As a grandmother I try to slowly introduce Wall and the EU to my young grandsons, their parents don’t mind at all as they have no idea and can’t be bothered to listen. My youngest child on the other hand will listen and is fascinated. I’m enjoying the journey. Thank you
It is sad to say, but from my observation there are those who will listen and those who know it all. Children will often listen to gran or gramps so keep up the chats, but keep them short and simple. I wasn't allowed, as a four and five year old, to leave our yard. But I broke that rule when I saw the old lady across the way picking things from the vacant lot across the road. She would pick camomile buds for her paraplegic husband. She mentioned, once, the idea to turn to nature for our health and that, I have done ever since. My other siblings run to their doctors at a sniffle; I haven't had a cold or flue in 18 years~I snort xylitol, use it to soak and clean my ear drums, and use an eye cup wash of Xylitol twice a day. Bacteria (and possibly viruses) gravitate to the xylitol and then starve to death or explode🤣. Instead of visiting a doctor I study health and nutrition and listen to my tongue and stomach. Food is not used for entertainment or taken out of boredom. Save a gimpy hip, at 67 I am in good health; 30 years still to go, I figger... Health of my younger siblings, one gone, they others not so good. Namaste and care, mhikl
Mhi kl - I've also learned to listen to my stomach - it's never wrong - always tells me what to eat as Well as some other 'gut instincts' about everyday life...
The is one of my favorites. I believe Wal to be one of the most staunch supporters of Velikovsky and his work and one of the most knowledgeable scientists of all time!
The Electric Universe is the most important revolution happening on Earth right now, having the potential to retell our ancient human story. If accepted, it could unite humanity under a banner of healing, allowing us to project into a future as we are truly meant to be--the stewards of life--the conscious embodiment of electricity.
FractalEarth while I agree, I also see the E.U. community in a comparable way to Trump.. meaning people tend to react the same way when either are brought up..
Glad you agree, but don’t understand what politics has to do with it. If you don’t like the commitment some have to the convictions of their beliefs maybe you should find something you are passionate about and dig deeper into it.
Our history is already being retold by many. The work of YT channel Mystery History imo is enormous in this regard, as are Hancock, Carlson, Bauval, West, Schoch, Foerster, Tellinger and many others.
+ FractalEarth Spot on my friend, spot on. This is why Dr. Velikovsky did his work and who Wal and many others on the thunderbolts team continue their`s. It is in my opinion the most important work humanity has ever encountered it clears the air and opens up great possibilities for humanity, all humanity! It is just one reason that I like to share this info with as many folks as I can in hopes of helping humanity learn to work as one. Thank you again FractalEarth and I hope you have a great 2019 and hope to see you at a thunderbolts conference some day.
This put me in mind of the myth of Saturn "devouring" his children and associated mythologies. I really wonder sometimes how many gems are still hidden in our ancient mythology, completely lost on us and our insistence on overly literal and materialistic interpretations. What if our ancestors knew a lot more than we do now about our origins and the metaphysical movements of the cosmos? It's always been odd to me that we were often taught to engage with ancient mythologies as nothing more than frivolous and fanciful. I'm so curious to see how it all comes together in the future.
Thank you WT, your years of dedication have done wonders for those willing to except reality and to usurp good knowledge. Absolutely beautiful work Sir, RIP W. T... We learner's love and adore you, I speak for many .. love you...and thanks for your calming way of speaking.
Your description of Saturn as being a dwarf star that threw off Venus makes me think that we may have been looking for Nibiru in the wrong place. Maybe it has been here in front of our eyes all along.
ceramictiletonight I never heard of niburu until several years ago I was packing up my painting, and I looked up twards the sun set, and I saw two glowing astrological bodies. I feared that a huge meteor was about to crash into us, but it didn't get any closer it just set with the sun. I shared this experience with the person I was living with at the time, and he showed me videos of it recorded by other witnesses on RU-vid... I haven't seen it again, but it's an experience I'll never forget.
@@saved_yet_so_as_by_fire What you describe sounds like a rare meteorological phenomenon called a 'sun dog' - it was for sure not 'Nibiru'... If it had been an actual celestial body, everyone on the sun-lit hemisphere of Earth would have been able to see it - which was not the case. PS: It has nothing to do with astrology, but astroNOMy.
