Was Elizabeth Stride REALLY A Victim Of Jack The Ripper? 

I think she was. It’s not that far a walk from where Stride was found to where Eddowes was found. I think the killer was interrupted extremely early on Stride, and he was so frustrated that he had to abandon Stride’s corpse, that he wouldn’t settle for this “loss of opportunity.” He left the area to escape detection by the Metropolitan Police, crossed over jurisdictions to the original city of London, and went in a direction to a public place that was known to be frequented by prostitutes. He ran into Eddowes and did to her what he would’ve done to Stride.

I agree with Steve there . The docs would have known the size and shape of the blade used simply by the mutilations , the point of entry and depth of the wounds . In Elizabeth Strides case there was no such wounds. Schwartz account of Liz Stride being grabbed by the shouldera was also backed up by Phillips and Blackwell, Blackwell in particular goea on to describe pressure marks found on the shoulders that couldnt be described as bruises , but wete fresh marks that occurred clise to the time of death , adding more weight to Schwatz statement . Incidentally , they did think two different knives were used in Martha Tabrams murder , one being a very short pladed knife, the other a pionted long bladed knife ..The smaller kbife must have left similar marks .. Cant see em being mistaken on that

Awesome video as always. I think there is so much BS going around about JtR, it would be great to have a video on what evidence (if any) actually still exists today. Either with the police or in the JtR museum. Also, are there any plans to do a live Q&A?

I think they focused on Kosminsky and the other subjects because they were Jews. There was a lot of antisemitism in England at the time and there still is even now. But it is unlikely that Kosminsky was the killer of any of the victims for several reasons. He was the one who discovered Stride's body, and he reported this immediately to the police. Of course the police immediately considered him as a suspect because he had found the body. But after detaining him and questioning him instensely for seveeral days, they concluded he was unlikely to be the killer. For one thing, he cried profusely when discussing her murder, and the police had learned to distinguish between false and real tears, He claimed that stride was his "friend." The police believed that Kosminsky's acquaintance with stride resulted from his patronage of her as a prostitute. However, they considered it possible that he had come to think of Stride as his "friend," because as he put it, she was always very kind to him." Other problems with Kosminsky as a suspect: he was complete illiterately both in English and even his native Yiddish.But they believed "Jack" could read and write English, although badly and making many grammatical and spelling errors, on the basis of the "Jack the Ripper" letter and other letters that they believed were writtne by him.. The police believed that "Jack" was of normal intelligence, possibly even above-average intelligence, while Kosminski was of subnormal intelligence. What was at the time called an "imbicile." They believed that "Jack" was very clever bececause he eluded arrest many times. But no one who knew Kosminsky thought that he was the least bit clever. So eventually they concluded that "Jack" was unlikely to be the culprit and let him go. This has not stopped many, perhaps most "ripperologists from naming him as the guilty party.

I think her injuries and their similarity to the other victims are more important than the knife. He could have lost his original knife. It could have been stolen or broken. He could have just wanted a change. Not all serial killers use the same tools or technique every time they kill. Ted Bundy certainly didn't. Great episode, as always.

A longer knife cuts deeper and more than one cut can be determined

Process of elimination - it was George Hutchinson!!

If Jack carried a black bag,it would have held more than ☝ 🔪,or is the bag a red herring?

What about Tabrum? She had multiple stab wounds I believe. Would her murder weapon be consistent?

22:10 I don't think chandlers would have cut much meat. Surely they'd have cut candles or blocks of soap.

I love Richard. He’s the best. so is Steve. Very thoughtful. These guys live this stuff. I don’t think anybody back then could tell what kind of knife was used. It’s all speculation. Just like it is with us today as we try to solve the impossible. My guess is the only thing you could really tell is whether a knife was extremely sharp or not. I think a dull knife leaves evidence of itself. Maybe, as they indicate, you can gain some information from a stab wound. But there were a few of those. Jack was a slasher and a dissector. I never thought it was Aaron Kosminski. From what I could read from his trial, he was an imbecile and impaired. I think Jack was smarter. I think he had the ability to evade. Therefore, I think his knife was something that would’ve been commonly seen in that area. Likely a butchers knife on the small side.

