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@user-qs6hq6cz8c
@user-qs6hq6cz8c 6 месяцев назад
The really big question here is WHY doesn’t Honda’s extended warranty cover the audio unit? I thought the warranty was a ‘bumper to bumper’ warranty.The next question being, does Honda know there is a design flaw in the audio unit and that being the reason for non-coverage? I just know that more and more shortcomings I hear and see about with the new Goldwing makes me wish I had my 2005 model instead of the 2023 Tour model that I just purchased. If for no other reason than the fact that the ‘05 model is a hell of a lot more comfortable……especially the seat!
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Not sure why they exclude the audio system, especially since a completely failure makes changing ride modes impossible,
@bill4562
@bill4562 12 дней назад
They do.
@jimmyt55
@jimmyt55 6 месяцев назад
Good ‘PSA’ . I know there is a lot to consider when touching such intricate machinery as our latest GL1800! Fuse 25 is easy to remember, and right there next to the battery. Thanks from all who received this message. I just put a trickle charger on for keeping battery up, via a quick connection ( standard polarized two prong push/pull insulated)
@michaelcadiz1004
@michaelcadiz1004 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas n Happy New Year to you n Yours Chris. To date no issues with my 2021 DB bagger. I did have to replace the battery early on, have not had any further problems. Thanks for the update.
@Alan-qh8su
@Alan-qh8su 12 дней назад
4:13 is where the useful info starts to remove fuse #25 before jumping to spare the audio unit damage
@jimcfds
@jimcfds 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas Cruiseman and thank you for the tip. I purchased a new GL1800 Tour back in July 2023 and keep the battery hooked to a Battery Tender in the garage. No battery issues thus far and no jump starts. I will definitely be interested to hear what Honda has to say about this subject. Enjoy your time in Midland with your family. Cheers, James. PS: Thanks for the videos. PPS: I purchased your maintenance videos shortly after taking delivery of my bike.
@user-pw5dt9ie6n
@user-pw5dt9ie6n 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Chris & Ricki!!
@joefichtenkort1149
@joefichtenkort1149 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas Cruiseman. Thanks for the heads-up.
@RTC_TampaBay
@RTC_TampaBay 6 месяцев назад
I had to jump start my 2019 bagger on 2 occasions before finally swapping out the battery with a lithium battery 👍🏻 I guess I was lucky and no issues with the infotainment system! Thanks for the heads up, look forward to hear what you find out from Honda.
@brucespicer3957
@brucespicer3957 6 месяцев назад
2018 wing, jump started it about two years ago because of a dead battery. Jumped it from the huge battery of the auto hauler truck. Started, ran fine and no more problems. Replaced the battery with a NOCO Lithium and no problems since. Merry Christmas Cruisman!
@timhawkins2502
@timhawkins2502 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the input! and Merry Christmas!
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Same to you!
@grahambrown3546
@grahambrown3546 6 месяцев назад
Merry christmas buddy thankyou for your helpful tips
@motorider4130
@motorider4130 6 месяцев назад
I saw this same comment on a Goldwing forum recently about this same issue. Better safe than sorry! I have recently just replaced my audio unit after it completely failed on me during a weekend trip. I was actually able to get it covered under my extended warranty which I purchased from Blue Ridge Powersports about 2 years ago. Good thing I did that! Merry Christmas to you and your family! 🎄
@benjaminbailey7429
@benjaminbailey7429 6 месяцев назад
What year bike and anything like a dead/low battery etc maybe could have caused your issue?
@motorider4130
@motorider4130 6 месяцев назад
@@benjaminbailey7429 it’s a 2018 and I checked the battery with and without load…also checked all the fuses. Nothing wrong with either battery or fuses.
@Hogdriver88
@Hogdriver88 2 месяца назад
Jon you dodged a bullet with that one!
@motorider4130
@motorider4130 2 месяца назад
@@Hogdriver88 no joke!
@mikespicer2810
@mikespicer2810 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video Cruiseman. No issues yet. Have a Merry Christmas as well.
@jameswilliams4775
@jameswilliams4775 6 месяцев назад
Sounds like good advice whether you can confirm it or not. Better safe than sorry.
@s.k.y_kitty3godward850
@s.k.y_kitty3godward850 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas Chris ,and thanks tip Englishman Chris 🇬🇧
@carlhunt8494
@carlhunt8494 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Chris, that's cheap insurance! I like the sticker idea good for us old guys who would forget when we maybe had to do that. Merry Christmas, thanks for all you do for our GW community.
