War Comes to Sweden - The Grey Zone (Marine Reacts) 

Just look at the US right now. We're fighting each other rather than focusing on solidarity and strengthening ourselves

Sweden actually sent out a folder to everyone here a couple of years ago saying "If the crisis or war arrives". It's a folder with information on what to do in a crisis and how to prepare before something like that happens. Its not been sent out since the 80s so clearly we once again see a threat and its scary even though most don't really see the seriousness in it. Thanks for showing this information.

Thank you for your service Jameson’s Travels

"Alright, I'm gonna stop right there", famous words

When the film talks about dismantling the defense it talks about the Swedish defense.

Have a wonderful day everyone!

Sweden dismantle of total defense simplified: 800 000 troops to approx. 50 000. Air force from hundreds of assets to around a hundred. Navy the same. Storage of fuel and essentials for the whole population for a year emptied and sold. Protection masks for the whole population destructed. The Civil defense branch of the total defense disband and its civil stores emptied (In that the said protection masks) The Coast artillery fortress's dismantled (Covered the whole east coast of Sweden). 4 million people which had their assigned duty in war planned ahead. Now the same law as then says all citizens of Sweden are to do their duty but the individual planning is gone. In short approx. 90% of Sweden's Total defense is no more. We had at most three Army Corps. Two in war organisation plans and assets for the third in reserve. Now the Army for example have two brigades a third on the way - Sweden build up again.

20:36 He is talking about the dismantling of the Swedish defence, not the Russian, i'm pretty sure they never dismantled.

4:40, I think you miss understood him. Paraphrasing "It's about getting to loss trust in each and the institutions they rely on"

About the refugees from Syria one should know, that largest amount of refugees went to neighboring countries as Jordan, Libanon and Turkey. But Russia with its own interests in Europe and Syria tried to attack there and made a larger crisis of a not so big crisis to weaken the open societies. Actually increasing the conflict helped to put more pressure on Europe with the expected refugees. As Russia supports Assad, no Syrian i talked to wished to go to Russia.

You probably hear this a lot from your subscribers, but i want to say it too. I love the fact, that you start the video that you're gonna react to, when your video that we watch does. Not like many others, just talking bout the world for 5 minutes, before they react to a 30 second video. Love it! Keep it up

This series was not what I expected from Sweden. Very very interesting, and much more transparent than what we have been getting from our government here in the states as of late.

The cold war never ended imo. They just managed to convince their enemies that it had.

You’ll enjoy this series mate. It’s really really good!

You give good comments Jamesons!

Yugoslavia was always prepairing to fight the foreign enemy. So it had a strong army. But no one counted that the enemy could come from within. And the country ended in a bloody civil war. The army simply disolved... And it had no function to protect the land itself...

I know what to do, but it has to happen simultaneously and in a coordinated manner.

Love your commentary and the different camera angles.

This is touching too close to home.

You’re very well spoken. I love hearing your output on world issues, keep up the great work man.

Lets GOO Jameson, just about half a million subscribers!👌🏻🇺🇸 I've been here since about less then 10k subscribers. Well deserved🙏🇺🇸

Greetings from Portugal, thanks for your videos and comments 👍

While in Germany, I asked a colleague why East Germany has not prospered like the West after 20 years of unity. He said when those who know only communism have died off the new generations will take over and do well.

you are missing the point with the immigrants and the comments on the Italian newspaper. the purpose was to influence the Italian public not the Swedish.

I just watched youre other vid on Odins Men, great video there, great video here

I'm Swedish and I always highlight the problems of Swedish migration policy to outsiders. And I get accused of being a "Russian troll" constantly. So for my situation, this video only seems to serve the purpose of inocculating the Swedish government from valid criticism of their policymaking. After all, why adress criticism from your citizens when you can just dismiss all criticism as "foreign cyber influencing attacks"?

The point isn’t about wether refugees cause resentment in the host country, it’s that hostile external countries can water the seeds of resentment with targeted disinformation.

In the segment about disinformation regarding Sweden's refugee policy, every time you paused to speak you repeated the exact same sentiments as the disinformation campaign. Apparently it was working well 😅.. Otherwise great video as usual!

To the list of potential "bad actors" sadly the USA needs to be included. There has been a few cases of foreign militaries entering Swedish Air and waters in the last decade. There has been a case of a suspected Russian submarine, a case of a Russian fighter jet entering Swedish airspace and one case of an American "spy plane" violating Swedish airspace. As a Swede the position between Russia and several American allies (NATO members) feels quite precarious as both sides have shown a disregard for neutral parties whenever they feel it's necessary, regardless of the evidence for such a need.

