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W123 300D R134 AC Conversion 

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There is no comprehensive video that shows how to convert a classic diesel Mercedes to R134. Watch and learn ;)

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@jamesonobrien1496
@jamesonobrien1496 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the video! I’m about to attempt this on my 82 300cd. It will most likely take longer than 8 hours to do this job, but you’ve definitely given me the confidence to give it a shot. Keep up the great videos!
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay 3 месяца назад
You've got this it's not that difficult now that you know how!
@Mercmad
@Mercmad Год назад
We had to convert to R134a almost 30 years ago here in Australia so unless a car has been locked away forever ,it will be a conversion already . Thankfully the aircon on a W123 is simple (but not the hated push button A/C) .Now we are being allowed to use the 123 gas ,as a drop in replacement. (note: i said 'allowed',this is socialist Australia where we are told how to live) .Also interesting to see the hose running in front of the crank pulley. All of the RHD W123's with the OM 617 here have a steel pipe running behind the pulley with a rubber hose on each end. if it needs replacing ,,it turns into a major job to get at it.
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
That's very interesting. Yeah I'm really disappointed in the direction the Australian government has headed. It's definitely going down the socialist Road. That really stinks because historically Australia has not been like that.
@livium2002
@livium2002 Год назад
Yet another awesome video! Your channel deserves a lot more credit for its quality content. Congrats !
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
Thank you I appreciate the kind words
@timfetner8029
@timfetner8029 Год назад
Great work on the R134 conversion John. I know it takes a lot of time and effort but the results really are worth it!! Got some tools delivered today so I’m planning to tackle the door latch inserts tomorrow. Wish me luck.
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
Awesome good luck Tim you should be able to handle it no problem!
@joehurba9897
@joehurba9897 Год назад
I remember reading the early merc compressors were nicknamed grenades, My 83 has a Harrison or something like that, I believe they were manufactured by G.M. Do you think that the 134A conversion will cool better than the original R12? , we all know 40 year old technology has greatly improved. Your camera work and close ups are amazing, its great you include all the packaging and detailed info. One day I will tackle this project, I don't drive mine on long trips anymore, 50 miles on way are the norm. Great work! really
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
Forty-year-old technology is actually way better than the stuff we're using today. The old R12 systems have Superior cooling. People give the compressors a hard time but there's really nothing wrong with them they last many years. They only cost 200 bucks to replace one and its really easy so it's not really that big a deal. If the r134 system is healthy and it's charged correctly it will work absolutely fine I have driven many r134 converted cars and even in the deep South here in Georgia they work fine. But if you want that few extra degrees of cooling you stay with the R12 system.
@grizzladams
@grizzladams 4 месяца назад
@@woodsandbarclay Curious why you would convert it then? What are the benefits other than availability of refrigerant?
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay 4 месяца назад
I replaced all the AC components so I just went ahead and did the conversion so I could show everybody how to do it. R134 will work fine if you do it right. But yes R12 is about 5 to 7 degrees colder.
@delacruzcalvin
@delacruzcalvin 4 месяца назад
Love your vids man! Love seeing the journey on all your vids from all around car guy, to w123 expert. Quick question on the final order of recharging: 1. 2oz of oil through the high side port with engine off 2. Turn on engine 3. 1 can of r134 through the low side 4. 2 oz of oil through low side 5. Another can of r134 6. Last 2oz of oil 7. Last can of r134… Am I getting that right?
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay 4 месяца назад
Yeah that process will work. You don't have to do it exactly that way you can crank up the car and inject a couple of ounces through the low pressure port then put in all your r134 and then put in a few more ounces. I just did it this particular way in the video because the system was under vacuum and that makes it easy to suck in a couple ounces through the high pressure port.
@delacruzcalvin
@delacruzcalvin 3 месяца назад
Thanks for your help! AC on my ‘83 240d is blowing nice and cold, just in time for summer. I pretty much followed your video to a tee, it was super helpful.
@calebvessey4289
@calebvessey4289 Месяц назад
Thanks for video, question do you have a parts list?
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Месяц назад
Just shoot me an email directly and I'll send you over a parts list. John@woodsandbarclay.com
@danchekan1055
@danchekan1055 Год назад
Hey John, Great detailed video! Also thanks for the advise on the phone some weeks ago recommending Alex for injectors! I have an '83 and new to me a few months ago and would really like to get the AC going. The OEM compressor is disconnected and locked up. Do the AC Delco or Four Seasons compressors only last 5 years? I here there is another compressor (Sanden?) but looks like big bucks! For all the labor, I may just keep the car home on really hot days, ha! Let me know your thoughts about why the compressors don't last.
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
The AC systems in these cars always have to be serviced every decade. Four seasons is total junk never use any of their stuff I've had good luck with AC Delco. Delco was who did the original ones. Don't use the sanden it wasn't designed for this car and requires a custom bracket and the bracket will bend from what I've heard.
