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Warfare in China BEFORE the First Empire 10,000 BC-221 BC 

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@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 7 месяцев назад
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@Stoic_Zoomer
@Stoic_Zoomer 7 месяцев назад
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@CsStoker
@CsStoker 7 месяцев назад
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@planescaped
@planescaped 7 месяцев назад
@@CsStoker I'd have never been able to quit smoking if I hadn't switched to a vaporizer first. It killed the cravings and withdrawal and was much easier to go off of than tobacco was, mostly because vaping is just no where near as satisfying, lol. Smoked for 7 years, switched to a vape for 3 months, and have quit for 4 years now.
@atuq1843
@atuq1843 7 месяцев назад
Puedes hacer un vídeo sobre la guerra en el antiguo Perú?
@chueyang7312
@chueyang7312 7 месяцев назад
What The Hell
@joshieisparang2882
@joshieisparang2882 7 месяцев назад
Finally, a comprehensive pre-Chinese Empire video! This topic is scarce on RU-vid tbh. Maybe its because of the language barrier plus scarce resources. Keep it up man!
@sproge2142
@sproge2142 7 месяцев назад
It's a 23 minute video so I'm not sure I'd call it "comprehensive" 😅 hopefully this becomes popular so he can make a series going into more depth covering the period.
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 7 месяцев назад
It’s scare a in general because Qin destroyed all historical records before his time
@athena8561
@athena8561 7 месяцев назад
@@jonathanwilliams1065 this is a myth propagated by the Han dynasty to discredit the Qin. Qin Shi Huang had Confucian scholars and some of their works burnt, but he kept a copy of everything that was publicly destroyed. Xiang Yu was the person who actually caused a large loss of literature and history by razing the capital to the ground when he overthrew the Qin.
@jaykaygxd8497
@jaykaygxd8497 7 месяцев назад
You are aware RU-vid is not the only source of information on the internet right
@grandadmiralzaarin4962
@grandadmiralzaarin4962 7 месяцев назад
Agreed. It's also frustratingly rare and underrepresented in academia compared to the over focus on Greco Roman history. It's nice to see more focus on the Far East for a change
@Nextthing
@Nextthing 5 месяцев назад
I am Dutch, 32 years old. I remember browsing the internet as teenager, including RU-vid and I was dying for this kind of content. Chinese history, culture and art was (and even still) feels like a fascinating mystery and a unique perspective on the world apart from the western one. I cherish this.
@油炸薯条-e6y
@油炸薯条-e6y 5 месяцев назад
welcome to China
@Nextthing
@Nextthing 5 месяцев назад
@@油炸薯条-e6y Ni Hao brother!Good fortune to you, from the Netherlands!
@Heaven596
@Heaven596 4 месяца назад
We Chinese want know how west scientists appeared in 1300-1600.
@AngkatanNamwaran
@AngkatanNamwaran 4 месяца назад
If you want more content on China, then I recommend the (Fall of Civilizations podcast, Han Dynasty episode)... Their episode on the Khmer Empire is also great.
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc 3 месяца назад
@@Heaven596 Ancient Greek and Medieval Persian, Hindu and Buddhist science traditions began trickling in.
@mikailkalashnikov1448
@mikailkalashnikov1448 7 месяцев назад
That’s why I love this channel always talking about topics that are important but overlooked a lot
@mikailkalashnikov1448
@mikailkalashnikov1448 7 месяцев назад
@bojose1004 I wish I had more access but I do not speak the language
@ReviveHF
@ReviveHF 7 месяцев назад
Great depiction of the 17th century Chinese common infantry type at 0:09, because China at the time were like the Europeans undergoing transitioning from older Tercio type tactics to newer linear tactics. The proliferation of guns also rendered most low ranking Chinese troops went into battlefield without armour since firearms finally became more cost effective at this point. The Chinese matchlock musket seen in the video, were longer and has bigger buttstock similar to the European counterparts due to the changing trends of the battlefield, and it finally replaced handcannons and earlier Portuguese Arquebuses. The funny thing is throughout 80 years of Chinese film making developments, most Chinese film producers depicted the Ming era and Manchu Soldiers fought like an Ancient armies with Medieval era weaponry due to lack of historical research and also due to huge influence of Wuxia genre(One man with Jedi capabilities mowing down dozens of enemies).
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 7 месяцев назад
It's 16th century Ming northern army, the northern army historically perfered the triple barrel handgun because it can be used as a mace. You are talking about the Qing, which had at most 60% musketeers, China pretty much always had something similar to the Tercios. Warring states Chinese armies had 60% crossbowmen, and fought like a pike and shot manner, with field fortifications and impressive fortresses which were only rivaled in the west with the advent of star forts. The transition to linear tactics only happened after the opium wars.
@gh-lz5oh
@gh-lz5oh 4 месяца назад
中国出现了世界上第一把火枪
@ReviveHF
@ReviveHF 3 месяца назад
@@yujiuyu8817 不只這樣,連服化道具都搞爛。
@bobbiusshadow6985
@bobbiusshadow6985 7 месяцев назад
The Mandate of Heaven is just a nice excuse to overthrow the current ruler.
@somedesertdude1308
@somedesertdude1308 7 месяцев назад
based
@arya31ful
@arya31ful 7 месяцев назад
Mandate of Heaven explained using Zoomer lingo : "You are so cringe ngl Big Sky Daddy depicted you as Soyjak and me as Chad. Get L+Ratio'd, all those Gyatts are mine now." Typing this makes me want to drink immortality elixir.
@theprancingrat
@theprancingrat 7 месяцев назад
Yes, but I'd imagine 95% of people including nobles and other important figures actually believing in this mandate considering how central it is to chinese history. And you know, not everyone is educated and some are stubborn etc, etc.
