VW Golf R or Golf GTI? - Back to Back Test Drives

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I've teamed up with Pendle Leasing to bring you a new series of test drives in more obtainable cars and we're underway with the second video, featuring both the Volkswagen Golf GTI and the Golf R!
The GTI brand is iconic having being born over 4 decades ago and the mk VII version comes equipped with 220PS and 350Nm, along with familiar touches that have remained in the model throughout time; the tartan interior, red highlight across the grille and the golf ball gear knob.
The R was launched initially on the previous generation but now comes packed with 300PS and 380NM, capable of 4.9s 0-62mph with the DSG, but in this case I'm driving both cars for back to back test drives with 6 speed manuals.
The Golf GTI and Golf R (along with many other Golf variants) are available via Pendle Vehicle Contracts. The UK-based leasing company offers special leasing deals for all needs and arrange suitable finance for the private individual, business or even if you are a large fleet customer.
Please check the link for more direct info on leasing a VW Golf or even a GTI or R: www.pendlelease.co.uk/personal...
You will find a specific deal for the Golf GTI here:
www.pendlelease.co.uk/business...
And for the Golf R here:
www.pendlelease.co.uk/business...
If you're interested to know more about leasing in general, take a look at: www.pendlelease.co.uk
Thanks for watching, Tim
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@TheDollarhide 7 лет назад

"From the word go." - my favorite Tim Burton quote

@stfu6397 7 лет назад

Brock Obama true af

@bradryan1025 7 лет назад

"Whistle stop tour" - my least favourite Tim Burton quote.

@maxlane3772 7 лет назад

Kwebbel Kop

@statesidesupercars 7 лет назад

£3000 more for the R? Easy choice if you ask me.

@Shmee150 7 лет назад

You do get a lower base specification as a result though.

@BalkanBoyBiH 7 лет назад

yeah but alot more power

@pumpuppthevolume 7 лет назад

yes easy ....................second hand 2008 Subaru 4x4 automatic around 140hp and around 100k km ...........................4400 pounds

@BalkanBoyBiH 7 лет назад

***** how can you compare a stock car vs a tuned 1? if you tune a golf R it will shit even more on the gti with just a chip tune GTI needs a bigger turbo to get even near the HP as the R

@arielr3200 7 лет назад

CarPassion That's inaccurate. On the mk7 the golf r and the gti share the same engine. The R has stronger internals though.

@MrTARIQSs 7 лет назад

Holy crap seeing you showcasing golfs made me smile so much as a mk7 gti owner :')

@Shmee150 7 лет назад

Awesome, it's a pretty good all-round car!

@crocop2712 6 лет назад

Just bought a GTI 3 months ago and i enjoy it everyday. VW has done a great job

@xlewis1209x 7 лет назад

My friend owns a Golf R with stage 3 remap and other parts installed. Now does 0-60 in 3.5 with launch control

@kristian_bez_j 7 лет назад

the "R" has been around for more than just 2 models.... there was a golf IV R32 and gold V R32.... even the golf III VR6 ... Its only that back then they had a 3.2 liter engine in the R32s and a 2.8 liter engine in the VR6 ... but the point is the R only became just the "R" when they started using 2 liter engine for it..

@ReesesHistoryPieces 7 лет назад

One of the best reviews of these two vehicles. I am looking at both of these for my buy back options in dieselgate over in the states. Thanks so much for a great review.

@nothingnew3419 7 лет назад

These two small hatches are simply adorable! That was a good review, so please, more videos like this 😉

@nolanohana 7 лет назад

Tim, really appreciate the more common car reviews, well done!

@Josh_Wright 7 лет назад

"Very round gearstick" did you miss the point of what it is Tim:')

@patrickpelletier6315 7 лет назад

i guess Tim doesnt play golf. neither do i, but ive always loved the fact that the gearstick at least on the manual versions are basically golf balls.

@freddytommek 7 лет назад

read the description ;) I know that he still said that in the video, but it seems he corrected himself in the description.