@gwrider2146
@gwrider2146 6 месяцев назад
The same for me !!😅
@whatsupeh1
@whatsupeh1 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the heads up. Last summer, during a 5 week tour on my ‘21 GoldWing Tour, my battery showed signs of failing. For the last 10 days or so, I had to jumpstart it every morning with my Scosche booster pack. Once started, it was good for the whole day. It didn’t cause any issues with the bike whatsoever. That’s not saying that it never would. I replaced the battery as soon as we got home. I carry the jump starter with me every day, just in case and if I ever have to boost the battery again, I will do as you suggest and remove that #25 fuse. Better safe than sorry. Thanks again. Have a great Christmas!
@gregoryjones3072
@gregoryjones3072 6 месяцев назад
Excellent information. ‘21 DCT Tour - haven’t had to jump start it yet. Audio system is perfect, never had issues but if it comes down to needing a jump I will heed your advice. Would be a downer to have to replace. Merry Christmas!
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Glad it helped!
@terry4343
@terry4343 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas Chris
@HOWSOL1965
@HOWSOL1965 6 месяцев назад
❤Thank you so much for this information Merry Christmas
@jeromehebert3184
@jeromehebert3184 6 месяцев назад
Just purchased a 23 gw tour yesterday; rode it home from dealer about 60 miles and it was awesome; now reading manuals trying to figure out how everything works and how to setup bt, radio, etc. it is a lot to sink in.
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
That is awesome!
@KareemHadee
@KareemHadee 5 месяцев назад
Take your time. You will develop a system that works for you. Carry portable jumpers, a couple different flat tire kits (not that you need them) just as a precaution. I have found cruiseman's Maintenance videos and youtube videos to be invaluable. Well worth it!
@davidherringgo
@davidherringgo 6 месяцев назад
Merry christmas to you too cruise man
@samuroadventure1227
@samuroadventure1227 6 месяцев назад
Great information. I used my NOCO Boost Plus GB40 1000A yesterday on my 2022 DCT and everything was ok.
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Good to hear!
@chrisrethemeyer7060
@chrisrethemeyer7060 6 месяцев назад
It might be mentioned somewhere else in all these comments, but another good place to stick a "reminder" tag is on your jumper pack. (My Scosche now has one.) 🙂
@jimruddell3265
@jimruddell3265 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas!!!
@peterdrolet3592
@peterdrolet3592 6 месяцев назад
Good to know and easy to accomplish prior to jump starting the bike, thanks
@brianlittell6322
@brianlittell6322 6 месяцев назад
Great to know , I have a cable hanging out the hole of side cover to hook my jump box to ..thank the Good Lord above I haven't needed it.....Thanks Cruiseman....please keep us up to date.....Merry Christmas
@robertwhitemoto
@robertwhitemoto 6 месяцев назад
I've used my Scosche once, no issues.
@donalddick9040
@donalddick9040 6 месяцев назад
Same here,with no issues.
@russsaunders321
@russsaunders321 6 месяцев назад
same here no issues. @@donalddick9040
@theonlyredspecial
@theonlyredspecial 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas CM from Ireland 🎅🏻
@bradevans5622
@bradevans5622 6 месяцев назад
I thank for that update even if it is not true I will take the fuse number 25 for the audio out if I have to jump start my Goldwing. Brad from Pennsylvania,pa.
@benjaminbailey7429
@benjaminbailey7429 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas cruiseman. I’ve been seeing these post on FB and the forums pop up for several years now with the Audio Units failing and will pop the 15 amp fuse immediately. Everybody that has had this issue have a 2018 model bike. 19-23 I haven’t seen any reports. When the audio unit fails it does t allow for the ride modes to function which is a major safety issue. A couple have had Honda warranty this audio unit but the way they worded the claim as being a safety issue where they can’t access the ride modes, or the different modes for riding 2up etc. The owners that went to the dealer and said my audio and screen no longer works that’s the ones that the dealer pretty much told them to kick rocks and pony up the 3-3500$ repair bill. If this is only happening to 2018 bikes leads me to think that an update was made to the audio unit in 19 and newer to have better circuit protection for voltage spikes.
@da_ozman9599
@da_ozman9599 6 месяцев назад
I've been running a trickle charger since 2019 with no issues. Mind you it only runs about 4v. Wouldn't think a 12v Jumpstart would hurt anything. Will be interesting to hear what Honda has to say...
