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With the latest Rework to Hydroid, he has risen from the depths of the ocean and has took the meta by storm. Now considered a God-Tier warframe, dominating the entire game, and offering insane levels of damage and armor reduction. However, what is really the main purpose behind a rework? And how does a rework become successful? Today let's discuss the main reasons for a Rework and figure out whats the main goals behind them.
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@NovaUmbral 7 месяцев назад

Fellas! Sorry about the small typo at the beginning, I couldn't be bothered to render again :p The sources have been linked in the description like always.

@hothstorm 7 месяцев назад

Excalibur slide attack blinds cost 25 each. They have never been free

@NovaUmbral 7 месяцев назад

On initial rework they were, which is why I had the title of the intro 16.9 Excalibur revisited

@teddybonzo8460 7 месяцев назад

One thing i dont like about warframes community is their passive aggressiveness to updates like they support the game with money frequently, its a free game and the updates are good asf and make sense. This might be the only game next to COD that has a nitpicky community but we dont have pay warframe💀. Lets just appreciate and show love when we can. Solid video but the passive aggression made me ick a bit

@Sfzgxd 7 месяцев назад

You forgot to mention that tidal surge now groups enemies. Other than that stellar content as always.

@hothstorm 7 месяцев назад

@@NovaUmbral 80% sure that it was full cost on rework and the only note i found is them lowering the cost, but it was included with a nerf so its possible i'm wrong.

@BalaDeSilver 7 месяцев назад

18:00 Sea water actually corrodes vessels by galvanic corrosion, actually. It's not just erosion, but actual corrosion.

@blueray2174 7 месяцев назад

One thing have to disagree is his themeing, OG Hydroid had 4 water abilities and 2 half pirate abilities, now he's got 2 half pirate half water abilities, one water ability and one pirate ability as well as a thematic and useful passive, so while i do agree that it would have been cool to have puddle actually do something as he is right now he's got more than enough to the point the puddle would probably bloat the kit, special mention to the fact he's now one of the best new players Frames in the game.

@bintangbachtary6651 7 месяцев назад

Yeah the reason hydroid rework being the way it is is because of yareli, that's why DE reimagining his entire theme while keeping the pirate and why puddle imo will not fit into his kit and theme.

@urlegoguy 7 месяцев назад

I used to main hydroid and get shamed for it, this makes me happy :))

@celestialkitsune 7 месяцев назад

Bet this feels cathartic now. I mained Saryn before her reworks, just because of her toxin based playstyle.

@sircombat3259 7 месяцев назад

If only it can happen to Inaros too! I love Inaros mostly cuz of his egyptian theme- but his gameplay, while pretty funny to use, still feels boring

@Plem_xo 7 месяцев назад

@@sircombat3259 Pretty fun but boring. Hm. Interesting

@muranmana2355 7 месяцев назад

@@Plem_xocool concept, but nothing happens except high survavibility, which fits his concept, but that's only it. His shadow spawn is a cool concept but his augment can't even band-aid that. His 3 too, it's a Wyrm ability precept on while Beyblading Slash proc.

@user-hf3hd3pw1p 7 месяцев назад

I was one of the original 7 wukong mains… welcome to the “used to be bad now it’s praised” club

@BZUltimix 7 месяцев назад

Hydroid is the only frame that can fully armour strip with anything he does, and ironically/coincidentally by using the same status effect that nerfed him in the past (Update 27.4) I'm glad that I didn't get rid of my "free" Hydroid Prime when DE finally made his trailer lol 👍

@BlueBolt5000 26 дней назад

Same here. I'm glad I kept my free Hydroid Prime too.

@Stormandreas 7 месяцев назад

I'm glad there are other creators echoing the same thing I've been saying about Undertow and Plunder, great work Nova!

@NovaUmbral 7 месяцев назад

And you’ve done a great job the same, wonderful video!

