Warren Smith vs. CONTRAPOINTS... a critical thinking DEMONSTRATION 

I subscribed had to come back here to see if you posted anything new.

I just posted a major update@@jessica.thunder

Oh yes, anyone I don't like is a bot, very "critical thinking" 🙄🥱

​@@lareina9919 😂😂😂 I love that that is your interpretation of his statement. It's like you read the words but didn't actually listen. 🤟 😅

@@midgetmachete1889 or think.

It’s a man. 🇬🇧

I think the emotional argument that the RU-vidr Contrapoints bases these critiques of JK Rowling on is accurately picked up on by Warren here. Maaaaaybe Warren doesn’t know that ContraPoints is a male who identifies as a female, and wishes to be seen as a female. This is why someone like JK must be silenced, and why CP makes irrational arguments to combat the objective truth. We don’t tell women men are not a threat to them and expect women to believe that is reasonable and rational. However, when the man grows out his hair, calls himself Natalie, gets highlights, and performs femininity on camera in a controlled environment, we are suddenly expected to pretend this individual has transcended reality. As a cubicle mate at work, it’s not a problem. In the toilets at work, it can be violating, and this is what Rowling was 100% reacting to: The Shark that was jumped.

Got the same impression, who the hell watches this person say absolutely nothing for 15 minutes? You can tell the professor is thinking the same, there’s literally zero meaningful info in that video regarding the actual topic that should be the center of discussion (whether JKR is transphobic or not).

That's a brilliant summation of the current education system, a veritable army of smart-sounding people with nothing to say: albeit with a terrifying power to destroy lives, institutions, indeed society, should anyone question the agenda which created their programming.

He is a he.

She also said something like “if you ask them to give you an an example, and they do, they’re just messing with you”

exactly, and on top of all that she has the hutzbah to accuse those that disagree with her ideology of employing the 'mott and bailey'. most of their argumentative tactics really on the bloody thing !

@@haydenwalton2766 The left's Bailey: "Trans women are women. Trans women are murdered and battered for being trans women. Trans women struggle to integrate into society because of transphobia. Therefore, Trans women, without question, have to be allowed into women's spaces." The argument: Trans women and biological women are inherently different. We have to recognize those differences to respect biological women's comforts. Let's have a discussion on how to accommodate Trans women into society without disrupting the rights of biological women and their spaces that society has spent years trying to ground against predators. The left's Motte: "TRANSPHOBIC" I find that the far left like to use what they learned in psychology class to try to dismantle arguments with debate fallacies. Essentially more god damn buzzwords LOL

I do understand that this isn't really logical argument especially if you put things on YT. However I also experienced : “This is so obvious, that I cannot even articulate why it is true” - moment. It sometimes occurs paradoxically when people try to argue things like : "Why do we need to be faithful in marriage ?" or other thing like that. You become so baffled by the sheer audacity of the question that you loose track of thought.

She literally made a whole video to explain it and pointed you to it. If you are interested in her reasoning you can watch this and find the proof you are asking for.

EXACTLY!!! And so obvious..Wouldn’t you think…

To be fair this entire drama was being escalated from both sides - the more she was called a "transphobe" the cruder JKR's response was. Hard to blame her, but it's a shame noone had the dignity to stop this madness.

@@Qq-xs1fz I don't think it would have made a difference. Look at Jesse Singal, the moment he offered even milquetoast criticism on this subject he started getting added to hatelists, there is no in-between for these activists.

@@Qq-xs1fz She was classy the entire way. Having fun here and there doesn't change that ^^

@@Qq-xs1fzmobs dont have the mental capacity to stop unless their object of offense is annihilated. The problem with mobs is they tend to be a majority, and in social media, majority rules by number of views and likes etc. and online, where things can be viewed again and commented on again, i feel, it can escalate more because of it’s permanence

I mean from her perspective it is a trap. She knows none of the legitimate evidence backs up her positions. That's why she argues from emotions. "You're a meany who hurt my feelings, therefore your evidence is illegitimate and your arguments are not worth rebutting. I win."

She is assuming everyone she argues against is an online troll trying to bait her. It's stupid but if you see things through that lens it starts making more sense. Then again, these people tend to generalize anyone who disagrees with them by putting them all in the same category. I'd arguing they are more bigoted than the alleged bigots they talk about.

@@nothanks3236 Or "Well every 'good' person knows it's true so evidence isn't needed and asking for evidence means you are a 'bad' person trying to confuse and mislead people".

@@damgfulthey assume everyone else is doing the thing they’re doing, being intellectually dishonest/ lazy / disingenuous

This is actually quite a harmful retoric contrapoints is arguing. To stop asking for evidence and just condemn is a really bad thing to do. He knows this.

Yes that's a huge problem that people aren't giving enough attention to. A large number of people are operating on a "that's exactly what a witch would say!" level of reasoning, coupled with the conviction that they can usher in utopia through punishing transgressions for which they need no proof but intuition. What would happen in Salem if they social media, electronic banking, and dragnet surveillance? We're gonna find out. Yay!

You should remind your friend who instantly knew what the true meaning of those tweets was that only a dog can hear a dog whistle...

"In essence, he was saying that she didn't say anything problematic on the surface, but that she meant something completely different to what she wrote. And although there is no proof for that, he "just knows" that to be true and "obvious"." In other words, don't believe what you see, don't believe what you hear, believe what we tell you.

This is very much bordering on “thought police”

She made a valid point. In many cases even in law, intention is important.

Check out King Critical, he has done deconstructions of these amateur dramatists.

Definitely not the first. MANY women have been doing this for years but no one seems to have noticed 😅

​@@megankwisdom true but I do think his methodology is unique and is obviously hitting well with people! Who are your favorite as I'm always down for more argument deconstruction videos!

Good point. Are all trans narcissists? I think they are.

There are few studies that shows that majority of males with a trans identity have co-morbid personality disorders - largest % is narcissism. @@windygirl2342

You must have realised by now that this is a character in a short film the guy is making?

@@windygirl2342 I think it's dangerous to use "all" in a statement regarding groups. But I don't doubt that the internet has helped narcissists rise to the top of social media, as pointed out by Haidt and Peterson.

