I thought the same thing: why not remove one or both batteries and then see how much it weighs. It might make sense to heft the bike (sans batteries) into a trunk and then lift in each battery separately.
@@Mia-kf2ie How the heck would I know? I don't have one of these bikes. It might be easy to pull out one or two batteries and easy to pop them back in again. Maybe it would be too much work. It was just an idea,, but I have to say you don't contribute anything by tossing out such a vague term as "troublesome". At the moment you seem troublesome.
@@Mia-kf2ie The rear battery is easy... just flip the seat up, unlock the battery, and lift. For the front battery you have to fold the bike, release the battery, and pull it out of the frame, so it's a bit less convenient.
I wish I could use my h6 dual battery e bike. I bought it off amazon, and a few months there were broken welds on the frame. I contacted support and they sent me another frame to me here in Arizona in a box that by the time I got it a month later was so beaten and broken that AFTER I paid a bike company $200 to replace the entire frame, we found out the one that was sent was bent at the hinge on the body of the frame so it would not close properly and it wasn't possible to lock the frame closed. I desperately tried for months to get wallke to help me, and provided the written statement from the bike company invoice saying the hinge on the frame was bent causing the bike to not be able to be locked in the closed position, and the bike was unsafe to use. Wallke refused to believe me or the bike shop, and refused to do anything other than send a new locking mechanism, which would not fix the fact that the hinge on the frame, not the locking mechanism is bent. I regret spending $2500 on a bike I got to use less than a dozen times. I would seriously avoid this company.
A fast bike with a lot of nice features. great that it come with 2 batteries. Have to remove the mirrors, which should improve the aerodynamics, then try a top speed run again. Might also try a down hill run just for fun.
Remove the mirrors ??? Lololol a bike with a person on it probably has the aerodynamics of an upright brick or worse! At 30 mph or less these little mirrors are a very negligible wind drag that will not be noticeable with or without regarding the range of the bike or it’s top speed. Just sayin
The duel battery makes the bike to cumbersome, what's needed are batteries with higher capacities/energy density, so you can have more range. Hopefully solid state or some other new battery technology will be available soon for e-bikes.
I own this bike and love it. I have had it for three weeks. I am a big guy and this is my second ebike. I wanted one that would fold and fit in my Ford fusion. This does the job. Let me tell you it is FAST, even with a big guy on it.
I really wish Wallke would figure out a couple of things that would make their 20"x4" folding bikes really cool. 1.) The crank is too small. They need to make this thing big enough to keep up with the throttle at 30 mph. 2.) The handlebars are garbage and look terrible. Put something on that look more like BMX handlebars. With regard to folding and transporting the bike, you need to put the kickstand up before folding. Use a velcro strap to keep it together after folding. Take the battery out before lifting this thing, and store the battery in a fire retardant bag.
I just ordered my H6 yesterday and also have a DAVIDBRANDNEW turtle neck FX stem advanced ordered as well. That stem will let you use any BMX threadless style stem and BMX bars. A larger chain ring / smaller rear gear would eliminate the ghost pedaling at higher speeds, not ideal to have to swap parts on a new bike but I'm always tinkering with my stuff regardless.
Yeah I heard this thing weighs 90 pounds if you just fold it up and velcro it together. That's pretty damn heavy you're not going to want to carry that very far except maybe up your stairs to your apartment? Lol and I would be concerned with people stealing these. I know that they come with a nice Lock & Chain in the box, but I would rather have some type of option to order one with an actual onboard alarm wired into the device? That way even if I have it all locked up, if somebody messes with it and moves it, the alarm goes off with a piercing alarm, and of course also alerts my phone within a few seconds! I'd like for them to offer stuff like that?
i paid 900 for my lectric xp and added 1000w to the front (500w is in the rear) and added a extra battery /controller. was about 350 extra for everything(installed my self) and it goes up hill like a champ torquey bastard lol
I prefer non-motorcycle looks for the sake of riding trails, love range, and I like a bit of extra power for safety margins. This bike ticks the range and power boxes, but the design has me conflicted. The first half is light and innocent looking as a Lectric XP, but from the hinge back it's all Mad Max electric motorcycle! But at least that way, people won't yell at me until get past them. The brake rotor are massive and have a huge contact area, but if the brake pads are standard size then the rotor is just wasted material and weight. Thanks for an awesome review!