@The_Art_of_AI_888
@The_Art_of_AI_888 7 месяцев назад
Not just an excuse, but a "divine justification" that everyone (including the usurpers themself) will believe in if he succeeds. "If god/heaven didn't look after them, how would they succeed"?
@TiocfaidhArLa34
@TiocfaidhArLa34 7 месяцев назад
@@arya31ful reading that gave me a fucking stroke.
@mechannel7046
@mechannel7046 4 месяца назад
Liangzhu was definitely china's earliest civilization. It has hallmarks of a civilization including monumental architecture. For example, It produced the world's earliest large scale hydraulic works 5100 years ago
@cyberpunk2978
@cyberpunk2978 Месяц назад
How about 三星堆 sanxingdui?
@BigFoot-w4d
@BigFoot-w4d 7 месяцев назад
What we know so far about China’s first emperor tomb is only the tip of the iceberg. When China is finally ready to open up the tomb, the world will be in a state of shock.
@Schizz76
@Schizz76 2 дня назад
It’s a scam, they won’t open it because the Sinitic frauds are working on it right now so that we believe that their buildings are that of their old emperor’s tomb.
@zxcvbn-i3e
@zxcvbn-i3e 7 месяцев назад
The images of ancient Chinese soldiers you draw are very accurate, as good as or even better than our history textbooks.
@sarahsidney1988
@sarahsidney1988 7 месяцев назад
Love to learn more about China!!
@dmitritelvanni4068
@dmitritelvanni4068 7 месяцев назад
Bro. This is exactly the video I've been needing forever. Maybe this will help inspire me to start over the asian side of my Minecraft world. The old world was so nice, and while the geography is excellent, even better than the old world. I just don't have the inspiration to begin it.
@عنادمطهر
@عنادمطهر Месяц назад
I was hooked from start to finish. This ancient history documentary makes learning about the past so exciting.
@wiktorberski9272
@wiktorberski9272 6 месяцев назад
really interesting story devoted to ancient China. Thank you so much
@grandadmiralzaarin4962
@grandadmiralzaarin4962 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for covering China. It is a delight to escape European centric history for the fascinating history of the Far East
@fatherofhistory
@fatherofhistory 7 месяцев назад
Wow, this video packed 10,000 years of history into 23 minutes! 🤯 I learned so much about the early foundations of China's rise to power. Particularly interesting was the development of bronze casting.
@feje_
@feje_ 7 месяцев назад
Disregard all the pronunciation bs and people hating on u for literally only mentioning that some people believe xia is myth. Its a great vid!
@spaghettimkay5795
@spaghettimkay5795 7 месяцев назад
Its great to see you branching out. Really great video
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 7 месяцев назад
2,656 were executed. "These numbers are probably not meant to be taken literally." Awfully specific math, if being casually vague was their intent, lol...
@thadsul
@thadsul 7 месяцев назад
Sometimes people made these numbers up based on their numerical properties, like being multiples of sacred numbers
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 7 месяцев назад
@@thadsul And sometimes, just maybe, the original scribe was simply telling the truth.
@HenryDam-ob4jh
@HenryDam-ob4jh 7 месяцев назад
2+6+5+6=19 which is a number with special meaning in Chinese divination. Most likely that number was symbolic
@christophernoneya4635
@christophernoneya4635 7 месяцев назад
It really depends on the number system youre working with, a good example is I believe ancient Hebrew used multiples of the number of joints on a hand, and different cultures have different ways to exaggerate "massive number" in the same way we'd use 1000 in English. Tons of little quirks like this make it difficult to say for sure, and many of these especially that old could be lost to history
@arya31ful
@arya31ful 7 месяцев назад
In some cases i dare say that the chronicler just rolled some dice and write whatever number that comes out.
@ac1455
@ac1455 7 месяцев назад
Love the dancing panda at the end. About the 400k army in a battle comment, I’d love to see the process as to how historians would estimate true army sizes. For example, Gaugemala ‘s wiki page states the modern size of the Persian army as high as 250k vs a much higher ancient source account. Wondering how factors such as length of the battle, if it was close to logistic enablers such as rivers, decisiveness of a battle in ensuring victory, closeness to city/dense population areas, mass grave/burial sites, and conscription practices influence modern estimations of ancient battles Edit: also the narrative purpose and temporal closeness of written sources also would play a role
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 7 месяцев назад
Always odd that historians seem to arbitrarily diminish the sizes of ancient armies, based on assumptions of what the population and local resources could presumably support, yet take so many other archaeological evidences at face value, with nowhere near the same level of skepticism.
@aceflaviuskaizokuaugustusc8427
@aceflaviuskaizokuaugustusc8427 7 месяцев назад
Well I remember reading somewhere that said a trick ancient historian used to inflate army sizes was to include woman and children and logistic support such as servants or baggage carriers. But I guess for the Chinese army size account I would think it would be somewhat more accurate as during the Warring States period there was an increase in centralization and bureaucracy. This was because the state that can mobilize the most men for the army will usually conquer the other. So I guess there were extensive and mostly reliable records of these conscriptions and army sizes.
@joerogue231
@joerogue231 7 месяцев назад
​@@aceflaviuskaizokuaugustusc8427Also every able male the age from 16 ( sometimes even younger ) to 60 was under conscription.