No, not all trans are Narcissists, some actually have body dysmorphic disorder. The other "Trans" are most likely vying for attention by pretending to be another gender to garner sympathy and will spit hate at anyone who calls them out for their woke ideology. Yes, most trans people are Narcissists, but not all. @@windygirl2342

Well - if there is a word for it: someone has to be convinced that this "concept" needs to be expressed by some way of being able to talk about it. There are a lot of words for things we can neighter see nor touch directly: time, love, fairness, God, invisible pink fluffy unicorns, winter, luck... and other concepts that are totally bogus, but wildly accepted by "the public" like Father Christmas, the Tooth Fairy or racism... All these things EXIST (naming them is proof enough), but we need to talk about the impact, those concepts have on our lifes. In the Corona Crisis the speaker in the British Parliament spent 20 minutes to clarify the words he was going to use in his following speech - just to make sure being understood correctly. Everyone wisking such definitions away by stating "we don't really have to talk about this / it is quite obvious that / as every well-meaning person knows" is a lazy demagoge, who tries to force every other person onto the "baddy list" (and any form of inclusivity EXCLUDES bad people) - Everyone is afraid to be called a racist, a bigot or anything "-phobic", because it is associated with being BAD, narrowminded and destined to hell. How narrowminded is it, only to enter a conversation with the intention to CHANGE the other person's mind ? - this person was wrong in the beginning and if she shows no intention to change, I will not even attempt to speak to her. Nice: DO as you are told & shut up otherwise [that is NOT the definition of a conversation]. How can you reach any understanding of different viewpoints, if you stick fingers in your own ears and yell at all the other people (toddler's tantrum, I guess)? If you call out all the moderate people by excluding them from discourse, only the dangerously radical elemants prevail and THEY will pounce on you, while the indifferent majority will let it happen, because you yourselves had told them to "shut off"

Well what does ‘sex it’s real’ mean to you? Does it mean the ACT of sex is real? Or that difference in sexual characteristics and attributes are real…? Or that the statement ‘there are only two sexes’ is real?

​@@LexxysLifeDownUnder-kr8sbGamete production. Every other definition of sex stems from that.

That last sentence "If you call out all the moderate people...." is a great insight, thank you. @@LisaBeta-42

you sound like Gandalf when Bilbo says "good day".@@LexxysLifeDownUnder-kr8sb

So basically he's taking notes from literal Nazism. I mean, when you think about it... There is a pattern and also a reason why certain buzzwords are overused. Because that would mean being likely to be called out. Edit: had to correct myself a bit

It wasn't the witches in witch hunts that have power.

@@chrisbfreelanceThere’s a few things I wanted to immediately respond with, suffice it to say the witches who were never on trial were likely the most powerful. Probably still are. Best to make sure if you’re accusing anyone of anything, there’s some form of proof, otherwise we haven’t left Salem at all.

He. He. He. He can put womanface on all day long, but his core is XY.

Dog whistlers. Remember when they called a ton of stuff "dog whistles" for white supremacists? Pervert a term that is universally deemed as bad and call someone that term in order to signal to their cult followers to attack. They're also usin the very tactics the groups they claim to be against used - anti-racists are racist, antifa are fascists, per their own definition; the entire woke hivemind is authoritarian in its very nature.

I never considered the word "obvious" to be a word of gaslighting, but it makes sense now that you pointed it out. It unconsciously seems to eliminate giving it any thought in the first place.

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Natalie is NOT debating. Natalie is lecturing.

@@VesnaVK Yeah, you’re right, but lecturing is a technique in debating.

@@penneyburgess5431 She was not debating. You said this is exactly what she was doing. It is exactly what she was not doing. She was speaking authoritatively and instructively, while dismissing consideration of opposing viewpoints. (Except for a few points that she would admit discussion of, with proper inspection and approval.) You might think that's debate, but it's not. It's lecture. You might well have witnessed this sort of thing being done in a debate setting (I certainly have) -- but the person doing this is not debating.

Well, not *that* many people think that Contra's a bigot, or at least not for that for that reason, anyway. Normal people don't support men in women's sports at all, so Contra is off the hook for that *particular* charge of bigotry.

I still think it's crazy they found a woman who survived domestic abuse who selfadmitedly is focused on women's issues relating to safety, claimed her as the devil and then sent violent threats to her. If she did hate trans people (which I don't think she does, as she's said she doesn't) the crazy activists would be proving her right. I'm pretty neutral to her, (I like Harry Potter, but it didn't change my life, and I thought her "these characters are actually gay/jewish/black and I just never mentioned it" was a little silly), but I have always found her gumption to make it as a creative and commitment to charity admirable.

Her position isn’t really nuanced at all 😅 are you sure you know what that word means?

@@WiggyWamWam Tactivist i guess?? Do you even know how dumb you claim is.

@@stingingcake853 I don't think she hates people for being trans, but she does fear monger about things that are ridiculous and promotes people who openly call trans people pedos.

@@WiggyWamWam Prove that JK Rowling is objectively “transphobic.” Cite actions and direct quotes that support your claim. You won’t, because you cannot. Such evidence does not exist. Your subjective perception of transphobia is not a valid argument. You have to prove OBJECTIVELY that JK Rowling has a phobia of people who believe they are the opposite sex. You, as a left-authoritarian SJW, wouldn’t know what nuance is if it smacked you in the fucking face. Your entire ideology is grounded in your woeful unwillingness to acknowledge nuance.

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Nothing open minded about him at all.

Yes, but also he gave into his fetishism of women, definition of AGP.

LOL Perfect.

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Several? How many exactly? Is there statistics?

@@amandavieira2543why does it matter how many? I think one person exploiting the system just to endanger others is enough. Thankfully, Marxist subversion is going to lose this battle. Civilians don’t really care about convicts.

@@amandavieira2543even if it’s just one mamas. The issue is using criminal men using gender identity to get into the cells with women, who will be vulnerable to their attacks.

⁠@@amandavieira2543idk about rаріst mаles who petitioned to be placed in women’s prisons with the backing of “LGB”T activist groups, I just know of some cаses of rаріst males who were immediately placed in women’s prisons, without any discussion or debate, upon “self-idеntifуіng” as women (like Isla Bryson and Karen White eg). Which is even more extreme?

then why does noone expect anyone to constantly speak out against ALL rapes that happen in prison? (not only in male-only but also in female-only prisons)

No

Also, throwing a tantrum and trash talk is all that’s left when you find that you cannot win using facts, logic and reason, but you still think your opinion still has merit and is the correct and good one. But name calling and trash talk basically means, when I point the finger at someone, the thumb points up and three point back at me. “As i heard someone say it means Heaven is witness, i am thrice that, of what i accuse you of.”

By her own logic, her stance on trans people in sports being open for debate would justify trans activists labeling her a bigot and transphobe. She essentially said "the issues **I** think are debatable are ok and do not make me a bigot, but issues **other people** think are open to debate are, in fact, not, and them thinking so makes them bigots."

