Warren Mundine says there is “not enough information” about the Voice referendum | 7.30 

Not a very unbiased interview. She did not want to accept what he said, she only wanted to get her point across. Typical ABC interview.

Ms Sarah Ferguson constantly interrupted and didn’t let Warren Mundine finish what he was saying. He was very polite and gracious and she was very rude and disrespectful. He knows much more about what will help the aboriginal communities than she will ever know.

The question that Sarah Ferguson asks at 3:35 would seem to indicate that she didn't listen to Warren Mundine's answer to her previous question. The layer of bureaucracy that the Voice would create could effectively stymie the creation of any project - including not only a new energy metal mine but also a wind farm or solar farm - and is the creation of a self-destruct mechanism in the proposal of any project. It's pretty basic why this is a very bad idea and doesn't even achieve the outcome it purportedly sets out to achieve.

As a white Australian I'm trying to listen to many voices and views of indigenous Australians but cutting off those putting their side makes it difficult.

Thank you Warren. How you kept your cool and argued so rationally and clearly is a credit to you - and hope for the rest of us.

8:48 Warren Mundine starts to make a very powerful point so, true to form, Ferguson cuts him off. That some think the ABC is not biased is incredible.

I will give the ABC points for having the comments open. It is unusual for the ABC to risk being fact checked or to subject itself to any scrutiny by the general public.

First person Ive heard on ABC that makes sense on the voice. Just say NO.

She keeps cutting him off and talking over him.

Good on you Warren.

Pity Mr Mundine wasn't allowed to answer the questions in the way say Pearson, Langton, bowen or albanese would have been, but it is the abc

It doesn't matter about what the information says, it is racist simple. They have the same rights as ALL AUSTRALIANS. Working for a living is a great way to earn money. Thank you Warren Mundine.

The Voice is a threat to 97% of the Australian population and to how Government in this country works. We will effectively have three pillars, which will slow down the business of Government, including legislative changes, to a snail's pace because the Voice will insist on having a say and an input into ALL government business. The Voice representatives will be backed up by administrative support staff and advisors that will blow out to huge proportions over time because they need to be across on ALL legislation. The Voice bureaucracy will become huge and very costly. They will start to horse trade to allow some legislation through without interference and cries of discrimination in exchange for huge concessions that will greatly advantage people who claim to be Indigenous, including those that haven't experienced a day of disadvantage in their entire life. If the 11 point plan of action by the NIAA that was allegedly left behind in a Woden restaurant and then passed on to Pauline Hanson is to be believed as genuine, that will give an insight into what Australia has in store if the Voice is voted in as it is expected to be. There needs to be vigorous debate in the lead up to the referendum to expose all the possible pitfalls for people to take into consideration before voting. So far we've practically only seen and heard people urging people to vote "YES". Albo effectively telling people to trust him that everything will be fine is quite simply not good enough. This goes way beyond recognition of our First Nation people in the Constitution. I'm not inclined to sign a blank cheque, so why would I do the equivalent on something as important as Constitutional change that will be with us forever? All Australians are equal, but the Voice will ensure that won't be the case and I have no doubt it will divide the country.

Ferguson is white, wealthy and an elitist. She has no right to question and dispute anything an Indigenous man has to say about Indigenous matters. All respect to Warren Mundine and his fight against Albanese's Voice.

It would have been nice for the host to allow Mundine to answer the questions he was asked, instead of being interrupted!

This woman seems more interested in pushing her opinion rather than letting her interviewee give his insights.

WOW, an ABC video with comments.....

Sarah Ferguson struggles here and the ABC's bias is clear when she interrupts the strong points from Mundine.

Well done warren

I applaud Mundine for appearing on this show he knew that he wouldn't get a fair hearing and he didn't, she interrupted his replies at every opportunity

The state and territory governments aren't failing to get these kids to school, thier parents are. Until we are willing to face the true causes of disadvantage, we won't be able to rectify them. Individual choices, Individual responsibility.

