I have to say that i really like the idea of 25mm bases. At first glance i didn't liked it, but then i realise how often i had problem with positioning models in a unit. It will give more freedom with glueing. I am rebasing my old 6ed skaven army and looking forward to TOW :)
I completely agree, I think it’s a really sensible move, and will solve so many problems. I think there’s a couple of examples where 20mm still worked, Goblins being one of those, but I think they still good.
I’ve been working on a large goblin horde and have been using gw models for it. They’ll probably be used for mostly dnd, so I put them all on 25mm circle bases and I love how they have been setting on them.
Now I’ve based the one I think it will look good, different to before though. I will have to get around to rebasing my sons soon, luckily he’s not painted very much of them yet at all.
There’s going to be a few armies that look a bit odd at first I think. I did like goblins on 20s, but I think the overall change is a good one, so I can put up with it I think. My sons are still on 20s, at some point soon I’ll probably start rebasing (along with my dwarfs).
Looks fantastic for such a quick paint job. Should be able to do an army of them in... still ages because you need hundreds... :( Would love to see your speedpaint take on some squigs.
Horde armies should still be allowed 20mm bases, unless bigger basic base sizes are coming too, if goblins and skeletons are going to 25mm then chaos warriors and orcs should go up to 30mm.
They’ve said some 25mm bases will increase in size as well. As they’ve said being able to rank up is one of the main reasons for this, I think it’s pretty safe to assume that Chaos Warriors and Orcs will be among the ‘old 25s’ that do. Looking forward to the release of the base sizing doc they mentioned at Fest so we can find out what size they will be, think it could be a little while off yet though. By looking at the picture of the Bret Knights, I think it looks like a 39x60mm, there have been rumours around that match that as well, so I think 30mm squares is likely a good guess.
My approach to paint this sort of large project is to to test variations of the paint scheme (like different greys on the cloth, different way to paint the skin, drybrush different undertones...). Then tie things together by being consistent on the basing. It gives a more organic look as a whole and is less boring to do.
I was actually thinking about this, I’ve added it to my list. It won’t be the next one, but it’s one I definitely want to do so won’t be too far off. Need to head to eBay to find a suitable victim 🙂
Great job, I must say that small figures look a bit lost on 25mm sqare bases. I think as for Goblins thwre might a chance that they will stick to 20mm bases. Anyways, right now I like the idea of getting movement bases that act as TOW base adapers
Thank you. 🙂 I think movement trays are a good idea, there will be plenty of options like that on the market. You may be right, but they were pretty clear in the article and at Warhammer Fest, that ‘all’ 20mm with go up to 25mm.
No that’s just a guess I’ve made by looking at pictures and sizing it up. I don’t think I’ll be far off, but it could easily turn out to be 62x32mm etc. I decided to go ahead as it was a bit of fun for the video, I’ve only based 8 models that way though, so not too much work if I’m wrong.
Personal preference entirely but this is way too dark a green for goblin skin imo. If you look at all the box art they tend to have this really pale, sickly green with bluish hues in the shades which is super hard (maybe impossible) to recreate with contrast paints. Great video otherwise for getting a good finish on painting a lot of goblins, just the skin that isn't right for me.
Thank you for the comments, I wasn’t really trying to match any particular box art, just offer one solution. Like you said, personal preference. There are quite a few lighter Contrast/Speedpaint/Xpress colour paints, so it’s definitely possible to go lighter with these paints. It’s also possible to highlight further to achieve a lighter effect as well. Appreciate your thoughts and input though, thank you.
IMO one of the things that i would do with models like this on a 25mm square base is to dont center the model i think (i hadnt try it) that if you scatter them you can give them an interesting irregular formation look like you would do on multibasing rather than the ordered covid formation But as i say is just an idea that i hadnt try
That’s a really nice idea, if I was doing an army for myself I think I’d try that. Could work really well with mdf bases, them being tightly packed with no gaps due to the lip would enhance this effect I think.
I'm doing that on the night goblins that just arrived at my house, but keeping the high elves centered on the 25s. I should make a vid tomorrow as it's good to see how everything looks on 25s
@@markysgeeklab8783 My main problem is that i tended to use historicals and historicals on 25mm doesnt look rigth More heroic models on 25 dont look bad
I'm slightly confused Stuart. I thought zenithal was the technique not the colour, so when you said you weren't going to use zenithal and then sprayed from above - albeit grey not white - I thought 'Eh? He just did!'
I was referring to it not being a zenithal underpainting/pre-highlight/pre-shade, before other colours go on top. Yes in this case the technique is the same, but I was highlighting the point that it was slightly different to the other tutorials in the series at that point.
That’s an interesting rumour that one, I’ve been trying to remember if both factions shared sprues, so that’s why they might need to release it as a joint set, same with Island of Blood.
I think it’s a good rumour, I can definitely seem them releasing the minis from those sets for people to get started. I hope they do it, the High Elves and Skaven are very good, he Dwarves a little small.
I noticed that during painting the stuff that adds up to most time is switching between colors and fixing mistakes. That's easily 50-70% of the time actually spent on painting a model for me. The goblin looks amazing. I really need to check out contrast or equivalent pains at some point.
My Orc boyz I have painted grid numbers on the bottom of bases because I built them dynamically working around previously built models, so they will only rank up one way. Bigger bases is probably for the best, will likely mean I can be more flexible with them!
I’ve had to do something very similar with my sons Orcs, I’ve even used small unit fillers that actually provide a bit more room for models around them.
This was a good video. I had my own method, but it was much longer, as I was only painting a limited number... but have since started a true army. Thanks for talking about alternates to the airbrush, also. I think it's important (most of us don't own one).
It’s a Gloomspite Git Gobkin yes, but they’re obviously just night goblins. This was recorded in May last year, long before any of the old fantasy range was re-released, and I’d bough quite a few of these for my son for him to start a fantasy army. In terms of painting techniques, it’s exactly the same.
@@MiniatureRealms would honestly love to see all the Elector states and thier "special" units (eg carroburg greatwords) but Riekland first ;) lol yeah its difficult I've had a couple of goes but I can't get it quite right.
I think my next TOW tutorial is going to be a Knight of the Realm for my own army, but after that I’ll be doing the next in this series, and that will be an Empire state troop. Will definitely be one that uses white, and maybe some red, so Riekland is a high chance, and if not it will cover the colours you need anyway.
How did they word it, is it certain that all models will get bigger bases? Night goblins are so tiny, they could stay. Or are 20mm totally going away? it looks a little weird, yeah.. Nice painting though. I have 20 with short bows to paint toon.. Did 40 with spears earlier this year. This will help to get these better.
Thank you. I can see me having to paint a lot of my sons for him, so the basic half way method will keep me sane I think. They were pretty clear that all 20mm will go up to 25mm, then some 25mm and larger bases will also increase. Not sure why they didn’t keep some 20s, but I’m sure they have a reason.
@@MiniatureRealms It works, looking good so.. :) Ah ok. These NGs looka little weird with them I think but it is alright? I would lvoe to have the odler Brian nelson sculpts, they would probably look better on 25mm than these?
Maybe, it’s hard not to love those sculpts on any base. But Hess are the newest ones, so probably larger than the old ones, I’m assuming some scale creep, but that will help fill out the base a little.
Just discovered you channel and am loving it. I want to start my own orcs and goblin army to compete with my dwarf army for when the old world comes out. That’s for the vid!