By essentially labeling those who disagree with her as bigots, and saying she will debate with anyone who's not a bigot, she's saying "I'm willing to debate anyone that agrees with me." That's a powerful debater.

@@this_epic_name cant believe you took the time to listen to her spiel that far… to much dramatizations and distractions and clips tossed in. I was like get to the point already. But true, even the the beginning she said there is no use debating unless you know you can win by a landslide. And i will add that reason, logic and common sense or not on their side, so they must resort to name calling, gas lighting, redefining words and any other sort of lie or manipulation they think they can get away with

Contrapoints has a certain flair for presentation (and an ability to use their voice to sound reasonable in tone at least) that wins a lot of favours. However the dramatic flair completely overshadows any actual meaty content. I cannot recall any single particularly powerful argument made, just many assertions without any foundations beneath them.

​@@neodigremo Not to mention that she very, VERY easily comes across as very pretentious and very self-obsessed. Sure, they use fancy words a lot, but little else. If you can cut through the silk costumes, the theatre kid aesthetics, and new-age quirky humor, you'll find it to be a very hollow, maybe even irritating, experience.

You described the logic of a terrorist.

@dr.rationalist9669 Interesting. What you describe aligns perfectly with the mechanisms of a cult. As it happens, JK Rowling's latest book The Running Grave deals with a cult and now I am asking myself how much being vilified and maligned by some trans activists has played into writing that book. Might be only coincidence, mind you. This is coming from a mom of a trans kid for whose trans rights I would fight until the end of time.

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it's a cult

Got to keep her followers/audience loyal… it’s all about the money now.

"Trans people can't even agree among ourselves what gender is, in fact if you even try to answer the question you end up enraging some part of the community who feels excluded." --Natalie Wyn, "J.K. Rowling" It's funny, because the most literal definition of "transphobia" is "irrational fear of transgender people." Yet Wyn doesn't even want a rational understanding of what "gender" or "trans" even mean.

@@keelhld94 This is deliberate. One of the core ideas within the radical progressive movement is the manipulation of language to create a situation where it's almost impossible to 'ground' a conversation.

@@ninjaoflight908 Alright then lets awnser it then, its a made up term to describe an element of personality relevant to steriotypical roles between the sex's. I am sure someone would take offense to this . Why because then the proper term for those who are trans would be transsexual's Gender has a softness to its word and transsexual sounds clinical so these activists wont like that. Bottom line is this is basically Gnostic duelism and has no grounding in the physical world . Spirit and body are bound together, or scientifically you are your body... Your not trapped in a body that is you.

Exactly its like "Supressive person" Used by Scientology. They have the same tactics. If your against the church they will assume its because your evil or something got a lot of dirt and make baseless accusations ... Sound familiar?

It's a dog whistle.

Exactly!

I mean, that's pretty much the archetypical example of projection.

God, shaming someone for their opinion is not the same as shaming someone for who they are. Or are civil right protestors just as much racists as the white people their protesting against? God, I bloody swear, the critically thinking on this channel is completely gone. Critical thinking here really just means "boiling everyone who disagrees with me down to a gotcha". I feel like I'm talking to christians in this comment section! "shaming a "bigot" because they disagree with you, automatically makes you a bigot" Yeah, just like forcing christians to accept mixed race schools is "anti-religion".........

This is why I've begun to tire of people who use the term "common sense", because I've seen people abuse it in a way to ignore evidence the opponent is providing and basically negate the burden of proof on their part i.e. "It's common sense, thus I don't have to support it beyond saying that, and if you argue against it, then you look like an idiot for arguing against "common sense", thus I win".

its a literal cult tactic "oh you dont think blue men will come out of the sky to save us... if you still dont believe that by now then maybe we should just excommunicate you from the cult as it means your heart just isnt in the right place and youre not paying attention during lectures."

@@EuroMIX2 i mean yes but there are times when it really is common sense or SHOULD be common sense based on the widely available evidence. The real problem is every since post modernism people have simultaneously said that nothing is really common sense because there is no truth....but then also everything they themselves happen to believe is true....and that is an unassailable cognitive dissonance. If you encounter a person like that there is just nothing you can do to reason with them. And the number of people I encounter like this just keeps growing.

Most 'gender critical' people deliberately misgender trans people and frame transsexualism as something inherently offensive. If they're against the whole concept of being trans, then what's your beef with them being called anti trans?

Exactly. It's all "but I know she is transphobic because she *clearly* means whatever I interpret her words to mean, other than their actual objective meaning, you just gotta trust me you guys... if you don't, you're clearly transphobic yourselves"

@@bluenorth3965 Is so circular that we could actually make it run for free electricity generation

JK *is* transphobic. There is no definition of transphobic that she does not fit. Lmao, you guys have no critical thinking skills, or at least you sure don’t point them inward.

She only says that because she had already put out a 90 minute video about it. So she already had argued that point, which i's why she said she wasn't going to go over it again. The fact that this channel then clipped that and responded to it disingenuously with a nit-pick about the naming of a section of the video, without recognising that that section name was warranted by what came afterwards (a bit they didn't acknowledge) suggests to me that Warren is either being deliberately misleading with editing/ paraphrasing and straw-manning, or he hasn't done enough background research - he didn't watch the original 90 min video, seemingly only this follow up, and probably didn't look at the arguments and evidence put forth by other critics such as Shaun in his video about JK's online and offline political actions. (Check out his video on "JK Rowling's new friends" i.e. her political associations and those she's seeking to boost)

Warren takes things for what they are from an objective standpoint. If ContraPoints was too verbose and conniving to present their arguments in 2h, well, he knows better than to waste 3.5h of his life. ContraPoint's argument could have fit into a paragraph.@@andyjmorley

Good point. Maybe that’s the crux of it.

I see what you did there.

Going straight for the slurs huh?

What slur was in this response?@@heythere9371

​@@heythere9371 What in your opinion is a slur in the OP?

Look, the anti-Enlightenment crowd is nothing if not ignorant of the immense irony of their positions.

Selling contradictions is fundamental to their claims. They cannot defend facts so this is all they have. With global Government backing their agenda is powerful. That said because "time is short" their giant leap approach is waking folks up which is a good thing 💜

Social engineering got us to where we are, none of this is the organic progression of societal norms. Thats the part I see in everything happening right now and ppl like her are the residue of about 70 years of slow boiling frogs

Contrapoints dogma is the one True Belief and questioning it is dangerous and wrong, don't you know?

