Warhammer Did not "Save" Total War: An Autopsy 

Seeing how Warhammerites so arrogantly dismissed grievances of Three Kingdom players - only to get screwed over by CA anyway - is one of the funniest bits of poetic justice I've seen in a while.

'Warhammer did not sell on the Total War IP, it sold on the Warhammer IP'. So true

Perhaps they could start updating and support some of the older releases to patch up old problems left behind e.g. Medieval 2's greatsword animation bug, Empire's and Shogun 2's bugs and design errors like the inferior Kisho Ninja and most notably Rome II. This would at least ensure more customers who buy these games are left satisfied and show that they've repented for their awful business model and that they're really committed to set things right, thus slowly rebuild some of their goodwill. Of course, this most probably won't happen. There is no way out of the hole they dug themselves in, this is the end of Total War.

Medieval 2 had so many things keeping you playing, americas, gunpowder, mongols, timurids

For all its faults, i can say i enjoyed attila when being a pirate was easy, and now when i bought it for 5 euros. And for all ots faults i can say they i enjoy TROY of all thing better than 3 kingdoms, twwh3 (which i played on a friends account), attila and rome 2. I think i can say is tied with shogun 2 actually

"It's been bad since Rome 2 came out." You don't do Attila dirty like that.

Empire was amazing and I will defend it to death with bayonet fixed!

There is a Medieval 2 Warhammer mod that is more fun than what CA is selling you lol. It's called BOTET: Call of the End Times I think.

never played Warhammer and will never.. cant wait till they release something new

OMG!! Never saw that vid from CA, that just says it all.

you cant use "self-aware comedy" if you painfully lack self-awareness

as WH fan I totaly Agree Dishonorable_Daimyo as with Volound aswell since Hype is really bad for game and we get Rome 2 of WH at WH3 Most of WH Content Partners are absoletely are reason why they killed WH3 aswell with Hype Absolete Shameless by most of them

Just one word for saving TW........Atari......

Rome 2 was shit :) Attila was ok tho 😊

4:50 well said. your fall of a franchise treatise has aged like gold. it was already good when it went up, now youve seen everything you said be vindicated. thats the great thing about choosing the path of honesty and genuine intellectual curiosity, you find yourself in the position of seeing your previous work be vindicated, while everyone elses is obsolesced. your fall of a franchise video will stand tall for years (or decades). you call it months before the crescendo of total war, and now you reap the rewards. feels good man. the complete other side of the coin is that pathetic thread at 7:00. glad to see it get the ruthless sardonic mocking it deserves. will share your video in a few hours (got to wait until my last community post gets a bit older so they dont overlap and the algorithm suppresses the new one. well said.

I used to love Total War, Medieval 2, Empire and Shogun 2 were so much fun I haven't cared about the series since they started charging $100nz for every game Rome2 onwards, it's sad to see how bad the quality of the games are these days Also really sad the legacy games don't have UI scaling for high resolution monitors, I miss Empire

Marking people who dislike the new TW titles as historical fans is something I see a lot, even in comments on your videos. I think it's completely dishonest since most of the games since Rome 2 have been historical and have many of the same problems as the Warhammer games. I love Warhammer Fantasy and while these AAA titles might have good graphics they have failed to represent this setting in the most important way, with gameplay. Warhammer Fantasy is supposed to be more gritty and historically inspired than other settings but these games have turned a fantasy battle wargame into a shoddy MOBA. If people are playing WH3 for the Fantasy stuff they should really try out Third Age or Beginning of the End Times to see what a proper fantasy Total War game looks like. A game with correct firearms, terrain advantages and no doomstacks or broken difficulty modifiers.

Warhammer 3 is not just a train wreck, it is the destruction of an entire railway system

I've seen franchises that chased trends survive when the artificial inflation inevitably falters but that's because they have a sizeable if neglected core audience. CA has all but completely destroyed that so they can only survive by either a servant/master or parasitic relationship to other Franchises or media trends. Total war Warhammer is an example of the former relation while Three kingdoms is an example of the latter.

Speaking of finishing campaigns, remember in Medieval 2 where you unlocked factions by either destroying them in the campaign, or by winning your first campaign? DLC now lol.

0:36 a truly chaotic "road map". Takes them two months to release nothing but a promise of super basic fixes. Most of which have/could have been fixed by modders in those two months. They don't even have their """"saving grace"""" immortal empires until 4 months and it's in BETA?! That shows a huge lack of faith in their own product as you already said. But I especially like how they can release DLCs to charge their customers...on a forecast that's supposed to show what they plan to do to fix the game. 1:23 yes. Absolute pure cringe. I don't know why they act like this voice actor is some renowned celebrity/member of the marketing the fans love, where it'll all be a good in-joke the fans know of. He got introduced in this games marketing and doesn't sound like a proffesional at all. Actually sounds like they pulled some random intern infront of a mic and said "do your best "coming this summer" movie trailer guy voice." 4:42 yeah, the strange thing was in your fall of a franchise video...you already covered the "MosT pOpUlar GaME oF tHE FrANcHisE!11!!!" you mentioned how it's only going of the momentum of the warhammer IP and every other game around it was tanking! Troy, Thrones, Attila and the execution of 3K proved that. Now it's the end of the "epic" warhammer trilogy and they ended on a wet fart. Bravo. 10:21 yup. You have to shell out practically full price, on 3 games and over £200 on KAWNTENT dlc for the "full warhammer total war experience". And what is involved on these DLCs? Game breaking over powered reskined units, a new starting postion, and a stat modifying tech tree/workshop. Copy and pasted across the board. Wow what brilliant effort, absolutely fleeced the fans.

