I remember asking my grandmother about when she watched the moon landings. I was kinda surprised when she said she already owned a color TV at that time. She must have had a nice upbringing
Tell ya what - as a newly retired career biomedical engineer, I nominate Shango and bandersentv as the two finest television (and thus electronics in general) technicians and troubleshooters alive. No BS this time. Hands-on and brain-on intuitive understanding. Thanks for the education Shango. 73 OM
Picture and sound after substituting a single resistor you didn't even have to expose. The "replace the caps" crowd are gonna want to burn you as a witch. Fabulous entertainment and great troubleshooting as always. Many thanks for your channel.
Thank you for bringing back a memory. A photo of my brother and me at 4 and 5 years old respectively in 1967. We were sitting in front of this exact set, watching an episode of the wild Wild West. It (the tv) was destroyed by a flood from hurricane Agnes in 1972.
I find Mr. Carlson over done. When I used to help out at my friend's TV shop the name of the game was get it fixed and get the next one on the bench! Can you imagine a TV engineer replacing every cap just for the craic, wouldn't be long going out of business.... Each to his own though.
@@IrishvintageTVRadio Agreed! Shango's videos are funny and entertaining. His narrative is basically him thinking out loud, tracking down problems to get things working.
Sorry to hear about the old Ford Explorer, shango. I actually had my Ford Territory/Explorer on the back of a tow truck two weeks ago today. I snapped the shifter cable on the automatic transmission & was stuck in reverse which the car won’t start in gear. $90 it cost me to have it towed from Woolworths car park to my mechanic 2 blocks away! Also that CRT looks like it needs a good degaussing from laying face down. When I moved house once, I laid my sons CRT set face down on the back seat of the car & the screen went similar to this tv’s screen. This tv looks like the GE roundie you have. 💞xx
Just found your channel today I know nothing about electronics but just love seeing these old style TVs working I had no idea there were still channels they could get
I had a Heathkit GR-371MX I built in 1972. It worked for 27 years but as the picture tube aged it slowly lost focus. I had serviced the unit several times over that period. At first adjusting the focus on the HV power supply worked until it reached the limit, then I modified the focus circuit and got several more months of service. I was unable to locate a picture tube replacement, and I kept it for several years. Finally my need of the space it was taking up, I put on the curb.
I rebuilt my transmission myself for my 2002 Chevy Venture. Only thing I ever did on transmissions was remove the pan and filter, for a fluid drain and fill. Anywho, a planetary gear got chewed up because my clutch packs were worn down to nothing. I installed updated bands, clutch packs, and a few hardened steel upgrades, a solenoid, along with my new hardened steel chains. Cost me about $400 in parts, and a few days work. This was a year and 12,500 miles ago.
We didn't have a tv till late 1962. A huge used black & white Sylvania set. Had to have a converter box to receive our local UHF stations as it was VHF only. Man that was a long time ago!
All local channels are still required to broadcast a Digital signal over the airwaves. Most modern TV's still have the antenna jack. Just plug in that old antenna and scan for channels. Results will vary based on where you live.
That's impressive! The set half-ass worked but for a resistor that was probably cracked in transport. I suspect your tube is heavily magnetized - green screen control affecting red - beam landings so far off guns not hitting right phosphor dots. I had a friend with a 32" Sony where the degaussing thermister blew open - CRT was so magnetized - gray scale wasn't too far off - barely produced any color & color was bad - like your set. I connected Sencore variac to degaussing coil - fade up - fade down - poof - good and correct color!
unlikely,my CTC=16xl has the same type of power setup and the same 18w resistor in the same place ( same resistance ) the thing i noticed is that it gets so hot that it corroded the solder lugs that it was attached to, and the wires going to it ( from the choke, etc ) , the resistor mat be bad, but also , the solder joints may have just gone bad leading to it.
I recently got a Bush A823, delta gun CRT. When I got it home I put my CRT tester on it, very low. I decided to leave just the heaters powered up for 2 days. When I rechecked emission it had risen too over 60%. I always use the rejuvenation button ad a last resort. I have found crts can wake up with use.
We had a delightful friend who collected old TVs and some 35 years ago I remember visiting him in his "home" aka The Betz Museum thinking, "Someday our set at home will be collected and restored as an antique." But then it seemed like nobody cared for this older tech. I honor you Snago for doing this for this sentimental old brand ; ) Nerds Rule!
EiI remember when I was a little boy we’d turn the TV on and a few minutes later the screen would turn on and we’d be watching our shows. Some of those tubes had to warm up before they’d start working. I remember light would leak from behind the tv before the front display would start working.
Amazing a set that has been through a war zone and all it takes is a canned ohm resistor to bring it back! Great diagnostic skills Shango! Love your flat rate diagnostic approach. Thats what separates the pros from the hobbyist.