Good call! When I look at much of the work that Dave Talbott and Wal Thornhill, among others, have done I get to see a whole history of our planets history and our history as well and many of the stories are really starting to make sense. I also get to dismiss anything that does not take this part of our history into consideration.
I Love Wal's opening warning about formatted (and stagnant) education! My sentiments exactly! The Master has a way with words.. This presentation was fascinating and truly educational! ...and as always, with excellent images and graphics, which greatly aid in retaining the info... Looking forward to the next video Thunderbolts! Thank You and Many Bright Blessings for 2019!
YES! YES! YES! Wal Thornill, you ROCK! Your voice is so calming in this sea of insanity. It wouldn't matter what you were talking about, I feel such heartfelt warmth come through your voice, I can't help but believe it is a reflection of your personality and I want to say that it calms me. (Same with Brian May, btw, listening to him explain how they used the equalizer when recording Bohemian Rhapsody) these astronomers and cosmologists (who won't consider all possibilities so by definition don't practice critical thinking and who behave in a ways that opposes scientific model of inquiry) who are as wrong as their ego's are huge, you don't counter with hype and rally, or be righteously offended. You simply state the facts and then explain simple and clear, why they lead you to an alternative conclusion.d let them speak for themselves In a manner that I can follow you and understand your points using my almost 50 year old science degree and broken brain from an insane society. I never stopped learning. I followed the discoveries, I lived through them. I loved to stretch my mind with the size of the universe and contemplating black holes, neutron stars, and the BBT. Then one day, it was if the scales fell of my eyes and thought, BS. I searched "alternatives to the BBT" and didn't think I would find anything. That is how classical I thought. Finding the EU theory was such a mental relief. Cosmology is simply the religion of Atheists. You might as well just say, "and God said, "Let there be light". Silly little men on a podium, gathering groupies when "the heavens declare the glory of God!" I was so moved by the ending of this presentation on Saturn that I just had to stop and do my writing for the day. You have spoken deep wisdom in a calm manner. I long to hear people make sense, so I just had to reply. I feel deeply grateful for your work, as well as all of the others I listen to on TP and the others that work here. I really do have a broken brain or PTSD (related to concussion injury) and I long for things to make sense. It feels like everything is up-side-down and opposite right now. And people say things that make me feel like I'm the crazy one. So I decided to join the community at criticalthinking.org. I couldn't wait to attend the forum and practice breaking down ideas, using critical thinking. Guess what? There was nobody there! I kid you not. Why does that not surprise me? I went back to the forum to write exactly that and the forum was gone. They added a RU-vid channel. I haven't been there yet, they are educators, I guess they are trying a different approach to get people involved. OK, thanks for listening. anyone reading this far. Have a good day, ok?
Thank you for your wonderful work and insights. It somehow brings me hope and awe. I am a critical minded person with a good capacity for abstraction being a software architect and all the material presented by the Thunderbolt project seems so logical and fitting the observation that it leave be befuddled that it is not being incorporated into mainstream more quickly. However it will in time, that I am certain of. You will ALL be remembered, respected and admired by the future.
Should this be true, and I'm pretty open-minded (I liked Velikovsky's "Worlds in Collision"), this is absolutely wild! Earth born of the brown dwarf Saturn, Saturn in turn captured and metamorphized by Sol. That's a pretty damned cool history!
That was so fascinating and changed my whole perception about our solar system, the thought that Earth could be a offspring of Saturn makes sense, astrophysicists have been trying to figure out how Earth got all its water, it's the best hypothesis yet.
The levels of eloquence, graceful fluidity, and major research time, takes Thornhill's lectures to a category that we would give extraterrestrial beings, "highly advanced" and absolute truth! Blessings
Great work. For me an electric universe could mean that our universe is controlled more than we think. Planet movement, location and moons of those planets might not be some random unlikely events.