It's like when occupiers suddenly want "peace" because of course now that they're the occupiers, that's what serves their particular interests.

that’s one way to describe it 😢

we should start saying "dimorphism is real" instead lol

You sat through the entire video. I skimmed through, felt like the whole thing could have been cut down to ten minutes.

altogether both videos were something like three and a half hours of my life. i don't think anyone can say i didn't give her diatribes a fair chance to convince me. they didn't, but natalie is an eloquent speaker with slick production and great sets/costumes, so it's no surprise that the rest of her audience doesn't question her arguments at all - they come in very pretty packaging and apparently that's enough. @@uncoiledfish2561

It's called stochastic terrorism. Demonising someone publically to the point that people attack them

He. Contrapoints is a man. Hold the line.

He's a he

From anyone else I'd call this a made up story, but wow it really is you. Repsect.

That is why there is no point. You can't negotiate or debate. They are brainwashed drones. They don't think, they feel.

Who can blame them? If you apply logic to their arguments they fall apart!

Anything worthwhile doing in life is not easy. The idea that it is impossible lacks the depth of understanding that these people are not complete robot clones of each other. Vast majority of the human race can be reasoned with or, at the very least, bargained with. Relax. The conversations that are happening now will result in a better world when ideas are faced with a cool and calm demeanour.

They use logic. Circular logic, but they do use it...

and this will be their downfall, they thought for a moment that they would succeed in silencing people through fear and threat. But people did'nt shut up, first the bravest , P.parkier/ JKR/ Forstater/ Murphy, who went through all that vitriol, then less brave people Matt Walsh who shut u for a long time and have had enough, now it's more and more random people, when that happens if you still refuse to debate and still rely on fear (which is what contrapoint relies on with the shaming and name calling and not arguing), you lost.

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@@Azmodon Yeah I figured but I was concerned the RU-vid censorbots would hit me for that.

#justsayman *he. Let’s stop continuing the delusion.

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Yep I know exactly what you mean

Not a fan but I dont see it. I only see pretentious self righteous male (we are talking about '' contrepoints '')

Thank you for using the accurate pronouns for the creepy man cosplaying as a creepy woman. Too many people in this comment section are calling him a she. And that quote is fantastic.

The only disturbing thing is the utter lack of logic by the person's argument he's challenging

That means more than I can say. Thank you.

Totally agree with the above comment. I have only recently become acquainted with Mr. Smith and his platform. Very impressive. A voice for reason. So refreshing and rare these days. Jordan Peterson comes to mind.

THANK. YOU.

YES! For quite a while now I've thought that I'm loosing my mind. Few years ago I've asked a question somewhere on facebook (which I no longer have, so I can't quote myself), about queer people in general. I argued that I'm not sure I follow the rethoric of demand in many areas of life and can't grasp why sexuality needs to be an identity in modern society. Needless to say, I got attacked by one gay guy - he called me a biggot, told me to stfu and when I asked why he has this strong reaction to my question he said "I won't discuss with anyone whether I diserve human rights, because of my most important, sublime lifelong desires, that you expect me to hide from the world". I was young and naive and this left me questioning myself for months. I got scared that I'm just a bad person for not understanding and I've basically gaslit myself for years to come that it is my absolute obligation and duty to empathize with every member of any minority in existance, because otherwise I'll be hated on. It all got back to me when I was watching Contra's essay. I felt this weird irrational fear, like "something is wrong here", and I started to reflect and examine my flashbacks. I started to dig into the internet in order to actually find answers to my old questions and understand better why I feel this way. And in boiled down to a question: what exactly are human rights and which of them queer people lack? And that was it... nobody gave the clear, precise answer to this anywhere I looked. Some were doing random "lists" with no substance and the only thing I could actually kinda sorta get is when they were talking about "not being murdered", because of the statistics of assult on trans people. Well, valid. What do we do with that, how to prevent this - that should be deeply and widely debated, that is a good question to ask. However, the 'human rights card' is being played CONSTANTLY, in soooo many different situations. This is nothing but a gaslighting technique, which in my case, unfortunately, worked very well. I'm glad I get now what happened.

I mean I’m totally in support of these people being shipped off to an isolated island in shark-infested waters.

And it's even to the point where even having a conversation about a middle ground is bigotry. As if saying women also have human rights is invalid.

@@Smoczur777Is it possible to go back and find that guy online and say these things to him?

imagine a society with this Correct Think that Contrapoints is teaching. I think we have a couple of examples from history to draw from?

Which class? Where does he teach?

@@mgntstr salem witch trials. "We have no proof that they're a witch, but it's obviously true to any good christian. They said they were not a witch, and we as good people know that's exactly what a witch would say."

@@simex909 Libya. 2010-Ongoing "You there fine looking woman, I am a good muslim and I claim you for my sex-slave harem." And the good people stood by agreeing yes he is a good muslim man and deserves to take any unbeliever he wants for a slave.

@@melvind8381He teaches high schoolers.

As a Dutch-German I would LOVE to have a talk with leftists like Contrapoints and explain to them that they are copying a lot of N*zi tactics. Unfortunately she most likely lives in an echo chamber and will never reach the truth.

When you think about it... There's a reason why the word "Nazi" is overused. Because the potential Nazis themselves don't want to get called out.

it's totalitarian mindset , exactly what JKR described in Harry Potter. It does'nt matter the ideology, right , left, religious , secular , western , eastern ... it's a universal human scheme and relies on the same human heuristics like magical thinking.

​@@LalaDepala_00You see, there are no good/bad actions, only good/bad people. Very likely, the response you'd get...

@@FireGlitch Fascism, despite everything you are taught, is actually a form of left-wing authoritarianism. And if you’re only two choices were fascism or communism, anyone even remotely, rational would choose fascism. Because fascism has nothing to do with white supremacy and genocide. There was none of that in the Spanish Civil War, which was fascism versus socialism. And fascism grew out of socialism by Benito Mussolini. But that combination in German of fascism and white supremacy wad the perfect boogey man for the communists and left-wing extremists in academia to use as a distraction of the absolute failures and atrocities of communism. And these people are left-wing extremists. These people are communists. So how do you distract from that? By making fascism a form of right wing extremism that is also homophobic and racist. You created distraction like a magician. Don’t look in my hand look over there. So you get people looking to the right with fascism so they don’t see how truly crazy and extreme communism is. but in fascism, you can own a business. You can own a house. There are different classes in fascism. Or as none of that exists in communism. Fascism allows for individualism. Communism does not. They are both terrible. They are both authoritarian. They are both repressive. but fascism is clearly preferable to communism. Actual fascism, not the fascism mixed with other things practiced by the Germans. But it was the perfect boogey man for the left-wing extremists and per usual since they control the culture and the narrative they have done an excellent job, selling that nonsense and convincing people it’s true. Therefore, everyone agrees fascism is bad while people pretend communism and socialism. Are these wonderful things. The same way they try and say Che Guevara was a freedom fighter when he was in fact an evil mass murderer.