Thanks Warren.👍 Any unbiased Australian looking at the: The Voice will see that it’s obviously rushing towards extreme overreach. And that’s before you begin to look at its undermining of Australian democracy. The country doesn't need ‘The Voice’, and about the only ‘achievement’ ‘The Voice’ will without question bring about is further division. The voice doesn't exist to do anything but stroke the egos of a select few at the expense of everyone else. On 27 May 1967, Australians voted to change the Constitution for a positive, and meaningful change. The 2023 proposed change to the Australian Constitution. The Voice. Is an intolerant, narrow-minded power grab. The Voice fails to represent all Australians. The Voice will embody structural racism. The Voice will serve as structural racism. The Voice will in conjunction with these clear liabilities fail to represent the many different and distinct Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander groups, each with their own culture, language, beliefs and practices. Genuine accurate facts are not dishonest scaremongering. Disagreement with any change that is not democratic, and is not representative, and will be discriminatory. This is now deemed racist?🤔 Why yes let us as a proud multi-ethnic nation Australia, undermine our modern representative democracy in favour of divisive, popular, crowd-pleasing, and overt virtue signalling? Why would we allow this? How afraid and intimidated have we become in Australia?

What an articulate man.

10 minutes was just not long enough for Mr Mundine to get his points across. Ms Ferguson wanted quick answers to questions that are actually more complex than just yes-no answers.

Thank you Warren!

The man who stood next to the PM when he announced the referendum wording - his name is Thomas Mayo - has been busy filling in the blanks. Mayo is a union official and self-described “militant”. He wrote the book on the proposed constitutional change. He sits on Albo’s Referendum Working Group, which drafted the referendum question, his signature was on the Uluru Statement and he has spent a year and a half travelling the country trying to talk Australians into changing their Constitution to include the divisive Voice. What does he say about the Voice? Thomas Mayo says the Voice is a campaign tool to “punish politicians”, “abolish colonialist institutions” and “pay the rent, pay reparations and compensation”. Rather than what the PM described as an “inspiring and unifying Australian moment”, Mayo told a conference of communists that “there is nothing that we can do that is more powerful than building a first nations’ Voice, a black institution, a black political force to be reckoned with”. At a 2021 Invasion Day protest where he described “the powers that be” as “murderers”, he said he was “sick of governments not listening to our voice” so planned “to use the rulebook of the nation to force them”. Mayo revealed the divisive aims behind the Voice at Invasion Day and Black Lives Matter protests as well as in numerous addresses revealing the Voice’s radical origins to the Search Foundation, which describes itself as the “successor organisation of the Communist Party of Australia”. Remember when Albo said the Voice was “a modest request”? Remember when he said that what “shines so brightly at the very core of its gracious request is the desire to bring us all closer together as a people reconciled”? Empty words. Now you know the truth. You’ve heard it from the mouth of the man who wrote the book on the Voice to Parliament. It is not a “modest request”. It is not “gracious”. It’s about power and money and influence. It's about dividing Australians. Thomas Mayo, the Yes campaign’s most prominent advocate, said as much himself.

"Can't build a toilet on a mining site without negotiating with traditional owners... then off to the Minister to have it ratified". Already a god-awful mess. Let's make it ten times worse with the Voice bureaucracy! What a shemozzle.

Typical ABC/Ferguson treatment. Here we have a successful respected aboriginal leaders who 'knows' intimately the grass roots, to the tree tops of aboriginal affairs currently. He runs circles round the ABC / presenter and the Voice showing it for what it actually is i.e. unknown unknown rubbish. Love your work Warren!

Well spoken Warren Mundine. You’re representing the “No” case eloquently and accurately. There’s two sides to this debate and multifaceted arguments on both sides. While I will vote no, I recognise that the “Yes” case are trying to help Indigenous Australians, the issue is that changing the status quo through a Constitutional is not the way. Legislate it 100%, but don’t enshrine it seeing as we don’t even know if it will work.

Mundine is spot on

He is spot on! In real life this will be a dogs breakfast

Zulu's were a nation. Aborigine's were not a nation.

All those gaps and issues are not solely our fault. I’m not guilty of my fathers sins. When will this culture face up to the facts and accept responsibility? How much do we keep giving? Thanks Warren. I admire your temperance and wisdom. A big ‘No’ from me.

Finally a real aboriginal allowed some screen time , not those whose great great great great step grandfather was one.

Good on ya Warren... We need more like him in leadership... A logical and wise man.

Is Sarah stupid? No. Is she listening? Yes. So why does she not accept Warren's answers to her repeated questioning? Because she doesn't like what he is saying. Sadly that amounts to the expression of her own prejudices. Very disappointing.

The last thing we need is more government beurocrats, as he said before being interrupted by a government beurocrat, we need people in the community's representing the people and not more people in Canberra, vote NO for the voice,

I will give the ABC points for at least having a guest on the program from the "No" side as opposed to their usual air time being filled with "Yes" feel good platitudes and propaganda; however Sarah Furgerson conducts the interview in attack mode - hostile and inquisitorial. ABC - "fair and balanced"? Ha! Ha! Ha!

