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Wagner Finds Only Antique Weapons In Ukraine's Underground Weapons Cache 

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At the beginning of May 2023, Russian media shared a flurry of videos from salt mines near Soledar. The videos showcased a captured weapons storage depot said to be inside part of the mine complex which was recently captured by Russian private military contractor unit Wagner. In this video we'll look at the videos to see what weapon systems were captured at the depot. The weapons largely appear to be damaged or obsolescent.
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@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Год назад
Edit: 3:20 the stocks are for SKS not Mosins, I missed the cutout above the trigger guard and sling loop. Thanks for watching, here's the accompanying article - armourersbench.com/2023/05/21/what-weapons-did-wagner-capture-in-the-soledar-mines/
@midknight9327
@midknight9327 Год назад
Pin this
@democracyforall
@democracyforall Год назад
the wagner boss said in the video that most weapons were delivered to soviat union by USA during 2nd world war to fight Nazi germany.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Год назад
Yes, a portion of it, like the Thompsons, is Lend-Lease materiel.
@wakeupcanadians
@wakeupcanadians Год назад
fool you are this is old news weeks weeks old
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 Год назад
l think by hearing your voice i think you are the guy i see on Mooch's channel ?....So i just Sub'ed to your channel...Thanks very much..... Shoe🇺🇸....Never forget Air America....
@chriskortan1530
@chriskortan1530 Год назад
No one wanted crates of brand new Thompsons? He didn't contact me !
@marcusott2973
@marcusott2973 Год назад
I wanted to say the same, but then I thought of the legal ramifications of buying trophy guns off a sanctioned war criminal. 😅
@cantsneedgaming4591
@cantsneedgaming4591 Год назад
​@Marcus Ott who cares!?
@jjjr.1186
@jjjr.1186 Год назад
@@marcusott2973 no worse than fast and furious.
@jjjr.1186
@jjjr.1186 Год назад
@@marcusott2973 no worse than fast and furious.
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 Год назад
Collector market in Europe would buy them. Can't import them into the US though, because....reasons.
@deanrobinson4129
@deanrobinson4129 Год назад
Those crates of Thompson with original paperwork is unreal part of history
@caroltenge5147
@caroltenge5147 Год назад
worth more money than a patriot missile...
@devil5cry
@devil5cry Год назад
@@caroltenge5147 not NFA item well at least not in pre sample decease the vale
@shareurtube
@shareurtube Год назад
Just how the hell did they make it to the salt mine and who did they buy them from?
@deanrobinson4129
@deanrobinson4129 Год назад
@@shareurtube given as part of lend lease by USA in ww2, how they ended up not being used I don't know
@klubberzvonhatzenbuhl563
@klubberzvonhatzenbuhl563 Год назад
@@deanrobinson4129 - 9mm and makarov rounds were more plentiful in Russia during WWII.
@moredistractions
@moredistractions Год назад
A sheriff's department here in America still had a Thompson submachinegun in their inventory which they had bought in the 1930s. They recently sold it at auction for $90,000. Those crates of Tommy guns are literal treasure chests.
@БелыйВолк-с4б
@БелыйВолк-с4б Год назад
всем все равно на это подобие оружия никому оно даже даром не сдалось
@Gangster88232
@Gangster88232 Год назад
Old trash. Melt it for rebars.
@jamroast
@jamroast Год назад
$150k+ usd.
@GiuseppeSimonetti
@GiuseppeSimonetti Год назад
​@@Gangster88232Why would you melt something worth money into scrap?
@RoofKoreanInTheWild
@RoofKoreanInTheWild Год назад
Only problem is getting them into America to sell as the importation of machine guns was banned. anywhere else in the world they aren't worth as much, a original WW2 full auto Thompson in places like New Zealand are only worth $2500-5000 depending on condition and history of course
@jefferynelson
@jefferynelson Год назад
4:55 it never occurred to me that large stockpiles of Thompson submachine guns still existed anywhere
@youboob91
@youboob91 Год назад
To the best of my knowledge America exported a load to Russia and the uk during WW2
@zoiders
@zoiders Год назад
They got sent to lots of places. The problem has always been ammunition. Hence them being left behind as you can't even convert to other calibres.
@NineSeptims
@NineSeptims Год назад
​@@zoidersa shame. Soviet weapons are the opposite tho they are still in use.
@zoiders
@zoiders Год назад
@@NineSeptims The Thompson was effectively a victim of a format war much like VHS/Betamax. Most SMGs can quite easily be converted to 9mm Para, 9mm Largo, 7.65 Luger, 7.63 Mauser, 7.62x25 etc etc. Not so the Thompson.
@xthee_0nly_1x11
@xthee_0nly_1x11 Год назад
Lend Lease Act
@trevorsutherland5263
@trevorsutherland5263 Год назад
Those Thompsons would be worth their weight in gold here in the US to collectors. Maxim guns?? Over 100 years old and in pristine shape?? After the war the whole mine should be turned into a museum. Tourists from all over would pay to see all that perfectly preserved history.
@MrSwccguy
@MrSwccguy Год назад
Depending on the dates yes
@ArnoSchmidt70
@ArnoSchmidt70 Год назад
Without the right paperwork they aren't worth anything anywhere. And the right paperwork means "registered pre 1986 in the US". Do you have a time machine?
@jamesramirez85
@jamesramirez85 Год назад
​@@ArnoSchmidt70 technically they were manufactured BEFORE 1986 in the US and then sent abroad, maybe, MAYBE they are legally importable and salable as trasnferable machineguns
@nadjiguemarful
@nadjiguemarful Год назад
Thats what I was thinking! The condition they're in is amazing. They're walking through a History Museum with the most prestine condition things ever lol..
@commiesnzombies
@commiesnzombies Год назад
and now the russians have their grubby dick beaters on them...shame
@jlsaz
@jlsaz Год назад
I worked with that facility back in the 90's. They had 5,000 new Colt 1911A1's that Waffen Frankonia bought. They have thousands of P38's, Lugers, Mausers, as well as other equipment from WWII, including Indian, Harley Davidson and German WWII motorcycles. They also have tons of other WWII vehicles and according to the documentation I received, several ME-262 jets.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Год назад
Wow. I imagined that there would be more than we've seen. It surprises me there haven't been more photos.
@RobertBosley-wh9tl
@RobertBosley-wh9tl Год назад
I can't even afford to shoot..the peoples time and money stole from them for such absurdity s we cant enjoy or use sad..such controlled waste
@cdt996
@cdt996 Год назад
No V2 rockets? Bummer
@ΑλέξανδροςΧουιαζης
Vehicles and jets!? Its not a really known place I wish there was a video exploring the whole mine
@badcornflakes6374
@badcornflakes6374 Год назад
Wow, hoarders
@davep5227
@davep5227 Год назад
That's not a salt mine, that's a Gold Mine!
@davidgalea6113
@davidgalea6113 Год назад
It's a waste of beautiful weaponry and a waste of taxpayer funds...impressive but a bit sad really.
@chianghighshrek
@chianghighshrek Год назад
​@@davidgalea6113 ummmmm okay we have like a 400000 thousand in stock piles probably
@williammcgaffigan9961
@williammcgaffigan9961 Год назад
@@chianghighshrek bro said “probably “ smh
@chianghighshrek
@chianghighshrek Год назад
@@williammcgaffigan9961 oh they made 1.5 million during the war and there are still Thompson's being made even today
@UAVet2022
@UAVet2022 Год назад
​@@williammcgaffigan9961 you do understand that this is equipment sold to russia before the soviet union collapsed?
