Was Brian JONES So IMPORTANT To The Rolling STONES? | Full Documentary 

BRIAN JONES was the most important Rolling Stone 🎸👏👏.. A Genius ⭐💫..

@@elenikorkodelaki2695 Well said Eleni !!!! :):)

It is all lies. Bill was not in the band when he claims all these things happened with Brian. Bill Wyman is a liar. Brian joined Keith's band in April or May and Bill did not join the band until mid December 1962, almost 1963. Bill was not there when Mick Keith and Dick Taylor founded the Blue Boys in 1961 ... the same band who changed their name to the Rollin Stones. Bill was not there to hear the repertoire of the Blue Boys before Brian joined Keith's band when most of what they played was Blues songs. Bill was not there when Brian asked if he could join Keith's blues band the Blue Boys. Bill was not there when they changed their name to the Rolling Stones from the Blue Boys and Bill was not there when they played their debut performance at the Marquee Club in July of 1962. Dick Taylor was Mick and Keith's bass player when all that happened. Bill was at the other end of London playing bass for a band called the Cliftons and he did not know Keith, Mick or Brian at that time. Everything Bill says about the early Rolling Stones are lies. BILL WAS NOT THERE.

The only group that Brian Jones created, was the 27 Club.

You see, Brian was a malignant narcissist and a braggadocious serial compulsive liar. Bill was his best friend in the band, maybe in the world and they roomed together when they were on tour. Bill was not in the band for the first eight months after Brian joined, so he knew nothing about how the band formed or who made the decisions or who was in charge... Brian filled his head with lies about how he auditioned and hired the band members, named the band, booked the gigs and was the musical leader deciding what they played and how they played it. None of it, of course, was true but Bill believed him , or at least he seemed to believe him. After Brian tragically died the only one willing to do interviews about Brian was Bill and he would go on and on retelling the lies that brian had told him over the course of six years . The writers and journalists would then quote Bill as though everything he said was the gospel truth because after all...He was a member of the band wasn't he?...they would never check their source to see if Bill was even in the band at the time he supposedly remembered all the things that he says Brian did... Poor journalism. Then all the writers and journalists started quoting and embellishing on each other's gossipy stories as well as quoting Wyman and all his nonsense. Thus the legend was born. Complete with made up stories and extended myths about Brian writing many songs without getting credit for his "musical genius" and tales of having his band "stolen" from him.. One writer ( Paul Trynka) wrote such gushing lies about Brian that some pages in his books contained the words "musical genius" more than the words "the" and "and". They always portrayed Mick and Keith as the evil plotters who stole poor Brian's songs and his girl friend and his band and Brian as the angelic victim who fell under their oppression and bullying. Nothing could be further from the truth, but It sold books.. There never was a shortage of musical geniuses in The Rolling Stones but Brian Jones was certainly NOT one of them. Jones was a poser, a psychopath and a phoney.

The Some girls album is the exception. That was the only top tier Ronnie Wood era record.

So they are sustainable but you as a fan are not? Oh that makes perfect sense.

I dig it !!! Gotcha . :)

Brian's reported drug habit left him without the will to play it seems. And if the manager was pushing Mick Jagger to the front and only allowing Jagger to be interviewed ( a situation alleged in a different RU-vid video) Brian had too many not for him.

@@johncook30284 Brian's alcoholism was worse than his drug habits and did a lot more damage to his body. The drugs damaged more his brain. We can't ignore that when Brian broke his wrist attempting to punch Anita Pallenberg in the face in a Morocco hotel room, that the bones in his wrist reportedly didn't heal properly and it made playing guitar painful and difficult for him. It was around that time when Brian announced to the band that he was bored with guitar and he quit playing it altogether. When Brian tried to do interviews with the press he would often be so drunk or stoned that he would get profane and nasty with everyone in the room and the band. That had to stop and Andy made sure it did, as any good manager should do. Even if he was a bit high Mick could comport himself with dignity and control. Brian was his own worst enemy.

Wow, thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! 🙌😉✨🎶❤️

Their best albums were from 1967 to 1974 period... that is a fact. Now there is also nostalgia😅

Right on, Theater Pup. :)

You missed their best work.

​@@williardbillmore5713NOPE.

You mean ,keeping the Brian Jones lies alive.

@@williardbillmore5713 Love that Doobie Brothers song , What a fool believes .

@@ClassicRockFilms stones musically became less entertaining after Brian

Tremendous Rolling Stones Thanks for posting ❤

Psssh. He was a drug-adled no load.

​@@TheBatugan77Psssssss.. Who are you to judge???? Are you the perfect person???? So much ironic 😏 hate... Relax!

@@TheBatugan77Psst you’re a pathetic excuse for a troll.