@RBRSC 7 месяцев назад

Yeah, the 1 is tremendously buffed (arguably one of the top 5 in the game now and probably only fighintg with Nourish as a top Helminth ability). 2 QOL is nice. 4 is .... underwhelming, but an improvement. Plunder is a severe step down from Undertow (both as an effective ability, and as the synergistic centre of his kit). And even if this were a whole new frame just released without any history to it.... a weirdly redundant ability that anti-synergies with his passive. And an armor bonus that is effectively meaningless (an unmodded Grendel will still have like 4 times a fully Plundered Hydroids eHP)

@nobodyscomment929 7 месяцев назад

@@RBRSC Plunder allows Hyrdoid to permanently armor strip via max corrosive procs which is only possible thanks to his passive, how is that not synergistic? Also, in my opinion, undertow was a horrible ability that really had no purpose being in Warframe with it fast-paced and fluid movement. Being a literal puddle on the ground with a crappy movement mechanic was awful.

@PetroleumJellyJuggernaut 7 месяцев назад

@RBRSC did u really just say it's competing with nourish????

@RBRSC 7 месяцев назад

@@nobodyscomment929 His max corrosive procs can come from anywhere. But when you 100% armor strip... Corrosive is the worst damage type to actually have. As referenced by Stormandreas, this synergy is also generally pointless. An armor stripped enemy is dead before the procs wear off so Permanent vs Temporary does not contribute to an actual effectiveness (up until it works on Archons or Eidolons, which it does not). They're also prettymuch dead even without that bonus damage buff too as that goes. Which leaves the ability as an armor buff that is a ton of setup to get and has a mediocre actual benefit because Hydroid isn't statistically speaking, any sort of chunky health frame. II'm not going to do an in-depth on how Undertow worked. But your argument means that Mesa is also terrible, and Assimilate Nyx. If you don't know or grasp the concept of toggling an ability on and off thats on you. You could pretty easily puddle drop onto enemies, quickly yank anyone else in sight in with the melee button, pop out and do a heavy attack on the now gathered enemies before. The only real problem with dashing variant was the 2 pushing people out as well, and they specifically fixed that in the rework.

@Purturtur 7 месяцев назад

Honestly undertow and tidal surge being on the same button with tap and hold would have been fantastic

@ReeceRacc 7 месяцев назад

Or just activate to turn into a puddle, and moving would turn you into a wave

@BeeBeeBeeLol 7 месяцев назад

They don't want to add pilfering swarm into his base kit because that would bleed too much into Nekros. Nekros doesn't have to build for it, Hydroid does. Plunder contributes to the "pirate" theme at face value now. Either way, the hydroid rework was aiming to do one thing and one thing only, Bring him to the end game. They did that. You can either just sit there and spam tempest barrage away all day if you find that fun or you can take advantage of plunder and buff your weapons. 2 methods of enjoyment + ease of use + power fantasy easily checks all the marks like you said, If you find it boring well, that's on you lol. That's why there are 50 warframes and not just a warframe that has roar, eclipse, nourish absorb+its augment all in one. The spice of life my guy, i'm sure you know what it is.

@somedude5819 7 месяцев назад

His complaint is that hydroid's thematically kinda got shafted over, which, as a hydroid main before his rework, he kinda did. Go look at his prime trailer. Undertow being gone kinda takes away from it, no? They should've kept it in, AND added plunder.

@dragconen 7 месяцев назад

@@somedude5819 Undertow never worked well for me even with max range when I used his two enemies would fall out that aside undertow took away most of what we think warframe is about that being the movement system and being unable to use my weapons loadout. I still find warframe so enjoyable and a large part of that is using my guns and melee while using the movement system and sitting in a puddle just made me want to use a different frame.

@theta-rx2 7 месяцев назад

I actually would argue that the hydroid rework was kinda really good, like he is not just a weapons platform, he has also remained the cc that made him who he was. I could only really see something like undertow staying if it became highly mobile with it swimming through the ground, but warframes with an integral part of their kit tied to gimmicky movement historically has gone quite poorly (despite how much fun i personally think the frame in question is nowadays), so i dont really know what else they could have done there really, like undertow was his main survivability tool, so they gave him a survivability tool to gain armor, which he was kinda lacking on, and this filled a hole in his kit. Now when i play hydroid i really feel like an eldritch pirate caption in the middle of the storm with the cc and debuffs from his one and his 4. Tidal surge is great now but i think it could do with a little more control, hell maybe even add an alt function and put puddle on there as a way to heal, that could be a neat way to reincorporate it while keeping the new stuff. Idk i personally really enjoy it and it could use a tweak or two here but overall it made him much more fun to actually play, instead of just being used solely as a thing when you are bored ya know? Edit: oh hey you had the same idea i guess lol