@chost-059
@chost-059 Год назад
These cold war era dooms day bunkers are absolutely mind blowing, the amount of equipment held inside them is insane
@JL-tm3rc
@JL-tm3rc Год назад
I guess an artillery shell bunker would be larger
@DerDrecksack87
@DerDrecksack87 Год назад
Yeah, you havent seen anything. The UdSSR were extremely paranoid about being invaded as ww2 thought them a hard lesson about not having enough gear at the ready, these bunkers & dry saltmines are extremely numerous all throughout eastern europe, most being long since empty (mostly because the new govt sold it) or they have been filled up with concrete/made inaccessible. But even when i was a child we had atleast two in working condition filled with who knows what to the brim with constant guarding by the army one of them being right in the center of our town & the other a few miles away. But to be fair, i bet most of the stuff is rotted away by now, a salt mine is perfect because of the lack of moisture, but the big concrete ones above ground were compromised for sure. We even had an urban legend that several mountains were hollowed out as bunkers & long time storage vehicle depots with hundreds of new tanks as rapid response in case NATO invades. I could bet my meal today that the russians still hamster that way, they know satellites can see what they have & bet they have a humongous amout of stuff sealed away in case they get invaded, but who knows.
@ItsCrap97
@ItsCrap97 Год назад
Think the US has some forgotten ones in abandoned bases active in the Cold War?
@ItsCrap97
@ItsCrap97 Год назад
Someone contact Russia!!! Don’t fuck up those guns!! They are History
@JL-tm3rc
@JL-tm3rc Год назад
@@ItsCrap97 if you have artillery shells you can have it
@willmartin7293
@willmartin7293 Год назад
As a weapons enthusiast, this video was making my heart melt. Brand new Thompsons and Maxims in their original factory crates!!! What a treasure they have over there, and they don't have any appreciation of it! What a waste!!!
@penclaw
@penclaw Год назад
Maybe they seen something more impressive?
@bobigny9345
@bobigny9345 8 месяцев назад
You want them to wear white gloves?!
@willmartin7293
@willmartin7293 8 месяцев назад
The answer is "yes," because these rare, valuable weapons have probably been in their original factory packaging since they left the factory floor.@@bobigny9345
@willmartin7293
@willmartin7293 8 месяцев назад
Undoubtedly, modern weapons are more accurate and plentiful, but these Thompsons and Maxims are worth far more to arms collectors than their modern counterparts by a factor of ten or more.@@penclaw
@lastswordfighter
@lastswordfighter 7 месяцев назад
The Maxims are in enough numbers that both the Russians and Ukranians are still actively using them.
@onlinebills9169
@onlinebills9169 Год назад
Owning a Thompson here in the US is not only nearly impossible, but it would also cost a fortune. And these guys have CRATES of brand-new shipments sitting there for 80 years!
@MysticalJessica
@MysticalJessica Год назад
Sadly there's lots of things that are nearly impossible in the US that in other countries aren't!
@Sombre____
@Sombre____ Год назад
I don't understand why Ukraine didn't sold them on the market already. They could buy modern weapons with the money.
@marcelo497
@marcelo497 Год назад
These old guns are all over the world. Here in Brazil the police ocasionally find guns from pre WW1 with drug cartels. Most conflicts in developing countries use guns from WW2 and Cold War
@alexeydyfort545
@alexeydyfort545 Год назад
The FDA is corrupt af unfortunately
@ibrahimaamir5554
@ibrahimaamir5554 Год назад
they could literally have sold those to collectors and bought modern weapons and ammo. I'm sure there must be people willing to pay astronomical money just too get one of these old guns
@undercoverhustler37
@undercoverhustler37 Год назад
Up until 2014 ukraine was the worlds premier surplus firearm dealer. My SKS, Mosin, tokarev pistol and SVT40 rifle all came from ukraine. paid under $300 Canadian for each one.
@LSOP-
@LSOP- Год назад
They are freezing the acceptance of registrations and will also not allow the transfer sale or donation of handguns at this time. Of note this does not effect pre 1998 handguns or collectors. Also: - Handguns were used in 59 per cent of violent crime involving firearms between 2009 and 2020, and there are 70 per cent more handguns in Canada today than in 2010. -There were over 3,500 reported thefts of firearms in 2018. -One in three women and girls killed by an abuser is murdered with a gun.
@SimpleHuman-ug8fk
@SimpleHuman-ug8fk Год назад
​@@LSOP-are you proposing to ban weapons for the civilians? In my country, when there was a complete ban, murder weapons still occurred... Only they didn't kill with firearms, but with axes, knives and pokers. Human violence cannot be stopped in any way
@usertom1967
@usertom1967 Год назад
Ukraine sold off all the wealth they inherited from USSR, the government is so corrupt
@skeletonkey6733
@skeletonkey6733 Год назад
@@ColinMor-fj3qc Kohat District of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. It has gained fame and notoriety for its bazaars packed with gunsmiths and weapons merchants. They can make anything
@wyattpeterson6286
@wyattpeterson6286 Год назад
You lucky man.
@katana2665
@katana2665 Год назад
Absolutely incredible. Maxims in brand new condition. Thompson's by the crate. Millions of dollars worth of black market, collector grade, weapons.
@Shot_Gunner
@Shot_Gunner Год назад
Damn that’s a mouth watering supply of usable hardware. As a gunsmith I’d be in literal heaven!! 😂
@DefiantNX74205
@DefiantNX74205 Год назад
Now Imagine being the fellas who worked with all that !
@orzorzelski1142
@orzorzelski1142 Год назад
I think I can hear Brandon Herrera salivating.
@dewboy910
@dewboy910 Год назад
Yeah, me too. And if my brother was still alive, he would have been hugging the screen!
@bibekjung7404
@bibekjung7404 Год назад
KAVEEER ALMIGHTY GOD 🙏+🙏+🙏
@DerDrecksack87
@DerDrecksack87 Год назад
​@@DefiantNX74205i think constant bombing takes the fun out of working with it, especially when you have to be evacuated because the russian frontline is moving fast towards you, like these guys who probably had to leave in a hurry judging by all the unfinished work. But maybe they could zen out by doing what they like, who knows.
@artiomvv569
@artiomvv569 Год назад
Those brand new Thompsons are such a sight for a collectors eyes . They can fetch a hefty price, up to 40-80 grand. How can anyone not be interested in those Thompsons. It's insane.
@tashigyaltsen472
@tashigyaltsen472 Год назад
Dont worry wagner had already made deal in black market
@artiomvv569
@artiomvv569 Год назад
@@tashigyaltsen472 one of them Tommies would sure look good behind a glass case on someone's wall.
@tashigyaltsen472
@tashigyaltsen472 Год назад
@@artiomvv569 sure
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 Год назад
Worthless in the United States because they can't be registered.
@HDSME
@HDSME Год назад
Not that. U have but alot
@ifcdirector
@ifcdirector Год назад
The Thompsons were included with the tanks that we sent to the Soviets in WWII but they didn’t have any ammo for them so they just put them in storage.
@enormhi
@enormhi Год назад
That's pretty wild, just thousands and thousands of 'Forgotten Weapons'
@mcbrite
@mcbrite Год назад
They were never forgotten... Bout sold them to make his millions...
@hunters36forgingwoodworkin73
@@mcbrite someone didn’t get the joke
@pilotmanpaul
@pilotmanpaul Год назад
Don't summon Gun Jesus now
@josephmontanaro2350
@josephmontanaro2350 Год назад
the best way for Ukraine to take it back would be to say there's stocks of .32 French Longe in there, it's like the US with oil/WMDs, say they are there and he will come :D
@SuperErikRoss
@SuperErikRoss Год назад
And in comes Ian 🙂
@scottwilson9676
@scottwilson9676 Год назад
These old Soviet sites are all over Ukraine and the rest of Eastern Europe. Built to withstand nuke strikes, very impressive structures.