They actually said: that this causes people to trust less in leadership, one another and institutions.

man your setup keeps getting better and better. It's getting real fancy in your "react room" lmao.

as a swede(Someone from sweden), it feels good too see someone else comment and inject thoughts on these subject.

Great that you looked at it! Not sure if the translation was not clear enough but I think you actually missed the main point they wanted to make. It was not about immigration or divided people. The point was that disinformation is larger part of the modern warfare and since the fall of the Berlin wall we have seen these kind of new disinformation warfare and annexation of Crimea is the most clear example.

Just finished MCT. Glad to be back to your videos

It's like some of the fellas are saying here: the dismantling being referred to in the video is the dismantling of much of the Swedish military apparatus, at one time among the largest (per capita) in the world, between 1993-2014. The so-called "peace dividend" *cough naive cough*

What a great run down. Very good analysis that lots of people are missing.

I love hearing Swedish spoken it's like it's cousin German and papa English trying to talk over each other almost 😆

Talking about the refuge crisis, the majority of Syrian refugees went to neighbouring countries. A lot of the refugees that came during the crisis were from Africa or Afghanistan. They saw an opening to get to Europe with the Syrian refugee crisis. We have an Afghan refugee living with my family and he saw an opening in 2015 and went for it (he was already a refugee in Iran at the time).

As a Swede I love your comments, "who loves immigrants". Now, I know a lot of people from the middle east and eastern africa who are working and are good people. However, there are a LOT of immigrants who just chill out on benefits

8:47 Sweden tries to handle it with stuff like this movie. Just cold information. No patriotic bells or whistles, just "this is what is"

Great video, I went though a shorter version of this education a year ago.

Well said, James!

Just to compare in 2015, the influx of migrants we recieved in e.g Södertälje more than the US recieved and the mayoir were invited to the Obama administration to talk about it. The naive thing is that we did lack the strategy to assimilate the refugees. There has been a major change and we are thankfully re arming the country and raising the awareness.

Love your videos! Spend way too much time on your channel. Any plans to make video about the norwegian military? FSK or KJK? Or maybe about the homeguard that we got. (Civilians that do military duty 1 week a year until the age of 44) Been great to hear your oppinions and points of view about this. - former firefighter in the royal norwegian airforce.

In the refugee crisis in 2015 they went to Sweden because of the benefits they get here. They seeked Asylum here and they had to go to places So called EKB camps/buildings . And when they had come to Sweden they phone up friends at home or were they came from and said to them come her and live a calm life here and get $ and food and a roof over you head.

A very small portion comes to Sweden and Europe, 90% of the refugees flee to neighboring countries. The total number are massive so even a small portion of that number is still a large number.

Jameson god bless you my friend I respect all you do the information on ours as well as allies I respect all active and retired military may your travels be safe and free of idiots

i got a bit diferent feel from what they were saying than you, this segment was more about methods to to influence citizens to the degree that an enemy wont need to deal with a war declaration, for example the part about imigration, the main goal was not to discuss the imigration, but rather as an example of how an dividing topic can be used to in the italy example paint an country in bad light and in that way change your own politics. but it can also be used to split an people, something that can be seen in swedish politics, it is at the point that there basicly are two camps, those for free imigration and those against it. and the debate climate is turned up to the point where not politicaly active voters can percive it as either you have free imigration, or if you dont vote for those parties the gas chambers will turn on straight away. but they did not talk about how imigrantion will affect the country, but ratherhow it can be used by na enemy to grow mistrust towards the country. the disasembly of the defence is a question that is debated, but it is more in interested groups, many people agree that the old defence had a lot of points that needed upgrading to work well in that time(an example: part of the dismantling was getting rid of steam locomotives for use in case of war). but there is a lot of debate about that when the dismanteling begun they expected ~10 years of warning when an enemy would potentialy threten sweden, so there would be time to rebuild. the kind of warning like georgia and crimea.

Well spoken, greetings from Sweden!

9:57 The situation is simple. Refugees fled to their liberators. Liberators were US and Europe. US didn't want them, so Europe had to take them. Refugees didn't just end up in Sweden. Greece, Germany, Belgium was full of them. Many European countries also rejected refugees, so they had to go wherever they could. Obviously they preferred to flee to the wealthier countries, not to the poorest.

in 1996 I met Paul Tibbets, pilot of the Atomic bomb on Hiroshima. He was a tough man. We met at the Air Force base. seeing that atomic bomb blast reminded me of it. Thanks for all your videos you do a great job on so many topics. I have a few German friends that told me there was and still is some issues since the 2 countries were put back together. East Germany is a more poor area compared to the former West Germany. That sort of thing, but there doesn't seem to be any major issues.