@mangalores-x_x
@mangalores-x_x 7 месяцев назад
@@BeingFireRetardant archaelogical evidence are primary sources, in themselves not used by someone to change the narrative. Early writing is invariably mostly propaganda with political intent. From Caesar to Napoleon generals wrote their victory pamphlet for political goals and as propaganda (in these two cases we do know that they did that). So your statement is very weird in that regards. Yes, archaelogists do assume it less likely someone put a vase in the ground to trick them vs. that a politican lied on his propaganda pamphlet. The high figures simply conflict with populations at the time and what seems feasible logistically. Also there are simply conflicts in counting for military purposes. In fact for better logistical planning Eastern armies from ancient Persia to the Ottoman Empire counted everyone and everything in an army aka soldiers, retinue, camp followers and animals(!), not just soldiers. Other effect can be counting all enemy armies in a war while only counting your single army defeating one for your own side. Oftentimes they may not be even malicious, it can occur simply because e.g. theatre numbers were the only numbers known or a chronist did not know that ancient Persians counted army size that way and was proud he had researched Persian sources at all and happy to take the higher numbers. In some cases empires also inflated the might of the armies and played into propagating outlandish army sizes to intimidate their foes. That is also an easy way how you get to giant numbers and the valiant underdog for the just cause deigned by fate to win against any odds is always a strong motif for political reasons.
@Ns.Naruenat
@Ns.Naruenat 7 месяцев назад
Laws in the warring states clearly stated that Chinese males aged 16 and over were required to be drafted into the military. Moreover, at that time China was the most populous country in the world with 40-45 million people. Each state may have a population of up to 7 million people. In addition, the ancient Chinese also had agencies specifically responsible for growing rice for use in warfare.
@Another_opinion_
@Another_opinion_ 7 месяцев назад
Beautifully produced
@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347
@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 7 месяцев назад
The Panda in the end doing the Toothless meme is the icing on this most scrumptious cake!
@brothersfromdifferentmothe8962
@brothersfromdifferentmothe8962 7 месяцев назад
These videos are always great. Always excited for new ones!
@wismsgre
@wismsgre 7 месяцев назад
I am so hyped for this video! I love the history of China, especially the unification wars!
@wismsgre
@wismsgre 7 месяцев назад
Btw, for those that are passionate about this period, there is a creat manga about the warring states era, called Kingdom
@Daruwind
@Daruwind 7 месяцев назад
+1 for Panda in the very end!!!! Made my day!
@minwang52
@minwang52 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for the video, if I have to nitpick, the Zhou is pronounce “Joe” not “shoe”, in fact there is another dynasty in the three kingdom period called “Shu”
@jorge69696
@jorge69696 7 месяцев назад
Why is the romanization of chinese writing so fucked?
@ominousentity1115
@ominousentity1115 7 месяцев назад
​@@jorge69696blame Mao Zedong
@ominousentity1115
@ominousentity1115 7 месяцев назад
Jin she weng < Chin shur hwang (Qin Shi Huang)
@conho4898
@conho4898 7 месяцев назад
​@@jorge69696maybe becoz the Chinese romanization is meant for Chinese to understand and not non-Chinese speakers?
@planescaped
@planescaped 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, I wasn't sure if he was using Wade-Giles or what, but the pronunciations were quite different than I'm familiar with.
@Citychowmountain
@Citychowmountain 7 месяцев назад
Great vid! Also I thank the old school Chinese kung fu movies for making our childhood interesting
@oskardelitz5651
@oskardelitz5651 7 месяцев назад
Great to see you dive into Chinese history! You love to see it. If you plan to do more on that part of history, consider taken 20min to check the basic pronunciation rules of Pinyin, the transliteration of the chinese characters. You can ignore tones for this audience, but for example “Zhou” is more close to the english name Joe than the word shoe. The cherry on the top would be to not use simplified chinese characters, since these weren’t introduced until the 20th century or so. Anyway, love your work!
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 7 месяцев назад
Hey, thanks for the comment. This is well out or comfort zone / field of expertise, so we're actually pretty happy that - besides a few comments regarding wrong architectural depictions - the only substantial criticism seems to be that much of the pronunciation is wrong. We will work on it next time!
@frankhill4358
@frankhill4358 7 месяцев назад
@@SandRhomanHistoryit’s a great attitude you guys have keep up the great work! And I do agree pronunciation is important, of course nobody expects you to pronounce words like a native speaker, but it can get really confusing if Chinese words are pronounced completely wrong. It would be as if I made a video on George Washington but pronounced his name as geh-ore-geh Was-hinge-ton. Even if you’re a native English speaker you might have to do a double take to process what is being said.
@FutureMythology
@FutureMythology 7 месяцев назад
I adore the panda that dances at the end. My curiosity is piqued by the idea of a 40,000-strong army in a battle remark; I wonder how historians get at these estimates. As an example, according to Gaugemala's wiki page, the Persian army was 250k strong in modern times, which is far lower than the much larger ancient source account. Curious about the aspects that impact modern evaluations of historical battles. These include the length of the war, its proximity to logistic facilitators like rivers, the battle's decisiveness in guaranteeing victory, its proximity to cities or densely populated areas, mass graves or burial sites, and conscription practices.
@0animalproductworld558
@0animalproductworld558 26 дней назад
Reminds me of Mulan because of the arts and the peaceful vibe and nature.
@guavaguy4397
@guavaguy4397 7 месяцев назад
I wonder if one day you could cover the economics of the Dutch golden age beyond the VOC?
@richardcook5919
@richardcook5919 6 месяцев назад
Kudos for tackling the thorny question of whether the Zhou and Shang shared a common origin.
@dirckthedork-knight1201
@dirckthedork-knight1201 7 месяцев назад
I hope you end up covering the later period of Chinese history they are very interesting
@DucaTech
@DucaTech 7 месяцев назад
There's more to this than a 20min video can ever cover. Sanxingdui was not even mentioned in this video.
@conho4898
@conho4898 7 месяцев назад
Sanxingdui is not considered part of China proper at the time. It was a separate civilization and culture. I think the video is only talking about how Han Chinese united China and became an imperial power. If we're including Sanxingdui, may as well include Dian, Yelang, Âu Lạc, and all the other Baiyue kingdoms of the south.