That's the point, though. For a trans person to be able to have these open thoughts, we'd have no trans people. They need their own echochamber of hating each other's biological bodies and ego stroking anything that's against that. If you teach a trans person that sex is real, the damage is real, and that they should love their natural body, people go one of two ways: 1. detransition/feel comfortable in their original body, or 2. narcisstically scream and harass and demonise you in a constant attempt to stop showing people the truth. They're so far in the cult that they're cult organisers, people whose sole purpose is to promote people into the cult and make sure they don't leave. It's no wonder they hate detransitioners and villify them so much, or go on to gaslight them and move the focus back towards themselves with their lies, deception, and warped stats to push their agenda (which if you looked into any, you'd either realise they're lies, not actually stats by the scientific term/short-term and feeling-based, or actually prove against transgenderism such as the 40% being similarly consistent in every stage of hating your natural body... colour me surprised). These people don't care about them, they only care about how many people they can make hate themselves. *That's, quite literally, a humongous early stage of cultist tactics: make the person so self-defeating that they're vulnerable to exploitation. They're the people who literally make you hate your body, then give you this "miracle" which will make you love the costume they want you to have... the people to stab you in the foot and then amputate your foot to stop the pain... that kind of stupid nonsense Stockholm Syndrome*, but that glorious delusion wears off very early down the line and the only thing they have left is a toxic coping mechanism of continuously having to hate your original body and constantly justify the surgeries and hormones you did, over and over again to yourself to fix your constant low self-esteem. Their self-esteem, if you know what it actually is (a grandiose narcissist also has it low, for example), never once goes up. Nevermind the early access to porn majority of these people have which desensitises them to how precious our unique bodies really are.

Let’s not diagnose people over the internet, dear

@@WiggyWamWam you must have spent considerable hours in the company of JK to arrive at your diagnosis of transphobic, I think you said "there is no definition of transphobic that she does not fit"

@@jellybean6582 Refusing their existence or legitimacy is the base of transphobia, if you're triggered by the fact that they need some special accomodations so that they can live as comfortably as any other person, then yes you obviously have a problem with this group of people and just like racist people have issues with different races, you're having issues with people who have gender dysphoria because you don't understand their struggles. Many people had the same concerns about the handicapped needing special accomodations for a long time, but I'm pretty sure anyone would understand now how it's hateful, dumb and insensitive to think like that, well it's the same for the trans community. They deserve the same rights as anyone else, they also deserve to be protected against the discrimination they're facing (mostly because of personalities like JK who dismisses them publically and thus result in their fans following their mindset). Also this idea that helping trans women will somehow endangered women is quite false... It's quite easy to paint a certain portrait when you're using one extreme case out of thousands happily transitionned people who never hurt anyone in their life and are living their life without bothering anyone. If there's one rapist who happens to be trans (doesn't even mean the person really has gender dysphoria so for all we know they are just straight people using the system for their evil deeds) and that people suddenly make a generality over it it's forcefully bad. Just look at the data, there's crazy people in every communities even this one, doesn't mean it's representative, same for the crazy activists of twitter, they're not representative of what trans people are like, they're just the loud minority that exists in every group. If you make a generality over those then you're bigoted, it's pretty simple... Also most feminist groups do include trans women in their fight without issues, only Terfs are actively fighting against trans people using feminism as an excuse... Rowling is surrounded by anti trans activists on her pictures and the way she talks about it shows that she's misguided, like most people who don't understand the subject. If you're curious on the subject I strongly recommend you watch this : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ou_xvXJJk7k.html&t=

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You don't know what the word narcissist means. At this point, it just means "this person I don't like is bad."

Except... They DO think they have the literal right. That's the problem. They're displaying that more & more. Therein lies the danger.

yep, religious zealotry same game

Not just their finances, but their entire mental framework for which the exist is backed into the corner of believing that their emotions and feelings on the topic are valid and true In order to do that, they have to change the definition of what is true and objective, and if that even matters

Exactly. When she said “well what do you mean sex is real.” I’m like… everyone knows what sex is. In fact, TRAs and YOU know what it is, otherwise you wouldn’t have an issue what she said. Contra knows what JK is saying and is arguing in bad faith and being dishonest.

@@titanblade3706 When he said*.

Victimhood mentality is a legitimate clinical form of narcissism. They create a false identity/ego that they demand everyone participate in. And react aggressively or even violently when you don't because it threatens to reveal the real identity, or lack of identity, underneath.

"... to change the definition of what is true and objective.... " That there is no objective reality or truth is what is at the heart of the Post Modernist ideology that is so prevalent today. It forms the basis of the D. iversity I. inclusion E. quity madness that's being forced into our culture and education system. @@gianni_schicchi

Yes, the lady thought she was making a point by saying that there are sports where gender didn't matter, such as figure skating, while the sport was never competed in a mixed gender environment for the fact that certain techniques simply aren't available to woman. She actually could had picked sports such as shooting sports and motor sports, but then we never had anyone complaining in those sports for obvious reasons.

The first quad ratified in competition was Kurt Browning in 1988.

@@lanzer22 She thinks things like mixed high school sports would be ok. Recent volleyball injuries on women’s high school volleyball say otherwise. Teams even refused to play with trans women teams.

@@RobertPenner Forgot the date but watched the event. Pretty spectacular.

Ironically in shooting they went away from mixed events in shotgun classes because it was male dominated and suppressing female engagement. They created a women only class to raise numbers. Allowing men in dresses into women's activities is likely to have the same suppressive effect

I think the point is not what she is or is not, I think what matters are the points she makes, this is what should be debated. The all "transphobic" debate is a form of derailing.

She uses the slipper slope argument a lot: while its not this specific thing, it leads to this specific thing, so its as bad as this specific thing

@@ThisIsY0SESometimes, although it’s more that she uses the argument that if you allow certain privileges to trans women cis men will take advantage of them to get into women’s spaces, because there’s no meaningful difference between a trans woman and a cis man.

@@cathygrandstaff1957 "cis" men = "trans women". A rock is still a rock even if you paint it to look like wood.

@@cathygrandstaff1957 And she's right, by the way. TIMs will pretend to "really feel like women" to access their spaces and prey on them. Like... have we forgotten that bad people exist and don't care about ethics? Also, there are men who genuinely think they're tns who are pred tors. It's a reality.