I think of this guy as a wise grandfather, then think "Oh shit Im like the same age!"...

12:30 Perfectly explained, Jameson.

Sounding conspiratorial is one of the first steps to realizing that even if our neighbors are good that somewhere there is not just one small conspiracy but hundreds if not thousands swirling around us. Can't think too much about such things as we are mostly helpless as humans, especially the mortal type.

This should be shown in all local government and the like. It’s a balanced assessment of the risks of complacency especially in the digital age. Thanks again for this.

It's good to see when the government is in something like this, because if you just tell people that how dangerous things could happen just by a cyber attack they don't believe it... maybe now after watching this. Btw I don't really like reaction videos, but the value you put to it is invaluable, you make this platform better with your videos, thank you!

This was very informative.

10:14 they ended up in sweden, because it's the neo-marxists agenda of modern politicians who belief that the " perfect" civilisation is multi-racial and multi-cultural. Orban explained this agenda pretty well in an interview. SJW and Woke propoganda serves a purpose and an agenda, it's not about " feelings" even though that's what they make it appear to be. It's there to make a grey people, by mixing them together. Because a grey people have no identity, culture, roots or religion and thus they're supposed to be easier to control/govern. But these politicians haven't learned from history, and that is that multi-racial and cultural groups will always end in bloodshed, genocide and eventually a broken peoples who won't know peace for many generations. Post-Soviet countries and middle-eastern countries are a perfect example of this.

A bit of perspective of the 2015 refugee crisis - Germany and Sweden went ahead of other European countries with a very accepting attitude. Since many countries were sceptical, Germany and Sweden did what they thought they had to do, and at the same time show the rest it could be done. BUT, many other European countries never went along, but instead shut the borders. If they all just did their part, there wouldn't have been a "crisis", because the numbers of refugees in every country would've been more managable.

as shootings, explosions, stabbings, murders, humiliation, threats of violence and gross humiliation and daily rapes (is this what you call the gray zone) and the war that "comes" to Sweden, because if it is, it is already here and has been here the last 15 20 years

I'm sad for Sweden. They wanted to live in peace and be a healthy and happy society so they mostly disarmed after the fall of the USSR? Now they have so many problems, and are stuck in the middle of the ongoing tensions. It's a really raw deal.

I felt the need to mention that the majority of refugees actually goes to neighboring countries, you talked about it early in the video. I was actually surprised about how many people those countries take in.

So far 13 minutes in and you are right about everything you are saying about the situation in Sweden!

The reason they come to Sweden is that our country has a reputation in the middle east where if you go there you get everything on a silver plate. Cars, money, apartments and the only thing you have to do is to go there and seek asylum. Also the its not true that the neigboring countries around syria dident take refugees. They took the most refugees. ( sorry for my english )

As swedish there is this awkward moment, when you have lost faith in the goverment and its politicians and actually see this kind of stuff as the actual propaganda. Its a tricky situation

I think they said it’s about undermining the leadership, make people trust each other less, and the institutions they rely on. Not make them rely on the institutions.

Dude I just watched it after I saw your first video about this. PS you make great content love from Sweden!

Pretty straight forward and candid.

In other channel they mentioned, that economic "warfare", works as destabilization and causing chaos. Eg. flood foregin market with super cheap food, to destabilize domestic production, and endanger food production. Pretty critical aspect of society if other side plans to isolate that country then politically (with skillful diplomacy in UN etc).

The USA is in a gray area, with regards to war and conflict, right now. The Gray Are they speak of sounds like what the Chinese military calls 'All-Encompassing War'.

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04:19 I think you misunderstood the subtitles here. He's saying that the goal of these syberattacks is to get people to have less trust in the institutions that govern our everyday life, not vice versa like you said. They are talking about dividing a nation by making people put less trust in it, not dividing a nation by making everyone come together and rally behind the flag and government, like you seemd to understand it as. Just clearing up a small misunderstanding, great video otherwise👍

Scary how much this applies to us stateside, even though its a Swedish production.

The norse people are always cold and honest about serious things. I'm certified ethical hacker, sometimes people says I'm paranoic because the way i speak about some things. But most of them don't know how fragile is the "cyber world".

About the refugees, most refugees are in the closest countries, for example a hundred thousands to millions of refugees from Syria are in Turkey.

No one should go to war, until the leaders that declared the war have been in the ring with one another. There is no reason to fight each other, when it's a few people starting and funding and getting rich from the never-ending fight.

Really makes you think more about the “virus” and elections. You start dividing people with who they vote. If they wear a mask or not, or three. I try to not consume the news anymore. I just try to be prepared and help others.

Your first words spoke so much truth.