@nicholasscurti8001
@nicholasscurti8001 6 месяцев назад
In Colorado I was overjoyed to meet an old friend, hopped in his car & went to lunch, leaving the ignition on. Upon return, bike wouldn't start, so brought out plug in jumpers for Powerlet plug, but that didn't work. Later found I used too small a fuse, which blew, so jumped directly from his old Rover. Started right up & no problems since. Later converted to lithium, which is great.
@dray439
@dray439 6 месяцев назад
Very interested to see what Honda has to say. I've used a jump start kit at least twice on my '18 Tour, manual. I may have been lucky, but didn't have a problem. I was told, years ago, to never jump a bike from a vehicle, with the vehicle's motor running. The vehicle's charging system could fry the bike's electronics.
@elixier33
@elixier33 Месяц назад
Do you even know what you're talking about? The motorcycle will take whatever Not What You Give It. It doesn't matter if you put a giant caravan battery in there it makes no difference if you jump it or not because it's absolutely no different from the voltages and amperage is that you would use normally. Everything in life whether it's a motorcycle dishwasher an oven they just take what they need not what you give them.
@grahambrown3546
@grahambrown3546 6 месяцев назад
I have wired through a denali fuse box a smart charger that i can plug in to hopefully keep my goldwing battery maintained!👍
@4loyal
@4loyal 5 месяцев назад
Hello Cruiseman! I have on two different occasions had to jump start my 2023 DCT! Maybe I dodged the bullet but, no problem with my audio. I look forward to your followup report on this issue. Sincerely, Loyal.
@jgoogleheim8880
@jgoogleheim8880 6 месяцев назад
2018 was a transition year with the INTEGRATED STARTER GENERATOR (ISG) so maybe the 18s are susceptible and the newer bikes are updated and can be jumped without issue. Look forward to hearing if you get any information from Honda. Keep us posted.
@danrowley7002
@danrowley7002 4 месяца назад
I would like to mention something related that might be of interest. Some time ago, I placed a “smart” charger on my 2018 wing, not because the battery was discharged, but more to maintain charge, as it hadn’t been ridden for 10 days. As you may know, many automated chargers use SCRs to efficiently regulate power, as opposed to the older, more traditional chargers that use a simple transformer and rectifier; unfortunately, the clipped AC output possible from a smart charger can create a large amount of electrical noise and harmonics. Not a problem for a battery, but I did not disconnect my battery cables. Later, I found that my original key fob no longer started the bike (I was so glad I bought a spare fob earlier). For whatever reason, the bike would not recognize the fob, but in doing the fob program procedure, it began working again. An isolated incident? Possibly, but it seems to me that the electronics of this bike should have been designed with some real world safeguards- such as being harmed by a simple jumpstart described here. So, whatever it may be worth…..
@michellavoie1714
@michellavoie1714 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for the info Chris!
@chrisn.3153
@chrisn.3153 6 месяцев назад
I always fear shorting out something on any type of vehicle I jump start, whether it be with jumper cables or a jump pack. But I can say I've never had any issues by putting the positive contact on the terminal and grounding the negative on something metal.
@deanbounds
@deanbounds 6 месяцев назад
Don’t jump start ANY vehicle from another vehicle when the other vehicle is running. Especially these newer vehicles.
@user-ri4xb7ze2f
@user-ri4xb7ze2f 6 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot for your dedication 🌹
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
It's my pleasure
@kwakaj14
@kwakaj14 6 месяцев назад
merry chrismas to all & a happy new year .
@johndowning4244
@johndowning4244 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Happy holidays!
@apriliajo5030
@apriliajo5030 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to You too CG! At the start of your video you stated 2018+ (my '21 applies) then when you started The Warning Conversation you stated 2018 and older (2017---)? Either way I'll mark my battery, plus a Traxxion video mentioned an issue with the battery cable between the battery and the Fuse Box that caused issues too. Thx Again!
@frankward8003
@frankward8003 6 месяцев назад
I jumped started my bike one time back in 2018 because I left the music playing while cleaning the bike..no issues...btw, still have the OEM battery in my 2018
@cpuuk
@cpuuk 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas.
@bernhards.8529
@bernhards.8529 6 месяцев назад
Just these days I jump started my 2021 twice using a Noco GBX55 and have had no problems with the audio unit.
@stevemoore9951
@stevemoore9951 6 месяцев назад
GREETINGS FROM THE PPRC HAVE A 2025 F6B HAVE NEVER HAD TO JUMP IT. BOUGHT THE MAINTENANCE VIDEOS A FEW YEARS AGO AND THEY HAVE SAVED ME A lot OF MONEY, THANKS. MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄
@seatime674
@seatime674 6 месяцев назад
The 2025s are out??