Hi Shango. Great to see another video. Hate to hear you had transmission problems . I have rebuilt that type, a few time over the years. I always put a shift kit in the valve body. I had an 1987 ranger with the same type about 27 years ago it is still running here in the mountains. Has you can't reply to all comments I will say " Thank you for sharing "
Not sure why this was on my timeline, but very interesting. It's a great feeling to take something broken and unused and let it rise up like a phoenix from the ashes.
Some nice bass on them speakers!! I was getting the bass come though my subwoofer, these big TVs usually sound so much better compared to microscopic TV speakers of today
Back in the early 60's when I was around 8 years old (1962?), one of our neighbors bought an expensive color TV for that time. The color was good but all mixed up. I asked my dad to buy a color TV but he said we'll have to wait a few years as they're not very good. In a few years they'll be improved on. He was right. We did wait a few years to get one, but in the mean time we did get a UHF converter box for our black and white TV. At the time, we only had three channels in Cleveland 3, 5, and 8. when we got the converter we had more channels in the UHF band.
Many years ago, around 1971/72 an old uncle of mine use to repair neighbours tv's and radio's, that itself is nothing particularly interesting, what is was how he did it. First he'd switch the set on and then use a wooden mallet to bang around the top and side of the set, then he'd take the back off pull out the tubes, clean the contacts with a wire brush, put them back in, switch the set on, if it was working that'd be it, repair done and he'd get paid, if it wasn't working he'd give it a few more whacks with a wooden mallet, see if anything loose inside, if this didn't solve the problem he'd tell the neighbour that the tv set was beyond repair and they'd be better off buying another one, he often had a few old working sets that he'd offer to sell them. The old man had no electrical experience or even a soldering iron, if there was a broken wire he saw he'd simply tie it back to where he thought it went, I'd say a good 50% of sets that were brought into him non working were repaired, I'm guessing many of the faults were simply loose tubes or in somecase a blown fuse in the mains plug of a wire had come off the mains plug cord. A lot of portable radio's he mended involved nothing more than cleaning off the contacts where the batteries went, I'm talking nearly 50 years ago in a village in England where less than half the people owned a car and the nearest tv repair shop would have been 20 miles away, the older generation back then would have been clueless about things like that, my uncle was highly respected in the area and was looked upon as a electronics expert.
I just got rid of two Zenith round tube color counsel sets. Both in perfect working condition and not a scratch on them. Cost me 35 bucks to dump them at the village recycle center. Nobody wanted them.
I remember fixing these things as a kid during the 80´s. Pulled them of the streets on garbage day, even during rain. Just clean them up, check the power supply, swap some bulbs, look for burn marks & loose connectors, receive the odd jolt... Then I went from 60´s tv´s to 60´s cars. Always 60-something stuff :)
Beautiful TV i wish I had this 1 for my collection these TVs we're the perfect example of American history when these sets were mass-produced right here in the United States and we were at the Forefront of this technology
Well, sheex! That TV was through quite an adventure, I guess you were too. I was surprised that the TV had good horizontal and vertical, the screen was filled out pretty good. Now to get the color issues sorted out, this would be an awesome restore! No buzzing in the audio as well is a big plus. Great video!
check those jumper wires on the top of the color board, they feed B+ to the two big color tubes, and often corrode. You will know it by the cold power resistors in the plate circuit. I just give them a tiny tug, if they pull right up from the pcb you know there were corroded.
Do we have smoke?? I hope we have smoke! This is why I love your channel!! You are the man!!! I watch Uncle Doug for guitar amps and Sjhango066 for TV's....So long, and thanks for all the fish!!
Chevy vs. Ford. Yeah we argued about that in grade school. Then I learned that whatever vehicle gets you to your destination in one piece is good. And no make never breaks down. Great video of a oldie roundie. It's got your logo on it. 😝 P.S. would like to to see a transmission repair vid.
Do a 1993(ish) curtis mathison CRT color tv sometime? That was my first childhood tv. The story is it survived being struck by lightning (while in use inside) and still worked. My mom put it in my room because they got a new entertainment center and it wouldn't fit. Wasnt hooked up again or working until I was 8. Stopped working when I was 14 (~2007) when I turned it on one morning and all I had was perfect audio and the waste bands of cartoon characters. A strip in the middle of the screen (horizontally) worked perfectly but the rest of the screen had no picture at all and didnt even light up. We decided against fixing it because nobody made that kind of tv much less the parts for it anymore. At least not near me.
This (and part-2) is one of my favorites, Shango. Very exciting and by far much better than what is actually on TV anno 2019. Watching from Denmark, Scandinavia.