Very well said Warren. The point with regards to the bureaucracy that will be brought by the voice is a really excellent point. No longer will the actual group from that area be consulted it will go off to a body, therefore it’s a threat to that group of indigenous landowners that their voice won’t be heard or making the decisions. Then he highlights an example where legislation of programs have been greatly successful. Yet she pushes all of that aside… awesome stuff Warren.

The amount of cost and money waste that the voice will create and if it succeeds the delay on decisions making will cost Australia too much. Bridging the wealth ,health and education gaps has to be done by people them selves because there are non indigenous disadvantaged people as well and most people that create wealth for themselves have done it themselves and not had it given to them by government

Warren is right only someone from a tribe can onky speak for their tribe they can't advise any other tribes

Well explained... Mundine raises a very valid point. And possible issues, with the Voice ... Sarah interrupts a bit to cut off his common sense responses... more information pros and cons required.

I don't think Lydia Thorpe would get a grilling on the ABC. Well done Waren Mundine you make a lot of sense.

I am stunned the abc actually had a debate with someone against the voice…the audacity to ask for a life long contract…how about some audits so we can learn where the tax payers money is being well spent (and celebrated) and not so well spent …

So even First Nations people are not in agreement on it so what should it be forced on them and everyone else?

Mr. Mundine voiced so clearly my misgivings about this pet Voice project of Albanese's. "That dog don't hunt" as the Americans say.

Even if there was I would still vote NO!! Because we are all Aussies!!

I continue to be very,very annoyed by the Australian media( and polies) constantly referring to our indigneous aborigines as "FIRST NATION'people. WHY? Because the use of the word "Nation" infers "the state or fact of being united or combined into one, as of the parts of a whole; unification. absence of diversity; unvaried or uniform character. oneness of mind, feeling, etc., as among a number of persons; concord, harmony, or agreement." Our aborigines,during their 40,000 years in this continent were comprised of something like 900+ tribes....and the tribes were mostly in conflict over territorial disputes/claims. ( Not much has changed, huh?) How in bloody hell does anyone call that NATION peoples??? I have no problem whatsoever with referring to our blackfellas ( NOT racist before you start...they call us "whitefellas) as indigenous population ( which is only 3.8% of our current population) or as orginal inhabitants of New Holland/Australis...but no bloody way as First Nation's people. ....that is just a political term for ulterior reasons. We still have freedom of speech....so I have just put in my 2 bob's worth.....but Labor Party will soon curtail that even more....mark my words. I have been an Aussie for 75+ years now, and I certainly don't like the way Australia is heading. Very sad for Australia..

I am more convinced to vote “No” after watching this interview.

Has he got Google? All The Voice will do is organise the mess that exists now.

The gap we are trying to close is the gap between the Stoneage and the Electronic Age. Nobody is capable of closing that gap.

Sarah Ferguson, I’m wasting my time listening to what Warren Mundine has to say because you’re not interested in letting him finish a thought.

Well done Warren and ABC, I learnt a lot from that.

Why does he not do a survey and put his result for all to see.

Are you going to let him finish a sentence, Ms Ferguson? It's not racist to ask what the Voice will be able to achieve..... and exactly how it will achieve it.....if, as we are told, its role is merely advisory, with no power of veto. It doesn't add up.

Why doesn’t Ferguson let him answer her questions☹️

Well said Mr Mundine. The Voice would turn into a den of cronyism in Canberra that would benefit a few and further disadvantage many in rural areas. And correctly highlighted the failings of State and Territory governments.

Sarah how do you sleep at night? The interview wasn’t going well for you so you would just cut Warren off constantly,gutter journalism at it finest

All living Aboriginal Australians descend from a single founding population that arrived here about 50,000 years ago, the study shows. They swept around the continent, along the coasts, in a matter of centuries. And yet, for tens of thousands of years after, those populations remained isolated, rarely mixing. So that makes me indigenous to this land, no vote from me. NO

Barely use the ABC now other for evening news/weather. Sadly it's lost its way & now no more than a fringe activist mouthpiece for the left running on the taxpayers dollar. Trioli, Karvelas, Tingle, Kelly, Probin & even poor old Heather Ewart are clearly are part of mission lefty. No balance anywhere there. Well past time that the ABC was cut loose to the market.