@donalddick9040
@donalddick9040 6 месяцев назад
Wow that's thinking ahead 2025?
@garyedwards8142
@garyedwards8142 6 месяцев назад
You got time Time Machine ? 👍
@MartyGalbraith-ls8oc
@MartyGalbraith-ls8oc 6 месяцев назад
Thanks---better safe than sorry---Merry Christmas
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Same to you!
@billforrest9002
@billforrest9002 6 месяцев назад
Another awesome video buddy
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed
@michealsisson3404
@michealsisson3404 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas
@PedersonFamilyAdventures
@PedersonFamilyAdventures 5 месяцев назад
TY Cruiseman.. unfortunately, I have had to jump my 2020 DCT Bagger a couple of times. Fortunately, I have not had any issues from jumping the bike. I keep it on a tender now, up here in PA... and will have the battery checked next time I get over to our local dealer/service shop.
@nokiddingobama
@nokiddingobama 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the heads up. Can I ask you what type and model battery you use? I was thinking about switching over to a lithium battery... But not sure if that would work with the charging system as well as my battery tender jr. Thank you for all your videos... I have learned so much from you. Michael
@MVW54
@MVW54 6 месяцев назад
Hi Chris, for your information...I have jumpstarted my GL-1800-6 manually/2018 several times, never had any problems with the audio or GPS everything continued to function well afterwards... look forward to hear what you find out from Honda. 👍 From Belgium & Merry Christmas to you and your family!
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing
@scottkaplan7987
@scottkaplan7987 2 месяца назад
I have jump started my 18,21 and 22 several times and never had a problem either!
@MVW54
@MVW54 2 месяца назад
@@scottkaplan7987 Hi Scott... thanks for your answer. As for myself, since 1970 I have owned all kinds of motorcycles, mostly Honda. With each of my motorcycles I drove an average of more than 200,000 K without any significant problems. Now, more than fifty years later, I have more than one million kilometers on my odometer! When I read and hear what some "real" motorcyclists say about motorcycles... Pfff... Pfff... Pfff... yesada... I'm getting old! 😂😂😂
@eyesonly4451
@eyesonly4451 2 месяца назад
I jump started my 2021 Tour two weeks ago, without issue, using a Scosche PowerUp 700 lithium booster.
@user-cc3up1wo5u
@user-cc3up1wo5u 6 месяцев назад
Hiya - I live in UK and own a 2019 GL1800 Goldwing. In April 2023 I fitted a new battery (as per your advice saying it might be prudent to renew the battery every 3 years. In December 2023 I accidently drained the battery after leaving the bike powered up whilst updating my Tom Tom Rider Satnav that I had added to the bike to provide speed camera alerts and additional route facilities that the built-in satnav does not provide. The battery was totally flat. I always have my bike on an Optimate trickle charger 24/7 too. I left the bike charging overnight but the next day the bike ignition would not illuminate or do anything. The Optimate charger indicated it was fully charged - both green LED's on. I checked the battery voltage and it was 13.3 volts but the bike ignition would not come on. At this stage i did not know if there was a fault with the bike so I used some battery jump cables onto another battery and the bike started up first time. I kept the bike running for 10 minutes after removing the jumper cables to hopefully boost the bike battery. I then turned off the bike but yet again no ignition lights came on and hence would not start again. I purchased a GooLoo portable battery jump starter device and wired it to my bike - it worked flawlessly without damaging the audio functions on the bike. Hopefully it will stay that way but I do appreciate your advice on removing Fuse 25. It will be interesting to hear any response from Honda that you may receive. I then decided to remove the battery and placed it on a more powerful Optimate with a deep recovery function but again after leaving it overnight the bike failed to respond to anything. In total frustration i put my original battery back on the bike and it started first time! I bought the new battery off eBay in April and it had a one year warranty. The seller honoured its replacement and have now fitted this to my Goldwing. It seems that the battery voltage was correct when charged but when any kind of load was applied it just catastrophically failed. I hope this comment will help other riders if they do come across a similar battery failure. Thanks for your very interesting videos and advice on the Honda Goldwing. I always enjoy them. I apologise for the long comment too :)
@flyboy1ron
@flyboy1ron 6 месяцев назад
A friend of mine has the 2017 GL1800 and of course his display is different than the 2018+ models. He told me last week, they are replacing his display screen again, and this makes it the 6th time. He told me it has been covered under his Honda Extended warranty. He says the screen pixels start going out again. I checked the price on his LCD display and it retails for $2,654.85. The one on the 2018+ retails for $3,072.13. I have also heard that Honda will replace the 2018+ display because it shows the bikes information such as what gear you are in, suspension setting, mileage, and all that stuff so it is covered under warranty because you need to see all of that. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
@jforu33
@jforu33 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas to you as well sir. What wind deflectors beneath the mirrors did you settle on?