You nailed it! Yes!

He is exactly that.

Warren comes across a cult leader who will "show you the truth" "make you think critically" and "stop you from being brainwashed" without ever assuming he could be wrong himself. "Thinking critically" means realizing you're wrong and he's right. And luckily, Warren can never be wrong. This man is just replacing one ideology for another and calling it "a demonstration of critical thinking" even though it looks more like one of those christian "atheist conversions". And the comments look like the comments under those christians videos lol.

Boom

@@vln987HER

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XY, ffs 😂

Yeah I had to listen again because his argument is based on something she didn't say. Never heard of this guy before the algorithm, but that mistake seems sloppy.

he is either very dumb and bad at "critical thinking and logical analysis" or very hypocritical and dishonest. I go for both because that was a very stupid and too obvious mistake, but also him not responding to the actual points and especially to the original first video is very dishonest.

The distinction itself is irrelevant. The vast majority of trans people will identify themselves as defendants of trans rights (activists). His idea isnt to misrepresent "her" point. It is to point out an inadeuqate generalization and honestly, borderline misrepresentation, of JKR's point. She refers to a small subset of trans people/activists. The use of "people" instead of "activists" doesnt change it. @@modo1896

I think him emphasizing "activists" was valid. Trans activists are a radicalized sub set, so insulting them has nothing to do with transphobia. Contra shouldn't have even tried to make that point using only activists because it didn't mean anything. It was a good call on his point to draw attention to that.

​@@williamjenkins4913 Insulting trans activists could have something to do with transphobia depending on the reasons for the insult and on how we're defining transphobia. The "trans activists death eater" quote in that section of Contra's video about Rowling's transphobia wasn't meant to prove Rowling's bigotry on its own. It was one example among many that demonstrated how motte and bailey transphobic arguments work. She was also showing how the absence of explicitly bigoted statements isn't a sufficient criterion by itself for deciding who is a bigot. Rather, Rowling's transphobia is inferred from the overall pattern of her tweets, retweets, writing and political activism about trans people over the years, which mostly fixates on them as a threat and something to be opposed, promoting fear about trans people.

so, do you like still get pantsed every single day or something? this is incredibly weird

Honestly, same. If caring for women's rights is trnsphobic, then I'm a raging trnsphobe. :D

@@bluenorth3965they wrote a long ass comment about being a dumb 12 year old can't we all just make fun of the guy together?❤️

@@lennartmathiassen I'm sorry, I don't know what you're talking about.

@@bluenorth3965 tbh me neither I just got a notif about your comment so I guess mine got deleted or smth but at least we can all agree that the video "teacher" guy is a 12yo loser stuck in the body of a 40yo

That last line hits hard damn

no one in the trans community is saying that sex isn't real :p Any trans people knows how biology works... pretty sure any trans woman born male are very aware that they have a male body with XY chromosomes... so yes, "sex is real", no one in the trans community is saying that biological sex isn't real, so her saying that, phrasing it like that, is kinda off topic since we're not talking about sex but GENDER, which is a social construct from the brain. It is scientifically proven that gender issues, and gender dysphoria in the case of trans people, are a thing and very much not a disorder, it's part of your identity just like your romantic/sexual orientation. I can only point you to that short extract from a Stanford neuro biology teacher, someone who's actually qualified in the field speak on this.: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8QScpDGqwsQ.html&t= Refusing their existence or legitimacy is the base of transphobia, if you're triggered by the fact that they need some special accomodations so that they can live as comfortably as any other person, then yes you obviously have a problem with this group of people and just like racist people have issues with different races, you're having issues with people who have gender dysphoria because you don't understand their struggles. Many people had the same concerns about the handicapped needing special accomodations for a long time, but I'm pretty sure anyone would understand now how it's hateful, dumb and insensitive to think like that, well it's the same for the trans community. They deserve the same rights as anyone else, they also deserve to be protected against the discrimination they're facing (mostly because of personalities like JK who dismisses them publically and thus result in their fans following their mindset). Also this idea that helping trans women will somehow endangered women is quite false... It's quite easy to paint a certain portrait when you're using one extreme case out of thousands happily transitionned people who never hurt anyone in their life and are living their life without bothering anyone. If there's one rapist who happens to be trans (doesn't even mean the person really has gender dysphoria so for all we know they are just straight people using the system for their evil deeds) and that people suddenly make a generality over it it's forcefully bad. Just look at the data, there's crazy people in every communities even this one, doesn't mean it's representative, same for the crazy activists of twitter, they're not representative of what trans people are like, they're just the loud minority that exists in every group. If you make a generality over those then you're bigoted, it's pretty simple... Also most feminist groups do include trans women in their fight without issues, only Terfs are actively fighting against trans people using feminism as an excuse... Rowling is surrounded by anti trans activists on her pictures and the way she talks about it shows that she's misguided, like most people who don't understand the subject. If you're curious on the subject I strongly recommend you watch this : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ou_xvXJJk7k.html&t=

​​@@JonathanJimbo This is kind of late, but I'd like to tell you something: Queer activists will never be your friends. They strive for the subversion of normality, they don't want gay or trans to become ordinary people. Differentiating activists that want to integrate society and those who want to subvert society isn't easy, but look for what are the consequences they're proud of.

You have watched "Canceling" right? People just look at on video of Contra and decide they full know the woman I guess. "The enemy of the enemy is my friend" and when people keep using "sex is real" as an ARGUMENT to BE TRANSPHOBIC. You out of all people should know that is bad. It's "love the sinner hate the sin" all over again. In ONE video Contra agrees with the violent Twitter mob, but in other videos, she has criticized the Twitter mob. Maybe don't base your view of someone on ONE video. Kinda feels..... idk..... like something the Twitter mob would do!

@@TikoVerhelst Short version : she doesn't actually understand what the spirit animating canceling culture is, so she's feeding it while decrying the fact it exists. We're talking about the same woman who said "I'm not a fascist is what a fascist would say". Intellectual consistency is superficial for her.

The ones disparaging her just want views on their crappy social media accounts and videos.

@@CharacterDev Or worse, they want to normalize prvy, kriippi men in places where women are vulnerable. Or just want to be able to access every privilege women have with none of the drawbacks of actually being a woman.

"That's my mother!" XD

Wow what a critical thinker you are and not just a crude bully

@@connor5669 :(

@@connor5669 Do you not understand humour when you read it?