@thejhp1 7 лет назад

Josh wright he's used to expensive cars xD

@patrickpelletier6315 7 лет назад

freddytommek perhaps. But then again he can edit the description at a later time

@freakydeakydutch3707 7 лет назад

Nice review Shmee. Just ordered the face lifted MK 7 R. Arrives early next year. Happy days 👍

@Aaa-sl1io 7 лет назад

Your new type of videos is exciting because the thought of more affordable cars is really good

@samuelsantiagoramirez1058 7 лет назад

I m really enjoying this series as much as your supercar videos , its great to see both sides of automotive

@robsamuel5290 7 лет назад

What a legend Shmee - nobody has done a decent back to back review of these 2. I'm torn between them but edging towards the R as an awesome all rounder

@jameshartley95 7 лет назад

great cars but i hate the fake engine noises

@patrickpelletier6315 7 лет назад

i havent finished watching the video but most cars dont use the stereo system for the engine noise. in fact most use a resonator from the intake, it has a charcoal filter or something like that but it tends to be right under the passenger footwell.

@patrickpelletier6315 7 лет назад

yea actually he did just mention it. but the way he said it may mean that it is a valve in the intake resonator that opens or closes

@Doggepp 7 лет назад

The GTI/R has something called a "Soundaktor" its essentially a small speaker that vibrates sound through the front windshield strangely enough. It takes about 2 minutes to unplug, or you can disable it if you have VAGCOM/VCDS - An application where you can modify a lot of different stuff in these cars.

@patrickpelletier6315 7 лет назад

Doggepp interesting, im disappointed VW go that low but then again i guess most brands will move towards that if they havent already

@Doggepp 7 лет назад

Yes I have to agree. Thats why I like the new Focus RS, it actually makes a lot of sound, and exhaust pops&bangs, which is quite rare these days. But then again, you can change so that the valves in the R exhaust is open at all times, not only in Race mode, by changing a few values with the computer using Vag com, and that makes for some nice sound. Did it with my R, and havent looked back since.

@carmangeek8882 7 лет назад

nice job on the review of the R and GTI

@Adam-st2 7 лет назад

Great video Tim!

@Pilkboi 7 лет назад

Loving the coverage of more normally priced cars!

@mikenicolaou4835 7 лет назад

Can't wait for the clubsport & clubsport S reviews 👍

@d0718 7 лет назад

I'm surprised there is so much hate towards the performance Golfs... I've owned a mk7 GTD for over 3 years now and it's the best daily driver I've ever had in my life. Not a SINGLE fault yet, extremely reliable, happy to start and go in any conditions, I've driven it through floods and left it outside during winter for a few weeks and it started no problem. Also has great technology on board usually found in much more expensive cars, very refined, comfortable and high quality car. And yes, yes it is fun to drive, even the GTD. Looks is very subjective, but to my eye they are beautiful, yet grown up, VWs always reminded me of a well tailored suit. So as much as I love the Focus RS and Honda Civic Type R and so on, it's really hard to beat Golfs in terms of daily usability-fun factor balance

@phippsy85 7 лет назад

really enjoying this series, would love to see you review the Leon cupra

@bennel7067 7 лет назад

Shmee these videos are so good👏

@ltd1980 6 лет назад

Just ordered the new R with the DSG box. 310bhp model. Hopefully see you do an updated video on this model

@STIGRS 7 лет назад

Thank you Shmee! Just planing to buy a a hot hatchback. Can you tell how you feel between Golf R and your Focus RS please??

@Figureight 7 лет назад

Does the Golf R add engine sound through the stereo? It sounded really false when you changed the setting.