For those who are able to pay attention they can see that Wal Thornhill is the embodiment of intelligence and is one of the most intelligent people on this planet! We are so fortunate to have him as a fellow human being. Wal is a stand up guy who anyone could call a good friend. I don't believe anyone has stood along with Velikovsky longer then anyone I know and I.ve been following along since 1972 when I first read (Worlds in Collision) and like Wal was first introduced to Velikovsky by my father. Thank you thunderbolts and thank you Wal, again. Happy New Years to all of you and all my "Electric Universe" W. Thornhill, enthusiasts! It is because of you and folks like Wal that science will be able to move forward. Thank you, James M. Kenyon
Always wondered why the sun n the moon were created on the third day but there was light n darkness (night) for two days. Also it never rained on earth until the flood happened but a mist watered the earth from the ground. These two frequently unnoticed bible verses have troubled me for a long time but now I see what they meant. Imagine the horror n terror our ancestors endured when the darkness of space was revealed after the plasma glow encompassing the earth n Saturn was extinguished. Imagine seeing Saturn drift away n disappearing while Jupiter became prominent only to also be cast out n drift away until the sun became master. I believe the disposing of the two "gods" explain the ice ages. The period of time when the earth was shoved from one system to another.
I think the people who lived in the golden age of saturn probably created earth's done the firmament in order to protect it from future events like this some people think this is an enclosed system the sun is man made
Thank you for these presentations, getting all the scientific communities contributing together in an Electric Universe theory as one and keeping the memory of Velikovsky in view. The scientific Academics will one day recognize his contributions and works. Happy New Year and look forward to your next presentation in 2019!
There are no actual scientists that would get involved in this tripe. It is based on absolutely nothing. I suggest a physics 101 course at your local community college, it won't take you long to realize these guys are full of it.
Well if it was real there certainly would be at least *a single* advancement in technology involving it in the 3+years it’s been around right? Nope, but at least there have been multiple advances in actually physics science and technology, most of which wouldn’t even work if this was real (spoiler all of them work flawlessly)
@@MUIDYLANICE you mean like finding evidence for dark matter? oh wait thats been there since 1933 which is waaaaaaaaaay older than 6 yrs, or we could both respect the fact that its difficult to find evidence to validate an entire theory of the universe
This is the three hundred and fifty second time we get another example of Wal's predictions come true.... And the mainstream consensus Science-ism priests are surprised, did not expect, have no explanation and sometimes admit we may have to change the way we see _____ (insert topic)
The mythic storyline is the literal explanation Wal breaks it down in the order that he sees. As I, with limited eyesight can see. Waiting for repeatable confirmation... too bad my years are so short....as are alls.
I've been so lucky to find the Thunderbolts team, and I have to say they are true scientific heroes. So much of it is so obvious yet so well indoctrinated against that it can only divide us, which is sad but that's how life works I guess. Thanks to everyone who is not clinging to the lies until their dying breaths, and even though I know that the Earth doesn't really go around the sun or that none of the numbers have any real meaning, I will still wish you all a very happy holidays and repeat my gratitude and respect for everyone here, not only the hero scientists in the actual videos. I'll have to watch this later though, with a bit more beer inside me, as judging from the comments below, it's going to be just as depressing (with a view to compassion for the people who will never be able to accept the obvious). Happy New Year and best wishes everyone. Eyes open, no fear.
Thanks for the excellent presentation Wal. Another piece of evidence supporting the ideas proposed by Emanuel Velikovsky! The similarities in water on Saturn and Earth is very exciting to hear. Some will have a hard time explaining that and I can't wait for more discoveries to pile up!
A week ago after watching Part 1, I asked this question: "Is it possible that earth is a freed satellite of Saturn? Whilst a satellite or once freed, magnetically drew the water on our planet from the rings of Saturn or a nebula of sorts comprised of water molecules surrounding Saturn? Pardon me if this is a naive question but I have not yet found or read any such hypothesis. Additionally, could earth's unique composition, however it came about, been the reason that it was freed of or moved away from Saturn? 1 week ago. Part 2 has answered the question. Thank you.
Thanx so much for this upload ThunderboltsProject. I love hearing observations and more accurate ideas about our solar systems past. Keep up the great work. And... Happy New Year!
I was once watching stick welding and watching these little glowing balls racing about on the floor and thinking to my self That's how solar system's are born. Haven't really given it a second thought until now watching this
+Trevor Or I have a friend who teaches welding in 4 or 5 categories and he said the very same after watching video from the thunderbolts team. good observation Trevor have a great new year.