@fran99080 7 месяцев назад

Like you said, I would have loved to see hydroid having undertow in the same ability as tidal surge since they work the same thematically. Having the tap be tidal surge and hold be a reworked undertow would be amazing. I don't have as many gripes with the rework as you though. I still think they did a good job, and the abilities will still be used in a lot of scenarios.

@kyaii 7 месяцев назад

This video is great and outlines some important perspectives on the term "rework"! Regardless, great as always, keep it up

@ethanemerson4862 7 месяцев назад

( 0:33 ) No, the Slide-blind is not free. Look at the energy bar every time he uses it.

@NovaUmbral 7 месяцев назад

I should have clarified but that section was about Excalibur on the initial rework state (hence the intro title, 16.9)

@switchiro5262 7 месяцев назад

Note: Ember got her World On Fire nerf before Hildryn was released

@NovaUmbral 7 месяцев назад

The main point wanted to make was that Hildryn had received a similar ability, when DE themselves stated that they are not a fan of set and forget, when Haven is... exactly just that.

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@lucasfraczek4320 7 месяцев назад

I think my only one gripe with Hydroid's rework is that there's no compound effect on Plunder, so if you use it at the right time you'll get LESS bonus damage and armor... They need to make it so last armor on Corrosive procs add up and not do what I just mentioned, it gets a little annoying. 😓

@Masochistickoala 6 месяцев назад

@user-gt7vi9jm9mno its based on the amount of corrosive stacks you "plunder".

@ReeceRacc 7 месяцев назад

His puddle and wave should have been combined. Puddle when stationary, and turn into a wave when moving. Think of it as more of a "water form" ability.

@addmen96 7 месяцев назад

I bet it'll take another 10 years or so before DE decide to give Valkyr a rework

@Johnpdf 2 месяца назад

valkyr def needs a rework, she technically works fine but shes clunky and half her abilities are useless. her 4 while it does good damage has a goofy stance

@Metaknight145 Месяц назад

Eh. I'm a Valkyr stan and I will die on the hill that she's good and only her 3 needs to be changed to actually do something, her 1 can stay as a meme and a helminth slot. You only need to bind crouch + melee to a single key and that's it. Her spin attacks and her aerial attacks are the attacks in her stance that actually have damage multipliers. 200% for the Aerials and 300% on her spins. If you can do her spin attacks easily with a single key she turns into a living blender of death. Slap an armor strip on her, like Therros Strike, and boom she can effortlessly do any non-levelcap content in the game. She's my go to Frame for painlessly doing my weekly netracells. Get every debuff none of which she cares a single shit about, activate 4, then just tear through the level completely invulnerable without a care in the world. No effort, no think, no survive, only spin and win. I regularly get the most kills and the most kills to lower alert level in the squad with her. I don't think a Warframe that can effortlessly do all the non-levelcap content in the game needs a rework. I think its the ones that require tremendous effort to get them through content in the game that need reworks. Yeah, every frame can do all content. But which ones require you to move heaven and earth to do it? Which ones require a little tweak to do it? And which ones just kinda do it?

@Johnpdf Месяц назад

@@Metaknight145 everybody knows valkyr can do good damage but her kit sucks, its just spin to win theres nothing to it, she does need a rework but not as much as other frames, its basically like old inaros, he survived fine for most missions people do but thats it

@MortalMerc 7 месяцев назад

If a frame turns off the game at low level it makes the game even worse for new players. If you start a new game and it's just a walking sim because everyone else is doing the content so fast you can't interact with it you aren't going to play the game for long. That's why Embers WoF got nerfed, it was actively making new players leave the game.