@shoeby9273
@shoeby9273 Год назад
I think the gem of it is the lend lease stuff with all the paperwork. Probably wont find a lot of that.
@emilynelson5985
@emilynelson5985 Год назад
Then why aren’t we giving them .45 acp? Thompsons have a wonderful reputation as a service weapon.
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 Год назад
​​​@@emilynelson5985 dont be insane. Sub mgs became obsolete 70 years ago. Especially ones which weigh more than a carbine and cost a fortune. You want to be in a trench struggling to find ammo for 3 magazines full with a gun thats useless beyond a few metres/against basic armour and weighs more than a dead cow?? great collectors items or last ditch weapons only, which is why they were there probably
@opairsoft8100
@opairsoft8100 Год назад
@@emilynelson5985 the ergonomics are absolutely dogshit, hell I would take a bolt action over a Thompson 99% of the time just do to how ungodly the selector and stock placement is.
@jeffmcewen1238
@jeffmcewen1238 Год назад
@@opairsoft8100 A Lee Enfield and lots of mags
@kenibnanak5554
@kenibnanak5554 Год назад
As a US based weapons collector I can only dream of a whole crate of early WW2 vintage M1928 Thompsons NIB still wrapped in oil paper. Even the crate of M1 Thompsons is probably worth a million dollars (also the crate of (pretty) Maxim guns. I am amazed no one thought to get them out of the mines before Ukraine pulled back and sell them to Western collectors. Just recently I saw someone on a different site whining bout not finding good condition, original, Mosin stocks. There they are. LoL
@jamallabarge2665
@jamallabarge2665 Год назад
" I am amazed no one thought to get them out of the mines before Ukraine pulled back and sell them to Western collectors. " Joe Biden would have cut off their military aid... then bragged about it on TV. Joe doesn't like arming the proles... now his kid can use dope and buy a handgun, but he's a Biden.
@cdt996
@cdt996 Год назад
They’re only worth that because of the NFA which limits the supply of them. While I’m sure they would still be valuable, if these among other non registry guns could be sold, the prices would plummet.
@jamallabarge2665
@jamallabarge2665 Год назад
@@cdt996 "They’re only worth that because of the NFA which limits the supply of them. " The goal of Hughes Rangel was to "poison pill" the Firearm Owners Protection Act. Instead those two dullards ruined the prospect of anyone trusting a Federal Gun Registry. Why register something so that it is frozen, the owners taxed to death or saddled with expensive crap? The gun control lobby has become a money making institution. This is why it never wins much. It relies upon people to "overcome reaction" but cheats them because of a continous stream of donations.
@nooboftheyear7170
@nooboftheyear7170 Год назад
They turned out to be sks sticks anyway it seems.
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Месяц назад
To be fair, if there weren't any import regulations, they wouldn't be worth a million dollars for very long
@Chiller01
@Chiller01 Год назад
Oh my god. Collectors are sending dark web messages to Prigozhin as we speak.
@Addi_Teacha509
@Addi_Teacha509 Год назад
😂, even Putin
@Santucho999
@Santucho999 Год назад
this will fuel the war effort for a couple of months lol
@SergyMilitaryRankings
@SergyMilitaryRankings Год назад
​@@Santucho999 nah, weapons are too old.
@ryanward8039
@ryanward8039 Год назад
I would definitely be one if I had access. LOL
@michaeldenesyk3195
@michaeldenesyk3195 Год назад
The Thompsons must be worth their weight in gold!
@davep5227
@davep5227 Год назад
How about those water cooled machine guns! Yummy, this place is a Gold Mine!
@mcbrite
@mcbrite Год назад
@@davep5227 *salt mine... ^^
@BKrol-dr4gi
@BKrol-dr4gi Год назад
@@mcbrite gun mine?😉
@zoiders
@zoiders Год назад
Only on the US market. Surplus has not much more than scrap value in the rest of world.
@geroutathat
@geroutathat Год назад
@@zoiders Even in the US this amount put on the market would make the market for them collapse. They sell one a day/week to a collector in the US for like 300-400 bucks instead of dumping the whole lot on the market for a buck each.
@atlasguns11
@atlasguns11 Год назад
Unironically more valuable than the modern small arms they could've found.
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 8 месяцев назад
Not really, on much of the euro civil market semi converted tompsons and PPSHs are worth less than a off the shelf AR
@ratscoot
@ratscoot Год назад
About 15 years ago WW2 lend lease weapons arrived from Ukraine in the Eu. You could buy an unissued Thompson M1 for 500€ or a 1928 for 650€. PPSH 41 and 43 were around 250€, a Maxim on wheel carriage was 1000€.
@Chiller01
@Chiller01 Год назад
That’s really interesting. For a weapon with a fallacious operating system the Thompson would have been an excellent WW1 weapon.
@johngreen-sk4yk
@johngreen-sk4yk Год назад
I remember Ryton arms had a big stash of ukraine ww2 /cold war warehouse stuff , everything from German 98k mausers to mint condition sks carbines , most of it extremely cheap, collectors in the UK won't see bargain deac deals like that again ! Sigh 😕
@pablo-xf3jb
@pablo-xf3jb Год назад
@@johngreen-sk4yk same state side
@markthompson8656
@markthompson8656 Год назад
I want one of the THOMPSON'S
@ratscoot
@ratscoot Год назад
@@johngreen-sk4yk Indeed, bought a lot of these guns. Tokarev SVT40, Tokarev TT33, Makarov, brand new unissued 1948 dated SKS with laminate stock. 1895 Nagant revolver. Supply has dried up over the years and have doubled or tripled on those guns.
@thomas_jay
@thomas_jay Год назад
There are probably lots of collectors in the USA who would give tons of money for some of the older guns.
@barrybb5409
@barrybb5409 Год назад
There are about150k atf agents that would shoot you to prevent you from owning them.
@xJDMWaRRi0Rx
@xJDMWaRRi0Rx Год назад
Not probably, definitely. The problem is they legally can’t own them let alone import them from a war zone that the US is actively fighting and sanctioning against.
@duc696monster6
@duc696monster6 Год назад
And now the us is giving then tons and tons of money just to keep Bidens secret ..
@scar3xcr0
@scar3xcr0 Год назад
Ukraine should sell most of its antique firearms caches to collectors and use the money to buy modern weapons. They could probably get a couple of modern equivalents for each rare but outdated weapon. Mosins aren't worth that much but those tommy guns must be work bank, too bad Wagner has them and you know they will engage in corporate looting
@therealgaben5527
@therealgaben5527 Год назад
@Quin and?
@rufiorufioo
@rufiorufioo Год назад
Those Thompsons are actually worth a lot. Incredible weapon. Expensive to make. Expensive now.
@Swindle1984
@Swindle1984 Год назад
Worth a lot to who? They're worthless in the US due to the 1986 ban on registering machine guns. Anything that wasn't registered by July of 1986 is illegal for civilians to own. At best, these guns would be cut up into pieces and imported as parts kits without barrels, as per ATF regulations. As combat weapons, they're horribly obsolete. Heavy, not especially reliable, and they use ammunition that is next to impossible to find in most of the world and not standard issue in any military or police department, even in the US. .45 ACP, while popular with civilians in America, is incredibly rare elsewhere and is actually illegal to own in many countries in Europe and South America because civilians are banned from owning any caliber used by police or a military, past or present. It's illegal to own a machine gun in most countries, and in the ones where nobody cares (mainly African and Middle Eastern hellholes) they still wouldn't be worth anything because they can get AK-47's for the price of a live chicken, and those they can actually find magazines and ammo for.