@@trevoror8668 Your welcome. We have a place to go where we thunderbolts/electric universe folks can keep this "Electric Universe" Dr. W. Thornhill conversation going as some day many of these folks will pass and we need more folks to step up to the plate and take their turn at bat. Our future generations are depending on us to do this. This year I plan on doing even more for the thunderbolts team. Thanks again Trevor, James Kenyon
Wow. I find this evidence to be legitimate for scientific examination and overwhelming! I am going to share this with all my closest family and friends that will listen. 😃☄️ Congratulations and thank you for sharing this information for free on the popular RU-vid to be discovered by as many people as possible.
Accepting that electricity is more important to the sun's function than presently known is pretty common sense. The idea that we were once a moon of saturn is... alot. I accept about one third of the information straight away. But I'm going to doubt the stranger elements until I can really dig in. Thanks for this work, it's fascinating. I'll keep an open mind.
We were not a moon of proto Saturn. We were a planet orbiting a brown dwarf star within a red anode glow. That anode glow contains water. And the red glow covers the entire surface of all orbiting bodies. Those planets will have no seasons and is a perfect breeding ground for life. Also explains where all of Earth's water came from. The sun captured and overtook and shorted out the brown dwarf and had a electrical discharge that being Venus. Essentially we were a planet of a brown dwarf along with mars and Titan. Earth remains a planet of the Sun now. Titan is now a moon of a former brown dwarf star.
Thank you for presenting this information. This is so logical that it makes more sense than what we have been told by science. I have one question I hope you can answer. We have sent 2 space probes out past Jupiter and its moons it is powered by electricity. It is a computer which is very easily disrupted by static electricity. From what you have said about electricity holding everything in place and controlling everything why didn't the electricity on Jupiter mess with the space probe as it got near the planet?
The electric universe solves and answers more cosmological questions than the gravitational universe answers. Isn't it time to move to a new theory that solves more of the questions? why do scientists in all fields get embroiled in their own dogma then begin failing? will they ever learn to be open to new ideas? thanks for this one.
Has the Thunderbolts Project responded to Professor Dave's video debunking electric universe theory?? He raises really great points and it'd be great for EU to address them in a video.
There will come a time when the electrical universe will be accepted and known as fact. And the Thunderbolts project will be revered and honored for groundbreaking truths. And your research and names will be known throughout the science communitys. For you are truly the embodiment of pure science at its best. I salute all of you.
I've been following Roger from the Mudfossil University channel, for 6-7 years now. He's doing an amazing job on finding and analyzing the remains of giant people and animals, who've been petrified, on Google map !! And he kept mentioning Velikovski's name. So, I wanted to learn more about Velikovsky. Thus, I discovered your channel.
100% correct in theory and our hope! All.our universe and species are interconnected through resonance,vibration,light and frequency and they feed each other and all species of life...Yhe polarity is the academic,political and religious institutions.. ours.and our.planets evolution will be held captive until we can break the spell..great work
I have memories of the longest night. We had to burn real rowman candles to keep them off the steading. I remember how to make those as well. It's not a firework. It works with spirit ties.
"Gravitational sytems are the ashes of prior electrical systems." this sentence captures the essence of existence on so many levels. This entire presentation is superb and revealing this Hannes Alfven quote has had a profound effect on my mind. By the way the astrophysics presented here correlate with astromythology in detail THANK YOU
It's pseudoscience and you're ignorance and arrogance is the only reason you believe something disproven by actual scientists. I doubt you have any of the math knowledge needed to actually do science. You probably never took a linear algebra class.
Wow, a tour de force! Quietly-spoken, calm, but building to an intellectual crescendo. We are wounded animals. To heal, we need the courage and integrity to remember. Amen to that!
Savitr. Refers to the sun, from dusk to dawn; essentialy the dying and resurrecting god, I would suspect. God of the underworld at times, perhaps. Seth, in Egypt? Would make for an interesting study.
I have also heard it said that Those ancient tribes from Africa & I think of Asia remember a time (oral tradition maybe) when there was no moon! When there was no axis tilt...so, that’s bizarre! I watched a man talk about how the moon is needed due to the axis tilt in the Earth. He said with no moon, the rotation would be like Mars or Venus. True? No idea, but I think Indian texts are much more reliable, if indeed he got this from such.
As for the paradigm shift: it is too late for that now and, sadly, it will not happen. That being said, this is one of the many best videos of the TP YT channel ever. All hail Wal Thornhill, may he be blessed with many more years in good health!
