They come loose and slap the inner case surface.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
The person who installed the new alternator definitely torqued that belt, I have a feeling that’s what contributed to the majority of the issues.
@martinharris5017
@martinharris5017 Год назад
They only come loose if not torqued correctly (and preferrably loctited).
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
@@martinharris5017 honestly with the amount of contact surface the serpentine belt has vs a standard v belt, you don’t have to hardly put any tension on the belt tensioner.
@wickedwerks
@wickedwerks Год назад
Not good but still could have been a lot worse! Interested to see how those 90.5s will run with the single port heads. Pretty torquey I’d imagine!
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
I did a 1776 single port a while back with a w100 cam, stock intake and single carb… it runs great!
@wickedwerks
@wickedwerks Год назад
@@VWJawbreaker Did you have to jet it up at all? I imagine you used an H30/31? May have to pick your brain in the near future, I've got several motor builds on deck 🤣
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
@@wickedwerks I think it was a 30/31 but I definitely don’t remember the jetting as it was a few years ago. Good luck picking what little brain I have left 😂 but I’ll be happy to help anyway I can.
@christophersustayta5974
@christophersustayta5974 11 месяцев назад
Hi Gary I need some help I have a 2054 vw stroker motor with an oil filter and thermostat electric oil cooling fan. My question is what would be the correct level showing on my stock dip-stick ?
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker 11 месяцев назад
With all of that you still want to run the engine at the full mark or between the add and full mark. Are you running an oil sump on the engine?
@hussianmohmmad4613
@hussianmohmmad4613 Год назад
All vw same problems last bearing near fly wheel
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Very true.
@levisbackyard
@levisbackyard Год назад
No impact sockets??? 😲😲 Good job
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Really…..
@christophersustayta5974
@christophersustayta5974 11 месяцев назад
Six quarts of oil where should the level show on the dip-stick
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker 11 месяцев назад
6 quarts of oil is double what the engine takes unless you’re running a deep sump.
@kevinhamling1963
@kevinhamling1963 Год назад
Hey man ✌️
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Kevin!!! Hope all is well brother!
@kevinhamling1963
@kevinhamling1963 Год назад
@@VWJawbreaker ✌️
@vintage76vipergreenBeetle
@vintage76vipergreenBeetle Год назад
👍
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
We’ll get it done right.
@nealmont
@nealmont 7 месяцев назад
Can anybody help? I have been away from the VW scene for decades. Why would somebody build a "hot rod" motor with single port heads? Although there is a 36 HP Challenge at Bonneville which is pretty cool. Thanks.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker 7 месяцев назад
This single port is for a bus. It’s one of the signature engines this builder builds and that’s what a lot of people still want for their bus.
@nealmont
@nealmont 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the help. Enjoying your videos.@@VWJawbreaker
@shawn9878
@shawn9878 Год назад
Got a couple questions, if you don't mind... I know my build I went from stock 1970 block to 1776 90.5x69,and big valve heads and Engle 100 tiny cam my rocker shafts had to be shimed .130 .iam thinking wtf .so I am leaning towards cutting pushrods.130 tho?
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
It’s not so much the fact you went from a 1609 to a 1776 but the difference in the aftermarket jugs. There’s a variance I’ve seen between some different sizes in deck height. If you were able to shim the rockers to obtain the proper valve geometry, you could leave it at that instead of cutting new push rods. Up to you but either will work as long as you have plenty of threads for the rocker arm nuts.
@vayabroder729
@vayabroder729 Год назад
@@VWJawbreaker Right on; this is something that needs to be mocked up and measured. Sometimes shims are the right solution and sometimes not.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
@@vayabroder729 I don’t mind a small shim if needed only because I hate cutting push rods. However, if stacking multiple shims is the only way to get the geometry right, then the right way is to cut the push rods.
@shawn9878
@shawn9878 Год назад
@@VWJawbreaker yeah, It keeps me up at night.i think @.130 tho I'll get some push rods . The Porsche adjuster didn't help the height issue had to clearance the underside of rocker arms . Thanks for letting me know
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
@@shawn9878 anytime you switch the adjusters from stock style, shims or cut push rods are needed from what I’ve experienced.
@aaronchilds2568
@aaronchilds2568 Год назад
Maybe in the next video, we can reveal the car it's going into. :)
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
That’s my plan for later down the road 🤙 Gotta reveal that beauty.
