The spitfire has a 13 second or a less horizontal turn time, you just got to go at the correct speed and turn , specifically the LF mk9 can turn under 10 seconds , so it is not really correct information of the stat cards 😂😂
@@explosivecommando9100 then take out the LF mk 9 on a test run , go at 520kmph in level flight at sea level, bank 90 degrees and pull hard on the elevator, you'll be surprised, if you use a stop watch
The War Thunder stat cards are kinda of stupid as they are "at altitudes", if you look the 17ish second turn time in War Thunder is at like 4000 meters where air is thinner
Doing Air SUpport in a team that actually marks enemies in Enlisted.. There is very few games that can give you such a sense of accomplishment knowing that your air support is actually helping the team push and take caps... Of course.. that only happens 1 out o 50 games because usually the teams are all bots sitting in the back line sniping, and refusing to move onto the completely open unattested cap right in front of them.. but alas.
A tip that I learned by accident is that you can mark in an aircraft from about 1500meters/units away. It becomes extremely useful in situations like cities/forests. Edit: but yes, having a team that keeps targets marked is a godsend, as tanks (especially against competent tankers) make capping/keeping objectives difficult.
The not being able to land at an airfield and repair is my biggest gripe of this game as well. Like if you look at it.. the maps are HUGE.. the infantry only use up like 10% of the map... there is plenty of room to have an airfield to land at. But I suppose they dont want people to stay in the air all the time. They want it limited because the only way to win is with infantry. I would say being able to land is best though, and if you do land even if it kicks you from the plane, then the timer on it is greatly reduced. Sometimes you just don't have targets, or need to go in a fighter to clear ground attack planest hat keep chewing up your team but once you deal with them you just have to bail out.. and that feels like shit.
Oh 100% but my argument is that if you're making the AA so powerful, then you need to give the pilots the ability to land if the do somehow survive a single 20mm anti air shell 😂
you have to land on the battlefield so you don't teleport. Landing out of bounds is what sends you away from your plane. Trouble is finding a spot to land and takeoff. I did it in Moscow forever ago. Edit: just tried it in practice mode and it seems they added a damage threshold for getting back into the plane. That explains why damaged planes count as dead the moment a pilot jumps out, before you had to wait for the plane to hit the ground to get the kill. You can probably hop back in as long as your plane isn't totally messed up. Another thing I noticed is I can't seem to figure out how to use tools in practice mode whereas before I could hop out and it was like repairing a tank where you just hold it and it'd repair the plane overall. I have a feeling the change to the way tools work for tanks might've messed up how they work on a plane. I think we need someone with better piloting skills than me to test out landing with minor damage and repairing.
I think the idea of no repairs is so that others can actually have access to the planes other than one single person the entire game. Another point would be the fact that you couldn't just turn around and run away as soon as you had an engine issue in the middle of a dogfight without getting shot down. You had to stay and fight in your coffin.
@@alexanderirving7577Not entirely, militaries like being able to keep their planes in the fight. Granted not all countries have the same logistical capabilities, but most would at least make sure airfields and the like are nearby-ish.
I think on why you can't land and repair is its better to quickly die :v than repair so other player can use the plane too since its limited to 2 plane at the same time As for the AA gun since this game is mainly an infantry game its logical to make them that powerfull since a plane can do crazy amount of dmg to infantry easily as well
I am a mid skill level war thunder pilot, but on enlisted I am a demon in the skies. In 2 years of playing I've lost maybe a dozen dogfights out of hundreds if not over a thousand. In conclusion, enlisted pilots are butt.
At some point AA guns was even more cracked because they had enough depression to act like a regular machine guns :) So it was also a nightmare for infantry as well. A couple of AA guns put on the point and it was nearly impossible to capture. I'm not sure how it is right now but when I played last time, around 3-4 months ago, they were unable to aim low enough. Down the hills anti-air/infantry defence still was possible tho
i remember this lol, it was so easy to just set up even on a flank and just mow down several squads of infantry with the AA or even as u said just put it on a point or choke and it was just ez kills.
I actually kind of miss it. An unstoppable advance coming to the last point, less than 100 reinforcements, left then the AA gun mows the incoming force. It was pretty epic back when it first released.
