War Within Healer Tier List for M+ Dungeons 

Holy paladin is the ultimate mid healer? Perfect. I'm a mid human, with mid skills, dong mid keys.

I main resto druid, as soon as my team understands mechanics and can avoid the avoidable damage, we blast keys. Until then, it's a absolutely painful experience trying to keep everyone's health up.

Nom nom nom nom yes give me the tier list, absolutely fiending for this content

Rsham mains… it’s our time

“Here are the rules: no ties (makes A/B rank ties). High keys only (talks about low keys). Current state, no future patches (argues upcoming buffs for Druid).” You gotta stick to your own rules, Growl!

I think MW really needs either a shorter mass dispel (or a choice node in tree that massively shortens the cooldown of revival at the cost of less healing?), a bloodlust, or a battle rez along with tuning of dps, pick one. Just my opinion as a MW Main. I like where things are at in other areas even if being in melee sucks a lot of the time. I dunno, I'm not a dev and don't know the impact changes would have.

ive played every healer other than monk but this season i wanted to give a chance to monk its really fun tbh but i kinda miss resto druid :D but their healing is just sucks. i sometimes feel i dont have heal buttons in monk but i think i just need time to feel better in monk ig i could heal +8-9 key tho

Enough with the high end tier lists, please do mid-tier lists for the general player base 😊

The one thing that bugs me for Mistweaver, despite being a full meele heal, focusing a lot on a proper damage rotation for output both ways, you don't do any fucking damage. A resto shaman does double that damage from 30 yards away while also just healing more. It's so stupidly imbalanced

All specs are awesome in there own right play anything u find fun in a nutshell

Holy!

nice

Healed a couple of +6s on prevoker and the incoming damage is just so insane that i thought about skipping this season and since prevoker are now only A tier i wont get an invite anyway so that made that decision easier.

Resto Druid should be lower, its HPS is horrible

Druid in B tier is huffing more than just copium

Playing priest a long time and when I heard the dispels this season I flipped a table

Mistweaver always a bridesmaid. Don't care. Best spec ever.

If rsham and preservation has so much output, why was hpal the one that was nerfed? Honest question. I would love to hear a good reason.

Holy priest has insane burst aoe healing with seedling plays (GS yourself and prem of piety), should check it out

MW monk needs a brez or some sort of util like that (Lust, shorter CD mass dispell, decurse). Damage feels reeeally low even after the buffs and considering how DPS is directly tied to healing with MW, it's pretty rough. A big concern is that they might take the same direction HPal did mid last xpac, becoming slightly more cast focused. WIth enveloping mist procs, chi burst, sheilun's gift and with upcoming reworks potentially making jade lightning viable again it's kinda scary. I really like where it's at with fistweaving, it's by far the most fun healer rn imo and I hope they don't stray away from it more and more over time.

I always liked how straight forward H priest was. In the past it felt like there was enough utility to make it worth bringing one. Hopefully they get some help to keep them competitive in mythic plus.

Rank tanks to heal 😛 having alot of fun on brewmaster, but curious to hear where healers see brew 😂

rdruid with a good team in high keys, you can make it work. With your average pug in a +2 you'll wipe over and over and over cause no one will ever use a defensive or stop anything or really even do any of the mechanics.

Resto shaman my beloved

So just to let you know how this feels to watch as a holy priest -> your class sucks and is for noobs. Lovely

The half second pause and zoom in for each placement is such a funny attempt at mounting tension.

All the YT rankers need to collab and start putting priest in F tier untill they get an interupt. I pugged to 3k last season as holy and it was terrible just standing there watching a cast go off because PS was on CD and Chastise won't stun an elite.

They really need to fix priest utility. Bringing almost nothing to the table in M+ feels real bad. No kick, no aoe stop (bur ing talent points to make fear viable sucks), no real personal defensive.

Could you talk more about resto druid? personally i feel the gameplay have shifted so much with the grove guardians they barely feel like a 'hot'- healer anymore. After multiple reworks during DF it's very sad to see druid degrade and become after almost every single one.