All I know about those old sets is the fact that there is some extreme high voltage back there somewhere and that's why the ordinary Joe doesn't mess around in the back of a TV set. Watching this made me very anxious but I watched to the end because it was fascinating!
Question? Why was there so much technology in the older television to work?. I wrote in a comment, I'm old enough remember all this when it was the technology of the day. Look at the Stuff that's in there. This guy knows all this like the back of his hand. Just amazing. To set here and watch is truly fascinating. Thumbs up from Los Angeles. 👍
Debugging a 50+ year old TV using a USB-C FLIR, and reading the manufacturers original manual on your phone you found that someone somewhere else in the entire world uploaded. I love the strange contrast in technology here.
Only the "original" RCA ctc100 did not use rare earth. Rare earth is also the reason there is a tiny phase shift between Q and I in demodulation compared to NTSC from 1954, to match the colours. Rare earth colours deviate in hue from the original phosphors but are much brighter. Remember the NTSC norm was written hand in hand with the development of the picture tube, so the colour matrix definition was written with the physical caracteristics of the original phosphors in mind. They could not change the NTSC norm anymore when rare earth phosphors came out, but the brightness benefits were much greater than the little hue mismatch. When PAL came in Europe, rare earth was the norm and so it was possible to define the colour matrix based on these RE phosphors.
Thanks Telocho for that bit of color TV engineering history, I did not know this. I did observe a mismatch in the color with the early color sets, it had a green tint on color broadcasts. (I worked on RCA CTC-7 to CTC-25 chassis in the mid-1970's). I know RCA modified the color demodulator circuit about 1968 to minimize the color error.
Looks like Wells Gardner made because model number starts with WG. Wards used Wells Gardner up till the 70s. Sears sets of the time were Warwick unless they sourced them from Japan then they were Toshiba or Sanyo. Sanyo later purchased Warwick. Wells Gardner is still in business by the way.
I'm inclined to think it was made by RCA. Back in early 70's, Montgomery Wards sold shock absorbers with the Wards name printed in them. They were identical to Monroe shock absorbers. Many small companies buy their products from major manufacturers (sometimes in bulk) and licensed to sell under their name. Another example is General Mills makes Cinnamon Toast Crunch cereal and a nearby store called 'Save-A-Lot' sells both General Mills Cinnamon Toast Crunch cereal, and another by a company called Kiggins that has Cinnamon Crunch cereal for $1 less than the General Mills brand. I bought both and they're both identical in appearance, texture and taste.
I worked and set up several of those CTC-15's when I was a TV Tech in the mid-1970's. That set definitely looks like RCA made it. I was also surprised that the set still had all the chassis mounting screws and the back panel clips. Those were usually the first things to go when a service man worked on the TV. That 1400 ohm resistor (if my memory serves me right) was mounted along the front of the chassis. It was being over dissipated, it cooked the wires connected to it. I had seen several where the copper leads on the resistor were shedding. About the purity: Those 19" round CRT's were very sensitive to magnetic fields. After setting one up, you could turn the set 90 degrees and the purity would be totally shot. Before trying to set up the purity, you need to do a thorough degaussing. I'm not sure why the green drive is also bringing up the red, it may be due to the purity being so far off. Also, there could be damage to the shadow mask or gun assembly after all the abuse the set took on the way home. If you fix the purity issues and you still have the green/red interaction, I would check the bias voltages on the CRT next. It is not that hard to pull those chassis. You remove the speaker, yoke, and CRT plugs. The tuner assembly mounts to the right backside of the chassis. The hardest thing with that removal is pulling off all of the knobs.
I was of the impression that Wells Gardner built their stuff.I know that Belmont built some of their stuff as I had a circa 1946 Airline and I used a Belmont schematic from an old volume of Riders I found in an antique store some 30 years ago.Best $5 I ever spent.Belmont also built chasses for the "Western Royal" sets.I had one my Dad threw out when I moved from North Bend,Oregon to Roseburg,Oregon in 1987.It was identical to the Airline.
UHF was optional until late 1964 (All-channel receiver act). There were several all-UHF markets, including South Bend, Fort Wayne, Scranton, Bakersfield, and Harrisburg. Several cities at some point before 1964 had a significant big 3 affiliate on UHF, including Tampa Bay, Portland OR, New Orleans, Miami, Buffalo, and Milwaukee.
Common issues with Ford transmission of this time is water getting into the multi-lever position sensor connector. I fixed mine in a '94 Lincoln for about $100.
I repaired a few of these in the early '70s (working in a TV repair shop when I was in high school. Common repairs were failed flyback transformers that dripped out their wax impregnation and tired CRTs. Rebuilt CRTs were about $60 IIRC. I still have my mirror on a tripod for doing setup.
