Wagon Tracks from the 1800's Still Exist! 

Thats awesome i live in new england so theyre way more common here but texas was settled very early by the spanish so you coukd prolly fibd even older ones...when we got my house we cleared the backyard and found an old track set down to the lake for carriages

How fascinating!

I hope as a builder you are also a preservationist. These treasures into our past can never be replaced .

I had a freind, dead now, but his in laws lived in what is a stagecoach stop in Spartanburg. SC. Their old store had a mill stone in it and we found old relics of shoes that the store sold. Ladies shoes that button up the side, men's as well.. That was in the early 80s. 1980s that is outside of Woodruff, SC.

Wish I could have used Antal detector around their homestead there. It's the old " WORKMAN " place between Spartanburg and Woodruff.

'Evolved'.

Yep

And they probably never complained how bad it sucked. You don't know, what you don't know.

I imagine someone asking an old pioneer how they got to California and they say, I walked.

@@alfandeddie It was like, 'Little House on the Prairie.' They set up camps along the way. They used their wagons as a home. Their wagons were FULL of food and clothes. Alot of times they walked along-side the wagons because the wagons were ruff and shaking. Model-T cars did the same thing.

Wow Interesting, that's a good point.

@@HAPPY_PHANTOM76 really just common sense

@@asmodeus1274 I think she was just making conversation and did not require your smartass comment! You are probably lacking in intelligence or "common sense".

I can’t even begin to imagine how many. The use of this trail goes clear back to at least the 1700’s when they were search for gold. It’s crazy.

I piss on those graves. They deserve nothing but my disrespect and urine.

It killed many, many people. We have no real idea.

@Cha Man I’m glad you gave yourself a thumbs up too

@Cha Man You're a real keyboard badass!

Especially if you were traveling from the east coast to the west coast. It wouldn't take you a few days...it would take you a few decades. And since the average life expectancy back then was around 40 years old, chances were pretty good that you'd die enroute.

@@centuryrox That was due to child mortality not adults dying early

I hope she is well.

I hope you guys are doing well specially your daughter

Sending lots of peace and positive energy to you and your daughter

May the good lord keep his hand on your daughter and you

In the name of Jesus you're baby girl is going to be good. God bless you and your family.

I remember learning about this in grade school

Right? I've lived in Colorado about 55 years and never knew about the trails

You can also find them in High rock canyon, northern Nevada.

Check Oregon trail ruts in wyoming

​@@swampdonkey1517 Yes, there's a great section of ruts on the Oregon trail in Guernsey, Wyoming!

Very cool.

Seeing how steep some of the paths were I was wondering. Thanks. Peace from Canada.

Wow, I have always wanted to see some of these trails. My travels have always been up and down the east coast but I'm determined to explore further West some day, God willing.

Donner pass?

@@Peepssqwik Carson Pass.

I may have been your airline pilot! I flew for Ozark Air Lines from 1978 to 1986. I used to make PA’s to the passengers, pointing out visible parts of the trail, in western Missouri, Kansas and Nebraska.

+Ragemutt 170 isn't long in the big scheme of things but look at the progress man has made since then! The biggest advance in science and technology out of any 170 year period EVER. The scope of that is staggering. Staggers ME anyway! *grin!*

@Chuck Blankenship So Chuck, explain how that cheery message ties in to an admiration for history. You another home grown prophet predicting doom? People have been going on with that stuff for millenia...yet on mankind trudges. Do you have a date for us? A rough estimate will do.

When I travel around the Mojave Desert and Death Valley, I trip out imagining early pioneers treking through the heat.

@Mustang .308 Settle down.

@Mustang .308 Whew...Seems I innocently stumbled into 'taterville.

Amen

Ya if you got sick you died. No anesthesia Average life span was 50 years. Lol good times

@@Vernbubba; I don't think it was fifty years!

@@guynorth3277 I just looked it up cause now I was curious and in 1860 the average life span was 39.4 years. This was mainly due to infant mortality rates. Tough times for sure

Freedom to die of Cholera, TB, Diphtheria, Polio, starvation, exhaustion, the elements......

Very cool! The museum at the base of the bluff is great!