@DucaTech
@DucaTech 7 месяцев назад
@@conho4898 Sanxingdui is in Sichuan, that's no where close to the Au Lac or Baiyue. Are you confusing Sichuan with Guangdong & Guangxi?
@conho4898
@conho4898 7 месяцев назад
@@DucaTech no I'm just grouping them as non-Han states. I'm not saying they're close together.
@The_Art_of_AI_888
@The_Art_of_AI_888 7 месяцев назад
@@conho4898 "Han Chinese" did not exist at that period. They consisted and were made up of many different ancient groups of people including the Baiyue (many different tribes). Before that, the Chinese kingdoms/states/empires in the central plain of China considered and regarded themself as "Hua Xia" people which also consisted and were made up of many ancient tribes.
@conho4898
@conho4898 7 месяцев назад
@@The_Art_of_AI_888 "Han Chinese" didn't exist, but Han Chinese languages did exist. When I said non-Han, I meant non-Sinitic speaking nations.
@andreyhempburn
@andreyhempburn 7 месяцев назад
Bronze age china was a Marvel of culture and craftsmanship
@johnpijano4786
@johnpijano4786 7 месяцев назад
Hope you make a video on the new model army to fjnslize your pike and shot armies series. I keep hearing how the NMA is much better than the sweddish batallions during the English civil war
@Thraim.
@Thraim. 7 месяцев назад
I love how confident kings tend to be that comets are good omens for them. Like, how do you know it doesn't foretell the arrival of a new king?
@Wi3rzb0
@Wi3rzb0 7 месяцев назад
Love the topic and the beautiful editing ❤
@meilinchan7314
@meilinchan7314 7 месяцев назад
The pronounciation is terrible. Funnily enough he doesn't mention the new discoveries in Sichuan and Inner Mongolia, especially the impressive stone complex at Shimao.
@Wi3rzb0
@Wi3rzb0 7 месяцев назад
@@meilinchan7314 can you tell me more about new doscoveries please?
@Wi3rzb0
@Wi3rzb0 7 месяцев назад
@@meilinchan7314 can you write something more about those discoveries please?
@binbows2258
@binbows2258 7 месяцев назад
I love this new content, sandrhoman. This is just what I wanted!!
@ralambosontiavina7372
@ralambosontiavina7372 4 месяца назад
Great work !
@pomicultorul
@pomicultorul 7 месяцев назад
same commitment to excellence, thank my friend/s!
@Lena-vw6ye
@Lena-vw6ye 7 месяцев назад
Wow, when you read into Chinese history like this, and it makes you realize that China went through development through these centuries of warring to become an empire. And Now, China as we see it today, is a historically rich culture with many dynasties and teachings taught from the past. It learned about a form of democracy with the mandate of heaven, a form of freedom. They warred with professionalism and had beauracracy. Today, China with its historical experience, truly does have a chance of becoming a shining empire again.
@jin_asap
@jin_asap 6 месяцев назад
They were 1/3 of the world GDP about 300-400yrs ago, before the british sacked them in the opium war. China will return to its former glory. Its GDP has quadrupled in the last 14 yrs. Quadruple!!
@Lulougonz
@Lulougonz 5 месяцев назад
According to our oral history and folk song, our ancestor escaped from the tyrant king, Qin Shihuangdi (221BC) as they were used as a forced labor in the construction of the Great Wall of China. Sinluang village was where once our ancestors lived, and Mahou Taubei ( Minhau in Chinese) was the cave mountain from which our forefathers began their migration. Rongmei Naga people of North East India believed Yunan Province in China to be their original place of origin. According to our oral history , frequent floods, raids from Barbarians and forced labor was the main reason for migration.
@user-pp6dj1hi7p
@user-pp6dj1hi7p 7 месяцев назад
Awesome video
@0animalproductworld558
@0animalproductworld558 26 дней назад
It’s amazing how the evidences lasted for many thousands of years.
@parsarustami774
@parsarustami774 7 месяцев назад
Do a video about persia from Achaemenids to parthians and sassanids. or about their cataphract. they were like rohan of ancient world
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
@عليياسر-ذ5ب 7 месяцев назад
Canaanites: The Middle East is an evil place. They will colonize North Africa, Sicily, Spain and Portugal
@jasons6475
@jasons6475 7 месяцев назад
Great documentary short. But I have to tell you that “Zhou” is NOT pronounced “shoe” like tie your shoe, but rather “Joe” like cup of joe or the biblical name JOEseph.
@yang10095
@yang10095 3 месяца назад
14:55 Why Manchu archer time travel to Zhou's quadriga?
@ミツタニユウ
@ミツタニユウ 4 месяца назад
Last glacial period (70,000-11,000 years ago) Apart from the peoples who entered East Asia before 70,000 years ago, there is no other route into East Asia except via Southeast Asia. The impact of the 130-meter retreat of the sea level on the environment is therefore significant.
@sinoroman
@sinoroman 2 месяца назад
14:50 - why is there a Qing soldier
@sportsfisher9677
@sportsfisher9677 7 месяцев назад
Great job
@dyxifltline
@dyxifltline 7 месяцев назад
That was probably the most accurate criticism of the most recent mummy movie. That did no honor to
@sussybaka6904
@sussybaka6904 6 месяцев назад
Thanks
@GBERTS
@GBERTS 7 месяцев назад
wow! great video!
@frederikbeckers8923
@frederikbeckers8923 7 месяцев назад
Can you make such a video about korea and Finland?
@Jesu0040
@Jesu0040 4 месяца назад
The Shang Dynasty was a cannibal
@0animalproductworld558
@0animalproductworld558 26 дней назад
Wow the chinese have been on the land for such a long time huh.
