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There is not another garden quite like it. Maybe doesn't have the "best bonsai" trees in the world but certainly the most innovative, and creative. Ryan and his team are and helping others to push the art form in a way that it, imo, certainly needs. I'm not even sure what he is doing should be called bonsai it's feels as if it's something different entirely. Just my 2 cents, great tour thanks you for sharing!
@@BridgeCityBonsai1 them the ones who talk a lot and are the "experts ". That being said bonsai is still pretty new to the us. The Japanese have been at it for a while and they are a people who tend to master most endeavors that they set their minds to .They know their native material where as we are just beginning to scratch the surface of the species that grow native here. There are bonsai in Japan that are 800+years and centuries Oder that have been bonsai for hundreds of years past down from generation to generation. So yea "best is subjective", I can say mirai has the some of the most innovative and creative trees in the world, so much so that I wouldn't be upset if they called what they are doing over there something else besides bonsai. I mean there are quite a few trees in that video that are not even in pots, dudes planting trees on top of metal sculptures!
I’m a novice Bonsai enthusiast, but l know when I see something that’s unique yet classically trained with plenty of quirky accents as these. You’re Bonsai has personality.
Incredible collection. Ryan's style is more of a natural approach like Walter Pall, and that's not a bad thing. Some of these I would even classify as penjing. Many times in Japanese bonsai we see examples of trees which are not true to nature. It's exaggerated. And that's not a bad thing either. Bonsai is an artform which is, like any art, subjective to the viewer.
Very well said! I appreciate the Japanese style Bonsai but for me personally, I am not moved to reflect on my connection with nature when I see a standard Japanese tree the way that I am when I view the trees in Ryan‘s collection. For me, that is one of my favorite elements of viewing, bonsai trees.
@@yoteslaya7296 not saying you are right or wrong ( there really isn't a right or wrong it's completely subjective) just curious as to how you came to the conclusion that he is overhyped?
@@stewpidaso1024 because he studied under Masahiro Kimura people think he has some special bonsai knowledge. Also his crusade to put "American" bonsai on the map is comical. John naka has done more for bonsai in the usa than Ryan Neil will ever do
Very nice collection, I really want to see in the future that all of this tree become lush and full. Right now just by watching I feel the tree's are weak and some of them have issues.
I can guarantee you that each and everyone of those trees is under the best possible care they could be as bonsai trees. No garden will have 100% of their trees in perfect health at all times. Some material may be new to the garden. Some may have just been repotted. Some may have gone through high levels of stress from extreme heat. All of these trees in this particular garden, however, are being cared for with the utmost attention to detail.
I know right? That was my favorite thing to see in person. It feels like you’re in the redwoods. Check out my new bonsai page for more content like this. youtube.com/@BridgeCityBonsai
El reportaje es malisimo, el cámara no deja de andar y no se detiene en los árboles, así mismo enfoca algunos que son los que a él le gustan, sin pensar que a otros entusiastas nos gustan ver los árboles con más detenimiento y no sólo los que el considera. En cuestión hay que mejorar mucho.
Gracias amigo mío por la mordaz reseña de mi vídeo amateur. Sin críticos como usted, ¿cómo sabríamos qué vale la pena ver? Lamento que tuvieras que ver este video. Es muy injusto que RU-vid te obligue a ver cosas que no quieres ver y no te permita pasar al siguiente vídeo. Gracias a dios que estás aquí para mí. Intentaré mejorar y ser mejor. ¡Gracias por ver!
@@BridgeCityBonsai1 Ser amater, no significa publicar, valore su trabajo y si lo considera aceptable subalo, ver el video completo es esperar si hay momentos y momentos. Un saludo
Japanese wouldn’t class these as bonsai. This is something else, personally it’s not something I would consider owning but each to their own. Japanese bonsai are set by strict rules that gives them a natural feel like no other that has a beauty that cant be matched from the elegant tapers of maples, the smooth but strong trunks of their pines and junipers to the exquisite nebari that gives great age and stability, this seems to break all of those rules.
Definitely agree to each their own. You’re right that like many other things Japanese, the bonsai there follows rigorous standards and practices. But bonsai at its heart is an art and therefore it’s practice is left to the artist to decide how it is best expressed. Saying it’s not bonsai seems questionable to me. Like all practices, there is a wide berth between practitioners. Just my humble opinion.
@@BridgeCityBonsai1 it’s definitely not bonsai In eyes of the Japanese. I would call it a form of bonsai or American Bonsai but it’s not bonsai, some people really like Ryan’s style and that’s fine. In Japan a bonsai with a hollow in the trunk is not a bonsai (they say it’s worthless), but in other countries hollowed out trunks are highly sort after. Remember Japanese have trees that are hundreds of years old and have been passed down generations to a strict regime, I don’t think anyone’s going to change their mindset.