@@bricktasticanimations4834 what's the joke? The problem with bigots is that they're caught up on the most fundamental aspect of trans existence. They can't make good jokes bc of that

it's impossible to know if you're making fun of the guy or not

@@lennartmathiassen not making fun of him at all. I love the way this man thinks, and with the dark path society is taking today, we need to show our youth especially, critical thinking skills. The powers that be are trying to brainwash us all, like the student Warren was questioning. We need more voices to shine light in the darkness, and the way Warren speaks, he guides people to critical thinking in a way that doesn’t shame them.

@@lennartmathiassen it’s just going to not be an easy path for him because those in charge don’t want us to think. He’s going to need to be brave and prepare himself to meet that opposition.

@@spatz82_the_fierzwolf sorry, I guess I didn't really read your original comment thoroughly: I *also* think this guy is "brave" and challenging "those in charge" and that he's not just some simple-minded loser 😉😉👌

@@lennartmathiassen Gotta love when the complex-minded winners come out of their holes to refute people's opinions and arguments with... insults. Genius move, I could definitely never aspire to such level of intellectual excellence. Superb.

I think he got another part chopped off too, he lost his balls once got called as bigot by other trans activists.

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she made a 90 minute video engaing with the debate but you are too fucking lazy to respond to that, or just too dishonest and cowardly like @SecretScholars, so she is perfectly in her right to say she does not see it useful to engage anymore, and all of those here in the comments saying transphobia is not real or a valid label are proving her exact point. Why try to prove in good faith that Rowling is transphobic (as she already did) when you people are BAD FAITH debaters that already a prior have decided she is not and there is actually nothing that could prove she is since you don't believe in that concept?

Bad example. A more accurate version of what you said is, “I don’t need to show you proof of Bigfoot because it just walked right in front of us and you saw it.” Pretty funny that you thought you had an objective point. Why are leftists so bad at arguing?

@@Cynical_Finch transphobia and sasquatch aren't really comparable. We can actually point to examples of people being transphobic while sasquatch is literally a mythical figure. I think this statement works fine for some topics and contexts. Like, if someone argued against the existence of even numbers, I'd feel no need to argue with them because it's obvious to anyone who knows basic facts about integers that even numbers exist.

Well, its simple, because most people never question on anything, and they dont even want to think how to answer a question. Thats why watch a good movie or read a good book is very important, it teaches you how to have more broader perspectives

It is frustrating because, especially on moral issues, interrogating the why is really useful. For instance "why is murder wrong" is a good way to try to outline your moral framework. But I agree that people making assumptions about my intentions, even when they are right, really is infuriating. It is part of why I will also try to let the other person in a discussion outline their motives and act as though I believe them.

no one in the trans community is saying that sex isn't real :p Any trans people knows how biology works... pretty sure any trans woman born male are very aware that they have a male body with XY chromosomes... so yes, "sex is real", no one in the trans community is saying that biological sex isn't real, so her saying that, phrasing it like that, is kinda off topic since we're not talking about sex but GENDER, which is a social construct from the brain. It is scientifically proven that gender issues, and gender dysphoria in the case of trans people, are a thing and very much not a disorder, it's part of your identity just like your romantic/sexual orientation. I can only point you to that short extract from a Stanford neuro biology teacher, someone who's actually qualified in the field speak on this.: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8QScpDGqwsQ.html&t= Refusing their existence or legitimacy is the base of transphobia, if you're triggered by the fact that they need some special accomodations so that they can live as comfortably as any other person, then yes you obviously have a problem with this group of people and just like racist people have issues with different races, you're having issues with people who have gender dysphoria because you don't understand their struggles. Many people had the same concerns about the handicapped needing special accomodations for a long time, but I'm pretty sure anyone would understand now how it's hateful, dumb and insensitive to think like that, well it's the same for the trans community. They deserve the same rights as anyone else, they also deserve to be protected against the discrimination they're facing (mostly because of personalities like JK who dismisses them publically and thus result in their fans following their mindset). Also this idea that helping trans women will somehow endangered women is quite false... It's quite easy to paint a certain portrait when you're using one extreme case out of thousands happily transitionned people who never hurt anyone in their life and are living their life without bothering anyone. If there's one rapist who happens to be trans (doesn't even mean the person really has gender dysphoria so for all we know they are just straight people using the system for their evil deeds) and that people suddenly make a generality over it it's forcefully bad. Just look at the data, there's crazy people in every communities even this one, doesn't mean it's representative, same for the crazy activists of twitter, they're not representative of what trans people are like, they're just the loud minority that exists in every group. If you make a generality over those then you're bigoted, it's pretty simple... Also most feminist groups do include trans women in their fight without issues, only Terfs are actively fighting against trans people using feminism as an excuse... Rowling is surrounded by anti trans activists on her pictures and the way she talks about it shows that she's misguided, like most people who don't understand the subject. If you're curious on the subject I strongly recommend you watch this : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ou_xvXJJk7k.html&t=

A lot of ‘old adults’ could also learn a lot from him.

I don't agree with your assumption that faith is, by nature, blind faith. That, for many Christians, is a straw man. But, that is not Christian faith at all. The word 'faith' has been so poisoned in the culture that many Christians have started to replace it with better nouns like 'conviction' or 'trust', as in trusting your wife because the evidence you have about her indicates that she will react and do in a given future situation what you expect her to do because you have confidence in her - or trust her implicitly - because of past performance. That is Christian faith. There is an unknown in the future but one has faith in what she will do in the future. Now, substitute 'she' with God, and you have the picture. (And yes, many professing Christians don't understand this because of bad training.)

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All to the rapturous cheers of their devoted flock.