Warren Mundines facta on created employment numbers are not given the light of day. I have pointed out that you can't mandate that people must comply when you say you cant guarantee water to remote communities and they should move closer to towns. Aboriginals thatr choose to live on country following traditional ways cannot be used to exemplify program failure. This whole subject is beaten up ideologically and the ABC is a classic example. They refuse to promote knowledge of the successes despite the fact that this would promote the successful solutions.

We should be worried that this change would give Aboriginals power that could easily be misused. Mundine mentioned “mining companies” and this is where the real danger is , multinational mining companies will be working closely with Aboriginal “ corporations “ and the rest of us AUSTRALIANS will be left out .

Why doesn't the goverment hold a semi referendum only for indeginous Australians to see what they think before asking the whole Australia to make a decision for them?

Warren seems to be a boots on the ground type of guy.

The voice is so racist and divides our country by race and colour of your skin, we must unite as one all equal inclusive of everyone, we are a multicultural land and we must accept everyone for who they are, not who they were born too

Conflation, rhetoric and absolute rubbish of untruths.

No body can take this man Seriously, he has run for the LIbs and ALP

Warren was answering all questions honestly and succinctly, but Sarah had her own agenda, clearly pro Voice, and kept asking Warren for clarification when his responses were honest, logical and clear. Very sad journalism and shows how pro Voice the ABC appear to be. I really don't understand why they refuse to look at the big picture and simply work in a closeted environment. Very strange and worrying.

The great thing about Warren's IPA so-called Better Alternative is the fact that he has never had to spell it out in any real detail. We all know what he's against but what he supports is still quite murky. It's all too typical of the "NO" Campaign overall. Sow doubt, spin lies and leave the "YES" case to prove it's worth.

The constitution doesent need to be tampered with, to better the lives of those indigenous that want to better themselves.

It would've been better if the rude interviewer actually let Warren speak.

Thank you for your information!

Well done Warren

Such a gentleman

Of course someone who runs a mining company doesn't like the idea of people being properly organized. They are much easier to push around when they are not.

What I take from Warren's comments is that the individual communities already have a "voice". What this proposal does is "centralise" their voice into a political body that actually removes the individual communities voices. It politicises the individual opinion into a centralised political view which purports to represent all but will ignor the individual. The possibility for corrupt influence is astounding! This needs a re-think. There is not enough information for anyone to make a rational descision on this question. Emotional responses are not the way to alter the Australian Constitution! BY the way, how will the "voice" be selected, who exactly will they represent, and exactly WHO is defined Aboriginalin the first place? I want to vote on the EXACT wording that will be inserted into OUR Constitution!

Firty fousand hey Wazza?

Why keep cutting him off, have some respect. You are plainly putting your view on here ABC so let him.

It’s struggling as proponents respond to requests for definition with (a) their personal heritage, (b) history, (c) voice is “a voice” 🙄

Warren Mundine 1, ABC & Ferguson 0

How bout a Bill Of Rights for ALL Australians!

NO!

Mundine didn’t make a coherent argument at all.

I reckon he knows what he is talking about!.

If you don’t have any reliable healthcare (remote communities) your health outcomes will be worse, it doesn’t take a genius to work that one out, similar with education and schooling

80% of Australians or 80% of aboriginals? Surely if this is what aboriginals want they have all spoken saying they want it.

Mundine may be a well known first nation advocate, but he cannot be seen as the leader of all Aboriginal Australians. The "Voice" is now a kicking ball for everyone.

It's a threat to ALL of us ...non indigenous as well as indigenous and indigenous communities

Its funny how anyone can argue for government to have more control over a situation that theyve been actively failing at for decades.

400 million dollars would have went a long way to the poorer communities in this country

Honestly, will she let him speak and make his point without hitting him with another question. I found her quite rude and disrespectful.

Mundine word salad. This man's personal grievances have overtaken him.

Fantastic job Warren

The money spent on this referendum could have been spent on building schools and hospitals for aboriginal people and apprentrships for young people

some of these interviewers are just plain rude

This gentlemen was on point, for what was obviously a blatant attack on him, which could not be substantiated by the interviewer.

Automaticly he states the voice will interfere? Is that an unbiased viewpoint? I am not a lawyer but the word may, does not mean they wont? Huh warren is complaining the voice has the ability to have a voice .... FFS is anyone actually listening to this guy.... Hes just an Aboriginal right winger rich dude, in my opinion.

Well done warren for keeping your cool.she certainly didn’t like you facts and figures and when she didn’t like it she certainly shut you done! Keep up the good work mate !!

She's got a voice it likes asking questions,but her ears don't have the time or curtisy, to listen to the answers,

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