@weirdofromhalo
@weirdofromhalo 7 месяцев назад
There's quite a few pronunciation errors in this video, but there's also some incorrect use of ancient characters (for example, 战车 is in simplified when it should be in large seal script). A much worse error, however, is citing a textbook from 2006 claiming that the Zhou were a simple continuation of the Shang. This is definitely not true, at least in the current literature (possibly only from the Chinese side), as it's now known that the Shang were far more egalitarian and less hierarchical than the Zhou. The Zhou established patriarchal rule and inheritance, whereas the Shang were matrilineal. There's a bunch of other social and class changes the Zhou instituted and influence they absorbed from the "barbarians" they conquered, but that gets really into the weeds.
@小曲胡吹
@小曲胡吹 Месяц назад
你怎么认为商是母系统治呢?这是不对的。远在商前,中国就脱离了母氏社会了。
@bensonhsu9359
@bensonhsu9359 7 месяцев назад
good video but the prononciation of zhou is so wrong.
@greggpennington966
@greggpennington966 4 месяца назад
Try to imagine remaining in a chariot like that while moving at the full speed of the team of horses. Now, imagine trying to remain on the chariot while shooting an arrow , throwing a spear or swinging a dagger-axe. An amazing feat to be certain.
@noriakikakyoin6557
@noriakikakyoin6557 4 месяца назад
people in chariots were nobles, and they have the whole of their lifetimes trying to practice that lol
@greggpennington966
@greggpennington966 4 месяца назад
@@noriakikakyoin6557 It only takes one rock big enough, and '...
@seedo201
@seedo201 4 месяца назад
The dancing panda in the end😄😄
@0.0LEE-n8i
@0.0LEE-n8i 2 месяца назад
It is disgusting that so-called Western historians would rather take Homer's epic and King Arthur as history than believe in the remains of ancient cities from the Xia Dynasty in China.😅
@54032Zepol
@54032Zepol 7 месяцев назад
Another great video! Keep up the great content and can't wait for more videos on ancient china or ancient java or ancient Vietnam or even ancient India!!
@MylesFCorcoran
@MylesFCorcoran 7 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@dailm8056
@dailm8056 4 месяца назад
There is a very obvious error in this video, and it was intentional The Shang Dynasty was not the first dynasty in China at all. The Xia Dynasty was the first dynasty in China The Xia Dynasty was not a void dynasty as he said except for historical documents. There are no ruins to prove it. On the contrary, there is a huge city ruins in the village of Erlitou, Henan Province, with huge city walls, city arterial roads, eight palaces and many noble tombs unearthed in one corner of the city, as well as bronze workshops and weapons, jade, pottery, and more. The urban underground drainage pipe network must be made of ceramics. The ruins of this city date back to 3,800 years ago, which is obviously 500-600 years earlier than the last capital of the Shang Dynasty, "Yin Ruins". Moreover, this site was first discovered in 1976 and has been excavated for more than 50 years now. This site is very famous in the Chinese archaeological community. Although it does not have a systematic text unearthed like the Yin Ruins, it also has 500 pottery words, which is obvious. It was the last capital of the First Dynasty of China, because the location of this area and the time of the city's decline are consistent with historical documents in C14 You unilaterally avoided this important site and chose to skip it directly, saying that the Shang Dynasty was the first dynasty in China. This is obviously a very amateurish approach.
@ottoappocalyse4085
@ottoappocalyse4085 4 месяца назад
The error goes beyond that. At 17:19 in the video, if they had a slight understanding of Chinese, or even flipped through Chinese encyclopedias, they would not have made such factual errors. The enemies of the Western Zhou Dynasty were the "Canrong" tribes from the northwest region of China, rather than the nomadic nomads on Mongolian grass (at that time, there was not even a Mongolian ethnic group).
@dailm8056
@dailm8056 4 месяца назад
@@ottoappocalyse4085 yes it's interesting People who don’t understand Chinese come to make videos about Chinese history. There is no need to refer to ancient Chinese documents, nor to go to Chinese history museums, nor even to read China’s annual archaeological papers and reports. He only has to rely on his own prejudices and imagination.
@ottoappocalyse4085
@ottoappocalyse4085 4 месяца назад
@@dailm8056 I directly raised the error mentioned above to the video author four hours ago, and now the comment has disappeared. Only my message under your comment survived.🙃
@TheFactsMan
@TheFactsMan 2 месяца назад
Make a perisan version of this.
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 2 месяца назад
Hope you continue these, eager to see videos about the Han Dynasty and onward.
@arturowagner4728
@arturowagner4728 7 месяцев назад
Best video on this subject I've seen!
@gan247
@gan247 7 месяцев назад
Great content, but a couple of notes on the pronunciation: Qin : Chin (where name China originated) Zhou : Jou (not quite the ‘j’ sound, but close. Anything Chinese that starts with ‘z’ can be pronounced with the ‘j’ sound)
@felisasininus1784
@felisasininus1784 6 месяцев назад
A native English speaker will pronounce "jou" as "jew". 😂 Use "joe" instead.
@gan247
@gan247 6 месяцев назад
@@felisasininus1784 You're right. I didn't think of that. Thanks!
@宋志鹏-z6e
@宋志鹏-z6e 3 месяца назад
Qin Shi Huang's clothing is not quite right. The formal attire for the Son of Heaven (a title for the highest ruler of a unified Chinese dynasty) used for ceremonial purposes has had a fixed color and style for thousands of years. The upper part is black, representing the heavens, while the lower part is yellow, representing the earth. The edges and the middle of the clothing use red, representing humanity, with a color scheme similar to the German flag. The left shoulder has a red circular sun emblem, and the right shoulder has a white circular moon emblem. Additionally, the attribute of the Qin dynasty is water, and in China, black represents water.