@Wonback 7 месяцев назад

Still waiting for my Loki rework, its been 10 years

@doitfaster9553 5 месяцев назад

Hear me out go playing hunting simulator in the open world its fun

@artificialintelligence0101 6 месяцев назад

Day one player here took about a year later off of the game. just getting back into the swing of things searching for videos just like this. I appreciate the thorough assessment and the hard work and dedication that it takes into critiquing such a complex game. well done.

@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT 7 месяцев назад

The moment I saw this I had to drop my video editing dude. Can’t miss my Nova fix.

@BlackenedEclipseCurse 6 месяцев назад

I think i seen this idea somewhere but id love it if hydroids four just summoned pools of water around battlefield and a cluster of tentacles emerged from them when enemies got close and pulled into the depths, similar to undertoe but several of them. It would be a roundabout way of keeping undertoe yeah, but those tentacles need something.

@zetomer5468 6 месяцев назад

21:40 I feel like for the creature in the 4th ability, it could move towards the closest enemy if it doesn't hold any enemies, this could cause issues for defense missions but.. you got the 1st ability, which solves the issue in my opinion because you could plop down the kraken and spam 1 while he swims around killing enemies in low level nodes and preventing enemies from attacking the target in higher levelled ones

@badash1738 7 месяцев назад

Lets talk about this man crediting people's footage! Mad Respect for ya! And the video is rad man! Keep it up!

@AllFiery 7 месяцев назад

The new ember world on fire now is Gauss' thermal sunder

@TilDrill 7 месяцев назад

Small correction to the intro Excaliburs blind on slide attack does cost energy

@jackfoxe5948 7 месяцев назад

Im personally going to miss Undertow. I might be one of the few people that actually got enjoyment out of just sitting under objectives as a big puddle. Especially with the augment that made undertow heal things standing in it actually working on said objectives as well. It wasnt godlike levels of healing by any means, but it still felt nice to blorp down onto a hurt defense pod and slowly fix it while just also telling every melee attacker to promptly f*** off.

@RapTapTap69 7 месяцев назад

I actually have a prediction for inaros. He's going to be radiation based similar to how hydroid is corrosive based and grendel is toxin based

@torunsmok5890 7 месяцев назад

Radiation, mummy Radioactive decay, mummy rot Yeah I can see it! Plus pocket sand and sandstorm confusing, misdirection enemies into attacking each other It could work, but then... His existing kinda gimmick of doing true damage is really cool

@kylemasson9324 7 месяцев назад

@@torunsmok5890 Just let Inarnos overheal, maybe with a reworked Devour, and rework his sandstorm to being a sandstorm *aura* (maybe a new type of pseudo-exaulted weapon?), and suddenly Inaros would be a surprisingly good pick again for sheer, raw, tank, with a solid aura

@MyDemon32 6 месяцев назад

@@torunsmok5890 That's just Nyx 2.0

@lastchance1829 7 месяцев назад

Id argue hydroid lost none of his crowd control, tempest barrage stun locks anything that isn't an eximus or an acolyte, and tentacle sqarm is just a better version of what it was. And imo, puddle was a joke, all it did was hold his kit back, plunder is great for increasing damage of your kit and weapons, and only sits weirdly because his stats are still shield based. The perma strip is only there because it takes all the corrosive stacks off the enemies and bases your buff off of that

@cinderpsycho1985 7 месяцев назад

I'm agreeing it might not have been a perfect rework but no undertow shouldn't have stayed without a drain we'd just end up with a frame that can't take damage at all press a button go afk... Kinda like old defy or if League brings some warnings don't make a Yummi Warframe....

@NovaUmbral 7 месяцев назад

Right which is why I suggested a tune up like Cloudwalker 2.0, its a shorter duration spell that won't let Hydroid simply sit in i-frame state forever or even if the power was combined lets say as an idea, ensure that undertow would still force player out after X seconds to ensure more active play.

@AlvinEarthworm 7 месяцев назад

@@NovaUmbral The ability already exists though. It's called Tidal Surge. With its augment it's infinitely spammable and gives you i-frames and status immunity. It's also really good now at gathering up mooks. Having two similarly functioning abilities in his kit would have been redundant.