@thearousedeunuch 7 лет назад

I'm surprised to find you here, Figureight. I watched a few of your videos in the past (3DTuning and a Car Mechanic Simulator video). Regarding the Golf R, from what I've heard it comes with a sound resonator that amplifies the sound. Some owners remove it in order to keep the sound of the engine pure. I did a quick reading of a VW Golf forum for you, and I didn't find any mention of it being directly linked to the drive mode you're in (even though it probably should be, judging from other new cars that pull that one off). :)

@gasperfantas 7 лет назад

The sound definitely amplifies thorugh the speakers, when the Dynamic/Sport mode is selected.

@ashykings 7 лет назад

Mfk33 the sound resonator is attached to the front window and the sound comes off that not through the speakers. the sound dose change with the drive mode but you can go in to the settings and change it to whatever you want to be whatever mode your in. it is not as loud as it sounds in this video in real life. I think it's coz the camera is stuck to the front window where the sound comes from why it sounds so deep.

@thearousedeunuch 7 лет назад

Thank you for clearing that up, Ashford Lee. :)

@KDHF115 7 лет назад

Golf R with DSG is amazing, you also get pops and bangs on the gear changes ;)

@lloyd.8272 7 лет назад

Good to see some reviews on some affordable cars. Any plans to review the M140, rs3 and a45?

@eltombo5843 7 лет назад

The Alan Partridge of automotive journalism...

@iHeadHunterz 7 лет назад

I have a manual 05 beetle turbo and it is sooo fun to drive. It is surprisingly fast for what it is. That little car is great

@jrnascimento1448 7 лет назад

These two cars, are more than adequate for a daily use. Paul has to put this in his head...

@andrewah1810 7 лет назад

I've been looking at the Golf R for a while but can't decide wether to go automatic or manual? I've always driven manual and think the auto might take the fun out of driving? Any thoughts? Cheers

@domingos123456789 7 лет назад

Tim, a little help. The Mk4 GTI had a change in font so no all of them had the same. Another point, the GTI has no estate version unlike the R.

@Shmee150 7 лет назад

Thanks! Love the little details, I tried to research but sometimes it's impossible to find out everything.

@m4xww 7 лет назад

Domingos Pereira The Mk4 GTI Anniversary used the font 🤓

@Justin-hh9ro 7 лет назад

i thought the mark 3 also had a different font?

@bennel7067 7 лет назад

Shmee these videos are so good 😃

@Oldmansland1 7 лет назад

Awesome car!! I'm definitely getting one of these with a manual transmission.

@sergioaranda55 7 лет назад

what do you think of VW Scirocco?

@bensalmon7544 7 лет назад

Great video from the word go

@supraking85 7 лет назад

any chance of a fiesta st-line (zetec s) and st comparison?

@ejmfletch465 7 лет назад

Great video Tim! It would be nice to see a comparison video with the mk2 and mk3 generation Focus RS's 🚗💨 Especially as you're an RS owner 😊

@kylewalton1 7 лет назад

Tim, have you just recorded this video or did you film it a while ago because I picked up my Golf R estate at the start of September and I got Nav as standard

@gavshields83 7 лет назад

Leasing information? You've sold your soul son.

@8o08o 7 лет назад

Is the engine noise not "canned" (Soundaktor) especially when race setting is selected, instead of being mechanically created..?

@TheGreatestDaneEver 7 лет назад

Got my '16 GTI for $23,000. Absolutely love it; best value for the money imo.

@jlelouch5464 7 лет назад

Hey Shmme. Compare VW GOLF R and Ford focus rs, which one do you really enjoy for driving?

@ziondescheemaecker3678 7 лет назад

i got the golf R with the dsg and its awesome! the dsg is superb!

@alexanderthegod9553 7 лет назад

does the GTI have automatic blips when you downshifts or are you making the car blip?

@CarObsession 7 лет назад

I prefer the interior styling of the GTI but I don't think I could ever own a GTI knowing that the R is in existence.

@ruipedroraimundo1921 7 лет назад

Hi Shmee, great video as usual! I love the GTI, but is is better than the mini JCW?

@mhmg511 7 лет назад

Correct me If I'm wrong but I thought the Mk7 GTI with red callipers meant it had the optional performance pack fitted therefore boosting it to 230PS?