@onlyyoucanstopevil9024
@onlyyoucanstopevil9024 7 месяцев назад
AMAZING
@martjnmao6808
@martjnmao6808 7 месяцев назад
感谢做了中国视频 Though I'd be nicer if you finished the thirty years war series haha
@ylstorage7085
@ylstorage7085 7 месяцев назад
"Zhou", the second dynasty, is pronounced like "Dro" in the word "Drove"
@Xinnmg
@Xinnmg 7 месяцев назад
I think it close to chew
@ylstorage7085
@ylstorage7085 7 месяцев назад
@@Xinnmg wait, am I crazy? how do you get the "ch" sound from a "z"
@Xinnmg
@Xinnmg 7 месяцев назад
@@ylstorage7085 It is not English, it is pinyin, a latin writing system of Chinese.
@felisasininus1784
@felisasininus1784 6 месяцев назад
​@@Xinnmg No it's more like "Joe", something between "Joe" and "Dro", without the obvious R. In standard mandarin at least. It is completely different in other Chinese/Sinitic languages. For example in Cantonese it's "Zau", like "cow".
@felisasininus1784
@felisasininus1784 6 месяцев назад
​@@Xinnmg If written in pinyin, it should instead be "Zhou".
@ChristnThms
@ChristnThms 7 месяцев назад
It's interesting that the history of China seems to have a collectivist lean going back to the prehistoric period. I tend to not believe in ethnocentric traits, especially in the area of psychological or mental development. But it's hard to hand wave thousands of years of a trend.
@OpossumSupremacist
@OpossumSupremacist 7 месяцев назад
It's amazing how uncritically people take the propaganda of the cultural revolution and Chinese revisionist history to be more collectivist and that the CCP is the natural progressive result of their history. It's almost like that's a helpful narrative for the ruling class 🤔
@workingproleinc.676
@workingproleinc.676 7 месяцев назад
China was always faszinating for me since Yugoslavia-China Relations. Particular how their society and history is structured. Thx for the video.
@blackhawkdown342
@blackhawkdown342 7 месяцев назад
A very cool look into early chinese history and warfare. I had no idea chariots were so important, it seems like it would be much easier to use riders mounted on horses, rhinos, or really another other animal. By comparison a chariot needs a lot more work to make a single effective fighting unit as the wagon/harness needs to be built and 3 men trained in specialized roles. Infantry focused armies definitely seem easier to raise, train and maintain.
@nulnoh219
@nulnoh219 6 месяцев назад
Ancient tank company
@mxn1948
@mxn1948 4 месяца назад
there was no stirrup yet, so riding a horse, especially for any extended period of time was difficult. plus war was ritualized at the time, there was no real need for calvary, conducting flank attacks and sneak attacks were considered cowardly and unbefitting of nobles. it was only later with the increasing threat from the nomads and warfare becoming "real" rather than a ritual, that china got rid of chariots and created cavary.
@stefthorman8548
@stefthorman8548 2 месяца назад
horses at the time were small, and had weak spines, not partially ridable until one of the dynasties stole some "heavenly horses" with an large army, from an "Greek" city state (left overs from alexanders conquests) in central asia
@FinancialIndependenceEindhoven
@FinancialIndependenceEindhoven 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the very nicely produced video! Maybe too late to fix now, but the Zhou dynasty is not pronounced as “shoe” but more like “joe”.
@jrwolf4955
@jrwolf4955 12 дней назад
I don't think chariot technology was introduced from the West, because our iron-making technology matured much later than that of the West and was still in the Bronze Age.
@Schizz76
@Schizz76 2 дня назад
Cry about it Sinitic. You all steal, historically and even today. Know your place Chariots did not need any important metals, it only required horse domestication which the Sinitic body would be unable to achieve. Your weaker bodies required the stronger Mesopotamian frames to develop such chariots.
@LVPUSTrismegistus
@LVPUSTrismegistus 5 месяцев назад
I always found the art depicting pre bronze age peoples quite weird, is so rare see that cultures and think that this are the ancesters of chinese people, they look so diferent.
@edisonsoh226
@edisonsoh226 4 месяца назад
We called ourselves 黄炎子孙. Meaning the children of Huang and Yan. It is believed that the Yan is tribal people whose clan were from south China. Their costume would have been closer to the one depicted in the video around 4000BC. Also it makes sense that before garment was invented or being able to mass produce, Mankind would used animal skins or hair as clothes. As the fabric making technology advanced, only then they were able to slowly switch from animal skin to full fabric made garment like those cloth seen in China around 2000bc.
@lipan2757
@lipan2757 7 месяцев назад
8000 soldiers and 800 horses and 1000 chariots are what is unearthed. He had 2 million clay soldiers made for him
@istvansipos9940
@istvansipos9940 7 месяцев назад
11:39 "look! Weird... things in the sky doin'... stuff. OBVIOUSLY an omen with exactly this and that meaning. Because magic." sigh...
@StoneCBears
@StoneCBears 7 месяцев назад
The dancing panda. Equal to Heaven and Earth. Wukong is jealous!
@wilsonli5642
@wilsonli5642 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for making this video and shedding some light on pre-imperial China! I'm curious, at 10:23, it's implied that not all Shang soldiers were armed with bronze weapons. What other material would their weapons have been made of? Also, some notes in case you plan on making more videos about Chinese warfare: the "ZH" consonant pair in modern Chinese pinyin is pronounced closest to the "J" sound in English, maybe "Dsch" if you prefer German, or "ДЖ" in Russian. So "Zhou" would be pronounced like the name "Joe", more or less. The "X" consonant is closest to "SH" in English, and the "Q" is closest to "CH" as in "chicken".
@Rorschachqp
@Rorschachqp 6 месяцев назад
It’s weird to call the guy Qin Shi Huang. Qin Shi Huang Di means Qin Empire’s First Yellow Emperor. Qin Shi Huang means Qin Empire’s First Yellow.