Ive been playing resto Druid and I think they can heal, but it takes insane amount of mental energy, super fast execution, management of tree of life, and swiftness convoke the spirits. I think restó is hard, and that’s why people don’t consider it good. there is ALWAYS something you SHOULD be pressing and it’s not always obvious and with its pretty high haste. I think restó is suited for people with adhd and just want to press buttons really fast. If there’s always hots up even when they’re at full hp no one will drop unless they get shrekt by several things at once. Become a HOT BOT!

I play a holy paladin, and I will tell you, in 10+ mythic pugs, its EXTREMELY painful, and we've been nerfed by 6% recently, and our lack of any significant ability to heal without holy shock (due to being on cooldown, you have 2 stacks) and not enough holy power, you get screwed. Outside of burst healing.. youre toast for steady incoming damage. Holy shock is weak weak weak for its cooldown and charge limitations, and holy light as well as flash of light being so weak.. its painful when wings or any other cooldown is not available. Also.. the issue is why does voker get a 20% AOE DR cooldown on 2 min cooldown, but our aura mastery is 3 min cooldown with 12% DR? It makes no sense.

nothing bad can ever happen after Growl drops a "alright guys, you know what time it is"

Thanks for sharing your opinion! I'm not that optimistic with Restodruids honestly since we have better alternative slots for that motw. Guardian druids are looking REALLY strong in S1, just slightly worse in taking and dealing damage than protwar but bringing the better utility. In a world where we wont be able to pull off VDH in highkeys, my bucks are on guardian bringing the motw. And IF that vdh comp works out, boomkin seems like a top choice since they're seriously overtuned right now (frost dk type overtuned), thanks to those stupid af hero week buffs (which are mostly based on dps padding. Poor Furywarriors.). I'd love to see how that shapes out, since throughput wise VDH//Boomkin//FrostDK//Aug//Rsham seems to outperform VDH//Boomkin//Arcane//Aug//Rsham and has all the bases covered. Yeah, I'm talking about a season without mages making the meta cut. Yeah, I know its kind of copium. But less copium than assuming Restodrood makes it.

Confusing for a returning player that Jack says disc needs help cause its basically trash and Yumy says A tier..

Idk what people have with Rdruid, good healer and especially in pugs it's good. The only thing this tier list does is making my life harder lol^^ Shaman on the other hand is played totemic mostly, which can result is basically 0 healing and 0 mana in pugs... You guys have this very, very weird mindset of a run where everything works well and people are somewhat decent on their class. That's not the usual pug experience. You need to make a tier list based on "poor" gameplay and "worst case" scenarios. Like an pEvoker is and Rshaman are good with a decent group or a group you have comms with but in a regular pug? That's just not the case. But at least your tier list is not as delusional as dorkis. If you didn't say his name, I'd still think it's some random guy who is not even playing the game.

I love how you are ranking them and commenting on world first key levels. When ain’t nobody in the comments ever coming close to that level of play. Kind of pointless imo

Agreed about Mistweaver damage being beans. They need a damage buff. They're getting a 50% increase to rising sun kick soon at least.

My resto shaman feels great in mythic plus atm; no complaints. My resto druid feels bad in keys, even after the 8% hps buff. Plus, rdruid hero trees are boring.

Remember guys. Most of yall dont push high keys. Just play what you like.

Soo disc in it’s current state and tuning over Hpriest? Yeah no this dude doesn’t know what he’s about

Can't wait to see how far megasett can go in M+. I used to mainheal as pally way back when they were casters. Think I'll try rsham

The druid is in the pit. Totally nerfed, put him in last and avoid ppl bad moments.

Me as a 100% new player who just spent a month learning to play holy priest 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃 Also curious, what do people consider 'high keys'? Like is 7 high? Is 10 high? Or is high like 15...?

Been a restro druid since og vanilla, never had a problem keeping people alive 🤔

Kitty

resto druid is somelike like F ^^ not even close to C hahaha

I love MW right now but agreed, our dmg isnt great. Does that REALLY matter tho? eh. Ring of Peace is great.