Those random deaths you had on the pacific map could have been from the enemy aircraft carrier. If you get too close on that map they will shoot you down.
His brain has been cooked by War Thunder RB, he forgot the part where you're allowed to have fun. Also, dying faster in Enlisted means less because you get to use the same squad multiple times per match. It's not one and done like WT.
@@joaogomes9405 Also forgot to actually play the match and spent 90% of it on air to get what? 10-15 kills whole game? Destroy other planes who weren't contributing to the objetive either? Planes in this game are meant to clear convoluted areas or destroy some vehicles then you have to swap back to infantry or you are pretty much afk to your team
AA being strong is good imo. It’s the only way infantry can counter planes if you don’t have a good fighter pilot on your team, and only engineers can build it. Few people actually build anything with engineers so I’d say it’s balanced. And I say this as someone who loves to fly planes in Enlisted.
CAS in enlisted is actually so fun to play. I love it when I get something like 16 kills by bombing the capture point when the other team is pushing or getting a direct hit on a tank and taking out the whole tank crew as well as a couple other squads that were standing next to it
I think they may add the repair features soon since the game is kinda still being worked on and I hope they add the cam that shows how and were you got killed from
It's a menace to all panzers, though. But I would argue that hispanos are just as powerful as any other 20, if you can actually hit. But then, at that point, 12.7 or even 7.7 do it anyway. Just a matter of holding the trigger down a couple seconds longer.
honestly in ww2 no plane just shrugs of a 20mm explosive round to center mass unless your a large bomber of some type and that's just because of there overall size
Apparently A5M4s do with 20mm Hispano rounds with the amount I loaded into one, and that was kind of my point. There's a purposeful misbalancing and tweaking to round performance in Enlisted. I'm not saying AA shouldn't be powerful, I'm saying if AA is going to be powerful, it shouldn't also have an aiming lead is all. To be honest, I wouldn't mind lead indicators to be removed totally, even from the aircraft.
I used to love CAS in Enlisted, but the tech tree update is so trash now I have a BR2 loadout but one of my 40+ soldiers has a BR5 equipment and I have to search through ALL of them until I find it otherwise I will get dragged into 1945 era games with 1935 equipment
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The moment I get killed by a plane, I revenge kill it with AA. Tbh once I started doing that, the game actually became fun when I’m not mogged 24/7 by planes in an infantry game. It also gives me a lot of points so thx for flying planes bbg.
Since I started playing Enlisted I've been completely hooked on the game's aircraft, unfortunately I don't find many opponents, I'd love to find more people to fly against or with...
I will add this. But having the lead indicators on aa is good for one thing, and that is most of the players just kinda put up with air craft ripping them appart this mean that one person who has aa in their spawn list actually stands a chance to solo planes. Will admit forgot you can build it but tbh i have never seen someone do that i just run an aa vehicle so i can remain mobile
low tier? Even when all my squads were BR 1 i still faced king tigers and panthers on occasion. my assumption was there is no tiered matchmaking, or at least there are not enough players to do it regularly. It's what is ruining the game imo, when i barely had anything more than a bolt action i was facing teams with STGs, FG42s and 5 star infantry that have more HP as well as top tier tanks and aircraft. Also the the MM doesn't seem to be based of ranks either since i regular see teams that are heavily mismatched like 1 team with 90% silver ranks and the other team 90% gold. Also i feel they still haven't balanced the factions since the campaign split. Germans having access to king tiger while the best tank the allies have is a Sherman 76. now historical accuracy has been thrown out i don't see any reason to not add tanks like Phersing, Comet or Churchill black prince. Also the fact it's still a "beta" despite being released for years and having an extensive cash shop and subscriptions rubs me the wrong way. I'd love to recommend this game but i cannot because it feels like a low effort cash grab and the devs/publishers really couldn't care less about the game if it continues to make them money and will use the "beta" tag as an excuse for an unfinished game. IMO it's no longer a Beta once you start asking for people's money, now its a product and not a test.