In fact that is exactly what it is. American Bonsai. If bonsai is representative of the connection we have with nature then Ryan’s form and the form adopted by many practitioners here in the Northwestern USA is most definitely going to show trees the way we encounter them in the back country here. Personally I find myself far more drawn to this style than the strict Japanese model but I can understand why others would feel opposite. I also think understanding both trains of thought makes for a far more complete artist and Ryan most definitely understands the Japanese aesthetic and knows full well he is straying from it.
@@BridgeCityBonsai1 the problem with American bonsai is it’s not as pleasing to the eye to the rest of the world, I would never have one of Ryan’s trees in my collection as it would never fit in with the trees I own. There’s no way Ryan is a better artist than what the comes out of Japan, I’ll put some of my 75 year old maples or jbp that would be half the size of Ryan’s most expensive bonsai’s and take a vote from 100 people and I’ll win everytime. But like I said Ryan’s work is not really bonsai and will appeal to a small section of people compared to a 30 year old Japanese bonsai. Trying to change things that have been done for 2000 years and then saying his is a more complete artist is quite a provincial attitude, but then again Americans do think they’re superior than everyone else.
Ok well we are just exchanging opinions. Without knowing me, it’s a bold claim to say I think I’m better than anyone else just because I’m American. Ryan is a skilled artist by the Japanese standard. He also happens to have chosen an additional form of expression of the art. It’s fine that you don’t agree or don’t appreciate it. Time will tell if the widening of the bonsai spectrum yields “better” trees. Doing something the same for 2000 years doesn’t automatically mean it’s the best way. It just means a lot of people follow rules and dogma. Thanks for watching and discussing.
Illegal. This is poaching. Harvesting trees out of US Nat'l Forests, Nat'l Parks (like Crater Lake), Nat'l Monuments, BLM lands, and State Parks is illegal. Cord wood can be taken, as can limited quantities of berries, nuts, etc, but only for personal use. The whole point in creating these special lands was to protect them against commercial harvesting. Mirai has very old trees, that Nature sculpted over centuries, and they are displayed as bonsai? Unless they've been harvesting from private property at alpine elevations (7-10,000 ft), which is unlikely, this is theft of national treasures, for commercial profit. Respectable bonsai masters have been moving away from yamadori collecting, acknowledging its destructive impact on the aesthetics and ecosystems of Nature. Why aren't viewers talking about this?
Because quite frankly it’s completely ridiculous what you are saying on a number of levels. First off, the collectors I know collect in allowed areas after purchasing permits to do so. Commercial collecting can also be done but that is not what Yamadori collectors are doing. Secondly, Yamadori collectors are not seeking trees that would grow healthy and strong otherwise. We are generally seeking trees which are struggling where they are and in fact would often likely have very few years to live compared to specimens growing in ideal conditions. Even if they would continue to survive, the life they’d have had no comparison to the care and appreciation they are given in the hands of a collector. Thirdly, Yamadori collectors don’t even show up on the chart of individuals and activities which threaten harm to our National Forests. It’s literally a non issue and acting as if it is in the same category as killing animals out of season or without permission or harvesting natural resources for profit on par with illegal logging or mining operations is a little silly. If you care about natural resources so much, spend your efforts to disparage truly bad actors and not individuals who dedicate their lives to appreciation, education, preservation and stewardship of trees.
@@BridgeCityBonsai1 I'll be respectful and not ridicule your comments. I can cite the laws if you wish, but let me summarize. It's illegal to take anything, repeat, anything, out of a National Park. Ryan has admitted to taking specimens out of Crater Lake National Park. Regarding National Forests, only each collector will know whether they went through the proper channels to obtain a permit. Have you, every time? And if a collector did apply for a permit, I doubt they gave the full details in their application, that is, that they planned on taking the oldest trees out of the forest, to then sell. It's illegal for individuals to take forest products to later sell. Finally, regarding your view that collectors are "helping" these ancient trees, as though a tree that's 300 years old needs "help," well, enough said. To be clear, I love bonsai. It's a sublime art...........when done through styling, not when it's the theft of ancient trees from protected public lands. And again, more and more respected bonsai masters have been moving away from this yamadori collecting, acknowledging its destructive impact on the aesthetics and ecosystems of Nature. Each person, every day, gets to decide what the line is on their own morality.
@@Fidgit7 Wait so each person gets to decide their moral line except you’re also going to come on here and call them criminals if you disagree with their moral line? Okey doke. 🤙
It’s okay honey, the variations of forms here must have confused you. Now why don’t you go make a boring upright style from stick in a pot and call it a day?
Surprised you’d feel the need to comment if you’re not impressed. No problem though. Everyone likes different things about bonsai and everyone is at different points in their understanding of bonsai.