@Seagrams
@Seagrams Год назад
Thanks for the video, really clears up a lot of mysteries with ac systems. One question I have is, it seems you are adding oil slowly in between fills of refrigerant. Is there a reason you do it that way as opposed to filling all the oil at the beginning all at once?
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
You could probably add all the oil at the beginning. Just a personal preference I liked to blend in slowly together with the refrigerant so that the AC actually kicks on and engages. The AC will not turn on and engage unless refrigerant is in the system.
@kuldipdhak7972
@kuldipdhak7972 Год назад
You done good job
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
Thank you ;)
@dirkkelly9596
@dirkkelly9596 Год назад
Covered all the bases should be fine for a long time 👍👍
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
I've been tested out driving it for 2 days now AC is great. They usually last about 5 years or so before having to change the compressors again or recharge the system again. That's five years of daily driving.
@ronnymb67
@ronnymb67 Год назад
My 123 was converted properly. Whoever did my 126 before I bought it, should have their tools confiscated. Lunched the compressor a few months after I got it. The sludge that came out of the system when I flushed it looked like a mixture of graphite and motor oil. I think I spent a couple of hours flushing the system alone.
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
Yeah that's a common step that people will skip is flushing the system. The old compressors May is still appear to be spinning and working fine but the internal guts of them will be coming apart and send a bunch of little ground up metal flakes into the system and that will wreak havoc on your new compressor. You have to flush the system to flush all that gunk out of there before installing new components.
@boriska93
@boriska93 Год назад
John, is it possible to install AC system on Mercedes W123, if the car has factory basic configuration?
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
Man anything's possible with enough time money and patience I'm sure you could figure it out 😉
@hassanmalik8943
@hassanmalik8943 4 месяца назад
Hello can you please tell me whats the quantity of r134 gas in that w123 Done a r134 conversion put around 600grams of gas butt not that cooling enough don’t know about the right quantity Mine is m102 petrol
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay 4 месяца назад
The 123 takes three 12 oz cans of r134. If your system is completely dry then you need to add around 5 to 6 oz of oil.
@user-kl6eh4bk7j
@user-kl6eh4bk7j Год назад
How do I find how many oz of oil to put in? And what type of oil? Esther 100? or .. PAG 46?
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
If you're using r134 it's PAG 150 oil. Ester oil is compatible with R12 and R134. The system takes around 6 oz of oil if it's been completely evacuated.
@razmigtanashian
@razmigtanashian Год назад
Is the new compressor installed dry without any oil? The system(including the compressor) is oiled strictly by the injections?
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
No I did not show the oil injection. Oil was injected into the system. I didn't capture that on video.
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
It's important that you inject the oil and do not crank the engine with a dry compressor.
@razmigtanashian
@razmigtanashian Год назад
@@woodsandbarclay how many oil injections do you typically do prior to starting the car? Thanks for the help.
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
@@razmigtanashian depending on your situation it's going to be different but the factory system calls for around 6 oz of oil on a completely dry system.
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
@@razmigtanashian however if you haven't completely flush out your system there's going to be residual oil already in there so you're not going to need to inject the full 6 oz.
@oldtimer8411
@oldtimer8411 Год назад
A vacuum test is not the same as a pressure test because applying vacuum can seal an o-ring that could otherwise leak under pressure. So why did you choose not to do a pressure test with nitrogen or other inert gas? I am assuming you had a good reason, such as confidence that all your o-rings were brand new, etc., and I know many other accomplished mechanics who don't bother with nitrogen pressure tests. What is your thinking on doing a nitrogen pressure test?
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
90% of the time if your vacuum test is good then the system is sealed. Not really necessary to go through the trouble of doing a nitrogen pressure test like you're talking about. I've never seen a classic Mercedes shop do that and it's really a waste of effort. None of us do it that way. We all use vacuum test.
@IKPROD
@IKPROD Год назад
19:36 What's happened with old valve?
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
It's just sitting here on my bench. Just a good idea to go ahead and replace it when you're doing an AC conversion.
@FearlessAmateur
@FearlessAmateur Год назад
Dude.
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
Yo
@FearlessAmateur
@FearlessAmateur Год назад
@@woodsandbarclay I've been waiting years for this. Nice job. I'm confident I could do the same on my '84 300D, but finding all the correct parts is daunting. Did you have to source them all yourself?
@woodsandbarclay
@woodsandbarclay Год назад
@@FearlessAmateur Yes I source all parts. You can set up accounts with Parts authority, worldpac or SFF if you are a business. If not a business use FCP Euro, AutohausAZ or Dealership. Not really many parts when you're doing an AC system Compressor Dryer Orings Compressor Seals Expansion Valve
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