She was from Sweden

What is a knife?? An overused word ultimately become pure gibberish.

I always look forward to your videos 💯🇮🇪

Martin Fido RIP. A man greatly missed.

Great discussion. Mr. Blomer's explanation of the knife length debate makes perfect sense. I think he has made the case well. Thanks to both Mr. Blomer and Mr. Jones!

What about the strangulation aspect of the crimes? My understanding is that there is evidence of strangulation in the Nichols, Chapman and Eddowes murders, but none on Stride, which was also a contributing factor in the belief that she was not killed by Jack?

Jack the Ripper is a fascinating case that will never be solved ever, who ever he was he took that secret to his grave, and it probably is a pauper's grave. He may be lying beside one of his victims. We don't even know how many victims they are, 5 or 9 or 11, that's 6 killers or 11 killers that got away with murder at that time. How good were the police officers who were investigated this case. Elizabeth Stride, i think she was one of Jack's, and he was interrupted very early on. If Martha Tabram was Jack's he used 2 weapons, so Jack may have carried more than 1 knife's every time he was on the prowl that could explain the different knife that was used on Stride. Your videos are excellent, keep up the good work.

As an old butcher, it sounds like a poultry knife was used.

There must be an episode somewhere examining all the witness descriptions and determining what the WCM looked like

Interesting conversation, thank you. Personally I don't believe that the "canonical" five were all killed by the same person.

Great video. However, I have to disagree with Steve here. If Schwartz was the witness, he wouldn’t have been identifying a fellow Jew, but a local. It is a made up assumption that Schwartz identified a Jew.

Some very good points here. Many thanks :)

This is interesting.

Insightful as always 👍👍🍻

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

The knife talked about might just have been accidentally dropped. Say it was put close to the edge of a cart when dealing with something and then rolled off, like when you put something on the roof of your car and then drive away.

I have no reason to think that the police around the end of the 19th century were more competent than those of our own time, and so think the argument "they must have had a reason" is exceedingly weak.

I'm not entirely sure MJK was a victim of the same killer (or killers) as the other three. Or two, depending on whether they were related at all

I believe Aaron K and Jacob Levy worked together. It is odd that there are no photos of either one of them. Coincidence,maybe or could they have looked similar, same height etc that the police had no idea who was who?

Michael Moore has gone to seed.

Wasnt aaron kosminsky a 22 year old boy? Thats so sad. And he wasnt that bad looking. The times were so hard back then for most everyone

What I was told,Ms.Stride was a lady with her own business & attractive.

If I may suggest, your guest not repeating the same point 5 times.

Yes, she was.....as was Martha Tabram......

I think that Tom Wescott makes an excellent point that the Goulston Street graffito was the killer saying that he was the perpetrator of both murders.

Imo jtr Could've Borrowed, Stolen or Bought a New knife or he either had it in his collection of knives, I Doubt a killer like Jack Would 0nly have the 1 knife..It's also on many YT Channels that he had Surgeons Skills/ Experience ...Imo jack escaped with a horse carriage& possibly had an accomplice/ assistant .he possibly wore black leather gloves..I bet he was well known, wealthy& living in plain sight....He is long gone,130yrs now.... He possibly had Broad Shoulders, Wearing a hat& had Curly moustache& Tall in height...The policemen possibly questioned him back then??...My question is: Didn't they find DNA from the Suspect??jtr?

Do we know if there is any family members of the victims left because some victims had children so there must be some family left

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In my opinion Eddows and Kelly were murdered by the same person. This would be a different person than the three first murders. There was a good reason why Eddows wasn't afraid of Jack the Ripper. It's the same reason why Kelly isolated herself with her murderer in her own room.

When looking at the ripper case it’s important to separate fact from opinion… There is only one FACT that we know…… It was Maybrick!!!!!

No liz wasn't a victim of JTR.

I thought I knew everything. Didn't know it was a different knife.

I have never believed in the "double" event. I also think both the first and final victims were unrelated, giving the Ripper a body count of only two.

Interesting as always.