@wahtx7717
@wahtx7717 Год назад
​@@Swindle1984 bc people just want to flex
@corneliusmcmuffin3256
@corneliusmcmuffin3256 Год назад
@@Swindle1984 Collectors would pay thousands for one in a good condition, I cannot fathom why Ukraine did not sell them before now, they could get some very expensive military equipment for the price, yea the Thomson is basically useless, it only might be effective at CQC and even then, But none of that matters for collectors who have a lot of money and want a iconic piece of history.
@Swindle1984
@Swindle1984 Год назад
@@corneliusmcmuffin3256 But collectors can't legally own them. If you can't sell them to anyone, they're worthless.
@tommyvercetti2424
@tommyvercetti2424 3 месяца назад
@@Swindle1984it’s still a machine gun with a decent caliber, yes compared to others it’s not the best but it can still do a lot of damage. you’re stupid
@VanzerPanzer
@VanzerPanzer Год назад
Damn, these might be the last pristine vintage guns
@eminence_
@eminence_ Год назад
There are hundreds of thousands more
@123456qwful
@123456qwful Год назад
Their prombly more depot just like this throguht out the former soviet countries so their apt more out their
@owllymannstein7113
@owllymannstein7113 Год назад
It is a safe bet that every developed country on the planet has similar facilities.
@VanzerPanzer
@VanzerPanzer Год назад
@@owllymannstein7113 but conditions of maintenance might be worse. I made a pretty bold claim overall tho, yeah
@owllymannstein7113
@owllymannstein7113 Год назад
@@VanzerPanzer You might be surprised. In 1945 when Japan's general issue rifle had devolved to abysmal quality manufacture they still had stores of pristine pre-war rifles they were saving for the US invasion of the home islands.
@EuroS50
@EuroS50 Год назад
I think a lot of people need to keep in mind - this is ONE such depot. There's TONS of them all over not only Ukraine but Eastern Europe.
@Pentazemin44
@Pentazemin44 Год назад
just imagine amount of ak variants stocked all over europe, mind blowing
@marcelogonzalez8547
@marcelogonzalez8547 Год назад
Reminds me of Lynch's Dune, when Sitlgar says "Greater than treasure, Usul. We have thousands of such caches, and only a few of us know them all."
@ClaudeMagicbox
@ClaudeMagicbox Год назад
Yeah... most people don't know how heavily stockpiled the Soviet Union was I've done business with Russians and went around a bit, they told me the West doesn't even imagine the size of the ex Soviet stockpiles of anything war related, they told me that in remote parts of the Urals there are literally artificial LAKES of millions of gallons of diesel and kherosene, enough to fuel thousands and thousands of tanks, planes and military vehicles for at least a century
@AlexMilenk
@AlexMilenk Год назад
@@ClaudeMagicbox last autumn Russian artillery has used shells made 1971.
@williamkunte5361
@williamkunte5361 Год назад
​@@AlexMilenk 😮
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 Год назад
Those Maxims are still viable weapons for fixed locations. Dependant on ammunition supplies or the ability to convert. Museums would take them in a heartbeat.
@gwydionrusso3206
@gwydionrusso3206 Год назад
If I understand correctly those are 7.62x54R caliber the caliber is still very common in Russia and around the world it’s been used from the late 1800s in the early Mosin-Nagant till now it’s used in everything from the old Mosin-Nagant PKM machine gun and Dragunov marksman rifle
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 Год назад
@@gwydionrusso3206 I think you are correct. It should be easy to check. If it reigned supreme in WWI/WWII, cutting down massed infantry attacks. There is no reason why it can't be effective today in a true sustained fire role. I suppose training the gun team would be the difficult bit. Not many veterans from that era left. Incidentally, my grandfather who died in the early 1980's. Fought during the last year of WWI and again in WWII. Firstly as a private in the MG Corps, as part of the crew for the Vickers Maxim. (That's why it caught my eye and why I commented.)
@SwedishEmpire1700
@SwedishEmpire1700 6 месяцев назад
@@gusgone4527 Bro, they are a tool, tools can be learned with training like any other tool.
@jamesdc9595
@jamesdc9595 Год назад
Anyone have Prigozhin’s number? Those belong in collectors’ hands and museums, not rotting away in a Ukrainian mine.
@alanxu3936
@alanxu3936 Год назад
Indiana Jones moment.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography Год назад
@@alanxu3936 That should have been the new Indiana Jones movie, not the self insert fan fiction that Phoebe Waller Bridge cooked up.
@Spudtron98
@Spudtron98 Год назад
I'd rather have Prigozhin's current location and a cruise missile.
@jamesdc9595
@jamesdc9595 Год назад
@@Spudtron98 cringe
@thegamiac9539
@thegamiac9539 Год назад
@@Spudtron98 goof ball
@peterwilson5528
@peterwilson5528 Год назад
Those weapons like the Thompsons are priceless for collectors. It is a goldmine for collectors.
@brendanoneil3489
@brendanoneil3489 Год назад
I wonder what will happen to their values when collector's realise there's probably tens of thousands unused and still in their original war packing. I guess mass produced war finish not really top collector's items?
@jamallabarge2665
@jamallabarge2665 Год назад
@@brendanoneil3489 The challenge is getting them into the US. Just shipping them in a plain crate would get them siezed and trashed.
@FumblsTheSniper
@FumblsTheSniper Год назад
Loved growing up in a rural town where there was absolutely 10,000 ar patterned rifles and ammunition locked up underneath a national guard depot in the middle of town. Who even knows what else was in there. The underground part is underneath a elementary school and above ground building is fifty yards from the cafeteria lol.
@Sean--
@Sean-- Год назад
the massive gallery of crates is insane to see i wonder how much more interesting weapons were carried away when they left
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Год назад
There could be anything down there. The videos show so little really.
@BLACKxOPxPRExTARGET
@BLACKxOPxPRExTARGET Год назад
@@TheArmourersBench Russian sarcasm is lost on westerner's. He teased the Thompsons M1928 original models. these are priceless in factory condition
@ИльяЧендемеров
Оттуда вынесли 90% содержимого. Осталось 10% , а может и меньше. В начале распродавали, а потом вывезли всё чем можно воевать
@edwardsallow6518
@edwardsallow6518 Год назад
@@ИльяЧендемеров I wonder who they sold them to or if they just moved them to a different wear house in Russia
@МегафонМегафон-в3я
@МегафонМегафон-в3я 8 месяцев назад
​@@edwardsallow6518 Он имел ввиду что 90 процентов вывезли за время существования Украины, ибо они продали все что можно. Но оставшиеся 10 процентов это десятки тысяч стволов и миллионы патронов.
@beepbeeep9343
@beepbeeep9343 Год назад
i wish i could have all of that for myself
@DNS-Freakz
@DNS-Freakz Год назад
Agreed
@murmenaattori6
@murmenaattori6 Год назад
We all do.
@gmarie701
@gmarie701 Год назад
Start a new PMC and just go get them before they are gone. A piece of pie...💂‍♂
@thegamiac9539
@thegamiac9539 Год назад
Join wagner for a stash of those now I mean adding these as trophies in payment will sure pump their recruit numbers
@carloko08
@carloko08 Год назад
HAHAHAHAH, don't be greedy, man, I want all that for myself too, what do we do? hahaha, let's share all that with all our good bellicose brothers better, beers and whores I invite them XD
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Месяц назад
A thompson in such good condition, literally never fired, could easily be worth $150,000
@charliemclegend4885
@charliemclegend4885 Год назад
I saw this video on telegram where Russian war journalist interviews Wagner fighter in this mine. Now i don't speak Russian, but a related language. And i think i understood that the number of Thompsons held in that mine is around 23 000 guns. The number of PPSh is around 300 000 guns. Ukrainians carried out most of modern weapons and almost all of the ammunition.