And the grave sites

Imagine those pioneers seeing all those snowflakes, those Karens and BLM nuts today...

We have quite a lot of fossils in the part of New England that I live in, I would love to see some of these wagon ruts.

That pretty cool

What have you found? Wow!!

Did he show you a patato?

My God, no road rest stops, bathrooms or running water. Imagine having to survive that trip? Apparently, this is how CAA started, formerly, HAA. Took 2 months for emergency services by smoke signals, but they were there to help.

How cool!!

Huh

@@VOOODOOO37found the idiot

I was going to say the same thing 👍

I was wondering why only the wheels seemed to make a path yet the oxen hooves and human traffic had no effect on it what so ever.

@Tom Jenkins Hooves and feet didn't always hit the same spot, so no continuous wear. Wagon wheels always rode in the same spot; most wagons were made the same width. Those are truly ruts made by continuous traffic.

@Tom Jenkins Ever been to a 4x4 park? You don't have multiple paths to get from point A to point B. You have this one road out there, the other road out there is 100 miles south. 3 or 4 wagons at a time, hundreds of wagon trains. We got out there on wagons before rails, had to do it for about a hundred years. Soft stone + steel hooped wheels × multitudes of 4 wheel, 2,000 lb carriages = ruts, my man.

@Tom Jenkins Well, don't buy it. That's your dealio. That is what it is, bro. You can think that those are "natural ruts." My concern is that you can't wrap your head around what it actually is, ruts from wagons, but you can wrap your head around the wind, or water, or whatever have you, is responsible for those ruts. That just so happen to be in the easiest place for a wagon to transverse, and a wagon's width apart. And they're not out by themselves, but rather, connected. Like a trail or something. One road. Lots of carriages. Lots of time. There were 6 main trails that all the people on the western seaboard used to get over there till the railroads connected it. However, I'd love to hear more on your "natural erosion " theory. Do tell.

I spent most of my life here in the valley and lots of locals do not agree with the story Re-told here... First, Oregon trail never went through S. Colorado.... lots of those tracks stop right into mountain sides or peter out into just one rut up a cliff...there are lots of 10 inch ruts that go nowhere... Archeologist in the area can only say they are used by Mexicans to get firewood.... But lots of people think they are from a pre history civilization that is not recorded yet. Possibly same civilizations that created lots of mounds and structure no Native American Claim.....This guy is just repeating what he found to read. More information will be let out over time, stay tuned.

Ml

Laura Ingalls Wilder books and the gold rush was in the 1880's. The west wasn't what you'd call settled prior to that. That's about 141 years.

Are they from wagons? In solid rock? Doesn’t look right to me.

They are...

I’ve camped near there.

Then you watched the video.

@@james1795 Not only did I watch the video, but I lived near there.

Thanck ! You wraite my comment but not whit my bad english ! Bye bye from Italy !!! My town is near at " via Aurelia" ,one very long road of ancien roman !

Tell schools about them!

Sana fe trial still can be seen in central Kansas..have trail markers in places ...a few trail deaths are the beginning if some of our cemeterys

Southern Idaho and eastern Oregon still hold scars of the Oregon trail.

@@elemar8209 That's part of our nation's history! They should be tourist attractions.

​@@rexanderson5458 For me they were history lessons in school. Going on field trips in grade school and junior high made history real and personal. Southern Idaho has tourist stops that point out the trail last time I was through there.

Calistoga has so much history and is a beautiful place.

Sandy Ca, if they dropped their loads to get over the mountains, what would be the point of continuing the trip with an empty wagon?

Only if you drive on bare rims, with all your life's possessions with you, two thousand miles from home! No cell.

@@bob_frazier "that's the joke"

im in ohio and the State Flower is the Orange Barrell...

Hopefully they’re too lazy to hike that far.

I was not there.

@@bradc9491 ...or were you?

They already have if you look closer at some earlier in the video.

