WARFRAME | Secret Narrative of Whispers in the Walls - The Cavia Syndicate Full Story Analysis 

Bird 3 might not be the smartest, but he is the wisest.

I still can't believe the Cavia effectively gave us a canonical explanation for fashionframe.

The Cavia became incandescent when they resurrected. The folks on the Zariman are also basically resurrected via void stuff. They're made of the Voidshell stuff we can use to customize textures on warframes and stuff. Lotus became Lotus Radiant at her victory over Balas, and then saw MITW and the big void portal that the Zariman closed. Radiant void relics. I wonder if there's a connection or if this is a stretch?

It does make a lore reason why we can change the colors of our warframes, weapons and etc.

Tagfer is a savage. Idk why, but "forever kissing the fist that beats you" makes my spine shiver.

I tell you what, that dialogue between fib and tag has made me so emotional each time I hear it, idk what it is but man my heart hurts hearing the voices

I wish they animated all this cavia stuff. It would of made things so much better.

Given that Albrecht never fully understood Voidtongue, the poetic way Albrecht speaks, and other uses of the word "praise" I've heard, I don't really read the line "chanting freakish praise to the one beyond the wall." to mean that they were literally praising Wallace. I interpret that passage to mean that they went in as normal animals, and they came out alive but changed, now intelligent and speaking Wallace's language. I don't doubt that Wallace has its grip on them, especially after their deaths, but I don't think they were giving it their adulation when they first returned.

Out of all the syndicates in warfame the Cavia are my favorite.

Anyone else think the voice actor for albrecht is the next Morgan freeman 😅 could listen to him talk all night aha

I loved that quest and the fact that the voicelines of the cavia change depending on your syndicate advencement to reflect their degrading state and then recovery

I immediately liked Tagfer the best, even before I knew the entire Cavia story. I just felt bad for him based on what we got to know during the actual Whispers in The Wall quest

Hey TheDsIEGE!, I just wanted to express my immense appreciation for your dedication to Warframe lore and your incredible video breakdowns. They're truly exceptional, meticulously crafted, informative, and engaging, making even the densest lore digestible and exciting. The sheer effort and passion you pour into every video shines through, and it's clear you have a deep understanding and love for the Warframe universe. That dedication is seriously inspiring! I'm sticking with you and the Tenno family all the way until the very end of this epic story. Your breakdowns make the journey even more enriching, and I can't wait to see what you explore next. A heartfelt thank you from a fellow lore enthusiast! Keep up the fantastic work, Tenno! 🌺

The real prize wasn't the littany of stuff (warframes, weapons, vehicles, mods, shards, endo, credits, arcanes, etc, etc, etc) we've collected along the way. It was (and will be) the hugs we give away. Great video ... just leaving some algorithm fuel.

When the add the ability to hug the cavia, in the best update, I will hug tagfer and bird-3 every time I see them. Fibonacci on the other hand, will only ever receive one hug from me, and that's only so I can see the cutscene

Yet still..*WE END AS WE BEGAN*

This is the Warframe I’ve been waiting for ever since we got The War Within. I’m so happy that the plot is finally moving in a coherent, well executed direction again.

A while ago I had a thought. Albrecht mentioned that the bodies of the Cavia “lay stacked in pyramids around my deserted lab”. This gives a loose implication that they weren’t disposed of by incineration or the like (though that would be the more sanitary option). I’m wondering if these cadavers were, at least partially, a source of biomass for the infestation once it began to consume Deimos. Deimos ain’t the largest solar body, and surely there weren’t a massive amount of Orokin inhabiting it, especially as the Sentients grew close. And yet, in the present the entire moon is consumed and even expanded with the flesh of the Technocyte

I have another theory for the cavia's revival, Minn healed them. I think she was always with Tagfer, just on the other side, into the void, struggling to find a way to reunite with him or help him. And in the end she discovered an ability similar to our Vazarin Dash that can make allies invulnerable and heal them. The "tapping" around the time of their revival was her crossing dimensions dashing through them, healing them. She was the thing that Loid couldn't point out in the mix of void and anti-void.