@Stephen85
@Stephen85 Год назад
Just imagine what they took with them, this is just the stuff they left.
@spongebob7296
@spongebob7296 Год назад
@@Stephen85 It was all theirs for the taking.
@catharineblore7302
@catharineblore7302 Год назад
If the Thompsons are chambered in 0.45 ACP, the PPSh in 7,62 x 25 and the Maxims in 7,62 x 54R the Ucranians did well to leave them behind.
@aaronlopez492
@aaronlopez492 Год назад
That Thompson's got my attention!😮
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Год назад
Same!
@Yankeepride03
@Yankeepride03 Год назад
😮 Those Thompsons are worth a lot of 💰
@aaronlopez492
@aaronlopez492 Год назад
​@@Yankeepride03Last time a used Thompson's was sold it went for $90,000 used. But the dealer tells me that the bidding on in the crate oiled Thompson's would start at approximately 150 to 300 k. That is a literal gold mine.
@mcbrite
@mcbrite Год назад
@@aaronlopez492 No, it's a literal salt mine and a figurative gold mine... Speakz!
@Erpyrikk
@Erpyrikk Год назад
@@aaronlopez492 no, as someone mentioned these thompson's were for sale at about 500 to 650 on the European market. the only reason machine guns are so valuable in the US is because the machinegun registry is closed.
@galesams4205
@galesams4205 Год назад
The arms caches we found in vietnam always had THOMPSON MACHINE GUNS in 45 apc and were found on some VC soldiers. Mostly they used AK-47, Molson nagant, SKS, and B-40 rocket. 4th div. recon 1969.
@whakatu4life285
@whakatu4life285 Год назад
@@henrydevree8382 Nup, shouldnt have been there to start with. F for Failed
@henrydevree8382
@henrydevree8382 Год назад
@@whakatu4life285 don't hate the player, hate the game dude. He just did his job
@whakatu4life285
@whakatu4life285 Год назад
​@@henrydevree8382 Not hating the player at all, just the BS "thanks for your service" type crap that comes out of the US when the US shouldn't be meddling in other countries issues, nothing to congratulate someone for when civilians die, shame the US only felt that sort of thing when the towers came down, US has killed 100s of thousands of civilians in the illegal wars and invasions over the years so yeah F for Failed in Vietnam and same gonna be the result in Ukraine. US needs to wake up it ain't all it thinks it is and the majority of the rest of the world is sick of its BS warmongering, dictatorial ways. No wonder the US armed forces are struggling for man power, seems lots of the younger ones have woken up to the BS corporate controlled Govt there.
@atatterson6992
@atatterson6992 Год назад
@@whakatu4life285 no, F for Fucc Off and Dye
@moredistractions
@moredistractions 8 месяцев назад
That's so weird that a Canadian beer company got into the rifle business. I guess diversification is key.
@runelokas-zm1bs
@runelokas-zm1bs Год назад
The WW2 mint condition guns are a incredible find!!!
@nkristianschmidt
@nkristianschmidt Год назад
Prigoshin is about to throw out a fortune
@dantheshredder1973
@dantheshredder1973 9 месяцев назад
​@@nkristianschmidtYeah about that...
@koganinja100
@koganinja100 Год назад
I’m sure plenty of collectors around the world would be interested, I hope these historical weapons are not destroyed. Great video. All the best from down under. Lewis Sydney Australia
@DerDrecksack87
@DerDrecksack87 Год назад
Don't worry mate, i doubt they go out of their way to destroy them, they either sell it inside russia for cheap or just let it in the salt mine, wich probably would be best, in those conditions these beauties have atleast another 40 years to look shiny.
@pauliecopez2683
@pauliecopez2683 Год назад
So freakin cool. The mine has no humidity. No rust.
@ejharbord5966
@ejharbord5966 Год назад
if these were imported into the USA right now the barrels and receivers would be torch cut in several places. our government sucks
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 Год назад
So this is as close to heaven as one can find. An "infinite" number of guns to fix, assemble, and shoot with a neverending mountain of ammo. That is just amazing.
@SuperErikRoss
@SuperErikRoss Год назад
Yup gun heaven !!!!
@Stephen85
@Stephen85 Год назад
Yeah except for the whole war thing going on.
@SuperErikRoss
@SuperErikRoss Год назад
@@Stephen85 uh yea that whole thing hopefully it will be over soon
@rsuriyop
@rsuriyop Год назад
It would be even better if they were able to find the much more advanced modern weapons that NATO has been supplying Ukraine with.
@TacticalTerry
@TacticalTerry Год назад
​​@@rsuriyopIf you listen to the video, the Ukrainians took those with them when they left the mine.
@perspectiveflip
@perspectiveflip Год назад
Wow tens of thousands of brand new WW2 guns? This stuff must be worth multi if not hundreds of millions... What an incredible treasure!
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 8 месяцев назад
Not really, WW2 MGs are valuable in the US because we are not allowed to import anymore of them. In euro countrys that allow semi auto conversions guns like those tompsons might be worth 1k each or so, possibly 2k for the maxims, really not particularly valuable to go to much effort
@snooks5607
@snooks5607 8 месяцев назад
@@therideneverends1697 probably half that if this stockpile ever flooded the market
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Месяц назад
Not really. It's simple supply and demand. In the US a original WW2 thompson is worth 10s of thousands because demand is extremely high and the supply is extremely low
@yeugeniuss
@yeugeniuss Год назад
May I come with a truck there? I can help to clean the facility for free.
@ianpatrick6034
@ianpatrick6034 Год назад
Here in the US a class 3 mint Tommy gun like those are worth roughly 35k-45k and they have dozens, if not hundreds of them in just that location
@MrCantStopTheRobot
@MrCantStopTheRobot Год назад
Keep Ian far away; once inside, he might never return.
@johnrambo5436
@johnrambo5436 Год назад
Down the rabbit hole.
@mr.unknown5353
@mr.unknown5353 Год назад
For some more info on this mine in Paraskoviivka , this is the Kuzminovsky Mine/Volodarsky Mine No. 1/Artyomsol Mine No. 8. It was opened in 1911 as the Kuzminovsky Mine. After the Russian Revolution it was renamed Volodarsky Mine No. 1 after the Marxist revolutionary and Soviet politician V. Volodarsky. On March 1st, 2019 Artyomsol renamed the mine the Artyomsol Mine No. 8. After the mine fell into Russian hands mid-late February, I was curious how long it would be before we got pictures and videos from inside the mine.
@jabonorte
@jabonorte Год назад
Shows the scale of lend lease that they still have whole crates of Thompson's. Not surprised that they were kept in storage - doesn't look like they had a space problem in there
@orzorzelski1142
@orzorzelski1142 Год назад
Mr Prigozhin, please don't let the antiques rot. Historical pieces like maxims and thompsons could be sold for a fair price. For this invaluable piece of business advice, an AK-74 with 10 spare magazines and 3000 rounds would be very appreciated. Yours sincerely, Orz Orzelski. Well, at least I tried!
@carloko08
@carloko08 Год назад
hahahah, dont worry dude, who know mr Prigozhin will know about your polite letter to him and he make an offer to you ;)
@NeostormXLMAX
@NeostormXLMAX Год назад
He wants to sell them actually
@carloko08
@carloko08 Год назад
@@NeostormXLMAX wooo really? where you saw that?
@Pentazemin44
@Pentazemin44 Год назад
oh yeah? and where is he going to sell them lol? like for real it would be transported to russia and disappear forever
@Journey_to_who_knows
@Journey_to_who_knows Год назад
You’ll have plenty of chances to appreciate it in ww3
@ritterbruder212
@ritterbruder212 Год назад
Quick correction: those are SKS, not Mosin stocks, at 3:20.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Год назад
You're right, my mistake, I missed the inlet above the trigger guard. Thanks for watching.
