Warp 1260 Review - EXTREME Amiga 1200 Upgrades 

There's a little hope in the back of my head that thinks that if Commodore UK had actually managed to buy Commodore that David Pleasance might have had his eyes on buting up Acorn too (especially if ARM came with the Acorn company) and that maybe just for little longer, we'd have had ARM-powered A5000s and A1800s.

@@GeoNeilUK Raspberry pi is fine. Really, they do 4K video at 30 fps and 1080p at 60 at less than 10 watts. Do you REALLY want to go back to using workbench? I'll help you setup Raspberry PI OS on a raspberry pi, or in a Virtual Box PC. The virtual box PC will be faster of course, but it will give you a good idea of what the OS is like and you don't have to buy any hardware or software. Amiga was an amazing computer back in the day, it was well ahead of its time, but I wouldn't want to go back to it. Still remember Fred Phish? Was it Fred Fish? Been 30 years.

@@richardwicks4190 Achh.. just use an emulator....

​@@jasonking1284 Saying "just use an emulator...." is like telling someone who wants to ride a motorcycle "just drive a car...." lol Truth is while I do own a fully kitted A1200 I don't have the space to leave it out, so I do use an emulator more often than not. But it's not the same, just like riding a motorcycle and driving a car. For me personally I find I'm more focused when using my actual Amiga, I spend longer getting a lot more done (I do some gaming, graphics, music and after an almost 30 year hiatus I'm starting to program again). I don't know if you ever owned or used an actual Amiga back in the day, and I know this is subjective but it doesn't feel the same as a Mac or PC, if your emulating you are still having to deal with the underlying OS at some level. Emulation is that thing that lulls you into the experience, then every so often yanks you out of it.

@@richardwicks4190 you dont really think people are using AmigaOS because they have no other options do you? Suggestions like "just use linux based OS no.34567645864" are redundant. Also, exactly how familiar are you with AmigaOS (for starters its called AmigaOS, Workbench is a desktop, so Im guessing not much)? Its way more capable that you seem to think. Very little it cant do, raw grunt permitting.

Ben Baron Yes, the WiFi chip is an ESP32 which runs at 240MHz on two cores simulteanously :-)

@Poff Nada I do know, but the main processor is a 68k which has a super old instruction set while also having a much slower frequency, so the performance difference is probably even larger due to the instruction sets not smaller so the point still stands.

​@Poff Nada Yeah...you're completely missing the point of my original comment lol 🤦

I wonder though if the ARM's IPC is any higher than the 060. It would still outrun the 060 even if its IPC was somewhat lower, but it would still be interesting. Its real power will come from a newer instruction set. The ESP 240 is certainly lower IPC so its doubtful one core on it would out perform the 060 at 105mhz. In fact i bet it would take both cores to do it. They are not very high ipc at all, but are very specialized in their application.

In the previous comment thread, one commenter compares Mhz of Intel for five years in the 90s to the 68k's in Amiga.🙄 No two chips can be compared like that. Media and ads in the 90s hyped up clock rates, to encourage sales, to make some like RNL commenter upgrade and/or buy more expensive PCs. It worked so well, it gave Apple a reason to switch from PowerPC to Intel. The comparison by clock speed doesn't mean much in real world performance. People fell for it though.🙄🤷

I guess Im asking the wrong place but does anyone know of a trick to get back into an instagram account..? I was stupid forgot my password. I love any assistance you can offer me

@Ronin Alden Instablaster :)

@Arlo Ayaan thanks so much for your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process now. Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.

@Arlo Ayaan It did the trick and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy:D Thank you so much, you saved my account!

@Ronin Alden You are welcome =)

Yep... in 1994 I opted for a 33 MHz FPU with 4MB fast ram and clock rather than a low-end '030 for my A1200. That was a much better buy, IMO. I still use it today.

Thanks dude. Keep an eye on MVG’s channel, he has one 😎

Our family PC from like 1992-1999 was a ZX Spectrum 128K lmao.

Same for me, i had a Phase 5 Blizzard PPC 603e Plus with a 68040 CPU and a PPC 240MHz CPU, and a Elbox Mediator PCI 1200 with a Voodoo5, but i was stupid enough to sell my Phase 5 Blizzard PPC 603e Plus, really wish i had never done that :-(

My trusty A1200 was my only pc till the end of 2003 also. It isn't very well just now. Can't get it to boot at all😟

Amiga Wolf A heavily accelerated Amiga 1200 was perfectly decent for the late 90s/early 2000s.