This is off subject but I think Javi's story and Alchemy is about to play a huge roll soon, which is why Baro Ki'teer has been bringing so much of his stuff. Amazing stuff though man keep up the good work. Cavia's story is amazing

Recently discovered your channel, after much hesitation watched a video on Albrecht Entrati and got stuck with your videos. Exceptionally well done. Unfortunately this video will have to wait a bit, I haven't done anything besides the quest yet. Might have to get going finally, can't call myself a veteran otherwise.

A man who thought himself close to a god finding out how insignificant he really is compared to one. That's how i would describe this whole arc of Albrecht and the Man in the Wall.

I can't help but wonder if, like the holdfasts, in the moment of their death our 'light' saved them, and brought them back. The Tenno, our Tenno, are canonically extremely compassionate. We bonded with the warframes by taking their emotional pain on ourselves, and I think the Tenno's 'innocent' capacity for love and compassion fueling our void-bonded powers is the 'light' that we have, and what TMITW is... well, testing.

I haven't played warframe in quite a while, but never miss your videos, great one as always

I remember a quote when seeing the vessel of the indifference being stopped "The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference" stopping it with a loving/caring hand maybe I could see the void needing to keep them alive to get to Albrecht and maybe even Minn being returned by some void shenanigans inb4 saved by the power of love

Quinn(at the end of the quest AoZ after getting revived): "We changed. Oh, we drew power, but from a very different source. You have noticed it's not just the Reliquary that can work miracles with the Void, yes? I wonder.... do you even know just how brightly you shine? Ballas: And it was not their force of will, not their Void devilry, not their alien darkness... it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly broken thing...and take away its pain." I guess the same thing happened to the Cavia. It was Tenno's power. How and why is still a question.

I love understanding warframe better while grinding lol

Best channel on yt for me

Another excellent vid dude

Love the video great job

I enjoyed listening to this while I played. Thanks m8 and keep well.

And the legend drops another light throwing banger lore video

One case of reincarnation in warframe is with the zariman crew, in both case us(be mostly tenno, mostly our doppelganger or by our powers combined) just bein near a soul of a person on the brink of death means they can reincarnate as a biblical angel of sort, a creature of realms of spirit but still made solid

I wouldnt be surprised if us tenno end up befriending the void or maybe helping it chill out. The whole thing with the children is they could see the good inside the bad. Thats how they chilled out their frames to begin with.

Finally, I can listen to this wonderful video.

Not gonna lie, i took this update for granted. I didnt realize how good this was. Talking animals when i was wanting a narrative like the sacrifice of new war, i was not fond of this update. But hearing this dialog has completely changed my opinion. This has some of the best voice acting in the entire game. The animals all sharing their feelings and existential dread, it makes me feel sorry for them, bringing the storytelling i was looking for. These guys made me feel the same way i felt for Umbra. Except we cant do much to help them. I cant wait to kick whoevers ass is behind all of it, whether its the man in the wall or entrati himself.

Great video but I absolutely can’t wait for the somachords. The music from this update is absolutely phenomenal. Super ethereal

I'm getting the sinking feeling that a version of Loid will make a choice in the future that saves the cavia and Albrecht and/or his family while dooming Loid himself...

Note: I wrote this 5 mins before the ending of the video and the major part of this got speculated. Seeing as The Man in the Wall has granted us the choice we have taken, to have all timelines but two collapse into reality using all others to realize said possibility, the void probably granted the same privileges to the Cavias since they blatantly stated they would assist us in the search for Albrecht. Seeing as He has obvious difficulty accessing 1999 for yet to be explained reasons (possibly a time nexus which created a point in time which is fixed and any characters and objects involved cannot be changed from the moment said nexus began up to the point of said nexus ending at [23:59:59-xx/xx/1999] for some reason.) Through us accessing (and as such involving ourselves and our void mirror) said nexus it could be reasoned that the Void granted all the Cavia their lives to assist us in helping it access Albrecht. Note thay this does not account for Albrecht telling us that "When the *time* is *right* come and see me.*

Great video!

