Warhammer Lore The Great Horned Rat and Verminlords 

So essentially the aspects of the other chaos gods without their virtuous aspects. Khorne's mindless slaughter without the honor Tzeench's plotting without care for the bigger picture Nurgle's cycle of stagnation cut off, with nothing to continue after rot Slaanesh's hedonism without the pleasure I like that, sums up the skaven perfectly

​@@thetsarofall8666 this is why I like to headcannon that malice/malal is chaos but with order to tempt it, destruction of everything around him so something more may grow, he is the end and the beginning, he is terror but he wants you to fight him, he is the madness that infects but he is also the helper who gives them comfort, malice is the very end of all chaos gods and their very beginning of the gods of order as well

I think I know what idea formed the GHR: existential fear. Think about it. The Skaven have nothing but their own lives and their own accomplishments. They seek to become more than they are, committing their atrocities in the hopes they’ll be remembered. In the hopes they can make it before they’re gone from existence. They’re scared, frightened, little children playing at adulthood for the fear that they’ll cease to exist at any moment. They hide this fear with exaggerated words and egos. With great accomplishments, they boast to try and forget just how scared they are for every second of their lives. And their god, so bathed in his own terror, as to fear his children’s power over him. For that, he subjugates them as little more than pawns in a game he can’t even pretend to understand to play. And fear without temperance always leads to ruin, removing the best aspects of other great attributes.

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An understandable mindset, however you forget that *all* gods start that way. I can actually help prove it, too! Imagine, if you will, a vast ocean. Like all things do, life crawls out of this ocean upon the islands standing defiantly against the current. Eventually does this life seek to explore, to learn and so they swim and sail about this ocean to the best of their ability. As a consequence of venturing back into the womb from whence it came, this life creates ripples in the ocean. Filth falls off the skin and fills the water around it. All things around it-in their natural order-are suddenly met with anomalous substance in their waters. Unable to do much else, all within the ocean adapts as more of this contamination falls off the boats and bodies entering the water from above. To adapt, one must eat and grow. To do that, others must perish. As the earliest instances of our souls gaining sapience was war held, birthing Khorne out of his dormancy-having feasted greatly on the lesser entities in the Realm of Chaos. From here was the first Chaos God born in true, his name and power sending shockwaves through the realm that he called his home. Thus did the cycle repeat itself a dozen fold, with daemons and entities of the Sea of Souls growing independent of whatever masters might’ve owned them. The Great Gatherer, The Coiling Ones, The Ever Raging Flame and The Devourer of Existence are such examples of daemons whom grew to become gods themselves-diving low to hide in the abyss wherein the greater gods might not find them in those inky depths. It's how all of the gods came to be, sans a couple (Morghur, for example is a mortal whom attained deific status). This means, you're right....and wrong, simultaneously. Beautiful how Chaos works, innit?

I think Horned Rat is the god evil, he embodies the negative traits of the four chaos gods without the positive aspects.

@@wyvernnemecek595 TL;DR

@@slebenacht8465 CHAOS IS OCEAN, GO BRRRRR

Anyone ever seen the spot in The Plaguefathers Domain called "The Lair of the Thirteenth Lord"?

Seems more Nurgle than anything.

Okay, after watching the video I see where you're coming from. Skaven themselves always struck me as a combination of goblins (hordes of small, sneaky, cowards) and dwarves (machinery and technology)

The lying of Tzeentch, the hygiene of Nurgle, the anger or Khorne, the cruelty of Slaanesh, and the not existingnes of Malal.

or maybe...mayyyybe.... the horned one is Malal

Maybe the chaos gods are actually aspects of the horned rat and not the other way around. He seems to be the äquivalent of the devil too, especially if you look at the story that mirrors the tower of Babylon (don't remember the name of the story tho) where a bell drove a whole city mad and corrupted it because they struck a pact to complete a tower in honor of their gods...

Nahhh he die at the hand of thorgrim

@@jfp1809 if end times count as canon

Btw way most people do not know this but warhammer fantasy came first

Mala is Malice but copyrighted avoided

He maybe could come back as a Verminlord Warbringer?

@@shumakarimani241 gonna be honest I was thinking about that, if Queek came back with his dwarf gouger and trophy rack on his back that would make for an amazing model and boy would that be amazing. But I also don't think that would happen, since he didn't follow the horned rat, or give him any real worship.

@@kampi798 the horned rat seems to like those who dont follow him and given queeks beneficial insanity i would say its a blessing

@@kampi798 where does it say queek doesn't worship the horned rat? All skaven worship the Great Horned Rat and Queek even screams his name in a few of his short stories

@@kampi798 I think it’s the Grey Seers that Queek disdains rather than The Horned Rat.

Battle march was really underrated it was a fun Warhammer rts before total war did it. Plus they actually nailed the cool chaos Deamons and other unit rosters. Wish it was more popular in its time then it ended up bejng

@@UnholyWrath3277 I like total war warhammer because it showed me that there were a wider range of races and factions to choose from such as the lizardmen, the ogre kingdoms and norsca to name a few of my favorites.

@@thegametroll6264 well ya I like total war Warhammer as well it did the genre well I was just saying battle march did the idea before it and wasnt as popular as total war showed it could have been. My only gripe with total wars take was chaos lacking a huge portion of the potential roster it could have had but supposedly that will be a big priority of total war Warhammer 3 so fingers crossed

@@UnholyWrath3277 the beastmen are my favorite children of chaos and I would like to see them get the rework the deserve at this point.

From what I understand the reason it is mentioned as them using Glave's is that the Warbringers are the most common type actually seen in battle and therefore the most often associated when talking about Verminlords in general. Similar to how when you think of Bloodthirsters you usually assume they have axes, but the could use swords or flails in the lore. So, hopefully that answers your question. Also, thanks for watching and commenting.

Thank you! So much for your time! BTW Give Majorkiller's video "The Age of Sigmar explained by an Australian!" It's so funny!

Already have.

It is stated that Verminlords are as tall as a Giant. Which has quite a bit of variance, but I would put them in the very large category.

@@jumbothick2984 awesome! Big rats make big plague!

Warhammer fantasy came first

And the Wiki page is sourced from the Army Books and Roleplay that I litterally read from.

It's not a competition.

blazednlovinit when did I say it was. I think this channel is better than arch

Arch is as toxic as a chihuahua shit