Brought a old Toyota classic beige yr 85 , 75 series 2H LC (old roo shooter rig with the spotlight on roof & T bar welded to driver side mirror bracket ) . . recent from Jerilderie NSW Oz (Ned Kellys old haunt ) for $2600 , It will clean up nice & be riding the Wildman plains again
38:35 I never ever had any doubt that you know what you are doing But at 38:35 its the moment where I know you are BOSS Great videos ! Your "old man grumpiness" humor is absolutely hilarious ! I'll continue watching your videos with delight !
Nice! That set is worth fixing up, and you have a really great start on it, of course the picture will be clearer when cataract is removed, but that can be done later. Good old set to survive the bouncy ride and desert cold!😊😉
@@shango066 , 😁 I'd love to if I had the space for it, and was able to get it to SE Michigan! I have 3 "Roundie's" and several other sets, I am pretty much maxed out!
Very interesting video! Regarding the rare earth issue, Sylvania was the first to introduce it in 1964. Prior to that, the phosphor for the red was red sulfide. One way to tell is to look at the red color bar. Is it a true brilliant red or is it more like a maroon? The brilliant red was the rare earth and the maroon was red sulfide. Also, another way to tell if the CRT is orignal in an RCA is look at the base where it says "RCA Electron Tube Made in USA." If it's an OEM, there would be a numeric date code such as 63-32. This is 1963, 32nd week. If there is a two letter date code, such as "AB," it's a replacement. There is a chart on the web that deciphers the two letter into the actual date. Just use "RCA tube date codes" as a search phrase. This is a really interesting video and I'm looking forward to the next installment.
I think a lot of those CT C15 chassis with built under the RCA name and sold to other companies Sylvania Magnavox Ward's Airline Etc and by the late 1960s a lot of TV makers were doing their own thing not under the RCA name anymore had a Magnavox CTC 15 clone and all the tubes were branded RCA electron tube and they were original tubes
Wells-Gardner used to be the go-to people for custom monitors. That is if they didn't use Electrohome but they were generally much more expensive. The multimeter looks like it's succumbing to the cold...
I'm just seeing the video and I have not watched it but I'm anxiously watching it but I can't help but wonder what the mileage was on the Ford explorers transmission when it failed. That's one of the best vehicles they have made I have read.
Awesome video! ...And over 1h - nice! Pretty good working set "out of the box" except the resistor and color demod but hey, at least most of the capacitors seem to be good. Imagine you changed all of them first and all the work just to throw money out of the window. Diagnose first - the way I like it and the way people can learn from your videos. Throwing parts at it is easy. Same with your Explorer - auto shops (maybe) want to replace the whole transmission but I'm sure you can repair it. I worked on Explorers for 1 month (internship at a place that specialized in Explorer repairs - a LOT of timing chains ... haha). Dan, I hope you make a video about that transmission repair. Thanks.
Regarding the phosphors, GE seemed to deliver a better "red" than other color televisions of the era. I never cared for the early Magnavox total automatic color, it was downright strange with fleshtones. The Sylvania square 25" we owned delivered spectacular color for about ten years, and then it aged to the point where it was just okay.
I stumbled on your video its obvious you are educated in electronics as I am also. It was enjoyable thinking along with you as you troubleshoot this old baby. I wonder if any Korean TVs will still work in 55 years, I doubt Regards very entertaining
I'm picturing a living room in Utah and it has particle board and wood grained vinyl paneling and avocado green shag carpeting and there are waxy trails in the carpet composed of human oils and they lead from the fridge to the microwave to this television and then back to a lazy boy recliner and back and forth up and down the hall to the toilet and back to the lazy boy. This was a case for the Merry Maids!
Wards Airline televisions, audio and appliances were made by GE. Sears electronics and appliances were made by Admiral Western Auto was also Admiral as was Gambles/Skogmo. Admiral sold the same products under their own name, but they made their real money making junk for others to glue their own nameplates to. Sears had higher standards than other retailers, so their products were made to higher quality control standards than the other retailers. Personally, I'm happy that retailers don't have their own "brands" anymore. I'll bet a lot of people wouldn't have bought televisions from Wards and Sears and Gambles and Western Auto if they had known they were GE and Admiral products. LOL. GE made horrible audio and television, Admiral made horrible everything.
Hey Hey! look at it go!!!, when he gets it all set up, we can watch Jackie Gleason in color, while we eat lol ( epic video, I love this stuff, gonna binge a few more )
wards used 2 or 3 letters in the beginning of the model numbers, WG was wells-gardner, BR was belmont, and i think there were some GEN AND GMA models too.Looking forward to the next episode.
Don't think they ever used safety glass on console television sets in most of Europe, not that I've ever seen. In the mid 80s you may have seen the odd set in a cabinet with smoked glass, plastic Infront.. Certainly not gloood to the Tooob though