@genequies8731
@genequies8731 6 месяцев назад
Hey brother, been awhile. Probably a good thought for other rides as this type of system may not be unique to Honda. Systems are Systems. Merry Christmas.
@KareemHadee
@KareemHadee 5 месяцев назад
Hey Cruiseman, I own a black 2021 touring DCT. I have completed over 8 different Iron Butt rides on this bike and I love it! Once on a SS1500 Gold my bike died at a truck stop. I tried to jump my bike, and I may have connected the cables wrong. As a result the check engine light came on, but that was about all. There was a honda dealership in the local town, and I stopped there after jumping my bike (with a portable jumper the next day). They checked out the bike and could not find any issues. I had to change out the stock battery because of the issues it caused. I'll keep your suggestion in mind of removing the fuses to jump the bike as it makes sense. I also change how I start my motorcycle ever since this incident (and a similar one that occurred afterward). When I put the key in the ignition I start my bike right away because a lot of the electronics (ie: radio/sound-system) will quickly drain the battery. Also if your battery dies because of extended audio usage (Or accessories), It takes roughly ~150-200miles of highway riding after a jump start for the regulator/rectifier to completely recharge the battery. I carry two different portable jump starters as I have found them to be unreliable as well. I try to keep them charged the night before a long ride. But If I forget I'll charge one while on a long extended ride. $2k for a new headlight? OUCH! How often do you need to replace the headlight?
@MrNew122
@MrNew122 6 месяцев назад
Just great....now motorcycles are so hi-tech, we can't even jump start them anymore!
@gregcautrell1259
@gregcautrell1259 6 месяцев назад
I've heard for years that on newer cars with lots of electronics you shouldn't jump car to car with the other car running. It causes a sudden surge from the running car's charging system that can fry delicate electronics. A good jump starter unit is safer, but knowing how to use it properly is equally important. I'm sure this could be a problem on a lot of motorcycles and cars, with all the electronics used these days.
@teevee8944
@teevee8944 5 месяцев назад
older Mercedes cars had this problem if you jumped the battery it "could" not every time but often enough blow your whole dash. and the cure was the same remove the dash solenoid.
@manueldignard7842
@manueldignard7842 23 дня назад
I’ve jumpstarted my 2019 Goldwing Tour DCT a few times already. Each time there was something weird about it. The dash would display straight lines across where the “TOUR” would be displayed. It would stay like that for the ride. Then a shot off for a few minutes. Turn back on and everything was back to normal.
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 23 дня назад
Strange
@thomas5040
@thomas5040 6 месяцев назад
This seems to only affect the 2018 Goldwing. Honda is well aware of the issue and made changes for the 2019+ bikes. Lewis at EC is working on a repair for the board. Plenty of info on the most popular Goldwing Forum.
@danielsacha3716
@danielsacha3716 6 месяцев назад
22 tour jumped when bike was new as dealer didn't tighten positive terminal. No issues, but ill pull fuse #25 as a precaution
@JohnSherman2
@JohnSherman2 6 месяцев назад
Makes sense jump box may cause damage because if bike battery is open cell or high internal battery resistance with a bad battery; as a result, if external jumper box can output a higher voltage than the bikes OEM battery; as a result, then jumper box, with higher the normal 12 V battery output voltage, damage many electronic components that are now standard equipment on most motorcycles. I believe that most jumper boxes rely on the vehicle battery to hold the Jumper box output voltage to a controlled reasonable level. A motorcycle battery might just be too small to do that voltage maintenance required
@franckydenys8539
@franckydenys8539 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas Cruiseman francky belgium
@bosshogg57
@bosshogg57 2 месяца назад
Cruiseman, we're now into April, is there any update on this subject from Honda or by others?
@gwrider18m92
@gwrider18m92 6 месяцев назад
Always connect the negative last and disconnect the negative first, motorcycle, car, whatever, on the vehicle being started or the one supplying power. I work on modern transport and deal with these things on a daily basis, be careful and think about what you are doing when involved with these procedures, CAN systems are robust but care must be taken when working with them.