Thsi guy didn't play Disci priest to put it in A class...

Rip my favorite healer lol. R druid is trash when I get off my r sham..

Resto shaman has been the most boring healer imo.

Lol, RD can't heal for shit. B 😅

Imagine being S tier and pretty much the easiest heal spec to play. Everyone and their mom is playing rsham

As a shadow priest im fucked.

Dorki needs to do the same with tanks.

wrong on druid, guardian ans boomy are both in very very good spots with boomy getting giga buffs soon too

Putting Rdruid at B when they can’t keep their teams alive because their healing sucks is wild lol

Hpal in B is cap

Resto needs to be fixed, move more power from mastery to raw healing. Hots individually do nothing and stacking them to proper healing state takes too long.

Johnston Villages

Dude said holy priests dont have any AoE healing with a straight face. Cant take anything he said after that even remotely serious. Holy priests are literally the BEST AoE healers🤦

Hi growl this is friends!

Who would've thought that Resto Shaman would be meta again after losing Vesper Totem all those years ago.

Man, I just want old MW back. I hate that all fistweaving is tied to Jadefire Stomp now and requires talenting into.

i want buffs for holy priest so bad. circle of healing is so weak rn it feels like a joke and honestly prayer of healing isn’t far behind in that regard 😭😭

Yes at least we are first healer (shaman) but we'll get nerfed so bad in season 2 and we'll be trash because blizzard just can't make balance : resto druid was the first healer in season 4 DF and now last. Like really wtf lol

Playing disc with low haste stinks. Holy can be archon making halo a pretty short cd with big aoe healing until my gear starts having haste on it. Full crit vers atm

Where’s mage?

Swapped from resto shaman to preservation evoker just because rsham is crazy boring unless you play totemic chain heal

Stroman Brooks

The reason I play pres evoker is 5ppl Lifebind + Communion combo. It's satisfying as hell

the talent where shadow word death procs mind benders is really under valued at the moment and makes the class fell wayy better

They should either nerf resto shaman or buff the others. Most of pugs look after rshaman.

Dude I just want to do M+ without people looking at this list. People gotta stop making thia stupid lists

rdruid main here. Yes, the discord is filled with players who are obsessed about the damage they deal. Yes, we are mostly monkeys

Trash list

Resto shamy is beans and same with warriors. When those classes are on top wow is at its lowest.

Haag Port

I have started as a resto shaman this exp. Having never healed before. Fml. What an eye opener. So much to learn in using the right spells at the right time…. BUT… I am having a fun time learning…

@yumytv can you make one for raid ? tier list this week?

I'm so glad Shaman is my main xD on top of that, Shaman is loads of fun xD

Yeah, ok I will change my main… hello Evoker bye bye druid

thank you for doing a pug list after!

i still dunno why the fuck they have nerfed the pal atm

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I hate to say this but I have to admit it - why no love for disc

Paladin considered as a melee player is already a solid argument to lower is ranking by one, forcing group to takes 2 range DPS.

I am 3 ilvl down on my raids other hpal, and hes doing 400k more hps than me.. also my parse is like a 44 and his is 95+. What am i doing wrong

Does this tier list also apply to mole people enjoying Delves?

Hpal still holding their spot at the top healing in raid and m+ after a nerf literally 99% of the player base won’t even see a difference 😂😂😂

What tanks does every think is best for high keys

People will apply your advice in lvl2 😂

not just with its void thingy and with its guy

I've mained MW Monk during DF S3, skipped s4, came back and it just feels more rough. but I feel like that's a bit more of characteristic of healing overall in this expansion - some heal checks are not for the faint of heart I'll tell ya. Would really like to see an improvement on the absorb shields from celestial harmony and niuzao for dealing with the unavoidable dmg. Decided to switch to tanking with my Warrior this week and just feels a loooot easier tbh, so maybe that's the path for me :D

Waffle kitty says goes

Holy priests in shambles

Rip holy pala iget bencht in LFG

That zoom in lol

thanks

Hi growl