So after the wall fell, not many people talk about this but there are documentaries on it. The state run factories, that for instance built motorcycles that nobody wanted, now had to be privatised, and huge amounts of people lost their jobs and all sorts of securities. Wanna go to the DDR store with 1 type of jam, or the super market with 10 types of jam?

I'm a german Speaker, and swedish Sounds Like a Drink Guy with accend, never Heard before

Between 1821-1930 1.2 million people from Sweden emigrated to US. That was 1/5 of the population of Sweden at that time,

Ok, real talk fellas. Weird Al's "Amish Paradise", is much better than "Gangsta's Paradise"

You should do a video of people tripping at festivals , I wanna know what your opinions are about psychedelics

As a swede I had no idea this kind of tension existed, im ready to die for my country if anything escelates

I do not think this video was about immigration, it was more used as a point to show when other countries through socialmedia tries to create opinion. This video as i understood it, was about the silent war where countries tries to infiltrate the opinions of citizens

Nice. Thanks.

10:30 the thing to understand about refugees coming to a country far away from their home, is that those are a relative minority to all the people that didnt get out, or ended up in countries near their origin. Its easy to say " they are all coming here" (i know you werent saying that in this video) when most of the people fleeing a warzone for example, dont. its a matter of perspective. i also think when it comes to "societies not being accepting to migrants" is something that became more prevalent after the rise of the nationstates - when the ideas of "national identities" where becoming more congealed -when your were taught to think about yourself as a "swede", or "italian" or "american" etc. And when talking about "assimilation" into a new society its not just a matter of cost. But also, what these new people can bring to a new society. For example , immigrants from hispanic countries coming into the US is largely a big part of the national economy. maybe alot of them part of an underclass (and thats another discussion). But i think this is another form of "grey area". Good or bad. My point is, that refugees arent just a simple matter of "cost", like i said. :)

"ACTIVE MEASURES" has been a thing since 1920. If you want to understand what is going on in the world right now, where all this conflict and apparent destabilization is coming from - read up on these two words. You might discover a whole new reality, if you are not familiar with this term yet.

Almost 500k!!!

A lot of people seem to have forgotten that the Internet was developed by the military, for military application.

As a Ukrainian, I've had a lot of strong deja vu's through the whole video.

5:03 Yep, the US is already under this kind of attack...

Good job!

6:00 don't forget conspirators and plants, this is essentially pests destroying the beehive, or the termites eating your property from within, the longer the government dismisses this threat, the bigger the damage is.

Refugees ended up in Sweden because they wanted to come here. Syria when it fell into its civil war wasnt some backwards country. Its university was the top of the whole region. Most people lived fairly westernized lives with swimming pools, iPhones and xboxes. I did a study now with a scientist in this subject and most came here firstly because they had learned of Swedens longlasting peace and neutrality. Second part was the amount of rights considering their children, that they are allowed schools, healthcare and what not. Ive personally met a ton. They are doctors, buisnessmen and whatnot. The whole "they wont send their best" is kinda false here, its everyone fleeing a ever growing war of extremism which the regular middleclass syrian family didnt want to be apart of. Their middleclass and upperclass is extremely similar to the European and generally western one.

Just so you know Jameson, about 800000-1000000 Swedish people emigrated during 1820-1900 to the US. We suffered harsh winters, with no lifestock or grain, which resolved with people starving, and ultimatley leaving... And they had heard of the promised land, and ventured west. Today there is estimatly 13 million Swedish decendants in the US, much of those reside in the north eastern part of the US. Funny, a country with 10 million population at present day "Sweden", at the time of 1820 we hade 4-5 million. "might be wrong regarding the numbers at 1820". Our decendants out reach us in numbers. Best regards David Former Swedish Armed Forces, Amfibiebattaljon Berga.

As for the refugee crisis... the vast majority of them actually went to middle eastern countries. But the ones that came to Sweden were essentially shipped through Europe because the other countries wouldn't take them and they knew Sweden had "friendlier" immigration laws.

Sweden took in about 250 thousand immigrants, it might not sound alot but for Sweden it is about an increase in population by 2.5 percent. A comparison would be if USA took in 17 million immigrants, during a period 3 to 4 months.

20:50 what they mean here is the dismantling of the Swedish readiness after the cold war, not about the actual military in Russia or Crimea dismantling

04:19 Nordic people dont view their government as a potential threat. For example, when crises hit, I dont ask myself if the government will go "overboard", but if they can handle it. The notion of cooperation is very strong in Nordic nations. We dont view the government as something "separate" because "we" are the government. Most people that go into politics in Scandinavia are not payed shills because we dont have such funding openings, while at the same time there is a dualistic aspect and prestige towards making your own country greater. Be it defending it or creating jobs for actual citizens.