@bearhuggy643
@bearhuggy643 2 месяца назад
Now that this is April 2nd 2024 and with all the new problems with the new flagship does this make the old goldwings more valuable? Thank you cruzeman 👍🏿
@richardarceneaux4514
@richardarceneaux4514 6 месяцев назад
Fred has been talking about this on GL1800rider
@floydthorne6444
@floydthorne6444 6 месяцев назад
I have an SAE Bulkhead mounted that I could use the Jump Starter without needing to remove a side panel.
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Will an SAE handle a jump starter power?
@paulrose576
@paulrose576 6 месяцев назад
Hi you should put the positive to the battery and the negative to the engine block when jumpstarting stops spiking energy
@elixier33
@elixier33 Месяц назад
The battery stops the spikes anyway I mean that's the point having a battery. And the gold ring like all other devices only take what they need not what you give them.
@clemc5457
@clemc5457 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas, 5:48 Cruiseman. Thank you for the heads up. Great suggestion. I’m confused about your comment though (5:45) “…turn it off, put the fuse back in, start up the bike like normal…” I doubt the bike would start up again if I turned it off right after having to jump start it. Maybe that’s not what you meant. I suspect leaving the fuse out until I put a new battery in would make more sense.
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
I suppose that depends on the level of damage to your battery. You are correct that in some cases, your battery may be completely shot and will not crank the engine, even after building up a charge. I will clarify this in a future video.
@wjb2
@wjb2 6 месяцев назад
i read something about this and the issue seemed to be jump starting from a vehicle with its engine running. Possibly transient spikes coming from that vehicle charging system. Via the alternator. I’ve a 21 DCT tour , luckily not had to use the booster pack i carry.
@gwrider2146
@gwrider2146 6 месяцев назад
I have actually damaged a running car's alternator while jump starting another car that was completely dead, but the dead car had a push button start system, and it acted weird and switched the starter off and on which I wonder perhaps as to why it had damaged the running car's alternator?
@seniorsouthwick976
@seniorsouthwick976 6 месяцев назад
My initial thoughts on this as a retired electrician, would be directed to the auxillary voltage source (booster pack, secondary vehicle, or plug-in charging/boosting unit) as the culprit for the issue rather than an achilles heal of the GoldWings. Most of today’s vehicle (motorcycle, auto, tractor,etc.) electrical/ electronic systems are protected or engineered to work within a certain voltage spread. If the supplied voltage is too low, things either just don’t work or become erratic. If the voltage is too high, some components shut down or just burn-out. But a point to consider is that fuses do not protect against over-voltage. They protect against over-current or over-flow of electricity within a circuit. Yes, the level of voltage does play a role in the level of current flow but there can be circumstances where a high voltage can be applied to an electrical or electronic component before there is any level of current flow to be sensed, or measured, by the fuse or circuit breaker. If the circuit resistance of the component isn’t great enough to control or withstand the higher than normal voltage, in most cases it will be damaged to a point of non-function along with further effecting the voltage and current flow to other components. Maybe a good analogy would be to consider taking the extremely high voltage present at the primary side of your home’s transformer and applying that to your home’s electrical panel. With all circuit breakers turned on when the high voltage is applied, this voltage will will get past the circuit breakers to the home’s appliances and lighting fixtures before the circuit breakers can react to a level of current beyond its trip level. The high voltage is able to either burn through or short-circuit the electrical and electronic components. So the point here is that depending on what is being used to supply the “jumping voltage”, could have a damaging impact on the GoldWing’s electronic and electrical components. I would agree with CM in his advisory for the removal of the fuse, if only to reduce the likelihood of a higher voltage getting to the audio unit by the inherent disconnection of one of the two (+ & -) voltage supply lines. But, I would also note that there will be at least some energization of electrical, and more importantly electronic components, even if fuse #25 is removed for the jump-starting. Hence, if the secondary (booster) voltage supply is putting out an overly high voltage, other things could be also damaged. Hopefully the take away here is that the use of well engineered and manufactured (quality) chargers and booster packs are key to reducing the odds of having a very costly issue.
@youcanthide004
@youcanthide004 6 месяцев назад
***DISCLAIMER*** I hear ya / Either way not a bad a bad idea. Merry Christmas, Safe Travels, Healthy New Year.
@lanresoetan9873
@lanresoetan9873 6 месяцев назад
Hello CM, great work btw. Quick question btw. How did you mount your 360 camera on the handlebar and are you happy with the results?