11131618570 the fact that they are simple doesn’t mean they are true, just that people who aren’t educated on the topic understand better which means they immediately agree with it
Planets giving birth to other planets makes more sense than the gravitational accretion model. Electric Universe Science is repeatable and observable, great presentation by Wal Thornhill. Wishing all the folks at Thunderbolts Project and Electric Universe a great and prosperous new year, thank you for all that you do!
I absolutely love your videos and feel like my whole world view is far more in tune with the cosmos as I learn more and more about the electric universe.
@@ian5576 why do you feel the need to reply to my comment? Like it has anything to do with you my path of research and discovery? As if you hold all the answers to the universe or otherwise. Seriously mate, it is not your business whether I find these videos inspiring or not. Go do something else more useful. By the way, I have a science degree, since you seem to want to be involved in my universe. I have often felt there are too many holes in the mechanistic model.
I know one thing for sure and that is I wouldn't want to have to debate Wal on this subject. Even if I had 19 professors on my side. Wal is, and or should be, a professor, and should be getting paid as such and there are many others on the thunderbolts team who deserve the same. Happy New Year to everyone and I hope this is the year that mainstream science comes to accept the "Electric Universe" Dr. Thornhill, paradigm as a valid concept and gets some funding to do even more research on it.
Incredible video, I will now be following this channel closely. I also appreciate how transparent you made this video, love the intro / starting with group think topic as well as ending with it - I think this is what is needed going forward. Not sure why some individuals get so aggressive if an idea gets proposed that goes against theirs.
Thank you and Happy New Year to Wal and all at Thunderbolts Project. Such exciting ideas, the only drawback being the stubborn refusal of the mainstream to actually think. No change there then.
Steve F first off the fact you use the term “mainstream@ shows that you have no understanding of why physicists do what they do second here’s some immediate problems with this so called “flawless” theory that hasn’t had any useful applications in over three years of existence: Why don’t different objects with different electrical charge fall at different speeds? How did this EU get started when there would just be half of everything right here and half of everything right there because of the “opposites attract” and “everything is equal”? How do humans even exist with this apparently “constant” electromagnetic energy? Please don’t tell me you think electromagnetism means magnets do you? How on earth have you not made any advancement or applications of this “knowledge” in almost 5 years now?
I truly am so grateful for and humbled by your work. By all the work on the electric universe that makes profound sense to my 70 year old curious bones. You guys and Ben at suspicious observers and the troops at the Diehold group seriously have changed everything. I know you are currently considered some kind of heretic but as usual they will be building statues to you once they get over themselves. Thank you again. It matters a great deal. Your courage and perseverance in the face of the bell ringers and smoke wavers lol.
Excellent and crucially important synthesis of what we now know at this point in time, in light of the new recent discoveries. As long as the Orthodox Establishments keep ignoring this, Mankind will not be able to heal itself and will not be prepared for the future.
Thank you, and keep up the brilliance. Love you all, and best wishes for health and blessings into and throughout 2019. Happy New Year, cheers and hugs! 💗xo
Just like how how a teenager can instinctively know it’s the truth when their friend tells them that licking a 9V battery will make them grow pubes, just like a flat earther instinctively knows it’s the truth when someone says the entire universe is a giant egg made out of toris
I read velikovsky around 1976, struck many chords about what I had observed about earth. Your video causes me to ask, why not Jupiter? It just doesnt have the right makeup? Isn't it also possible that moons could have been traded? ( between jupiter and saturn ).So all the inner planet's migrated there from further out and slowly get pushed back out by micronova and wind up with the micronova debris on a solar system debris beach called the asteroid belt? Or maybe our asteroid fields are micronova debris too. I'd really like to see you do videos about these questions, if they're not just ignorant wonderings.I do respect your education and ability to use it. I really love it when someone actually displays the dissecting credible science that proves logic vision. Always proofing vision logic, clearing our thoughts of mental hallucinations. Thankyou very much. Except for the waking up of primordial memories, which I do class as post traumatic stress, and I really don't want to go through the primordial processes again. But they are pressingly close. Survive well Mr Thornhill.