@aaronchilds2568
@aaronchilds2568 Год назад
Lol I know you keep calling it a budget build. But almost 4k in the old motor, I couldn't imagine what a non budget build would be. :)
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Well, 4k wasn’t for me to get it built and running…. Non budget build, you don’t want to know with todays prices.
@martinharris5017
@martinharris5017 Год назад
Ten to twenty thousand for no-expense street motor sounds about right. By doing almost all the work at home my engine comes in at about 2500 NZD. That includes $1000 on getting a GOOD engine builder to do the align-bore, thrust-cut and crank-to-bearing custom fitment.
@V8N8T
@V8N8T Год назад
Dang I wonder what caused that to happen? I wonder if the vw community is suffering from bearing quality issues?
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
I really think it was mostly due to the serpentine belt being way too tight… the guy who swapped out the alternator adjusted the hell out of it. Bearings fit snug in the case when i assembled it. .. hard to say exactly.
@V8N8T
@V8N8T Год назад
@@VWJawbreaker very true. Hmm that has me thinking I wonder what extra wear the supercharger belt tension did to my s/c'd bearings?
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
@@V8N8T that would be a good exploration video.
@V8N8T
@V8N8T Год назад
@@VWJawbreaker I agree:)
@mikehammer4546
@mikehammer4546 Год назад
So it sounds like he/your going with a 1776 ?
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Yes sir, he’s going up to a 1776 but staying single port. It’ll be a good combo.
@robertlambert5299
@robertlambert5299 Год назад
Woah. Did he ever change the oil?
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
He did, just got it really hot.
@robertlambert5299
@robertlambert5299 Год назад
@@VWJawbreaker never seen one do that with the bearings.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
All I can say is, it was touched by others after it left my place. The serpentine belt was so tight it could have been used a a guitar string when we pulled it from his car. Things happen 🤷‍♂️
@rongibbs1778
@rongibbs1778 Год назад
Where do you find the specs on the vw engines
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
There’s the Bently manual that has all of the specs in it.
@rongibbs1778
@rongibbs1778 Год назад
Thank you I try to find one
@VWBEETLEOVAL1955
@VWBEETLEOVAL1955 Год назад
that is nasty oil for a 700 miles engine. first red flag: getting hot. second, if that belt hasn't had the right tension on it, it can harm the crank big time. how was that bearing on the inside? be sure to check out the oil pump for wear. i love these video's.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
Hey man! Yes, engine got hot. Belt had way too much tension on it by someone who swapped out the alternator. Bearings facing the crank look good. Rod bearings look good also. Oil pump will be replaced since the other case takes a different pump. 🤙
@larrymcgarage2152
@larrymcgarage2152 Год назад
I don’t understand why he would want to go single port. If he wants more power, it makes no sense, except to save money on intake and carbs. If it was mine I’d spend the extra money. Even a single 40 Weber would make more power than dual single port carbs.
@jimmywilkinson9190
@jimmywilkinson9190 Год назад
it has been said ! even a well ported single port aint got the volume of a stock dual port !!!!!! he would have to get dp intakes and those carbs would still work .
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
He doesn’t want to go dial port and spend more on heads. It’ll still run great being a single port but he’ll just sacrifice top end rpm is all.
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
I’ve seen many single port engines preform very well, they just lose top end rpm is all. If it was mine, I’d put on a set of Pachito heads and run the same carbs.
@jimmywilkinson9190
@jimmywilkinson9190 Год назад
@@VWJawbreaker those carbs will work even on the 1776 . Use the dp heads Aron brought and find some used intakes . I am not knocking sp heads with the right cr they give good low end .
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
@@jimmywilkinson9190 those carbs work great even on 2L in busses. Their heads he brought need more work than his sp heads, not sure those stock dp heads are worth it imo. I put together a very similar combo a few years back and it’s an absolute beast and that’s not even with dual carbs.
@B0L0NYMan-cy2fz
@B0L0NYMan-cy2fz Месяц назад
Too much rpm and downshifting
@OrignalRobRobert
@OrignalRobRobert 2 месяца назад
Bad engine build from the start
@KCPurpleBug
@KCPurpleBug Год назад
That is to bad
@VWJawbreaker
@VWJawbreaker Год назад
It’s fixable 👍
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