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
amzn.to/3TL1NeG - amzn.to/48vw9WP
@royroyfus6113
@royroyfus6113 6 месяцев назад
I have a 2018 GW Tour. I have used battery tenders in the past for winter storage. This fall my battery was slowly dying and while I was at Home Depot, I couldn’t start the bike. My wife drove to me and I jumped from her car battery. I then replaced my battery with a new one and bought a battery jump starter for future issues. I have not used the jump starter and I have not had any issues from the jump start from the car. Could the issue be the jump starters vs a jump from another motor vehicle?
@goldwingrocks3859
@goldwingrocks3859 6 месяцев назад
I just dont think its a good practice to jump start a motorcycle from an automobile period. Any motorcycle. This is why I carry a small jumper box with me. Thank you Cruisman. And Merry Christmas.
@stevenfranjesevic974
@stevenfranjesevic974 4 месяца назад
I am experiencing this right now. I haven't jump started my Goldwing, but I had the battery on a charger all winter. I started her up last week and found that my audio unit (and display screen) was dead in the water and the audio fuse was blown. I did some trouble shooting, but can't get it back. Going to have to make an appt with Honda I guess.
@garyedwards8142
@garyedwards8142 6 месяцев назад
Good advice for the 18+. Merry Christmas all… 🇬🇧👍
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Same to you
@michellavoie1714
@michellavoie1714 6 месяцев назад
Happy New year Chris! A friend who own a 2013 GL1800 had is radio failling after the dealership's mecanic try to jumping stard the bike last spring. Now is doesn't know if the mecanic inavertanly inverterd the polarity or of he did booster it properly but the result was the same, à blowout radio. Also could you confirm if you have a video on how to replace the air filter on a 6th generation GL with airbag on your vedeo series? Ride safe Always! M.L.
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 5 месяцев назад
I do not SPECIFICALLY show how to replace the air filter on an airbag model, but it is virtually identical to the non-airbag. I will be amending my air filter video soon to go into more detail on this. The airbag canister is in the same location, and mounts the same as the center pocket. You don't even need to unplug it and remove it, you can just move it off to one side to gain access to the air cleaner box. HOWEVER, *IMPORTANT!* _Always disconnect the negative cable on your battery before working on an airbag model._
@wadeblake3451
@wadeblake3451 6 месяцев назад
Jump started my 2022 dct. Wasn’t an issue.
@07GoldWinger
@07GoldWinger 26 дней назад
It is not just using a jump start, the 18 and 19 models may fail for any voltage spike, even the ISG will blow it. Source? My ‘18 did this with a good battery and not being jumped. The ISG did it. Cost $4,000 to repair. Honda will NOT warranty it.
@BruxBrule
@BruxBrule 6 месяцев назад
Good info, it'll be interesting to hear what Hondo says. Do you know if this applies to 2012-2017 models?
@benjaminbailey7429
@benjaminbailey7429 6 месяцев назад
No only 2018
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
As far as I know, it is only the 2018+
@soundadviceb2b
@soundadviceb2b 6 месяцев назад
can we get dvds or printed versions of your service manuald ....vimeo does not work
@mikec9162
@mikec9162 6 месяцев назад
2018+ Goldwing tour here. I have used a jump battery pack without issues at all. Consider this: There are a plethora of cheap quality jump starts available out there. Perhaps the problem is a faulty jump product or simply misuse during implementation causing a short in the attempt to jump. I guarantee it's a minuscule number of issues amplified by social media per usual suspects.
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Possible. It also might be that the bikes were jumped from a car battery with the car engine running, which can cause issues.
@donmunroe8148
@donmunroe8148 6 месяцев назад
Certainly the safe advice until clarification is made from Honda. My concern is jump starting can be anywhere from a portable jump start battery to hooking jumper cables up to a running car or truck. I have “jump started” my 2006 wing before off a car battery but the car MUST NOT BE RUNNING. Just hook up to the battery and you’re fine. I have not done this on my 2018 so I am inclined to be safe and follow your procedure until further information from Honda. I suspect maybe somebody hooked up to a running car and fried the electronics? That will happen with any motorcycle regardless of electronic stuff. Wing owners are prone to think that since, at least the last generation, had an Honda Accord alternator that they could jump start off a running car - Don’t! Not worth it - just jump off the car battery with the car not running.
@raulcanahui8411
@raulcanahui8411 6 месяцев назад
Hello, thanks always for the good info you share. I have a question, is not related to the battery. I live in Iowa, cold weather here but yesterday we had a good day and I rode my 2018 Goldwing but I stopped at the gas station after 80 miles and then didn't start, the starter was working but not strong as usual, after many times trying, decided to wait around 20 minutes and then everything was normal. Any idea about what happened? Starter issue? Thank you for any info. Merry Christmas!!