I was literally thinking the same thing and when I opened the comments, your comment was first. I was wondering how many wheels they broke or how they knew where they were going. I have so many unanswered questions haha It also looks like the rocks drop off a bit so what happens when the wagon goes over the rocks? No GPS back then so they would have to know the route maybe? How did they know where they were? I would love to ask them these things

@@c.b5996 how about the camber some of those tuts were on? when he was walking on flatter land & ruts on the side of the hill

@@tripplefives1402 ok but if the stone is brittle it would crumble & if it was hard steel wrapped wooden wheels would not cut grooves into stone, i know because i am a 27 year plus stone fabricator/shaper. those tracks look like they are/were made in a soft medium that hardened. if i had zero experience working/cutting/shaping stone i may believe the ridiculous narrative of wagon ruts carved stone.

I know right? I never imagined this history still existed.

@@jonaeflure it's amazing stuff like this still exists I'm mind blown right now lol cool stuff

Groovy man. ( sorry couldn't resist ;-)

@@vintage_85 It was there in 1975 Kojak .

@@jonaeflure; I do remember this from grade school (it was parochial)

The Romans would be proud. 😎

Absolutely amazing 🙌

I love her videos.

Maybe you should try getting out once in a while.

I spent most of my life here in the valley and lots of locals do not agree with the story Re-told here... First, Oregon trail never went through S. Colorado.... lots of those tracks stop right into mountain sides or peter out into just one rut up a cliff...there are lots of 10 inch ruts that go nowhere... Archeologist in the area can only say they are used by Mexicans to get firewood.... But lots of people think they are from a pre history civilization that is not recorded yet. Possibly same civilizations that created lots of mounds and structure no Native American Claim.....This guy is just repeating what he found to read. More information will be let out over time, stay tuned.

Hmmmmm.....

I'm not sayin' it was aliens.....but it was.......

Burrows

Are you serious? Deer and elk can RUN easily through this topography at 40-50 MPH.

@@greg6235 Not strapped to a wagon that weighs 1000 lbs trying to haul it up and down hills in that terrain, get real Greg-o. Lmao 😂

Made from wagons 20 feet tall...? Such a stupid explanation for this.

@@mykuntstynx9463 They actually kept increasing the size of the wheels, which were obviously man made, so the wagons could follow the deepening trail (lessening the risk of getting stuck).

Those marks are not from wagons. Its absurd to think metal strapped wooden wheels would cut into stone like that. How many wagons was there to wear grooves 16" deep...

@@spage985 Those are definitely wagon ruts and whether or not they were worn or cut into the rocks it's still a connection with the past and a monument to the fortitude of the people who pushed the boundaries of a young nation. If you don't shiver with excitement over the historical connection to that effort you should probably be watching a sitcom.

@@spage985 they cut depressions and water run off helped increase that. I learned from this old what used to be dirt road but was two gullies with a center ridge that varied between them in the field. The space was averse truck tires width and the challenge was to ridge your back the whole on the middle section . Time 30 years maybe from active farm to field for farm land. Had no tress just grasses and low briers but mainly tall grasses which were heaven for making bike trails and jumps in... Back when land was just country or the woods were not today issue someone's "mi property wah wah get off" but where free places of wonder where kids could play outside and no one worried about them doing harm riding their bikes or picking the black berries.

Look what I don’t get about the ruts being caused by wagon wheels is that in some instances the ruts are not uniformly spaced if a wagon was to traverse that land in that rut and came to a spot where it was not adequately even it would’ve busted the wheel right off that doesn’t make sense to me at all

Yes. Much cleaner and people's initials too.

Shame we just turned to flowers and cupcakes! We would not last a week in the ol west!

Yes. I agree

I'm in Texas, the hwy 4 miles from my house runs along the ost el camino real. It dates back to the early 1600s, when the Spanish was here, and they turned Indian trails into their wagon trails. Most of its paved now though. We're still using it.

Tens of thousands of yrs

@@MHB7000 that's what i think also, we've been around a long long time.

Do you always travel alone? I really like your videos. Keep them coming.

I’d have to say the wheels would be burning a deeper mark from the weight on a steel band wheel. If the animal did not have shoes it would leave a vary soft footprint

Here the asphalt roads are rutted where the horses trot, pulling the Amish buggies, and not where the wheels roll.

@@ducati135 Yep rubber tires. Not wooden steel wheels right? And I said they did not have shoes on their animals either.

@Tom Jenkins You need to get together with the cart rut people and have babies.