@@ВячеславФролов-д7я I replaced all my squads with level 1s with default weapons and it still said BR I-V on the search for battle button. I've even played factions i've never played before and it says the same thing. You seem less likely to be matched against BR5 players but it still happens. I tried playing with a friend who was new to the game and the first few games were not bad then we ran into a high level team and was absolutely crushed. since you can get so many advantages such as upgrading weapons, soldiers, vehicles and equipment like mines, let alone the BR ratings. even if the higher level players didn't bring the higher BR squads they still have a big advantage over low level players. I've looked on the forums and it seems to be a common problem for years, even before the campaign merge. Only it seems to have gotten worse now since the Germans and Russians get a lot of late war equipment whilst Japan and allies do not due the the original campaign timeframes.
@@itacticlesnowman726 And it kinda sucks lol, It can be taken out frontally by a PZ 4 and still struggles to deal with other BR 5 or even BR 4 tanks like Tiger and Panther. Its equal to a Tiger at best and more like a Panther yet its BR 5. I suppose now we need the super Pershing or a good ATG like 17pdr. But i get the feeling they are intentionally making the allied tanks bad since their aircraft are good. Just means there's no point in using tanks at BR 5. I can usually tell if i'm in a BR 5 game if nobody spawns a tank at the start since you would just be feeding free kills to their King tigers.
I feel like I am going crazy, I remember landing on the aircraft and being automatically repaired in enlisted. Basically does a fade out and then puts your plane in the take off position. I did it with the Japanese planes the first few weeks I started playing Though it was only in the pacific, obviously.
Germany has the best planes, for CAS use the FW 190 D12 it’s got 4x 50kg bombs and 1x 250kg bomb and a 30mm cannon to shred infantry and 2x 20mm cannons for dogfighting It’s not as fast as the P-51 & P-47 but if you play smart it’s a weapon of a plane probably one of my favourite planes in the game 😂😂
"Flies Plane that can do like 50 kills in one life and then complains that there is ONE thing on the ground that can counter that" ... oke... I love flying, but really? ...
I'm not a Warthunder guy, I'm an Enlisted guy and I enjoyed your video. I hope to see more if you enjoyed the game. Also I don't know why the planes wobble either. lol
Love watching you play the aircraft. I'm a former tanker, so I usually stick to the ground, but I have dabbled in fighters. You are awesome to watch. What server are you on?
5:37 you were most likely shot down from the ground by AAA. Also, excellent piloting man! edit: japanese machines are super durable for some reason unlike in real life, their tanks easily take m9 bazooka rockets from the sides and sherman shots and planes shrug anything off.
The armor values are messy, and there is a lot of wacky damage values on many tanks. For example, the Puma can take hits real well and even bounce shit with the wheels.
Haha good fights. I agree about repair, though I think they just think you will J out or kamikaze. They also balance by round effectiveness too if that wasn't apparent. lol I thought I would like it too coming from war funder but Really might as well stay on the ground. Vehicles are certainly secondary weapons to help breakthroughs and stop stalemates. I have plenty of sim war thunder time and flight was just too bouncy like you see, and bombing is so random. I think that is RNG and based on pilot skills you have to really grind out so, good luck on that. Maybe that is part of what your 20s are struggling to do. Skill issue of the pilot. I mean not you, or well, maybe you too but, IDK put some skill points into your brain. Or eyes because that shit is so hard to see ffs.
I think the anti air guns really arent a problem and heres my thoughts on it. First and foremost unless you're playing in a higher BR many ppl wont run engineers despite them being a big deciding factor in battles if played right, even before the BR system only a handful of players would use them, thats been my expirence with this game for 2 years now. On another point I really think you just got unlucky, ive hit planes on multiple occasions upwards of 10 times with anti air guns and had them still fly just fine or maybe take enough damage to cripple them a little so i think you just got an unlucky engine shot. My final point is realism, in sense of realism which this game is a bit on the realistic side especially with armor penetration and vehicle damage, i think what happened to is you realistic, a normal plane from that era would only take 1 flak shot before going down and killing the pilot ususally, you took a flak shot to the engine and didnt go up in flames and peices and still lived and killed a guy, that is remarkable and im honestly surprised a direct flak shot like that didnt take you out immediately, i dont think AA is too powerful at all, i think its accurate for the time frame it portrayed and the damage shows you how fragile a plane really is. Also some tips from someone whos played in aircraft often on this game, dive bombing, while it can be good often ppl will spot you during your climb or dive and interrupt you, its better to just learn how to control the trajectory of the bombs better instead of dive bombing, that was mainly in naval battles of that era and you wouldnt waste time during a ground battle, secondly, i wouldnt wait till ur 100 meters or less from the ground to pull up, this game will kill you for hitting a wire even, ive had it happen mutiple times and ive found the best thing is to pull up more like 200 meters off the ground, especially if you're bombing and have big bombs on your plane, i once was taken out by my own bombs shrapnel for flying far too low after releasing, that aside while its cool to engage ground troops as a fighter you're often gonna expose yourself to AA fire, and even tank fire and if you go down then enemy bombers can devastate your team, as a fighter its more lucrative to enagage other planes and keep those bombs off your team, hope some of this advice helps you
They absolutely need to nerf the fucking AA in this game. Now every salty noob who's just bad can use it to revenge kill you. Requires 0 skill for a trash player to kill a good pilot, very stupid.