Preface: I dont own any Wallke products. Im disappointed in you. The bike can confidently hold a 300lb rider. That is the main reason for its hefty scale reading. That is a significant selling point for many would be buyers in this segment. And I just checked the pricing. You can buy this for $1599 right now.
I'm with you man, I'm seriously thinking about it. I'm just wondering about that Peg system in the back for any Riders feet? How sturdy is that assembly back there? I'm thinking I have to assemble that? Or is it like solid all the way through the axle and the frame for a person to put their feet on those too small of pegs? I've heard bike experts say that you should put the professional heavy-duty cranks inside those pedal assembly also. Those are the first things to go because they're always so cheap. Also, I've heard you should always get the top-of-the-line heavy-duty inner tubes, you don't want every little piece of glass or something popping your tire That would be an obvious disaster to have a big heavy bike like this to have a flat because the inside inner tube was just cheap and any little puncture would go right through it
I wish you would include max and min seat height weight without the battery and a more in-depth geometry in your reviews. Some bikes seem cool, but if they don’t fit someone, what’s the point?
I really wish that there was something foldable, with this level of performance but narrower tires. I'd love to be able to get higher top speed and less weight with narrower tires, and a bit more range too.
@@sawkrandom23 I think it's excellent. I took several trips out today for errands and it's a great car replacement. I went 63 miles one Saturday to the next town over, as a test. I pedaled a lot though. The trouble is: speed two is 17 MPH and hard pedaling. Speed 3 gets to 24 and it's too fast to pedal. But I'm hoping I can change sprockets and contribute all the time with a different gear ratio. V good bike! The handles are a little grandma ish. Slippery pedals. Seat hurts haha but v good. I wouldn't pay 2500 though. Or more than 2000.
bbshd on a Way lighter folder will Still do over 32mph at half the weight and price . Can't imagine trying to get this in a trunk without damaging something .
Not everyone needs to fold the bike , so no problem there it’s built like a tank the city I live in well there’s a lot of pot holes lol so this tank would do just fine, other reviews praise this bike to me it seems like it can do alot all depends what your needs are , the grizzly I don’t think it’s as solid as this tank but again what ever you want 🎉 I like this bike
I was just about to back order the Ariel Rider Grizzly but this is a super tempting alternative option. Similar battery, both have full suspension but while the Ariel Rider is faster the Wallke is cheaper and foldable. Feels like the Ariel Rider Grizzly might be more fun to ride on but this Wallke might more efficient for when I want to do bike deliveries. Can anybody help give some input on this?
the grizzly doesn't really have equivalent. if you want a very fast hub motor ebike that will accelerate quickly and climb any hill fast with great range it's a no brainer.
@@gothamtyler grizzly is 2x 1000/1850w custom bafang motors with steel gears. 3700W peak and having two motors you have twice the thermal inertia and cooling capacity. at least twice the torque (the grizzly V1 was 2x80Nm, haven't find the torque for the v2). so climbing the same hill at the same speed, the grizzly will use half the torque on each motor, so lower amps, on a climb where a single motor would slow down and overheat, the grizzly will just cruise up the hill. I think it's two completely different beasts. if you want just to cruise at top speed on flat roads one motor probably is just as good. 1300W is like a low power gas moped and, 3700W is like a tuned liquid cooled two stroke 50cc or an air cooled 100cc 4 stroke. the grizzly is just geared low compared to it's power output, so top speed does not reflect the power. onyx makes even more powerful single motor mopeds that go 45mph or 60mph they are probably more suited to riding on the roads than the grizzly
@@geemy9675 doesn't fold. no range. crappy shocks. crappy brakes. build quality is not the same at all. *wanna tell us WHY they pulled the results from the climb challenge for some reason* ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Oq-Fc5D90d8.html aggressive bot marketing won't change facts
I am thinking the same about the Grizzly. Looks like the Wallke with it's more upright position may be better to pedal versus the Grizzle or Super 73 style bikes. I bet pulling both batteries would reduce the weight by 14 or 15 pounds.... still, lift with your legs ;-)
At around the middle of this, you talked about the rear seat and those pegs in the back? Here's what I don't get, the manufacturer says it can hold up to 350lbs for "NORMAL" traveling under ideal conditions? So obviously you could have 100+ -pound girlfriend full size 5 ft tall or more, that wants to ride with you? I just want to know why they didn't put a little bit better peg system in the back for her feet? I was looking at that rear axle pegging system and the secureness and how sturdy that's going to be back there? And some kind of bracketing accessory you could buy two raise that rear seat up say 4- 5 in higher off of that back frame so a fairly normal size adult doesn't have their legs cramped up all the way? I mean that's what makes these bikes more desirable is the fact that you're able to ride around your girlfriend, not just some little seven or eight-year-old sister or something
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. ru-vid.comUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
I saw a guy on another review video that show the different displays from that top screen that faces you. It also has a USB port. So I think there's other screens you can click while riding to show what's going on with the torque or usage?