@jrwolf4955
@jrwolf4955 12 дней назад
The verse quoted at 15:47 is not a description of war, it is a love poem“Crying Ospreys”. Here is its translation: Merrily the ospreys cry, On the islet in the stream. Gentle and graceful is the girl, A fit wife for the gentleman. Short and long the floating water plants, Left and right you may pluck them. Gentle and graceful is the girl, Awake he longs for her and in his dreams. When the courtship has failed, Awake he thinks of her and in his dreams. Filled with sorrowful thoughts, He tosses about unable to sleep. Short and long the floating water plants, Left and right you may gather them. Gentle and graceful is the girl, He'd like to wed her, the qin and se (1) playing. Short and long the floating water plants, Left and right you may collect them. Gentle and graceful is the girl, He'd like to marry her, bells and drums beating. I suggest you search for the Chinese pronunciation of this poem, even if you don't understand Chinese. Even without background music, the rhythm and mood of this poem are very good. The text reading is as good as singing. This is one of the classic masterpieces of Chinese poetry.
@VitalEwe
@VitalEwe 2 месяца назад
18:35 general iroh Anyone?
@robbchew2260
@robbchew2260 7 месяцев назад
Good info in video but the pronunciation of Zhou and Xian was totally off.
@redhidinghood9337
@redhidinghood9337 7 месяцев назад
I was listening to this without looking at the video and I for real thought you were saying Shu instead of Zhou untill past half of the video I looked and saw Zhou written. Zh is pronounced as "j" in english. I don't mean to be rude but the pronunciations in this vid were very bad. And I don't mean the tones or stuff like that - I'm not a Chinese speaker myself, but a simple pronunciation check using google translate takes seconds and can help you say something in the ballpark of what it should sound like.
@romyneri3699
@romyneri3699 2 месяца назад
Zhou is pronounced as joe instead of shoe.
@Uberdude6666
@Uberdude6666 5 месяцев назад
10:26 So what was the poor soldiers' equipment made of? Stone? Its facinating how "China" after the period shown in this video, has been more or less the same state (I guess the Qin-empire was the first time the idea of a "unified China" came into existence?) Yes I know there were a few civil wars, warring states-periods and changes of dynasties. But its more like the same state that has gone through several iterations and built itself up gradually, rather than a series of different states and empires succeeding each other, like in other parts of the world. Its so consistent, like the same council of ministers kept China on the same course throughout several dynasties and emperors. Which I suppose is what happened, isn't it.. Got to wonder though, how much of this is actually true, and how much is fabricated history to give the later dynasties more legitimacy? Also its interesting how the chinese state managed to keep itself together all this time. Rather than being replaced by a rival power when it fell, it got back on its feet under new management every time. Was this because all the other independent states around China was really just copying chinese state-building? So the "legacy" of the empire was so valuble that it was better to proclaim yourself "the next chinese empire" rather than replace it with something new? Or was it more like a Persian situation, where you had the same bureaucracy-system and infrastructure, which was just taken over by various conquerors and emperors?
@ottoappocalyse4085
@ottoappocalyse4085 4 месяца назад
Before you learn Chinese and read some official history books written in Chinese, it is best not to assume that "Chinese historical poetry is homogeneous, continuous, and uninterrupted". The construction of institutions and the development of productivity are closely related. The "ghost and god" ideology of the Shang Dynasty gave rise to a culture of human sacrifice, oracle bone inscriptions, and drinking. The highly developed bronze smelting technology left behind a large number of exquisite and huge bronze artifacts (try searching for "Houmu Wuding" and "Siyang Fangzun") and strengthened the country's military power, further concentrating power. The Zhou Dynasty overthrew the Shang Dynasty and learned from it. It developed the "ritual education" and "patriarchal system", using etiquette to restrain the common people and clan to restrain the royal family. Based on these two systems, it implemented the "enfeoffment system" to expand its territory and eliminate enemies while ensuring the stability of the royal family. As a result, China's territory was greatly expanded. Due to underdeveloped productivity, the "well field system" is implemented economically, with limited intervention in agricultural production and direct taxation. Although this method of taxation is efficient, it can only be used for relatively small economic scales. The Qin and Han dynasties ended the Zhou dynasty, and the people and rulers who experienced the Spring and Autumn and Warring States periods were unwilling to bear this kind of rebellion anymore. Therefore, they must pursue further national unity, material and spiritual aspects. So the "emperor" system was born, with a more stable inheritance system called the "legitimate eldest son inheritance system", a selection system for talents recommended by local officials called the "censorial system", a refined government balance system called the "three officials and nine ministers system", a vast road network called the "galloping road", a "land reclamation system" led by the central army, and a "land private ownership", "salt and iron state-owned", and "unified coinage rights" based on developed economies. The university "Taixue" established in the capital established senior officials to serve as the president, with the "Confucian ideology" centered on cultivating physical and mental harmony and family governance of the world as the national ideology. The emperor regularly held scholar conferences to discuss the "White Tiger View". Meetings and so on. However, the excessive emphasis on ideology in the Han Dynasty also led to the overthrow of the Han Dynasty by the most famous (not the most talented) Confucian scholar, Wang Mang, and the establishment of a "new" dynasty. However, his retro behavior (using old economic, diplomatic, and military systems) brought huge economic and humanitarian disasters, and the people who could not survive rebelled one after another. In the end, among the various rebels, another distant family member, Liu Xiu, rebuilt the country and still named it the "Han" dynasty to show his identity and legitimacy. The failure of the "New" dynasty proved that China was not static, otherwise its retro policies would not have caused so much destruction that they spawned a large number of opponents to overthrow it. Of course, the "Han" dynasty established by Liu Xiu was vastly different from the previous "Han" dynasty that was replaced by the "New" dynasty. As for where the difference lies, let those curious individuals who are truly interested in Chinese history discover it. Perhaps try starting by personally searching Wikipedia (a better suggestion is to use a machine to translate your own questions, then search on the Chinese "Baidu" encyclopedia, and then translate those Chinese back to read, with serious advice from a Chinese person)
@mxn1948
@mxn1948 4 месяца назад
thats because since the han dynasty it was ingrained into Chinese thought that if you wanted to be a ruler, your goal was the entirety of china. any who merely want to control a small state was seen as illegitimate by well...everyone, meaning you had no right to rule, meaning anyone can and should rise up and take your place. any invaders that conquered china still needed to rule the place, and since china already already has a established system, the invaders just used that and so china broke but always came back together.