On all the thunderbolts.info group, I wish you a very good New Year. Your presentations were wonderful interesting, thank you for the beautiful last Year. Werner Schopf
+ Werner Schopf Happy New Year to you as well Werner and many many more. Its nice to see your comments here again and I hope to see more. The thunderbolts/electric universe or what I've come to call T.E.M.P.U.M. or The Electric Magnetic Plasma Universe Model T.E.M.P.U.M. for short because that's exactly what we're dealing with and living on/with/in/?. At least we have a place we can go to learn more about our history then we could from anywhere else so far. Keep up the good works thunderbolts and thank you.
@@wernerschopf6215 And a very Happy New Year to you folks as well.The thunderbolts has a great team and I look to see some of their work coming to be accepted by mainstream this year.
@@velikovskysghost I also hope that we will accept by the mainstream this year. Oue team is working so hard, and the Logic behind the EU is so clear, I hope that the time is here, where the people hear the truth
@@wernerschopf6215 Humanity would be better off hearing the truth and as you well know the thunderbolts/electric universe team have a good understanding of our true history.
As always you learn something new all the time. Mankind in Amnesia what a great book. One of the things that struck me in that book was about human sacrifice. & self-harm I was wondering how linked was the recent teenager/young adult self-harming phenomena, maybe a human amnesia phenomenon liked to a cosmic catastrophe from the past.
+ Hidden Manna That's about the size of it as far as our continuing to react to something we don't understand because like Dave Talbott says on the DVD (Thunderbolts of the Gods, The Tutorial) "Of course we can't remember the events the celestial references are no longer there"... Because of the work the thunderbolts team is doing I am working on a healthier me this 2019 and have already started some healthy changes in diet and exercise and can already start to feel it. I plan on making 2019 my year of enlightenment and hope to do more work for the thunderbolts team this year!
This video comes just in time for New Year's Eve. It's exactly this day on which the global cosmic catastrophes caused by interplanetary electrical discharges are recreated in the most immediate way with fireworks. Normally the reenactment of earth's primeval and ancient catastrophes happens in our sports events, as well as in music and film, which give us our today's "stars" and "starlets". And, of course, above all else stands capitalism, the economical system primarily based on exchange (guilt/repentance) and competition (struggle/rule), modelled after alchemist, hermetic and gnosticist concepts, and the political system of rule, control, administration that enforces capitalism. No social, economic and political system has ever carried the primeval and ancient "war in heaven" to earth and recreated it here as a way of life based on suffering, guilt, fear and scarcity as well as rule, hierarchy, struggle, war, terror and genocide more than the current humanistic, "enlightened" one. Welcome to western, venusian civilization and its "Freyja rule" = "freedom" cult.
Just wow. The ignorance is astounding. What a shameful slam of the system that has fed more, clothed more, brought more out of poverty, educated more, and done more to advance the human condition than any other system in human history. Now, if you're talking about the fiat currency system, you have a point. But the capitalist system of risk and reward, ingenuity and innovation, ownership and profit, is without a doubt the most productive system yet devised for the human species.
That commentary is kind of the best comedy I've ever heard/read. But otherwise it just shows how deranged and dangerous these capitalism loving bloodsuckers are together with their hidden, pseudo-secular cloaked planetary worship and blood sacrifice cult they enforced to whole humankind and made earth probably the most miserable place in the universe. But it also shows how deeply the trauma of the ancient catastrophes has eaten its way into the human mind and soul and forces people to fully succumb and subdue themselves to systems of suffering, struggle, guilt, fear and scarcity and give up any ambition of a truly* joyful, peaceful, fulfilled life amidst a universe full of life to participate in the fullness of life. *"truly" means: far far far beyond bourgeois humanistic kitsch, sentimentalism, romanticism, moralism. It's a deeply human thing that lays far far far beyond any enforced social roles and habits of labor, consume, tax paying and partying.
TP and EU have enjoyed so much success in understanding our universe, its history, and our place in it for a very good reason--INTERDISCIPLINARY research, cooperation and sharing of ideas and discoveries. We may in individual fields reach erroneous conclusions but the chances of EVERYONE being in simultaneous error are all but impossible. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck...it's probably a darn duck. *Science belongs to us all.*
This makes sense , how will the electric universe effect space travel . if we eventually travel to other planets , will a different electrical charge damage our space crafts ?