Warhammer didn't save Total War, it just bludgeoned the series to death and wore it's corpse.

Realm Divide in S2 was such a great mechanic to keep the late-game interesting, as by that point in normal gameplay you'd be so big that few would be able to rival your doomstacks.

I enjoy total war in general. If I want a serious game then it's rome 1 or medieval 2, I have shogun 2 in my steam library but never could get into it. And as for warhammer I enjoy it, the craziness of it anyway, after a 13 or 14 hour work day I jump on and play. I don't care about it failing beyond getting my moneys worth before its abandoned. Which I have with 150 plus hours. I enjoy you and volounds videos because there should be more people like you fighting for the games they believe in, but CA is a sinking ship. And so is warhammer total war, which is unfortunate because I wanted to see where it would go.

Their game engine is bad and they should feel bad!

Well if we look all time peak player count for Total War: Warhammer 3 it is 166,519 players. Not bad really... If you are saying historical Total War games sell and are played better looking for Pharaoh peak of 5,424 players. You asked for our opinnion. I think CA did manage to save Total War: Warhammer 3. It did sold well enough. It is getting more of DLC's (what is kind of money grab for them). But yes, I am worried about future of history based total war games. Pharaoh did NOT sell well, it was most expensive historical "full" version of Total War games since ever. They have promised to give DLC's but we will see. I personally would not be totally surprised if they would sack these DLC's and even give money back for these few who bought Dynasty edition...

the woke mind virus played a part as well, make no mistake.

I quit playing warhammer when I woke up to how gullible I was being. it took about 6 months.

Warhammer III is like Cyberpunk and Warcraft 3 Reforged

Ofc not, it made it worse, because CA made millions with as little effort as possible. It essentially killed innovation and engine development. All they had to do was mod Rome 2 to look like the Warhammer universe, split it into 3 games with 97 different dlc packs, sit back and watch as the cash poured in from millions of fanboys who had no idea what a Total War game was even suppossed to be. The monetary success of Warhammer made them forget what made their best titles truly great in the first place and it incentivized them to pump out “content” at the expense of gameplay quality and actual engine development. Let alone even try to build a new engine. Now with Warhammer over, all the fanboys are not gonna pay for the same game thats just been modded to look “historical”. And all the history fans are not gonna pay for a “new” game that has the same engine as the previous historical title that they bought 15 years ago. So they either cut down their corporate wages and use the money to build a new game engine, or the franchise will die and they will have to find new jobs. Good luck have fun CA. This is exactly what should happen to any brand or company that cares more about profits than they do about product quality and customer satisfaction.

Im not even care with CA honestly, kkkkk anyone can take Medieval 2 and SSHIP mod from my pc, (even of steam fall, me and my friends will use hamachi) and that is the only matters.... Kkkkkkk

One of the most dummy thing total war has done is turning sandbox campaigns into RP story driven campaigns that you really just play once...

Imagine they have the cheek in the roadmap the say free lc and it's regiments of renown they are copy paste units with higher stats but hey guy we are so good to our fans buy not charging you lol

Has every TWW Game its own Blood & Gore DLC? Easy money I guess.

Warhammer straight up dragged Total War behind the shed and double-barrelled it.

Warhammer III is the end times for Total War.

I still understand why the community hates Warhammer it's the best game in the market in rts

it will still be a commercial success but they blew it indeed.

👏🙂 1:50 Omg the cringe!!!!! 🤣 13:40 very sad 16:20 looks like the franchise is going down. It is quite a fall since the magnificence of Medieval 2, Rome and Shogun 2. I guess that is life.

I’m worried that they will make the next historical total war super Arcady and shallow like war hammer. Haven’t been happy with total war since Rome 2 and even that game didn’t hit the mark.

Imagine saying Warhammer saved total war.

The author of the megasimp "Kindly leave Warhammer out of this..." post on Reddit deleted it a few days ago, along with his account. I replied to him telling him he deserves what's coming (meaning the inevitable abandonment of WH3, which was obvious in the context I said it), then he accused me of making threats to him, then deleted everything lol.

Are there mods that fix three kingdoms?

Warhammer Total War is fun, but its NOT TOTAL WAR! Campaign map is SHALLOW AS FUCK, SAME building system since ROME 2, only with more slots (and even then its worse somehow), Unit balance.....whats that? Ranged spam is STUIPDLY effective (i suspect this is due to how they changed how armor works from Rome 2 and Attila), the AI....oh GOD the AI is as STUPID as ever, not much has changed. And YOUR BIGGEST SELLING POINT is all 3 games connect together, and in order to play "SANDBOX" mode in WH 2 and 3 you need to have PURCHESED the previous games, which due to not getting future updates are inferior products to their sequels.

I have beeen saing it from day one of Warhammer. The ppl that will play it have never played totall war and the ones that have wont stick for long. By the time of the 2nd it was clear that RU-vidrs where just playng it because the money was there. The new ppl think warhamer was some god tier totall war game because they didnt know beter and just atack the Shogun and Medieval lovers ( historical fans as a hole ). And let me tell thouse fans someting, the magic, grafics, mehanics and sound in warhamer arent even that good and they espetialy dont have the Grim Dark fealing of warhammer. Its a bit like if some one makes a Blade animation for kids. But hey, stupid, blind, deft or misinformed ppl deserve to be swindled.

At this point I think that historical fans are putting words in the mouths of others that they never said.

i love three kingdoms the series. not total war three kingdoms. but one of the funniest things about the total war three kingdoms game. is the game never even made it to the three kingdoms part of the story.