no one in the trans community is saying that sex isn't real :p Any trans people knows how biology works... pretty sure any trans woman born male are very aware that they have a male body with XY chromosomes... so yes, "sex is real", no one in the trans community is saying that biological sex isn't real, so her saying that, phrasing it like that, is kinda off topic since we're not talking about sex but GENDER, which is a social construct from the brain. It is scientifically proven that gender issues, and gender dysphoria in the case of trans people, are a thing and very much not a disorder, it's part of your identity just like your romantic/sexual orientation. I can only point you to that short extract from a Stanford neuro biology teacher, someone who's actually qualified in the field speak on this.: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8QScpDGqwsQ.html&t= Refusing their existence or legitimacy is the base of transphobia, if you're triggered by the fact that they need some special accomodations so that they can live as comfortably as any other person, then yes you obviously have a problem with this group of people and just like racist people have issues with different races, you're having issues with people who have gender dysphoria because you don't understand their struggles. Many people had the same concerns about the handicapped needing special accomodations for a long time, but I'm pretty sure anyone would understand now how it's hateful, dumb and insensitive to think like that, well it's the same for the trans community. They deserve the same rights as anyone else, they also deserve to be protected against the discrimination they're facing (mostly because of personalities like JK who dismisses them publically and thus result in their fans following their mindset). Also this idea that helping trans women will somehow endangered women is quite false... It's quite easy to paint a certain portrait when you're using one extreme case out of thousands happily transitionned people who never hurt anyone in their life and are living their life without bothering anyone. If there's one rapist who happens to be trans (doesn't even mean the person really has gender dysphoria so for all we know they are just straight people using the system for their evil deeds) and that people suddenly make a generality over it it's forcefully bad. Just look at the data, there's crazy people in every communities even this one, doesn't mean it's representative, same for the crazy activists of twitter, they're not representative of what trans people are like, they're just the loud minority that exists in every group. If you make a generality over those then you're bigoted, it's pretty simple... Also most feminist groups do include trans women in their fight without issues, only Terfs are actively fighting against trans people using feminism as an excuse... Rowling is surrounded by anti trans activists on her pictures and the way she talks about it shows that she's misguided, like most people who don't understand the subject. If you're curious on the subject I strongly recommend you watch this : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ou_xvXJJk7k.html&t=

This book is now on my reading list! I recently read Love Your Enemies by Arthur C Brooks and it talks about similar ideas, diving more into the political area.

That's an interesting point.

Scary combo.

"the feminine tendency to argue the feelings, not the facts' That seems misogynistic. Source for this claim?

@@roaroa5291 Notice how your first statement, or "argument" was an emotional one: "That seems misogynistic." Your first argument was to press an emotional hot button. Misogyny is the pathological hatred of women. Can you provide sources that proves that me saying "feminine tendency to argue the feelings, not the facts" shows a pathological hatred of women?

​​@@ejtattersall156because facts are superior and what we should make decisions from. Then different people have different interests with those facts/ situations. I don't know how you can say that women argue feelings ? Facts and feelings are not antagonistic, you can have feelings about facts. What do you base that on? I think women do argue for their feelings and those are not the male feelings. And since male is seen as default you think thats arguing feelings. Also feelings are facts (they're part of reality) and should be taken in to account. But how? That political.

Agreed 100% also #justsayman.

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First off I haven’t met anyone who has extreme irrational fear of trans people, second, even if they did, how can anyone be guilty of something which isn’t crime?

@@dimitardonev4507 I agree on your first point, but not everything that's ethically wrong is illegal. Laws often allow very morally wrong stuff. You can still be guilty of that, even though you won't go to jail or receive punishment for it.

@@bluenorth3965 that’s one of the most absurd ways to navigate through life, do you realize that by your own logic you are always committing imaginary crimes with regard to someone’s subjective moral standard right? So what’s your response? Do nothing say nothing? But that way you will offend I.e. commit a “crime” against those who don’t like people who say and do nothing. So then by whose imaginary crime standard you’re going to live your life? The loudest? The most threatening ones? Well but in that case you aren’t moral or virtuous though, are you? You are just afraid. And that leads us to millennia old wisdom - most moral and virtue is cowardice pretending to be a moral and virtue, and just so you know people see right through that fake disguise.

@@dimitardonev4507 You just made a whole lot of assumptions about me. Let me respond with a question: do you believe that everything that's legal is morally right?

@@bluenorth3965 it is all relative - if an individual, or a fringe group can declare that their own subjective moral should be treated as a criminal code and everyone else should be a subject to, then a legal system which is shaped and refined throughout the course of millennia, generations upon generations is infinitely more moral than the former.

Her and the other activists see a fire that isn’t there. I attempted to show clear indisputable evidence JKR wasn’t a racist to someone who I was friends with on FB, and I was blocked immediately.

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She use a lot of weird outfit and background, and talk very specific, convincing tone, clear and scripted. First you have to know most people are... dumb, they watch video for entertaining, her video is looooong, without all those gimmicks no tiktoker or ADHD-ish people will able to watch, so he keep changing scenery, outfit, and some drama effect, and once people get through the whole video, they think themselves are smarter, and think all he said is smart, and thought it is true, and then become a follower. There are a lot of cult leader use all kind of tricks and gimmick to attract cult members at start, the first thing is - exceptional charisma and long speech.

It’s a man. 🇬🇧

What does it mean in the context of the discussion though? In the tweet Rowling states that women are being fired for saying “sex is real.” The implication is that the statement “sex is real” is so disturbing that it causes people to be expelled from their jobs for saying it. But is that true? If I were to say “sex is real” in a workplace, would I be fired? Not from any job I ever had. The statement is ambiguous because it is standing in for something else that does get people fired. Something like “I won’t work with a transgender person,” or “they shouldn’t get to use the same bathroom as us.” “Sex is real” is being used as a mask that is easier to trigger outrage in Rowling’s followers than the more understandable offenses that she refuses to say herself

That's why proper debates have moderators. Plus, it's the responsibility of the viewer to critically question what is being said and not let themselves be manipulated by misinformation and misdirection. I'm tired of this narrative that human beings are all sheep incapable of independent thought. Don't think I'm attacking you. I'm only adding to your comment

Oh yes we are capable of independant thought. I think that a lot of times we are chooding not to do that because it's an effort.@@damgful

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@@bluenorth3965 Oh, I didn´t know...

@@noahwail2444 It's fine. But yeah, Contrapoints is male.

This is great analysis and good description. I used to like her, but since this ideology has taken root, I notice it has made many seemingly “reasonable” people rather unreasonable. This description can be used to describe many of these activists, in fact. I had a similar thought, but going even deeper, where if they were to disagree with more than even a tiny part of the ideology, then they would have nothing left. Thus this is why they’ve devolved into such a state of irrationality and extreme polarization. Thank you for sharing

There was that time Contrapoints got a lot of activists angry on Twitter. Since that time, her work got darker, more nihilistic, and far less willing to give others the benefit of the doubt. I agree that it is likely she is somewhat stuck with whatever the current orthodox version of progressivism is - better to hunt witches than be put on trial as one again.

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@@briankelley987 Guess he lost his balls

I'm sure he'll apologize for his sandwich breath...

I hope I did ok. There as definitely more I could address but it was getting long.

@@SecretScholars you did a stellar job mate. A proper debate between you 2 would be a fantastic watch

HE.

@@hlangafulContrapoints should debate Helen Joyce.

Not a ‘woman’. It’s a man. 🇬🇧

@@janebennetto5655 honestly I wasn’t watching the video and only going on the voice - was cooking dinner 😎☀️

his

It's a HE.