@lambolad7804 7 лет назад

Shmee would you think of testing the 2016 astra vxr as affordable sports car like the Golf's?

@lf8761 7 лет назад

do you have the gti and r with a dsg gearbox in England 🤔

@dantonchat71 7 лет назад

iwould have loved to hear your thoughts on the r against your RS ! nice video though!

@alexjewell9674 7 лет назад

Finally shmee reviews the car I have the 2016 MK7 GTI with permofrmance package

@jrnascimento1448 7 лет назад

If possible, show us the engine as well. It's nice to see the heart of the cars:)

@SG-wj2qj 6 лет назад

Canadian here, GTI base is 30k. Comes well equipped but missing a few nice things. Spec wise to match the R you'd need the Autobahn package. Which is 35k.... Now the Golf R costs 43K. So that's 8K more for 80hp & AWD. Is it really worth it? No.... The GTI is pretty damn good. However Resale value is good with the GTI is great but it's extremely good with the R....with that being said if AWD isn't much of desire and a bit more punch is all you want, an simple $500 flash tune and you've got the same power as a R (remember the GTI is about 150lbs lighter than the R)

@GUITARTIME2024 5 лет назад

Tuning kills warranty.

@minibus1351 7 лет назад

"from the word go"

@Shmee150 7 лет назад

One of my favourite phrases

@mikehuynh5822 7 лет назад

Hi Tim, really appreciate the review. Won't ever afford a car like in your portfolio especially since the costs of maintaining and insurance and driving far outweighs everyday economy. The GTI will be my future car of choice. It's solid, well-laid interior composition and handles well in many reviews produced. Many say it's interior is far too conservative but it's German and functionality is important.

@SuperDigitalMe 7 лет назад

Why not the R vs gti clubsport? They share the same engine

@dallasmellsop5488 4 года назад

They all share the same engine it's just that the golf r and clubsport have forged rods and a bigger turbo I think

@aguitusaguitus 7 лет назад

What about checking the Seat León Cupra with 290 HP? Nice video btw

@pps076reviews2 4 года назад

What are they both like around town and on the motor way?

@aurelien.bvideos494 7 лет назад

The Golf 7R is nice but for the sound it can't beat the R32 in fact I own one since 2 years and the sound is just magical .

@solen1849 6 лет назад

Loved the review up to the end, no details on your decision? More driving more fun is why you choose the r?

@TommyT_ 7 лет назад

I honestly prefer the GTI clubsport. How do you record the audio on these btw?

@f83nch94 7 лет назад

Driving around Newport Pagnell I see! Thought I recognised the bridge under the M1! ☺

@smith9808 7 лет назад

Has anyone got a 66 plate golf r I just got my new one and got the sat nav as standard don't know if it's a mistake or they have just upgraded them.

@adamandersson9663 7 лет назад

£13188 gets you an R, £12857 gets you a GTI for 3 years, kind of a nobrainer.

@tedubadu2536 7 лет назад

Adam Andersson that would be a high spec GTI versus low spec R though.

@pooop592 7 лет назад

but after that your 13k down and no car.

@pooop592 7 лет назад

Richard Evans i get where your coming from but doing the numbers in my head, i doubt your gonna save any money going either way, this lease plan/ buy outright/ finance and give back either way your still gonna lose 13ish grand over 3 years, so you might as well own the car after that time.

@pooop592 7 лет назад

Richard Evans thats just a rough estimate.

@adamandersson9663 7 лет назад

Yeah its probably down to personal preference. Me and my girlfriend leases a new Vovlo v40 t5 carbon ed and we only pay roughly £160 each, each month. Wouldn't lease if it was my own and only car, then I rather own :).

@GJCanave 7 лет назад

how did it come from the word GO if there was not a single moment where GO was mentioned

@thedoodl38ug 7 лет назад

Nice to see Newport Pagnell and surrounding area in a video.