Somehow, DE made a canon explanation for changing colors for fashion.

Its a really interesting name, the indifference. I think the ending of the primary quest and the upcoming updates for the internations with the cavia show that the only way to deal with it is to show it compassion.

I love that scene as well.

Love your videos siege

I really Hope to see Tagfer and Minn reunite

While i understand that albrect didn't really value tagfer and minn and thus sacrificed them my question is why didnt he at least take efforts to make sure the mating pair had at least 1 litter or however many offspring cervulites have at once so that he wouldn't cause a spieces to go completely extinct

Imagine a special interaction with Yareli and Fibonacci where she gets inside his tank and personally hugs him

A small detail I like is the difference in Fibonacci's attitude between cavia cut scenes. Before he is revealed that he murdered Minn by accident he's quite arrogant when you go to grab missions from him especially if you decide not to do one he chastises you for wasting time. However after Tagfer calls him out for the murder, his whole demeanor changes to that of soft spoken, lacking confidence, self worth, and guilty. For example if you were to go to him to accept a mission he hesitantly asks you if you want to take on tasks and if you don't he just accepts it as if he doesn't have a right to be indignant about not doing a task. After the scene where Tagfer says he can work with him, he balances out not arrogant, but also not lacking self worth.

Is it possible the Indifference is the way it is due to having a slight imprint of Albrecht due to the initial meeting. Meaning that if he had it first meeting with something innocent as an example. Would the Indifference being completely difference in personality?

I finally completed the Whispers in the Walls quest and it is one of the more unique and ominous quests in the game. Most likely I will binge watch if not all your videos regarding the story including this one as well. However I do have one question though if I may: I didn't know there were voice recordings of Entrati and Loid. I ended up finding Entrati's but not Loid's in the intro of the video. Do you know where I can also collect these?

Came back to finish watching this a second time and it dropped me at 27:40 ish and did the Hey Kiddo bit.

Commenting here to confirm something I mentioned on the live premiere of the video: I just had Walley visit me AGAIN (all caught up on main quests) and this time I saw him peeking around the corner by the railjack boarding part of your orbiter. That’s 2 times now after not seeing him for a very long time. He’s always watching

Loved the video! I dont know how I feel about all the open questions that each quest leaves. I mean what is the deal we made, and can it even be called a deal when we supposedly brake it and our powers still work? What is the deal with Lotus and MITW? Why does not he ask us the question in plain english that he is perfectly cabaple of speking it a minute later? What is hunhow doing, sitting on eggs? Who put the black soulstone in Errra´s head? How did Erra survive the first time? What/who is the stalker? What happened to Pragasa? Unum? Heart of deimos? Parvos? Zarriman? The finger? Lotus hand? Cavia? And now we have Y2K apocalypse where the computers really brake. I know warframe is a live service game, but I want to live to see come conclusion of the story.

Oh Baro, not you too!

I recently looked at reactions to the warframe cinematics, and a little detail i noticed was in the opening cinematic, it almost looks like a version of the drifter laying the flowers down in front of the warframes. The new war cinematic looks like the same person but in an operator's uniform. Am i grasping for straws? Maybe just a little detail, i noticed.

Have you done Ballas cult like organization after his death like what happened to them where are they etc and why Kahl still engages them and we only have bounties is some areas offering Narmer enemies

Lol I absolutely love this visual of Albrecht and Loid getting stoned together and then Albrecht has a eureka moment

the positive effects of g fuel is greatly overstated

Omg it took me this many videos to search that cavia was a name for guinea pig

Omg omg 😳 I been waiting for this upload so long I almost died inside. Hope your new router works properly otherwise you’ll have to feed it to the helminth 🙃. Btw just out of context what actually is the helminth and why is it there? I’m playing since about 6 years and I still have no clue 😂

I did not know that we would potentially be able to show affection to the Cavia. I've been wanting to give Tagfer a hug since I first encountered them.