@AlASokolov
@AlASokolov Год назад
​@@TheArmourersBench just Mosin, not Mosin-Nagant. Or call the rifle Springfield M1903 Mauser-Springfield.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Год назад
Well I'm sure Mauser would have liked that haha.
@AlASokolov
@AlASokolov Год назад
@@TheArmourersBench He was so angry when he found out that the Americans had stolen the design of his rifle that he sued and won it. Мosin did not steal anything, he took only the clip from the Nagant, the design of the feeder. Nagant borrowed the design of the feeder from another designer. In turn, Nagant borrowed a lot of things from Mosin, and then patented it, that is, in fact, stole it. He is a thief, and you insert his name into the name of the rifle. Given the history of the creation of the Springfield M1903, it looks very symbolic, thieves cover the thief.
@DK-gy7ll
@DK-gy7ll Год назад
Imagine going into a deep cave, and in one corner you find piles of ancient plundered Aztec gold... and in the other corner you see crates of NIB WW2-era Thompsons. Which one would you take? 😁
@frankwood7878
@frankwood7878 Год назад
Take both piles
@jessicaregina1956
@jessicaregina1956 3 месяца назад
The gold. Durr. Its kinda hard to sell thompsons. Something something batf.
@centercannothold
@centercannothold 26 дней назад
@@jessicaregina1956 Depend on where you are. In a middle of a war zones like Ukraine, guns is worth more than gold. You can't eat gold, you can't hunt with gold, you can't defend yourself with gold. It's up to the time and place.
@Darwinist
@Darwinist Год назад
I wonder if there is something about salt mines that caused this location to be chosen as a long-term storage depot. Stable temps due to being deep underground, and it's probably really really dry down there.
@TheArmourersBench
@TheArmourersBench Год назад
Seems to be the reasoning. Thanks for watching
@benjamindover7399
@benjamindover7399 Год назад
The salt sucks every bit of humidity out of the air. As long as it's not touching salt, metal will last forever.
@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044
@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 Год назад
It is eerie to see the weapons then which apart from a proof firing have never been used
@InstructorRandy
@InstructorRandy Год назад
I just wish we could get our stuff back and buy it at cost.
@Vingul
@Vingul Год назад
That’s what you get for helping out communists at the expense of Europe.
@OrderoftheWarlocks
@OrderoftheWarlocks Год назад
I'll take a thompson
@StellarGryphon
@StellarGryphon Год назад
Would love to see some videos documenting the use of the older WW2 guns. I've seen pictures of people running around with Thompson's PPSH's, and I saw a video only yesterday of something running around with a MP-40, but apparently that one was a reproduction from some company in Ukraine
@sectero9450
@sectero9450 Год назад
Because they are no place for pistol caliber weapons in modern combat as main weapon. Only 7.62x54, 12.7x108 abd 14.5x114 guns were in active use, like DP-28/27/M , maxim guns, SG-43(replacement for maxim in Soviet army) , some ptrs, KPV(its 50s 14.5 machine gun) and of course DShK.
@Mortablunt
@Mortablunt Год назад
There’s been plenty of use in all the urban fighting and in the trench clearing.
@willong1000
@willong1000 Год назад
Several videos have surfaced of the Maxim guns in use against Russian invaders.
@TheJarric
@TheJarric Год назад
@@Mortablunt and as secondery for rpg and similar troopers
@carlospadilla4138
@carlospadilla4138 Год назад
Im sure, no, I hope, Prigozihn understands what they have found, and makes these antiques available for legal sale, to any and all private/civilian individuals interested in a purchase, and of course, at discounted prices.
@MartiUK_
@MartiUK_ Год назад
Those pristine maxims, stuck in a cave for decades 😢
@alexsanchez3635
@alexsanchez3635 7 месяцев назад
Aww Im Sad too😢
@RetroRetrieverSurplus
@RetroRetrieverSurplus 7 месяцев назад
Whoa a Thompson, I just posted a full auto one. Love these.
@Luiz-jv8lu
@Luiz-jv8lu Год назад
People forget, but the URSS had the largest army in human history. That's why there is so many storages like that in all ex-soviet states. And that's why Russia can still fight till this day with old weapons in some areas. Thair stock is HUGE and spread all over the place in bunkers.
@ИльяЧендемеров
Не во всех постсоветских республиках так. Украине достались крупнейшие запасы. Также много в Белоруссии. В общем с западной стороны, со стороны НАТО. В республиках средней Азии такого нет
@stanley1554
@stanley1554 Год назад
Those piles of crates of never used Thompson submachine guns are worth a fortune.
@JohnWaldron-cm7ce
@JohnWaldron-cm7ce Год назад
Whoa! Those Maxims and Thompsons are high dollar items worldwide!-John in Texas
@pilotmanpaul
@pilotmanpaul Год назад
Ukraine had one of the largest Black Market in all of Europe before the war. Its insane what antiques they have there and what equipment you won't find anymore they sell for dirt cheap prices.
@skeletonkey6733
@skeletonkey6733 Год назад
Kohat District of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. It has gained fame and notoriety for its bazaars packed with gunsmiths and weapons merchants.
@poes1314
@poes1314 Год назад
No it didn't
@spongebob7296
@spongebob7296 Год назад
Yes they even made a movie called Lord Of War about these weapons cashes and its a true story of Yuri Orlov a arms dealer that Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Yuri flies to Ukraine and illegally buys Soviet military hardware through his uncle, a former Soviet general who is overseeing the distribution of weapons to the newly-formed Ukrainian Army.
@poes1314
@poes1314 Год назад
@spongebob7296 it is based on viktor bout, and most weapons that are on the black market are straight from russia
@alexandercspmx7322
@alexandercspmx7322 Год назад
They still have the hugest black market selling American weapons to isis
@TerraRubicon
@TerraRubicon Год назад
On the U.S. market people would pay real money for vintage WW1 and WW2 guns.
@carloko08
@carloko08 Год назад
in everywhere, dude, not just in yankeeland
@cammobunker
@cammobunker Год назад
The Thompsons are worth exactly zero to us in the US. Not importable unless chopped to bits. We sent over 140,000 to the Soviets who didn't use them much, no ammo and not much need for them with PPSh 41 and PPs 43 on hand. Most went as tank and vehicle crew weapons, and were promptly put in storage and obviously left unused. They aren't going to get issued out to Russian or Ukrainian forces, not enough ammo or likely spare magazines either. Where they sit now, they are nothing more than high quality scrap metal.
@brianhowe1982
@brianhowe1982 Год назад
Man.. really wish they'd put those on the C&R market. Beautiful classic guns
@yelsew816
@yelsew816 Год назад
I would not be suprised, in light of Prigozhin's recent comments, to see these start to appear in Africa.
@123456qwful
@123456qwful Год назад
Africa, Latin America, and through out Asia, their enough to supply a nation armory for years
@mcbrite
@mcbrite Год назад
Yeah, because the rich Africans can afford crates of vintage Thompsons at 150.000-300.000 a pop to do their random killing in style! 🙄
@Akeem_768
@Akeem_768 Год назад
@@mcbrite thos guns only have value to american collectors, to the rest of the world it's just another tool for a purpose.
@rwps3677
@rwps3677 Год назад
@@mcbrite It's not like they pay Museum Quality prices, more likely they get sold by the Kilo.
@PaIaeoCIive1684
@PaIaeoCIive1684 Год назад
African warlords are getting plenty of better stuff (some western) from corrupt Ukrainian officials for over a year now.
@AlexAnder-dh8qz
@AlexAnder-dh8qz Год назад
Rust, scrapmetal and WW2 weapons without material base to repair and probably even without required supply of specific ammunition. Even russian mobilized forces wouldn't use this shit.
