England lock Wade Dooley hits Wales number 8 Phil Davies hard with a violent right hand from behind that forces him off the field with a broken jaw during the 5 Nations match in March 1987 at Cardiff Arms Park.
@@stephenreeds3632 can you read? I said Davies punched Hall, then Dooley punched Davies. Surely you can read? As I actually said Davies threw a punch. What exactly are you talking about.
@@coniferclose. It’s to see people like you get salty over the same type of thing you’re all crowing about here ( just a game, got what he deserved, man’s game etc, etc ). Chopper was simply making a comment whereby an Englishman got knocked out, and you came along dutifully.
Reminds me of the brilliant dry wit that Chilcott dished out to Dai Young who was just starting out and decided to act the big man. After one scrum encounter Chilcott looked him square in the face and said "do that again and you'll live up to your name".
This Match was the first time in many years when England decided we aren't going to turn the other cheek and was the bedrock of England's success in the coming seasons, they weren't a great team then but there had been an attitude shift which eventually resulted in England becoming the best team in the Northern Hemisphere for some years.
@@brymorian In that game yes because they weren't very good however they got better and started beating most other teams like fucking Wales regularly, in fact they didn't just beat the Welsh regularly they fucking smashed them Taffy .
played against big Wade in a Tens tourney in HK circa 94/95. Couldn't help himself, even there.... He laid out two of our blokes with similar shots. Wouldn't enjoy being arrested by him....
@@hitop2365 The so called tough guys of today wouldn’t last five minutes with him in his era. What’s your point. He was also a test playing lion by the way, big Wade could play a bit and was a superb line out operator
A definitive cheapshot from Davies and he got what he deserved. Wade was the hardest man who ever played rugby for England. He would have walked into the ABs.
Described as the most naturally violent man in world rugby by his understudy, Dooley did not endear himself to me as a sportsman to respect but a giant of a thug.
Haha, good ole PC Dooley. Wouldn’t want him nickin me for Drunk & Disorderly...I think I’d get as far as th Drunk part before Dooley came in with the disorderly bit.😂😂😂🤘
@@gordion1 I’m not sure he was in the team for his legitimate rugbying talents though was he? From what I remember of that era, watching it with my dad, my old man listed 5 or 6 other lock forwards who were far more skilful than he, but weren’t capable of doing half the enforcing job that England needed doing. He was one of the best in the world at what he did...can’t knock him for that. But then I’m only vaguely remembering that era😂👍
@@gazjohn7885, I agree, and I am not so nieve to believe that the most successful teams had forwards who could be mistaken for ballerinas. I recall an incident when England was playing and within a maul one of the opposition was head and shoulders above others with his arms pinned and Dooley punched him. Obviously, tactics like this are in the unwritten rule book to weaken the opposition, I just thought he could have killed someone so defenceless.
That England team were were full of thugs and the three serving policemen in it, Dooley, Ackford and Richards, were always in the thick of any foul play
In those days violence and intimidation were part of the game. In fact, it was Norster who barged Dooley out of the lineout and Dooley smashed Davies...
I see that now that you point it out. Back when getting sent off and cited and suspended meant your income increased since you didn't have to miss so much work.
In those days Dooley could do what he wanted because he was English and a police officer. David Bishop punches someone and is sentenced to a year in prison. The influence of the RFU throughout the top level of society stinks
The RFU came down hard on its players that day. Four were suspended - Dawe, Gareth Chilcot, Richard Hill and Dooley.Dooley waited 8 years for his next cap.
I played club rugby in that era. No TV, no impartial linesman and amateur referees. Rucking was not only permissible, it was obligatory (but try and miss the head if you can). I was mainly loose head and so had one arm free for the punch - usually on their put in as the ref was the other side. It was a case of get your revenge in first. Was it great rugby? Was it a game that youngsters would want to play? Was it ever going to be great TV? No, but it was fun at times. Always forgotten the minute the match ended. Compulsory to buy the guys you’ve punched a pint. Unfortunately, I got bought more pints than I bought others.
Clearly explains the attitude and continuing attitude of the Police in the UK 🇬🇧 at that time and continuing for some years. The officers like Dooley thought they were above the law.
No sure what the fuss was all about. England had been being beaten up by Wales for years. Phil Davies took the first swing anyway, Dooley was reacting to that. That was how it was sometimes back then.
This is where VAR comes into its own. In today's game, yellow for Hall and reds for Davies and Dooley. Thank you very much. Problem solved. Back in the '80s, though, it was a zoo.
Correction, John Hall started it with his neck pull on Moriarty. Tulip was just an idle passer by until he was accosted by the very Reverend PC Wade Dooley
everyone talking about dooley like he was some sort of legendary hero hard man and by far the hadest man on the park that day- instead he was just a thuggish copper - moriarty would have annihilated him in a straight pagger without question
Ahhhhh, some good old fashioned footie!! Big boy that Wade Dooley.......a broken jaw couldn't stop Phil Davies from talking really fast. Get a look at an interview with him......a stenographer would have trouble keeping up!!
Biggest thug in an English team littered with them. Saw him on street corner in Blackpool when he was on duty, couple of big lads having a scuffle and he turned and sided off around corner. Rel tough g. uy
A few years later, in a Calcutta Cup match a very young Doddie Weir was taking the English lineout apart (perfectly fairly) so that utter thug, Dooley, blindsided him and struck him from behind, perforating his ear drum. Dooley was a cowardly thug. A disgrace of a player whose antics would probably have got him banned sine die nowadays.
Dooley was just a thug. There were 'hard' players who weren't mere thugs. Mickey Skinner for example but Dooley was just a thug and in the case of the assault on Weir an utter coward as well. He wouldn't take Weir on face to face so sneaked up and attacked him from behind.
mickey skinner did a lot of off the ball stuff in his day, so did doddy weir. If you watch the highlights of this game you will see the great Jonathan Davies of bbc fame elbow rob Andrew in the face off the ball. It was just the game. If you don't like it go watch footballers roll around on the floor for hours over a little trip.
one of the best days in english rugby, it was the catalyst for the success in the 90's and ultimately the 03 world cup, but the credit must go to richard hill
Looked like Dooley thumbed him in the eye more than anything. Kind of a joke, a fella named Dooley in an England shirt. That said Scotland have Huw Jones in the lineup these days. Might as well have Ieuan "Taff" Wynn-Jones-Evans-Isnit singing Flower of Scotland.
I just watched it over an over an over and the best i can make out is the number 8 shirt throwing a punch then next thing you know number 8 is rolling round in the mud. By the looks of it he got as good as he give
England were finally fed up with getting stuffed in Cardiff every 2 years (and at Twickenham to be honest) and the niggle started early in this game. Nothing really changed until that dreadful RWC quarter final in `87, but the English team at least were beginning to stand up for themselves. Wales on the other hand really had nothing but niggle to offer at this time, and for many years to come, so that really set the scene for this game.
If the Welsh in 60s 70s 80s had concentrated on playing the ball instead of man then they would have won alot more, not all of them of corse , running into opposition then collapsing, hersey pulling, just played footy would have done better. Benny, ,all their halfbacks beautiful passes, Grav great player , Clive Rees great winger,just if your forwards going do the dark arts do it probably
If I remember correctly after repeatedly being beaten in Cardiff did England not decide to deliberately take this uncompromising approach? Of course it didn’t work.
Wales were desperate not to lose to England at home and were at least as culpable (probably rather more so) for the violence in this game. England banned 4 players - Wales didn;t ban any.
I never rated Dooley as a player he was just there to play the thug and he had excellent credentials being a copper at the time. This particular incident was totally disproportionate