@cinderpsycho1985 7 месяцев назад

@@NovaUmbraleven with a tune up I think undertow is crap. Maybe it could have been implemented into his ultimate like the kraken eats victims or something?

@futurescholar25 7 месяцев назад

It's funny that for years people bashed on hydroids puddle as crap and now that its gone people are like " now that i think about it was good/thematic/funny" and want it back or as a second passive when crouching. Personally i agree with adding anything to tenticle swarm to make the "kraken" part more apparent.

@AlvinEarthworm 7 месяцев назад

I noticed that too. A lot of people are either trolling or high on the copium right now.

@fullarmedtoaster8036 7 месяцев назад

I love the more informational type of content you make. But i have a question. Is it inspired by the vars guy from lol?

@GreatChadz 7 месяцев назад

Love this man keep it up what next warframe

@alaskarii007 7 месяцев назад

Even though I feel sorry for the people laid off and the fanbase in general, man, I feel bitterly vindicated toward some of the toxic haters of warframe that began worshipping bungie's farts.

@Walt_Chocolate 7 месяцев назад

My boi hydroid made the grade. I am grateful for lord Pablo. Hopefully future reworks get the same luv. Nice video btw🎉

@rodd-hunter1675 7 месяцев назад

Love your video. 1+ sub. 👏👏👏

@ugandalorian495 7 месяцев назад

Ha you did it sooner than I thought Making a hydroid video after the rework

@enderreaper9240 16 дней назад

His plunder ability buffs the corrosive damage of his 4th attack (at least in my experience), so it synergizes very well with his 4th ability.

@HexaGhost286 7 месяцев назад

I can't imagine Valkyr getting a rework ever

@mueezyusuf7181 7 месяцев назад

We can only hope…😢

@HexaGhost286 7 месяцев назад

@@mueezyusuf7181 Yeah, but at least she isn't too bad at the moment

@Negruzzu 7 месяцев назад

I haven’t played Hydroid in the past because of his lackluster power and slow build up compared to other frames. Yes it might not be be the best rework as you said but it is miles better than what he was, i really got to finally get him a loadout, some formas onto him, a decent and little bit more expensive build than what i had on him. It was so bad that i actually was surprised that i only had mods that were available at his prime release….

@DoctorGrimmothy 7 месяцев назад

I wonder who is gonna get reworked next

@mr.v1442 7 месяцев назад

*cries in space dragon*

@noahedenborg4221 7 месяцев назад

Does chroma really count as a dragon He kinda just wears a dragon pelt almost like doctor strange cloak

@mr.v1442 4 месяца назад

@@noahedenborg4221 shhh, at least let him have this chroma is already useless, you dont have to beat him more

@Blythe985 7 месяцев назад

7:33 No that is literally not a rework. Numbers changes are balance changes. Not a rework

@zacharykrause7741 3 месяца назад

Rewatching this video knowing the inaros rework is coming in three days, I think Pablo nailed it. He’s keeping inaros theme and play style, without just giving him brain dead damage.

@jacoryarnett7347 7 месяцев назад

I wish DE keep his undertow ability and give us an option to let hydroid switch his abilities from plunder to undertow just like other warframes switchable abilities (vauban, ivara, and xaku).

@facundoc602 7 месяцев назад

a corrosive undertow could scale really hard

@fran99080 7 месяцев назад

tap tidal surge hold undertow would be fire

@facundoc602 7 месяцев назад

@@fran99080 that reminds me to lavos's 3rd and somehow zephyr's 4th that could make sense and feel good to play i'm sure rebeca would love your idea(she wanted to place undertow into helminth sistem but the team decided not to, well i agree that it could be weird) i'd prefer tap for tidal surge since you want to go fast, and hold for undertow like you said

@Psion_Phoenix 5 месяцев назад

I do agree they should of kept his undertow. But made it into the first unique crouch ability, like how some frames have unique rolls. Whenever he crouches, he goes into a puddle for as long as he wants, but can still take damage via area damage and takes more electric damage while in undertow. They could even removed his tidal surge and gave that to him as his unique roll animation and given us another ability along with plunder.