folding bike seem popular, wondering if people really fold them. for a small wheel bike it makes sense but when I see folding mountain bikes I wanna cry
@@Mia-kf2ie lightweight foldable bikes like Brompton are for people living in tiny apartments in NYC/walking up stairs or elevators, or lifing the bike on a sedan's trunk. if the bike's 90lbs you're losing most of the practicality anyway
I wanted folding for the smaller footprint to take on vacations in my truck bed. I won't be loading and unloading every day, this will let me get away without having to use an actual bike carrier. 90+ pounds and the sheer size of this bike make even a few steps up to an apartment unrealistic as a "portable" option.
You can't really call it a two-seater if there's no option to add foot pegs. This is like the 4th review I've watch in succession that has a rear seat option, but no foot pegs available.
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As long as the voltage is the same will work; but I don't think the controller can balance the draw. The second battery looks exactly like the one on Fiido L3.
@@tdgdbs1 not that it won't work 48v is 48v. My comment is about his "math" has him deciding that half of 35 is 17.5. Well one battery is 21 and the other is 14. It was just rhetorical silliness of the presenter I was speaking about. 1:27 even the picture at this time shows the presenter doesn't know what he is talking about.
@@First.nameLastname It's just an oversight on something not that important to most people. It's certainly not a lack of knowledge, as Micah is one of the leading authorities on lithium ion power.
@@tdgdbs1 The batteries will be fine as long as the discharge rates are not hugely different. I have 5 batteries and often run a 20ah in parallel with a 12.5ah battery. The batteries stay balanced unless I'm going full throttle or climbing hills for a long time. As soon as the big demand is over, the higher voltage battery feeds the lower one, which sees the input on the discharge line as regen power until the voltage reaches parity. I have thousands of miles running dual batteries, and the controller simply sees it as one big battery. This weekend I'm doing a group ride with gas mopeds going 30mph for 60 miles, so it will be interesting...
agreed i paid 900 for my lectric xp and added 1000w to the front (500w is in the rear) and added a extra battery /controller. was about 350 extra for everything(installed my self) and it goes up hill like a champ torquey bastard lol
Some buses have a rack on the outside that holds bikes. It may fit inside but it is too heavy anyway. I guess folding is good but for folding and lifting everyday is unlikely for many people. I do really love bicycles. The simplicity is almost magical. But riding across town is as dangerous as one man taking on an army. I stay on sidewalks as much as possible. Although is illegal a fine is better than a funeral. Ride safe.
Hey, nothing wrong with being compact! My wife is 5' 2", my BFF is only 4' 11" and weighed less than this bike until she got pregnant, and my gaming buddy probably weighs less than 85lb. They're not small... they're fun sized!
I imagine that its too heavy and too powerful for you because your a little dude. I'm a bigger guy and I would crush any woman that weighs less than that bike. So I think its just fine for me. And I would mostly need the bike for faster rural type roads with higher speed limits so the speed is not too much. Of course I wouldn't push it flat out full throttle when in a city. That said. I do thank you and appreciate your opinion
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. ru-vid.comUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