@paogene1288
@paogene1288 Год назад
Goodness, to have such a slice of that arsenal in my armory. Welp, a man can dream,and dreams are cheap.
@carloko08
@carloko08 Год назад
hahahah, everybody wnat that right now :D
@christinepearson5788
@christinepearson5788 Год назад
Too bad we can't send some of these WWII to someone who would appreciate them
@xXArnOdu974Xx
@xXArnOdu974Xx Год назад
If Wagner sell all of those weapons to collectionneurs, they might actually be able to afford an air force.
@lp9280
@lp9280 Год назад
One mans rubbish other mans treasure. For modern army all the Thomson's, PPSH, Maxims etc. are useless, or clearly excess amount of surplus AK/Mosin stocks... but for gunsmith working in that sort of area (Brandon Herrera comes to mind) this would be absolute goldmine. Even museums... I cannot imagine museums around the world would not be interested in absolutely brand new old stock Thomson's, PPSH, Maxims and similar weapons... surely not 10,000 of them, but couple of examples each... and there must be 100s of museums around the world.
@markthompson8656
@markthompson8656 Год назад
I would start a museum to get that collection!
@Stephen85
@Stephen85 Год назад
I am sure they have already be traded for potato vodka.
@lp9280
@lp9280 Год назад
@@Stephen85 I kind of doubt it. If they found any usable weapons then yes, but most of what wash shown were antique weapons for which you can't get ammo, can't use them anywhere etc. In piece time there would be people interested in them if not for utility then at least as collector piece, but in war time literally nobody are are interested. prigozhin is scum, but I do believe he is not lying here by saying "these are new weapons, I called everyone, nobody wants them"... because nobody wants them, not even for potato vodka.
@Stephen85
@Stephen85 Год назад
@@lp9280 good, I am glad they can't profit off of them.
@lp9280
@lp9280 Год назад
@@Stephen85 same... i hope Ukraine will be able to reclaim this catche and put it on the market once war ends.
@JaykPuten
@JaykPuten Год назад
I found this video very interesting Though sadly I know some Russian oligarchs world war 2 weaponry collection has just been completed Maybe after the war, there'll be a sudden influx of parts kits from Russia, or well Belarus or whatever country the US doesn't have sanctions on firearm adjacent imports(or however US law treats "parts kits") but a sudden influx of WW1/WW2/AK74 furniture to every market that purchases firearms or deactivated firearms and magazines from foreign countries
@ptbelttactics
@ptbelttactics Год назад
After the war, the newly formed countries from the collapsed Russian Federation will not all face the same sanctions. And, the lack of employment opportunities will cause the sudden influx of cheep mil surplus.
@KosherFinance
@KosherFinance Год назад
Give your money to Ukraine! Give more! Give it all!🇺🇦🙏❤️🇺🇸🏳️‍🌈
@geraldtrudeau3223
@geraldtrudeau3223 Год назад
That's not a weapons Depot, it's an arms Museum.
@christopherwang4392
@christopherwang4392 Год назад
Imagine a _Battlefield_ or _Call of Duty_ mission or map with an underground weapons cache filled with usable antique weapons and ammunition such as this one.
@Agent_Clark
@Agent_Clark Год назад
A battlefield map that is just tunnels filled with Soviet era weapons
@Grasyl
@Grasyl Год назад
5:27 Are those Thompson M1928? I think so, Thompson M1 and M1A2 does not have finned barrels ..
@BLACKxOPxPRExTARGET
@BLACKxOPxPRExTARGET Год назад
they are yes. he just teased them, he knows what he has.
@mcbrite
@mcbrite Год назад
Apparently those are the stocks that Victor Bout drew from throughout his career as an arms dealer?
@pilotmanpaul
@pilotmanpaul Год назад
Yup, many of his weapons came from Ukraine. As before the fall of the USSR. Ukraine was the Soviet Union's manufacturing heart. They made everything there from guns, to tanks, to jets and choppers and heck, even rocket parts and its all in the East. Near the Russian border in Donbass.
@mitchjames9350
@mitchjames9350 Год назад
The Syrian civil war both sides used WW2 weapons, not surprising there being used in this war.
@jeffjefferson2676
@jeffjefferson2676 Год назад
This is very interesting! These guns are worth a lot of money. A Thompson M1A1 sells for: , and a Thompson M1928 has an Estimated Price of: $18,000 - $27,500. Crates full of it, and it and you see the collectors value of these guns. Its millions upon millions of dollars worth of guns. the problem is to get them out safe, and then sell them on a market. But how to get them there? I know collectors go a long way to get guns in that good a condition. Maybe they would even buy them on the black market. Maybe sell them through the darkweb, get acquainted with people there, and make dope money to fund the war. I know Assad from Syria is reported to be well established in the synthetic drugs trade. So maybe they know how to get rid of guns too for the right price. I saw a video once of MP44 rifles in Syria, a whole shipping container full of old guns, guns worth a lot of money. From the right area, there are companies from America that even get guns from Eritrea. Italian Carcanos. If they would somehow find guns like these, of course they will pay. It would be a big shame to see good guns like these rot in mines... If i was Prigozhin, i would rechamber the MG08 machinegun in 7.62x54 Mosin (if they would not be in that caliber already), and just throw the guns into the fight. If you place machinegun posts in the right spot, they can sure cause mayhem. Especially if you put a scope/thermal on it. I just get wild when i see guns like that. Really excited about the find. At the very least i would just get some armorers, and have them fix and check guns, and have these send to the troops that go to the front. I bet the place is being looted right now by some officers. Have you seen the washing machines from the Kiev region and even HVAC systems being send home to Russia?? Man... Greetings, Jeff
@sandybennett_itsme
@sandybennett_itsme Год назад
Only Thompsons registered in the US prior to 1968 are worth that much. These could not be imported to the US without completely destroying the receiver and barrel. No new machineguns allowed to be made or transferred for the civilian population after 1986 here.
@jeffjefferson2676
@jeffjefferson2676 Год назад
@@sandybennett_itsme Well, on the black market these can sell. People are willing to pay top dollar if they have shopping bags full of money they dont know what to do with. On the other hand, poorer people are there too. You price may vary heavily if you are interested in selling everything quickly. Greetings, Jeff
@ИмператорСметаны
Это не MG08 , это Максим образца 1941 года он и так под 7,62*54 переделка ему не требуется.
@martkbanjoboy8853
@martkbanjoboy8853 Год назад
Thanks for posting. Imo engineering economy willdictate what happens to such a (rare) facility especially in an all out war. For example, it is clear the facility contents were stripped of high graded war materiel. Engineering economy again.
@MadeleineTakam
@MadeleineTakam Год назад
For anyone interested 24 Thompsons have already been shipped to The DRC, some will end up in République du Cameroun as I understand General Jacob Kodji’s daughter has bought some as gifts. My got my eye on a couple.
@briang4914
@briang4914 Год назад
From this batch? How do you know this?
@MadeleineTakam
@MadeleineTakam Год назад
I am African Women… we have access to information that is banned in “Western Countries” and Russia is not sanctioned in Africa. We trade absolutely everything with anyone. C’est la vie.
@AquaticGems
@AquaticGems 7 месяцев назад
​@@MadeleineTakamya you're full of shit
@trplankowner3323
@trplankowner3323 Год назад
If Prigozhin could sale those Thompsons, they'd bring him some good money. The thing is, Prigozhin is one of those "angry patriots" that keep denying that the USSR received any Lend Lease help.