@Ersy90 7 лет назад

getting my new mk7 gti in the next 3 days, im so happy

@dudenikas 7 лет назад

How do you compare to the Golf GTI Clubsport S?

@shaheerahmed9766 7 лет назад

Shmee what car on your list do you want to purchase the most? Just curious

@Crankshaft1994 7 лет назад

happy diwali Shmee !!

@amandipbudhraja1341 7 лет назад

Guys im going to live in uk or Birmingham atm i live in the netherlands But in looking for a car in the uk Can u give me some tips before buying a car there and what do u mean with plate numbers?

@ivan37200 7 лет назад

I have a GTI and I love the thing. It is amazing, I was also able to get a unique configuration due to the fact it was originally supposed to be a show room car, so I have the tartan finish for the back seats with black leather in the back. As well as a modified turbo

@South4153 7 лет назад

ivan37200 whats modified about your snail?

@justinlarice2696 7 лет назад

My dad has a mk7 gti tuned by apr and it has 336 hp. It's actually pretty fast. Lots of fun to drive. I take it out too from time to time. Fun car

@SerialDriver 7 лет назад

R "brand" doesn't only exist since mk6... but since mk4 (R32, also on mk 5)

@thepardons123 6 лет назад

Serial Driver The R32’s are a whole different thing to the R’s

@koltonnadermann4652 5 лет назад

@@thepardons123 how? both haldex

@thepardons123 5 лет назад

Kolton Nadermann The R32’s have 3.2 litre N/A V6’s where as the R’s have 2.0 Turbo In-line 4 engines

@koltonnadermann4652 5 лет назад

@@thepardons123 I should've known that.

@robertjdm 7 лет назад

I'd have the Golf R! In fact, I'd have the Golf R over the Focus RS.

@rbx211 5 лет назад

it's great isn't it?! practicality and performance

@barbsy1176 7 лет назад

Got the golf r such a nice car with great sounds

@toadscrote123321 7 лет назад

There's not much visually to distinguish the R from a lot of the other cars in the range. It's almost identical in looks to a GTD, and is a crazy price for a hatch. That said, I see about 50 of them a day out and about so people seem to have the money to throw around.

@rbx211 5 лет назад

I see more GTIs here than Rs. More like 20-1. My coworker has a GTI and didn't even know that the R existed

@rlsedition 6 лет назад

The price difference between the GTI and R models in the US is much greater than the 3000 pounds you talked about. How about an almost $14,000 difference!

@rbx211 5 лет назад

it's worth it though

@4GuitarTrance 3 года назад

@@rbx211 If money for a hatch is no object and easy to come by, sure. Otherwise... MEH!

@abz.Ibrahim 4 года назад

Anyone know the brand of that watch Tim is wearing?

@milinddixit6583 7 лет назад

Was a tough choice for me back in June. Ended up with the R - made more sense. Especially as they both come with the same standard kit but the GTI really needs the performance pack (bigger brakes, 10HP and I think a better diff) where the R has all of that as standard plus more HP and 4WD.

@weirdkerr 7 лет назад

I looked at a golf (though not the GTI or R ) before I went for the Seat Leon FR EcoTsi 150 and to have the golf your looking at nearly 3 grand more for the same spec as the FR 3 dr I have.... and the PCP deal i have gone for wasn't available on a golf.....

@verothacamaro 7 лет назад

What watch are you wearing in this?

@richardbromley14 7 лет назад

I'm currently leasing an R, over 2 years it works out just under 7k. That's pretty good value, a lot less than the Gti.

@eeooKKK 7 лет назад

Finally cars for normal people...

@Shmee150 7 лет назад

This is the second video following the Mini Cooper JCW, and it won't be the last! Of course I hope you also enjoy the content with my Focus RS and classic Mini too.

@davidmontgomery8285 6 лет назад

Good vid what watch are you wearing

@bennel7067 7 лет назад

Shmee! I have one question:what cars are on your list

@Andruccio 7 лет назад

i got the perfomance version of the GTI with 230 PS and an electronical locking differential at the front wheels! great car :)

@nielsny310 7 лет назад

Could you review the Audi A3 sportback 2017?