@shizukousapostle1stapostle710 5 месяцев назад

19:30 he didn't went from a CC frame to a weapons platform, he went from a stagnant CC and low level damage dealer to a CC and high level damage dealer, his first and fourth provide amazing CC still along with the damage, he is no less a CC frame

@XKietseroX 7 месяцев назад

Ok but summoning the kraken over a whirlpool that constantly pulls bad guys into a tentacle swarm that’s being pelted by tempest barrage would have been awesome

@camelusdromedarius3789 5 месяцев назад

Love Hydroid's rework because I love weapons platform warframes.

@WorldBridger70 7 месяцев назад

An idea that comes to mind, what if they visually changed undertow to enhance the horror theme. Have undertow make a water dome around Hydroid as they move, lifting enemies inside and helplessly drowning them as they are pulled along with the current. Just the idea of undertow's victims floating around you

@noahedenborg4221 7 месяцев назад

So a water bubble that lifts enemy's dealing dmg Hmm that's neat

@subjectbreh7659 7 месяцев назад

keep up the good work

@GoatOfWar 6 месяцев назад

Valkyr's 1 and 3 immediately come to mind lol

@thebossman5470 7 месяцев назад

I love this!

@D3M0Ndotexe 6 месяцев назад

I’m waiting for chroma to get a rework, he’s honestly my favorite frame his 1 needs to change and maybe his 4

@The57912 7 месяцев назад

Honestly the phrase "Reworks should break new ground" is dumb to me. Because Yarelli was breaking new ground with K-Drive Merulina, and to this day that New Ground has done nothing but cause her to fall flat on her face. Hydroid's issue isn't that he's not unique, it's that Warframe abhors uniqueness due to the devs wanting both a power fantasy and a 'balanced' game with the rest of the community. It's due to wanting a balance that Eximus showed up and caused Limbo to be dumpstered, why Revenant's old risky Mesmer Skin was turned into an invincible option, and why damage is even more desired. Could they have focused more on the CC of Hydroid? Sure, but what would that accomplish but make him bad again?

@josequiles7430 7 месяцев назад

I've never seen a community that abhors balance quite like Warframe's. It's silly to think that balance is incompatible with power fantasy, because it's said balance that, if done right, would allow you to feel powerful while using any of the game's options. In an unbalanced game only the players using the top options get to feel truly powerful, while the rest feel like they're being punished for not choosing said options. Also Eximus didn't "dumpster" Limbo, he still the absolute best frame for defending objectives, like he always has been. If something like Scarlet Spear ever comes back he will be used on mass like he was last time. Because he made the Railjack portion of the event a joke

@russianjacket2194 7 месяцев назад

All those frames getting major upgrades while my boy atlas is crying in a corner with his not so good damage and only 2 real good abilities on his kit.

@AlvinEarthworm 7 месяцев назад

You must not be building him correctly. Give him the right stat stick and he can easily one shot most enemies. Even hours into a Steel Path endurance.

@Lordbobomb 7 месяцев назад

Man i miss Em's World on Fire. Yeah i see why it was replaced but i loved Ember as she was, overpowered or not. The drama around her deluxe skin didn't help either.

@ecbrd8478 7 месяцев назад

kind of impressed grendel didn't even get a mention in this video

@NovaUmbral 7 месяцев назад

Didn't wanna make this video too long but I have plans to discuss grendel in greater detail in the future

@kandihustty5610 5 месяцев назад

The only thing i'd of fixed with undertow is that it just spit out enemies instead of holding onto them when you move. So you were basically stuck in one place till everything in your puddle died.

@Raionhardt 2 месяца назад

Embers 2nd rework/adjustments and augments has made her one of the strongest AOE frames in the game. It's wild that people sleep on her still

@mike-bi7ll 7 месяцев назад

my boi frost needs some love

@Kubrixss 7 месяцев назад

I Miss Old Ember...

@xXSonyKilerXx 7 месяцев назад

Absolutely my new main(hydroid)

@charles5212 7 месяцев назад

Whats the frame concept shown at 15:02 ?