Both the anti air and the lack of air field are to encourage people to switch up strategies and so that people don’t hog the plane slots all game. If you’re getting shot down don’t bitch about it, take out a squad and hunter/killer that AA! If your team isn’t on the point don’t just watch the enemy cap, get on the ground and do something about it!
7:40 Yes it is incredibly OP and a really shit game design. AA guns should not have lead indicators. I had a game where I just sat on an AA gun all game and I had 27 Aircraft kills in the end of that game. Fucking hilarious.
I don't agree you should be able to repair and take off again, i don't even agree the ones from an air carrier should be able to do that, airplanes are OP even as is in the game
@5:39 yeah AA pretty scary to deal with in Enlisted, especially since the lead marker is not as inaccurate as you'd think @15:21 Welcome to Enlisted! @17:38 yes you can die to an enemy bomb in your plane in Enlisted XD
A decent pilot in enlisted can completely obliterate a game. They don't want you in a plane that long because most game modes have limited respawns. I got good enough with bombers to drop bombs through windows. It was straight up unfair to the enemy team.
I think the aiming reticle needs to be reduced to a reasonable firing distance. The indicator is fine but being able to shoot at someone fleeing at long distances is quite unrealistic. There is no advantage to dive and run cause as soon as you bank they have an easy chance to spray and pray. Would like to see more skill involved in dogfighting. In WW2 fighter pilots average range of engagement was 50-100m.
My biggest problem when flying is that allied troops are not marking enemies on the ground for me to bomb or strife. This makes me lose time flying around trying to spot targets making me a target for AA guns and enemy planes that know I am there and easy to spot and got tailed. Second problem is that planes have am bad flight model. At least the ones I have flown like the Hurricane. Mouse and keyboard is so bad at flying.
Already said this in a reply, but I felt I should say it again, when in an aircraft, you can use V to mark a any point, tank, fortification, howitzer, etc. that you see. This works up to more or less 1500 meters and can be done while in freelook mode (pressing and holding C to look around.) I have used it in a range of situations, such as marking tanks that the guys on the ground can't see, marking points I think a rally is (usually when it's in a house/ a place bombs can't reach), or just marking large formations for radio operators to have fun barraging. P.S: hope this was useful.
Maybe I am a pervert, but I always use I-153. I use it even at 5 rank. 8 good rockets, 4 machine guns, they are weak though, but usually it's enough to kill 1 or even two planes. The excellent turn time and the good climb make this plane so good in dogfights. You can literally dodge enemy planes shooting at you.
Biggest problem with this game is that the teammates are utterly bad, unironically i believe that 10 disabled people would be better teammates than the current ones
one big complaint i have with enlisted is that gajin has no idea what peripheral vision is the amount of times i've flicked onto my allies and got shot because of it is unmeasurable
as you have said, one of the bigger problems of enlisted is that you cannot repair your aircraft nor land somwhere safe, you can only repair tanks which is a shame.. on the other hand, planes are the top lethal things that you can encounter in the game unless you have an intelligent engineer who can build AA to fight it
9:27 i know that this is an aircraft video but sometimes all it takes is an extra person pushing the objective to win/ dont complain about losing objectives when you are flying
and the fact that he flys at almost 90 degree angle dive and starts to fly out and around 50-100m off the ground 😐 plus he complains about everything too