@TomesEsq 7 лет назад

Have a '16 GTI Autobahn w/ Performance Package (6-speed manual). Almost got a Golf R, but REALLY glad I went with the GTI instead. In America, you can't get a sunroof with the Golf R, and that was a dealbreaker for me. I prefer the less weight that you get with no AWD system, and the mechanical LSD with the Performance Package is awesome.

@nullusfactor 7 лет назад

Hey Shmee! Awesome video as usual! 2 questions: How long does it take for you to set up the cameras? How much time does it take you to edit a video like this? Keep up these awesome videos. Warm regards from Lisbon!

@Shmee150 7 лет назад

Cameras aren't too long because I have a pretty good idea nowadays of what I want to do; all in the whole filming is around 5-6 hours (plus travelling each way which in this case was 1.5hrs both ways). Editing is then a couple more hours, maybe 2-3 before waiting for the render and upload.

@nullusfactor 7 лет назад

Shmee150 Thanks!

@BigShotLDN 2 года назад

Had a gti PP over a year. Great daily. The R would be a better buy if you want to drag race the car or want to mod to big power because of the 4wd.

@19MKA19 7 лет назад

I love Golf. My first car was a Golf 4

@bepsiguy 7 лет назад

dodge charger rt road and track or Golf R is more fun to drive?

@DarrenJMHughes 7 лет назад

That was a nice comparable video between the two VW Golfs - GTi and R. There are some really nice driving roads around the outskirts of MK and towards Northampton/Bedfordshire. I personally, would have the GTi over the R. I have a MK5 GTi I prefer the GTI branding over the R. Don't get me wrong, the R is a lovely car, I just prefer the GTi.

@simonh5768 5 лет назад

Daz, have you driven both? If so, didn't you think the lower set seat in the R felt better or the 19' wheels felt firmer or the stupid turbo wheel spin in the GTI made it feel like something was going to break. You also put your foot down in the R I bet and it took off with total control. I drove the GTI for week then my R 7.5 was back from warranty gearbox DSG issue and fyi the R was worth every cent more.

@adamtaylor5677 7 лет назад

golf r completely different beast. much superior in pace and handling capabilities in all conditions due to drivetrain. Sound better from stock and as an overall look in my opinion, much more purposeful.

@4GuitarTrance 3 года назад

But for a "hatch", are the extra funds really worth it? In the US the "R", price wise, is outrageous IMO. But once again, that's just me.

@Zoolookuk 7 лет назад

Nice vid, it's tough to do these comparisons but keep it up. Some things I'd mention (and I am in the US so might be slightly different here) but might be good for viewers to know. Most of the GTI models have a sunroof (or moonroof as VW say) whereas the R does't. It's pretty nice and big, and I really love it on my GTI. Also the performance pack GTI comes with bigger breaks (with the GTI logo on them), a bit more power and a front limited slip differential which takes away all of the torque steer you might get on the base model. Very handy if you tune the car later! As someone who has the Nav, there is no way I'd spend £800 on it (or $1000) given that CarPlay or Android Auto give you much better options. One thing I thought you were going to point out right at the end is the cargo space. In the GTI you get that second shelf you pointed out, and room for the spare. In the Golf R, that shelf doesn't exist and there is no spare, because the Haldex system takes up the space. So... yes the R is the better car overall especially for performance, but you sacrifice some day to day luxuries like the extra boot space and the moonroof plus about 4mpg. If you're adventurous, a tune can easily get you to 300bhp so the only advantage to the R is the 4WD, which is not even true AWD like you get in the Audis.

@blann65 7 лет назад

Both great cars but could u maybe have a look at either the Peugeot RCZ R or the Nissan 370Z Nismo. The golf reminds me of the top gear episode where they each buy a classic hot hatch and enjoy doing a series of challenges.