I just thought of something. Why is the Man in The Wall being 'broken' so important. I mean Albrecht disappeared into 1999 yet the MITW still followed, but _How?_ The finger being severed supposedly binds it to the 'Strands of Khra' which is basically trapping it in time, but that doesn't seem to be the case given it's still able to time travel, affect the infinite timelines, and all that. So what is the strands of Khra actually holding him from doing? If when those exposed to the void gain the ability to change themselves in some way, maybe the severed finger is actually shackling the MITW in a totally different way. What if it's trapping it in this twisted form reflecting the reckless pursuit that Albrecht was doing when he unlocked the void. What if the MITW just wants the ability to choose, same as everything else, but it's being denied that choice by Albrecht, due to him hiding of it's missing piece.

Not extremely related to the video, but it was always interesting to me how Albretch refered to Wally as "The adversary" as The adversary is a very well know way of talking about Satan, also they both offer deals that dont seem very fair once you look into what you take and what you give, also, how the eyes change when Wally "mimics" a person strikes me as kind of a "possesion" of sorts

I thought the Cavia rank-up story was goofy and a little dumb (I did not care for much of the voice acting), but as usual, you have presented so much more depth and potential that has me very excited once again!

it is that sit here in rithing pain and agony

My guy!!! 🎉🎉🎉

Given the fact they might have been resurrected with the intervention of the man in the wall, this also means Minn could’ve faced the same situation and were ultimately revived.

Another upload. This is the way.

I think the Uniqueness isn't the driving factor about whether "deals" are made, I think its about being unique enough as a concept to make the Indifference to take notice. The other Cavia originally sent werent interesting at all so the Indifference didnt notice, instead the void exposure merely killed them. Tagfer and Minn drew the Indifferences attention to all of them in the bell. The Zariman, a colony ship seemingly built to sacrifice its woefully underprepared crew to the Void was also "interesting" enough to garner the attention of the Indifference.

MOAR! 👏👏👏🙏

52:55 on top of that question about them: are we still we after the new war?

Part of me wonders if the void has any similarities to the warp from warhammer. Driven by emotion and a reflection of the real world. Given how horrible the Orokin were as immortal untouchable hedonists getting worse with time similar to the eldar, perhaps the man in the wall is some sort of tangled up entity as a result of orokin cruelty, or an entity that wants to undo the horrors of the orokin, almost like setting time straight from people who played god with time and immortality. If that were the case, Albrecht entering the actual void may have imposed the twisted nature directly into it as some sort of catalyst, almost like in warhammer with the birth of the Chaos God Slannesh when the Eldar owned the universe and filled it with depravity. This is really where my conceptual idea gets hazy. But it does seem to line up similarly with other things we see ingame. I've always wondered of the alignment system in the game. Lotus wants a balance of compassion and strength. Ballas says Tenno can look inside broken things and make them whole again. I wonder if ultimately we're trying to balance the horrors of orokin intertwined with the void and the man in the wall is kind of guiding us in strange ways. There just seems to be a consistent theme of Tenno setting things straight, the void playing with emotion and tenno healing broken things. I especially think this is somewhat loosely related to the story in some capacity after we drove the void back by showing compassion at the end of the questline. I could be off on why but it seems like some of this has to be true.

Woah wait wait hey. "Praising the one _beyond_ the wall. " Has there ever been a reference to a void entity besides the man _in_ the wall? Is this merely a variation of phrase or hints of something? I don't know why but it brings to mind the Seven, and how we know diddly about there doings, whereabouts, motives, or nature of their Oro. To borrow 40k logic, would their Oro have an equivalent and connected shadow in the Void?