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
It could be a variety of things. Maybe the battery is just ready to be replaced. Hopefully, not an alternator issue, which is much less likely. These batteries can fail without warning.
@raulcanahui8411
@raulcanahui8411 6 месяцев назад
Thanks. The battery is new , got it 2 months ago. I tried to start the motorcycle and it's working fine now, but not trust it, do you think I have to take it to the Honda dealer?
@jean-claudejacquet7824
@jean-claudejacquet7824 6 месяцев назад
Hello from France, unfortunatly a friend of me meet this problem on 2018 Goldwing and in my country this module cost 7300 € and off course Honda do nothing. We open this box and we discovered that this module come from china and we haven't a schema with the reference of the componants of this board. If someone find it please share it. Happy Chrismass
@CG-jr1ym
@CG-jr1ym 8 дней назад
Cruiseman, If my bike is dead and I need to jump start it. You say after the bike is started and running ok, Shut the bike off and reintstall the fuse and then restart the bike. So what do you do when the bike won't start again by itself. It needs to be jumped to get it going, each time you try to start it. So if you shut off the bike to reinstall the fuse, you are in a never ending circle. I have had many time the only way to get the bike started is to jump it. (each time you try to start it.) Should I go home without fuse 25 reinstalled? Thanks for your answer. CG
@deangentry701
@deangentry701 6 месяцев назад
Your maintenance video with what if I do not have been mow? How else can I purchase so I can get you a receipt?
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Sorry, I am not sure I understand your question? Perhaps you should email me at info@cruisemansgarage.com.
@deangentry701
@deangentry701 6 месяцев назад
What is supposed to say is I do not have Venmo or PayPal or any of the other kind of thing. How can I get your videos for the 20 18 through 2024 if I do not have them to get the receipt for the discount?
@javierespinosa1587
@javierespinosa1587 6 месяцев назад
Out of curiosity, if the dealers aren't aware, what if they jump the battery and fry the radio, who is responsible then?? Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!🎉
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Good question
@Wdbjr12345
@Wdbjr12345 6 месяцев назад
Jumping isn’t going to hurt it. Unless you’re dumb and jump it backwards you have nothing to worry about. The lithium jumps some of them jump at 15v which usually isn’t an issue but a dead battery will pull that down.
@andrewshumicky3966
@andrewshumicky3966 3 месяца назад
Can you comment in an issue. 2021 Honda Goldwing. DCT. Non Tour. Asterisk errors on display and black Navigation screen. Please help. I’ve heard it’s a cable issue from main fuses. Ughhhh
@user-ol9lg1ft2y
@user-ol9lg1ft2y Месяц назад
Is there an update to this?
@340Captain
@340Captain 6 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas to you all !! I had a catastrophic failure of the Audio Unit in autumn last year. The fuse (No.25) was blown and the screen was completely dark. Also I couldn't select any gear and driving mode. So the bike was completely INOP. We discovered, that the audio unit had a severe internal failure. Luckily we found a specialist, who could locate the faulty part on the board of the audio unit (High Tech with Infrared Thermal Scanner). After replacing the faulty part and reinstalling the audio unit, we still had a failure message in the Rear Can Bus Control Unit. So we replaced also the Rear and the Forward Can Bus Control Unit (you can't repair them, they are kind of shrink-wrapped in a plastic housing). Before the mess, I did some Jump Starts a couple of weeks before because of an empty battery. Maybe that was the reason why the fuse was blown. After all, it remains a mystery. I think that's a very good hint !!!!!
@benjaminbailey7429
@benjaminbailey7429 6 месяцев назад
What year is your Goldwing??
@340Captain
@340Captain 6 месяцев назад
2018 @@benjaminbailey7429
@deangentry701
@deangentry701 6 месяцев назад
I guess I was really not clear or if I got an answer. How can I purchase the maintenance video if I do not have Venmo? PayPal? Anything other than a debit or credit card? The teacher would be great but I would much rather have videos
@cruisemansgarage
@cruisemansgarage 6 месяцев назад
Dean, when you purchase the videos on Vimeo (NOT Venmo), you can use your credit or debit card to complete the purchase. Vimeo is the company that processes the sales and hosts the videos.
@bobmerrison9178
@bobmerrison9178 6 месяцев назад
Why is jump starting a GW such a frequent thing.
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