@Surprised_Synth 7 месяцев назад

Ember deluxe skin that got cancelled. Because the third party creator diddnt like that DE added a "knife" mohawk on her head

@hyd3831 7 месяцев назад

Tap to create a whirlpool that draws enemies into the old undertow and blast them out. Hold to just use Tidal Surge but with better grouping capabilities. It's hard to combine both abilities in a nice way without just having both abilities with different cast buttons. But I do miss the [become puddle]

@TylerTheLoser_ 6 месяцев назад

I really wanna know why Hydroid *didn't* get to keep Undertow. It was by far the most memorable part of his kit. Tidal Surge feels like a hacked off extension of Undertow that could've just been bound to the roll or bullet jump of Undertow. Drowning enemies was sick. If Grendel gets to eat them, why can't Hydroid drown them?

@proxmitikgames 7 месяцев назад

The only rework ive hated is ember.

@elsensei666 5 месяцев назад

6:23 Nice Sonic Frontiers ost 😮

@zekolonon 5 месяцев назад

Hydroid is by far the best rework of all of them.

@grazzhopper6799 7 месяцев назад

i need more inaros rework talk

@nisms5048 7 месяцев назад

I agree so well with the hydroid rework. I wish we still had puddle. the rework was great absolutely power crazy frame. But really I wish they made puddle more useful so that people would fear the deep blue instead of worry they will be caught in the rain

@AlvinEarthworm 7 месяцев назад

The puddle was crap. Hydroid is better off without it.

@needsmctherapy1447 7 месяцев назад

it was a sad day for me when the puddle got removed that singular ability was what made me go out of my way to get Piss Puddle Prime while he was vaulted for platinum and enjoy trolling ppl in defense

@RatBoyDunce 7 месяцев назад

I would’ve loved if the tentacles moved with your undertow

@Direwolf13PS3 5 месяцев назад

When Oberon got reworked there was a gigantic pool of Oberon rework feedback threads telling DE that he needed more help. Unfortunately DE didn't listen to those people and Oberon is just as mediocre as he was before his rework. A master of nothing, and the butt of all support related jokes.

$@infractal5033$

@infractal5033 7 месяцев назад

9:00 I got totally taken out of it when I saw *his* name.

@hurka.design 4 месяца назад

What about Trainman?

@grazzhopper6799 7 месяцев назад

inaros sould be reworked into the "swarm" frame

@johnsen4977 7 месяцев назад

Adding vortex to Hydroid's Undertow would simply make it similar to Yareli's 4 and somehow Inaros's 3. I think DE tried hard to keep the undertow to just for his theme but the concept of being stationary was simply counter-intuitive for the whole gameplay. However, I agree that the kraken needs to be released

@shadeyshroomy4006 7 месяцев назад

Undertow was never fun and never worked correctly. Like I just hate the puddle so much.

@rainingdeathx3368 7 месяцев назад

Reworks never get people excited until pablo says he's designing it

@comradeoctober2836 7 месяцев назад

He gave the most bullshit answer on getting rid of undertow imo

@madsvigan2898 6 месяцев назад

Remember When rhino iron skin used duration? Then changed and became worthless Then the rework today. I remember, I was there at every aspect, and I never dropped Rhino. Been my main for well over 10 years.

@dev4159 7 месяцев назад

still waiting for a proper Chroma rework

@charlieevert9351 6 месяцев назад

I’m going miss undertow 😢

@mysteriousstranger5873 2 месяца назад

“Hydroid turned himself into a puddle! Can you believe it? It was the funniest shit I’ve ever seen!”

@shadowandroid758 5 месяцев назад

Undertow made Hydroid viably bypass detection on stealth missions, just so long as he didn't have to deal with slants.

@YsoKain 7 месяцев назад

It's funny cuz I've been telling my clan that most reworks are basically just "change element = rework" . This doesn't mean that reworks are bad but some feel miniscule

@b-17theflyingfortress 7 месяцев назад

Hydroid, is he a pirate? A kraken? Or an avatar of the ocean? It's either all of it or none of it, we will never know....