@@elenikorkodelaki2695 You tell it, Eleni !!!! Well said !!!!!!! :):):)

@@TheBatugan77 that’s pretty rich … source’s say The Rolling Stones had a bit of a reputation for “drug-aduled”

Jones did NOT "found"the Rolling Stones. He joined Keith's band the Blues Boys. The only group that Jones founded was the 27 club.

So TRUE !!!

Baroque itself as a style is inherently psychedelic especially bearing in mind that Rococo is its crowning glory (even including the very name).

Mick and Keith WROTE THE SONGS. That is why they got the credits.

Queen had the right idea by sharing credit. Not only is it fair, it more accurately reflects the song writing process.

@@TheaterPup Queen had the right idea for a band where all four of them could and did write hit records. The Rolling Stones did not have that luxury. Only Mick and Keith had the ability to write hit records so they had to do things differently. Lyric and melodies only came to two of them.

@@williardbillmore5713 I doubt no one else was involved in writing ,but the glimmer twins are good,occasionally really good , but never as entertaining as they were when Brian was with them Heck the greatful dead wanted to kick jerry out of the band because of his drug habit -….naturally 2guys with huge egos like Mck and Keith are just going to say “F “ that dude ,besides that means more dope for them, although I don’t think they did that sort of thing 🤔

@@donaldcolucci2557 Most fans would disagree with your assessment...The general consensus among Stones fans is that they did their best work in the early 70s just after Jones departed.. None of the band were complete strangers to drug use but Jones was over the top obsessed with being as high as he could be all of the time. Mick points out that Brian could no longer function as a musician, but in fact, we all found out that he could no longer function as a human being.

As were Mick and Keith before they joined up with Brian. What was your point again?

Brian was UNSUCCESSFUL at trying to start his own band, so he asked Keith if he and Ian could join Keith's band and Keith agreed. Funny that Brian Jones worshipers will not believe Brian's own words when it doesn't fit their narrative..

@@TheaterPup The point is that Mick and Keith and Dick Taylor WERE successful at starting a band who sounded very impressively just like the Rolling Stones six months BEFORE Brian joined them. The recordings they made prove that out, puppy. Jagger's unmistakable vocal style and Keith's eclectic and driving rhythm and blues guitar sound are there on early Blues Boys recordings well before Brian joined, for anyone to hear.

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Somewhere...

The Rolling Stones were NEVER " Brian's band" They were ALWAYS Keith's band as they remain to this day.

No, he wasn’t. And that’s absurd to say that.

@@fuchsiaswing8545Actually he was.

@@TheaterPup He wasn't the Rolling Stones. They go nowhere if he’s the principal member. Indeed, he was crucial in their formative years, but you're parroting Bill Wyman’s recollections, which are biased and inaccurate. Bill wasn't even there at the earliest period. Brian couldn't write original material. His guitar playing was below par by the mid-1960s. He was unreliable and futile in the last few years with the band. What you're saying is ridiculous.

@@fuchsiaswing8545 Take that nonsense to your other trolls buddies, sweetie. 😂 I’ll stick with the actual Stones fans.

@@TheaterPup Actual Stones fans don't over-romanticize Brian or Mick Taylor. You're the noobs who just discovered the Stones.

Brian didn't compose jackshit.

@@TheBatugan77 Imagine “Paint It Black” or “Ruby Tuesday” or “No Expectations” or… Without the Inventive Musicianship of Brian Jones.

@@TheBatugan77He composed an entire film score. And he was the arranger for the Stones’ songs. He was their George Martin. You’re not a Stones fan, dude. Jog on.

No Jones= Better Rolling Stones. There best work and greatest success was AFTER 1970.

@@williardbillmore5713 LIES !

@@SuperAnimelover100 Oh really?? Okay so cite for me a period in the band's history when they sold more albums. Filled more arenas ALL OVER THE WORLD and received more critical acclaim,than the four or five years just after they fired the drunk drugged out guy with the fluffy blonde hair. No Jones = Better Rolling Stones.

By your logic, the Beatles were no longer relevant after 1970. So yeah, your logic is nonsense. The fact is Brian's influence also kept the band remembered. It's his era hits that most audiences remember (Paint it Black, Ruby Tuesday, etc.).

The band's success always revolved around the undeniable and unmistakable talents of the bands main writers and performers Mick and Keith. Jones was a poser and a hanger on. Most of what is written about Brian Jones is sentimental myth and flat out lies.

@@TheaterPup that makes no sense. The Beatles were done, and were already legends even before they broke up. The stones aren’t the same. Brian contributed to hits, but Richards and Jagger still put in more of the work in the songs. Brian couldn’t write songs himself to save his life.

