The Red Cross on a white background was created at the 1864 Geneva Convention. I don't know of it's use in the ACW, but I haven't specifically searched for it.
Yep so it seems, I’ve been chatting with another commenter about this. I wonder if they’ve added it without realising, or confused images they’ve worked from. I’ll probably file mine off.
Great review! The ambulance model got my curiosity up, so I pulled out some books from my reference library. I'm quite doubtful if Civil War ambulances ever actually had that medical "Red Cross" symbol and if it was ever actually seen in the field during the war. The symbol itself was established in 1863/64 in Europe I believe. But I don't think a universal medical symbol like that was ever adopted during the Civil War. Now to be sure, both sides did have forms of various "Ambulance Corps" that were with the armies. But to my knowledge neither side ever adopted any sort of official badge or symbol to mark uniforms or transports. Now another twist to this is that it appears that Warlord games did a bit of misguided research on this. They probably saw in a reference book a typical Union army supply wagon that coincidentally had a Union Army SIXTH CORPS badge on it. Which just happened to be a St. Andrews Cross. And it so happened that the First Division badge color was RED. To add further possible confusion, Union army corps badges for all army corps were red for First Division, white for Second Division, and blue for Third Division, and as I said previously, for the 6th Corps it was a St. Andrews Cross, sometimes straight and sometimes leaning to one side. So somebody at Warlord saw a 6th Corps, First Division corps badge on a period transport vehicle in a vintage photo possibly, and thought it was a medical symbol, which it is not. The other problem with the model is that it's not an ambulance. That is much closer to the design of a typical army supply wagon. Which means in summary, this is actually a model of a Sixth Army Corps, First Division supply wagon. Now of course that doesn't mean that the armies didn't improvise and use whatever transports they could get after a huge battle. I just don't know how prevalent it was to use army supply wagons to transport wounded, particularly on the Union side.
Plenty of Union soldiers wore slouch hats even in the Army of the Potomac, memoirs mention it, and orders kept being issued forbiding it so it must of been a fairly common practice.
Yep they absolutely did, but I can understand some people wanting the option to not have them. I don’t mind too much personally, but I would certainly purchase an alternative sprue if they produced one.
also Union did not wear their blankets wrapped around them drop them when you fix kepi hats i will buy all new Union and turn the others into Confederates
Looks fab Stu and although not painting this range at the moment I will be buying these as plan to go back to it, Already got the union and rebs command miniatures bought and still to paint that came out a few months ago. Can’t wait to see urs painted as always a pleasure. Great vid mate 👍
The Ambulance comes with the ones shown in the video, so I’m sure sure the others will as well, but I don’t have them to check. You will probably find the info listed on the Warlord Games website.
Just in case anyone reading this doesn't want to go through my long-winded post below: That transport model is actually not a Union army Civil War "ambulance." It's a Sixth Army Corps, First Division supply wagon. The St. Andrews Cross is not a medical symbol, it's the corps badge for the Sixth Corps, First Division, which was red.
That’s really interesting Mike, Warlord are definitely calling it an Ambulance on their website and very much so in the description. Have they added the Red Cross by mistake, thinking it was something else do you think? Sorry I can’t see your other comment, it’s hidden from me in my app and in general, did you post a link or something, looks like RU-vid might have removed it (definitely wasn’t me).
I removed the external link from the other comment, I'll try to post it again. I explain in that what I think happened at Warlord. I mean it's not a huge deal in terms of the overall scheme of things. But my historical OCD got the better of me when I saw it, lol.@@MiniatureRealms
That’s all right, just wanted you to know as I don’t think anyone would have seen what you’re referring to. Have you seen the description on their website, do you think they’ve basically copied the wagon from the wrong image, or just added the cross where is shouldn’t be?
I think that because the Red Cross is such a universally recognized medical symbol, Warlord assumed that medical wagons must have had them during the Civil War. Now I could be wrong, there may very well be a reference somewhere to some units using it as the symbol for the Ambulance Corps. But in all my years of reading and research, I've never seen it used on a Civil War medical transport or as a symbol on a medic's armband, etc. You don't really see the Red Cross symbol being used on medics' uniforms until at least WWI and WWII. @@MiniatureRealms