The Cavia syndicate story is by far the best in Warframe, literally made me not get the archon fusion blueprint at first to get to rank 5 faster to see it's conclusion

After what Tagfer said I'm curious if the entity is really indifferent or just so clumsy and inexperienced that it appears that way.

A worse idea is that there are more “men in the wall” and every time a person or creature goes into the void, they get copied and a new brother joins the fray So far we’ve seen 2 and heard mention of others Perhaps we are seeing the prelude to a lovecraftian army A new void war in the future.

I'd say the fish chose Green representing it's wish to be "Clean", to "clean the 'blood' on it's 'fins'"... And tbo, I'd bet we'll get to find Min, do the same stuff and it'll turn Blue. That's my bet at least.

The great void is indifferent...it cares not for the petty quibbles of the living..only that which it can puppeteer and currate into something that truely stares back.

I have a question, in the war within the Warframe moves to save the operator then shortly after here comes the lotus that being said is it possible that the lotus controlled the Warframe for a short time to save the operator instead?

silly theory here with very little basing, it feels like the quality the indifference looks for is a level of malleability. uniqueness is simply a way to get to that (kinda idk). Going for children and newly awakened minds is a way to get that, but Vor's absolute fidelity to the Grineer, Albrecht's specific fervour for discovery at any cost, and the Zariman's inhabitants absolute want for a new life on Tau all kind of fit the qualifications for those vulnerable to such deals.

I dont understand how the fish coughs when... hes underwater.

4 in the morning, listening to warframe lore. Good choices.

There was dialog by Tagfer in the lab about someone becoming human... I thought it was Min. I've watched many vids no one mentions it. Am I the only one that heard that dialog? Another point the other operator I see in the ship from time to time doesn't look evil...not like yours does loll, I wonder if that is an effect of choosing good evil or balanced in the game play, I choose balanced for most decisions. I guessing you chose good so your void self is evil... just a random thought

we need an event to rescue minn

Bird 3 is the most inspired name ever

When he says ‘minds that papa gifted us’ does he believe Albrecht gave them their minds? I thought it was the effect Walley and the Void had on them? Is he actually on our side?

If the cavia were replaced then they're still out there. Hell. I think minn is still out there and we gotta find her sevagoth style.

I just realised - all the mentioned at the end of the video as possible void entities - all dieed! Albert at the time of experiment. Teno and every one at Zariman at Zariman incident. Alberts dauther from sickness. So at the death void takes ower - and thats how void spils into origin system.

Don’t get your hopes too high any payoff will like just be bare mentions of relevant plot point as we move at breakneck pack toward the bad guy(cough cough New War)

Kuva flavoured gfuel

Man i just want that minn returns somehow from the void and comes back to tagfer :( He really misses her. Please wally, do your void thing and use eternalism on her on something.

Protect Bird 3 at all costs. He is the goodest of bois.

I have a deep feeling that ming made deal with Wally so that they can survive. Only she had a name, other had no name but tags. It would be interesting if she is alive and wally keep her as pet or assistant.

The Cavia's story reminds me alot of Doom Patrol.

15:28 bruh I did very similar brushing to this

Tagfor is seing chosts... DO you think he made a deal?

hear me out the man in the wall is the character's "shadow self"... the side of the character... of us that we at first despise, silence, shun... fight. But one cant win the fight. One has to reconcile with it and accept it as oneself no lesser than ones conscious side. so the operator comforts the angry shadow with a touch on the face instead of fighting And in such reminds Loid of the necessity of the same They arent mad at each other. They are mad at themselves. the man in the wall will fight and plot against you ... because you dont want it, because you refuse it, because you fear it. Hurt people hurt people and being refused as part of oneself will hurt

51:47 is that a Captura scene? If yes, can someone tell me, wich one?

It’s 1 am I just said to myself I should go to sleep after doing some endless grinding…oh well it’s still the weekend I guess

I keep fixating on the term "We End As We Began". It HAS to be important somehow.