@muhacnt7988
@muhacnt7988 Год назад
In ww2 the Ussr recieved american tanks too,they didnt use it because it was inferior to theirs,comlex machanism,and not rugged enough to serve in the eastern front
@cm275
@cm275 Год назад
@@muhacnt7988 Shermans had no issue killing T-34s in Korea so it wasn’t some super tank - the Germans destroyed them by the thousands, the Soviets just outproduced them.
@muhacnt7988
@muhacnt7988 Год назад
@@cm275 You have read too many westoid neo nazi propaganda.
@trplankowner3323
@trplankowner3323 Год назад
For those of you that don't know any better, the average T-34 didn't last long enough to use a full tank of fuel. The T-34 was utter garbage, like most Soviet tanks.
@JesterEric
@JesterEric Год назад
Unused lend lease aid was supposed to be returned, destroyed or paid for at the end of the war. I believe the USSR paid $722 million in 1971. Most of the debt was written off
@paulhudson6900
@paulhudson6900 Год назад
Friend few years back had a few crates with the Thomson's all for deactivation all welded up i nearly cried ,they came from that mine they have been flogging them for years
@nateone9588
@nateone9588 Год назад
I read once that the Thompsons came in crates like that and in the trucks and tanks we sent the Soviets. Problem apparently, was the availability of .45 acp which is why they were never utilizedm
@korbell1089
@korbell1089 Год назад
Give me 30 minutes alone in that mine and I would die a happy man!
@commiesnzombies
@commiesnzombies Год назад
i would stuff my pockets and socks with thompsons
@tavish4699
@tavish4699 Год назад
with all that hardware being assesed now i think i know why wagner is back in the game and doesnt complain about ammo shortages anymore
@ИльяЧендемеров
Он жаловался на нехватку артиллерийских снарядов.
@dondelchulia3189
@dondelchulia3189 Год назад
That crate of Thompsons is probably worth about a million USD
@FreedomsLife1776
@FreedomsLife1776 Год назад
It’s a real crime those Thompsons can’t be returned to the USA and sold privately.
@Addi_Teacha509
@Addi_Teacha509 Год назад
Let's keep the faith
@Ukraineaissance2014
@Ukraineaissance2014 Год назад
They will be. Russians are openly selling their uniforms and 'body armour' on western sites (ebay mostly)
@pauljmeyer1
@pauljmeyer1 Год назад
Sure! Pay Prigozhin and he'll have them sent to the USA at a bargain basement price, no worries.
@commiesnzombies
@commiesnzombies Год назад
@@pauljmeyer1 i would strangle prigozhin to death just to get 1 of those thompsons
@TheBauwssss
@TheBauwssss Год назад
@@pauljmeyer1 ...only for the ATF to confiscate 'em, after which they'll be forced to run each and every one of those beautiful, 100% pristine Thompsons through the shredder, with paperwork and all? 😢 Yeah nty bro, I think I'll pass. Those beautiful Thompson babies deserve so much better than a one way trip through the ATF shredder!!! 🥺😞
@izakvandermerwe346
@izakvandermerwe346 Год назад
You have a calm systematic way of presenting. Only a pleasure to listen to your presentation.
@janrendek
@janrendek Год назад
Those salt mines are now gold mines thanks to those Thompsons and Maxims
@andrew2353
@andrew2353 Год назад
Those Thompsons would make cool trophies, maybe Prigozhin could reward them like medals to Wagner veterans.
@ptbelttactics
@ptbelttactics Год назад
Most Wagner veterans get a free zinc crate as a reward.
Год назад
This is a fascinating story and piece of history. I hope some of those weapons will be preserved. Maybe the sale of them to our gun loving friends in the US could cover some reconstruction :)
@DerDrecksack87
@DerDrecksack87 Год назад
Imagine finding a mountain of all kinds of ww2 gems on your porch as a new way of psychological warfare by russians to piss of the anti gun leaning president in the US. Biden: Vladimir, did you just dump tons of guns across the US? Vladimir: Eh it fell off truck blyat! Biden: It is 2.000 trucks worth of cargo... Vladimir: ...yes .... Biden: I have to sniff on some refugee kids to calm down, but right after that we will have a serious talk mister!
@cammobunker
@cammobunker Год назад
So basically the Ukrainians took all the modern arms-AKs, etc., and except for a few odds and ends there for repair, what was left was 80+ year old stuff that, while historically cool, is roughly as useful as feet on fish. Tommy guns, PPsH 41 and PPs 43 are really cool but far from being cutting edge or even useful. There's likely little .45ACP ammo for the Thompsons, and might not be any magazines for them. I'm sure there are mags for the Soviet subguns, and ammo too, but these guns are completely obsolete. Just so much scrap. The SKS stocks will come in handy next winter as firewood.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Год назад
Basically.
@danielkanawyer2273
@danielkanawyer2273 Год назад
Makes sense why he wanted those mines so badly. Lots of cash in those crates.
@Recat6217
@Recat6217 Год назад
If Wagner Group needs more funding they could sell these pristine WW2 weapons to collectors in America if it could be sent cause many people including Museums would love to have these guns
@brankoarnus
@brankoarnus Год назад
This weapon belongs to Ukraine, which was stored during the time of the Soviet Union!❗🇺🇦🏫🛻🔫🔫🔪🔫 Of course these Wagner Nazi murderers with Prigožno will own it!❗👮‍♀👮‍♂🇷🇺🔫😏
@Stephen85
@Stephen85 Год назад
I imagine they have already traded them for vodka and cigarettes
@Recat6217
@Recat6217 Год назад
@@Stephen85 probably and their gear quality have been improving
@beelow84
@beelow84 Год назад
@@Stephen85yea, incompetent drunks right? Who somehow conquered a cache big enough to trigger a 3rd world skirmish. Makes you wonder what the other guys are drinking. Instant mashed potato vodka? Wake up brother.
@tavish4699
@tavish4699 Год назад
@@Recat6217 wagner has allways has good gear since its a private company where the guys buy their own shit
@funklelester8646
@funklelester8646 Год назад
It's good to know that even back then the government was giving away stuff that they wouldn't let civilians have.
@ednash4265
@ednash4265 Год назад
No one wants them! Blimey, I'll buy them! Another great video Matt.
@BLACKxOPxPRExTARGET
@BLACKxOPxPRExTARGET Год назад
Russian sarcasm is lost on westerner's. He teased the Thompsons M1928 original models. these are priceless in factory condition
@MrPotatochips4
@MrPotatochips4 Год назад
I guess that explains why so many men have died in the battles of Soledar and Bachmut. The fact that it wasn't sealed speaks volumes. I hope the documents found with the Thompsons are released. Probably arrived in Russia along with the P-39 Airocobras in 1943. Maybe not. Maybe later, or maybe captured and recaptured.
@AlASokolov
@AlASokolov Год назад
Probably major part Tommy-guns arrived with tanks and armored vehicles.
@ИльяЧендемеров
​@@AlASokolovправильно. Они точно входили в комплект поставки танка Шерман.
@ИмператорСметаны
Это опись осмотра , не документы . Да и зачем они вам ? Оружие оплачено СССР и у Украины нет никаких прав владеть им .
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 8 месяцев назад
@@ИмператорСметаны The weapons where given to the USSR, which then transfered them to Ukraine in the 70s. they are Ukranian property
@frankwood7878
@frankwood7878 Год назад
I'D TAKE A NEW THOMPSON MACHINE GUN ANY DAY
@ryanthede4689
@ryanthede4689 Год назад
3:19 these are actually SKS stocks
@hankrearden5460
@hankrearden5460 Год назад
Man thats a nice find 4:49 they look to be in great shape.
@CarverPete
@CarverPete Год назад
Yeah no rust whatsoever so no pitting the wood furniture looks superb too with no deterioration I'm guessing that the humidity of that salt mine plus the correct way they were stored helped no end , BTW that's a gold mine for collectors literally.
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