The same! 1992-2003

I like to think of the Warp boards (similar to most new Amiga hardware) as offering the best of both worlds; the '060 for the OS, and the new hardware augmenting the custom chips, rather than completely removing them. They're always still available if needed.

Yeah I owned A500 while at school, finally got A1200 in 1995, upgraded it a load. Enjoyed it. Fidonet! Switched to PC 1998, GTA1! Quake2! There isn't the love for Windows vs the likes of Amiga or Linux. I get tingles when I hear Amiga game soundtracks like Pinball Fantasies haha.

Sadly I agree. This so call internal damage to a company similarly, Sega US and Sega Japan lack of working together resulted in bringing down that platform as well.

I agree. The biggest flaw in Amiga evolution was the absence of Jay Miner and his team. The AAA chipset had to be an evolutionary leap and affordable to ensure success. Similarly, Atari came out with the Falcon that had potential, but the relatively high price hampered sales among fans.

Motorola didn't help Amiga's cause i.e. 50 Mhz 68060 in 1994 while Pentium reached 100 Mhz in 1994. Intel's Pentium was important for the gaming PC platform to compete against mid-90s RISC based game consoles. 1993 = Pentium at 66 Mhz 1994 = Pentium at 100 Mhz 1995 = Pentium at 133 Mhz and Pentium Pro at 200Mhz 1996 = Pentium at 200 Mhz 1997 = Pentium II at 300 Mhz 1998 = Pentium II at 450 Mhz. The infamous Celeron 300A which overclocked to 450 Mhz also appeared. I jumped ship to PC in 1996 for Pentium 150Mhz (overclocked to166 Mhz) and S3 Trio 64 PCI when the Amiga has an expensive 68060 at 50Mhz and expensive Cybergraphics 64 (S3 Trio 64). I traded my Amiga 3000 (030/882 at 25Mhz) for the Pentium based PC. I recently won A1200 (labeled as broken for parts when it's actually working) eBay bid..

@BigLBA1 According to Dave Haynie, AGA chipset was ready in Feb 1991. Commodore management has yet another delay.

The whole thing is on RU-vid. Link in description

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JXmcMHiavQY.html

It already runs great on a 030@50mhz

It’s for running software applications it doesn’t have to be pretty!

You got that right! Don't get me started on what I think of Windows 10--it ain't pretty; have to use it every day at work. Enough to gag a maggot. Serious privacy issues, a bleached Fisher-Price toy GUI, zero user control over M$ updates that breaks other code and content rammed down your throat to name a few...

That's the big question. It's a bit of a silent treatment atm. 'Handing' out these cards to Amiga influencers (so you might be lucky if you mail them).

Heisener still has a large stock of NOS Freescale 68060s...as of may 2022 min order is 5 units at 750 a piece😳 so 3500 minimum

@@Bulletstop75 oh wow 😯. That’s outrageous money for that. Sadly won’t be happening for me anytime soon. Thanks for the info though!

Thanks John, glad you’re enjoying the vids and thanks for the support. I owe you a beer when we can get to events again.

Yeah... I kind hope they might make a 040 or 030 version of this. They cannot even find CPUs themselves and consider it too high a risk for them to try to get more, and they know about how to get them. The problem seems to be that a lot of the ones you can find online are fake. So it seems great, but the fact that it requires an 060 CPU seems to make it pretty much useless for most Amiga users.

I wrote them over their form , directly email for order but no respond. This makes it a little sad...

Thanks dude. Great videos from you too!

Dan Wood Thanks Dan, you actually was an inspiration back in 2018, made me wanna make youtube videoes, im not sure, but people says you were the first/pioneer of youtube Amiga videoes😅😀👍🏻 love your Amiga passion in all of your videoes, keep it up buddy

On the Warp’s onboard they are.

@@danwood_uk thanks, thats a vital information i needed :)

It's an Amazon Echo Spot.

While you wait for the scandoubler, you can at least use NewMode for older Workbench-launchable apps that lacked RTG screenmode capability.