@eoschar2758 7 месяцев назад

Nice. Now we need a frost rework. And inaros. And nyx.... and a lot more. Do u think we will have more reworks? I mean,without waiting YEARS,of course. I'd do one thing,and call me crazy but... what if DE just stops making new wfs for a time aaaand starts making more reworks? Idk. I would love it. I feel there are too much warframes and reworks might revitalize the game more even than new warframes so...? I know I know,dreaming is free and DE probably wont do this,I dont even think we will have any rework in the next..1 year?2? Anyway.

@spoofs974 7 месяцев назад

Street fighter 3 second impact ost 👍

@juliusamobi733 7 месяцев назад

This man. Hydroid went from episode 1 luffy to gear 5 th luffy 😂. The change is crazy

@MrPekarce 7 месяцев назад

how about we get FoV REWORK ? is it to much to ask....

@zearcjustice7837 4 месяца назад

valkyr main still waiting for update be like

@andrewgrasman8951 5 месяцев назад

Water does corrode, especially water from the ocean

@TurretsGunZ 7 месяцев назад

Odd that you didnt talk about the less good reworks like Vauban, Nyx and at the time Titania before she got much better.

@josequiles7430 7 месяцев назад

I'd say Nyx has never really gotten a full rework, just a couple changes to some abilities, which aside from the one to her 2 were pretty minor

@Zarkator 7 месяцев назад

your ember story reminded me of wukong too. At his release, wukong was my favorite warframe, and I knew full well he wasn't the best by any means, so when they reworked him and gutted defy in favor of celestial twin, it left a bad taste in my mouth that he become the most popular warframe ever for a while, and then they renerfed his 4, and then they nerfed the twin, so now all he's actually good for is moving with his 2. hes still super popular, but hes not the wukong I once knew.

@madkingace1798 7 месяцев назад

wukong is brokenly op atm

@AlvinEarthworm 7 месяцев назад

What are you talking about? Wukong was just a useless Defy bot before his rework. Now he has a full and useful kit that makes him great at the vast majority of content. You're just salty that you can't AFK with him anymore.

@Zarkator 7 месяцев назад

@@AlvinEarthworm did you read any of what I said???

@comradeoctober2836 7 месяцев назад

@@Zarkator don't mind him the fucker is a troll. I feel and understand what you mean, everything that you liked about your favorite frame gets changed so it turns into just a painful reminder

@AlvinEarthworm 7 месяцев назад

@@Zarkator Yes I did. You said he was your favorite frame on release, which obviously meant you loved his ability to not die. Then they changed him into something where you actually needed to use your brain in order to play him and that made you sad. Awwww diddums. Git gud, scrub! And for your information, he's still OP even after the nerfs. So stop talking crap!

@Jimbot_ 7 месяцев назад

Ember being just not great hurt’s honestly there are build’s but her kit is just blegh the LOS is awful feeling when there are frames that do what she does and better hurt’s my soul…

@zacharyhsieh9358 7 месяцев назад

He doesn't match thematically but he's still crazy fun with a lot of weapons so I'm not complaining.

@eggseed6543 7 месяцев назад

Honestly i like the changes, but ill forever miss and repress the choice of removing puddle. They could remove the surf as it was useless but puddle was my dearly

@sorantohell5096 4 месяца назад

3 months later, saying Hydroid rework was a bust is just wrong. He is now viable for endgame, and if anything, it's one of the best CC frames in the game now. You actually see people running him in endgame now, unlike before, where you would see one or 2 leveling him for mastery. He definitely went from zero to hero in his rework.

@PlaystationPortalOwnsSwitch 7 месяцев назад

I miss old ember 😢

@AnymMusic 7 месяцев назад

I wish we'd get a shift away from dmg meta. Unless you're the frame yourself, frames like Saryn, Equinox, hell even Volt are so boring to play with. You might as well stand still and make lunch cause you'll get nothing done. Especially not as a new player. Honestly I would love to see frames like Trinity somehow get more fame again. Or maybe more CC again like a Vauban

@AlvinEarthworm 7 месяцев назад

CC is never going to be popular again as long as Eximus units exist. This is why everything is switching to a damage focused meta.