@evolution686us
@evolution686us 4 месяца назад
Mandate of Heaven.
@clintmoor422
@clintmoor422 7 месяцев назад
this was really interesting. thank you. personally, i didn't know much about china. your video taught me a lot of new stuff. this also provides necessary context to what happened in India, Mesopotamia and Egypt which all were somewhat ahead in comparison to China, at least in my view. China seems a bit more on the rural side with almost no cities and no major enemies.
@athena8561
@athena8561 7 месяцев назад
idk how you can watch this and get an idea that china was behind the other early civs. They had an incredibly advanced bearucracy, large armies, huge cities and larger populations. It took Rome for the rest of the world to catch up to China
@ZxZ239
@ZxZ239 7 месяцев назад
Dude what are you talking about, Chagan, Beijing etc were often the largest cities for hundreds of years throughout human civilization, and China itself had most of the population for most of recorded human history as well
@ZxZ239
@ZxZ239 7 месяцев назад
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities_throughout_history litreally search the word "China" see how it dominates..... rural my ass
@perrytran9504
@perrytran9504 7 месяцев назад
@@ZxZ239 China did become a powerhouse later in history, but it's also true that its civilization started off less urbanized than other ancient civilizations. Chang'an only just became relevant with the rise of Qin, and there is a big jump between that and the Medieval Chang'an.
@perrytran9504
@perrytran9504 7 месяцев назад
Ancient China has some interesting parallels to late Medieval/early Modern Europe. Unlike some other periods of peaceful stagnation, the China of this time was contested by warring states which spurred advances in technology, military theory, and social organization. The main difference of course was that Qin eventually defeated the other states, but no European dynasty managed to conquer every other rival, even if some got closer than others. Makes you wonder what could've been if there was a complete and legitimate "second Rome" in Europe - something tells me it would've fallen into the same pitfalls of Qin in suppressing ideological discourse (especially if it arose after the Protestant reformation.)
@biomuseum6645
@biomuseum6645 7 месяцев назад
Where do you take your drawings from?
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 7 месяцев назад
We pay artists to create them. The charaters / chariots / soldiers are pretty much all commissioned pieces. the backgrounds are mostly liscenced from various platforms.
@LeoConklin
@LeoConklin 7 месяцев назад
Does anyone know some of the background music used????
@jianxiinlee7386
@jianxiinlee7386 4 месяца назад
我觉得在龙山文化和河姆渡文化后面要加上二里头,这个被认为是商早期至夏晚期的王都遗址,可能不是夏朝的遗址,但有这个可能
@عليياسر-ك9ظ
@عليياسر-ك9ظ 2 месяца назад
Question: Do the Han people share DNA with the Mongols, Scythians, Aryans, Koreans, Manchus and Japanese? Are they brothers?
@jianxiinlee7386
@jianxiinlee7386 2 месяца назад
@@عليياسر-ك9ظ 汉族人和藏族人以及羌族人是同源的,汉族人中的北方汉人和游牧民族有通婚
@andreyhempburn
@andreyhempburn 7 месяцев назад
Hey, Chinesisch sprächende Schwiizer hie, falls dich interessiert "Zhou" werd wie tschau uusgsproche aber met d und o, also "dschou". Intonation vergessemer mol,lol. Großartigs Video, daumen hoch wie immer
@MrMiller2048
@MrMiller2048 7 месяцев назад
Xi’an 西安 is pronounced Xi an not Jin Yang. 😂
@chriskrahn9213
@chriskrahn9213 7 месяцев назад
Great video. Weird to hear certain things. Shu? Why does he keep saying Shu? Ooh it's the Zhou. Zh oe, sort of.
@MrMiller2048
@MrMiller2048 7 месяцев назад
Yeah I heard the pronunciation in the video I find it funny, since I am from the city Xi’an.
@mrwtfwhy
@mrwtfwhy 7 месяцев назад
pinyin is quite hard to read aloud correctly if you don't know the actual words in chinese.
@Shin_Lona
@Shin_Lona 7 месяцев назад
​@@mrwtfwhy Wade-Giles isn't much better. 😆
@mrwtfwhy
@mrwtfwhy 7 месяцев назад
i've never even heard of the wade-giles system before somebody mentioned it in another comment.
@rococoart
@rococoart 3 месяца назад
Do you pronounce "zhou" as "shu"?
@ThomasBarsegian-co3du
@ThomasBarsegian-co3du 7 месяцев назад
Jin ane,no it's she-an(xi-an) old Chang-an.... it's zenith was under the TANG (618-755) then the An-Shi rebellion brought it to it's eventual end
@wu2087
@wu2087 4 месяца назад
旗子上的字用繁体字更合适,也会更漂亮……
@CannibaLouiST
@CannibaLouiST 7 месяцев назад
14:47 LOL simplified chinese in bronze age chariot is massive fail dude
@hiimryan2388
@hiimryan2388 6 месяцев назад
This. We have surviving examples of zhou dynasty characters and yet bro still used simplified Chinese
@MisleadingCrumbs
@MisleadingCrumbs 7 месяцев назад
great video! are you planning to do more videos on chinese history? anyone have any suggestions for china focused channels?
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