@@davemac9563 Honey, Brian was a legend before he died, he was the most popular member of the Stones, and a 60s icon by himself. Multiple sources indicate that Brian would arrange the songs they brought in, which is just as important as writing. He also should have received co-credit on multiple songs. It sounds like you've been listening to some out of date propaganda.

​@@TheaterPup👈😆 His era. Not his hits, TheaterPoop.

It’s called having humility. It’s for intelligent people. You wouldn’t understand.

@@TheaterPup It's called telling the truth....You wouldn't understand

@@TheaterPup You people better listen to , Theater Pup !!!! She told the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH !!! Some people can't handle the TRUTH !! The TRUTH sometimes just HURTS !

@@SuperAnimelover100 😁

@@TheaterPup :):)

So you know nothing about 60s Stones, got it. Next time just lead with that.

@@TheaterPup I know far far more about them than you

@@nihilistlivesmatter LOLOL Go play with your sock account, Willard.

What is your problem exactly?...

@@mikethebloodthirsty What exactly is your problem ?...

You should know.

We aren’t talking about you, troll.

@@dailyflash That isn’t for you to decide. He likely had psychological issues but the women in his life speak well of him to this day. Stick to the music. This isn’t TMZ.

​@@TheaterPup I'LL decide what I'll decide, pup.

​@@TheaterPup He impregnated numerous women and contributed zilch afterwards. You're a torch carrier, TheaterPoop.

@@TheBatugan77 I’ve decided you’re not a very good troll. 😂

@@TheBatugan77 You want girls to carry a torch for you? 😂 😂 😂 😂

He may have not been technical but his ear was amazing before the drugs and paranoia got hold of him.

@@mikethebloodthirsty The drugs, booze and paranoia took over pretty early on. No 27 year old has the amount of lver, heart and lung damage and disease that Jones exhibited at his autopsy with only three years of hard abuse. Brian could pick out a simple single note melody that someone else had written fairly well but his lack of music theory limited his ability to accompany a singer with anything more comprehensive. A child could do what Brian accomplished musically.

@@mikethebloodthirsty The drugs and booze got hold of Brian pretty early on... His liver and heart were enlarged to twice their normal size. Those diseases could not have gotten that severe in only three years. Jones had to have started killing himself with drugs and booze a lot earlier

@@mikethebloodthirsty The drugs, booze and paranoia took over pretty early on. No 27 year old has the amount of lver, heart and lung damage and disease that Jones exhibited at his autopsy with only three years of hard abuse. Brian could pick out a simple single note melody that someone else had written fairly well but his lack of music theory limited his ability to accompany a singer with anything more comprehensive. A child could do what Brian accomplished musically.

@@williardbillmore5713 you are making a small career out of trashing Jones. I would check in with a shrink if I were you. He didn't deserve your bullshit.

Yep.

Exactly.

@@TheBatugan77 I have been trying to educate Saint Brian worshippers on the truth about their idol. Almost everything written about Brian are lies.

So we have been lied to all these years?

​@@daryljackson3430 Absolutely, Daryl. You see, Brian was a malignant narcissist and a braggadocious serial compulsive liar. Bill was his best friend in the band, maybe in the world and they roomed together when they were on tour. Bill was not in the band for the first eight months after Brian joined, so he knew nothing about how the band formed or who made the decisions or who was in charge... Brian filled his head with lies about how he auditioned and hired the band members, named the band, booked the gigs and was the musical leader deciding what they played and how they played it. None of it, of course, was true but Bill believed him , or at least he seemed to believe him. After Brian tragically died the only one willing to do interviews about Brian was Bill and he would go on and on retelling the lies that brian had told him over the course of six years . The writers and journalists would then quote Bill as though everything he said was the gospel truth because after all...He was a member of the band wasn't he?...they would never check their source to see if Bill was even in the band at the time he supposedly remembered all the things that he says Brian did... Poor journalism. Then all the writers and journalists started quoting and embellishing on each other's gossipy stories as well as quoting Wyman and all his nonsense. Thus the legend was born. Complete with made up stories and extended myths about Brian writing many songs without getting credit for his "musical genius" and tales of having his band "stolen" from him.. One writer ( Paul Trynka) wrote such gushing lies about Brian that some pages in his books contained the words "musical genius" more than the words "the" and "and". They always portrayed Mick and Keith as the evil plotters who stole poor Brian's songs and his girl friend and his band and Brian as the angelic victim who fell under their oppression and bullying. Nothing could be further from the truth, but It sold books.. There never was a shortage of musical geniuses in The Rolling Stones but Brian Jones was certainly NOT one of them. Jones was a poser, a psychopath and a phoney.

Haahaa.

Give it A Rest.What The FUCK Is Y.O.U.R. Beef With BRIAN "mr.nobody?"