Was I Misled or Wrong About the SawStop Compact Table Saw? 

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I am a little surprised that anyone would expect this to be a precision saw and it makes me like Sawstop even more that they'd come right out and say it. Well built and accurate, sure, and maybe this is semantics but it's a lunchbox jobsite saw with a rack and pinion fence (which I agree is great). Any professional using this on a jobsite likely has a cabinet saw, track saw and is paying for the safety feature. I can't imagine a scenario where I'm using this machine to make wide panel cuts that need to be incredibly accurate. Something like this is for scribing fillers, long rips on 1x material, maybe flooring rips, long miters etc. The Festool compact saw available overseas maxes out at like an 11 in rip capacity and doesn't even pretend like anything wider is part of someone's workflow. Personally I'd loosen those cams immediately if the rack and pinion is tight because I'm never extending the fence out that far. That would be the far greater annoyance to me. If I did do that kind of work on site I'd probably set it up in a Rousseau Portamax, a $400 accessory with a built in fence which would be a good option if you're a hobbyist and space is a consideration but you like the safety feature. You could also build it into a workbench and the table top would take away from the deflection or you could use an aftermarket fence. At that point however in terms of footprint and cost you might as well get the Jobsite Pro. That one folds up and rolls into a corner. I used to own that one years ago thinking it would replace my old Ridgid hybrid that I had some ambivalence towards (now I have a PCS in the garage and we have a couple of the DeWalt saws for site work) and it's a phenomenal saw. If I only had one table saw or pulled a trailer with a ramp I'd still own it, it's just too heavy to get in and out of a truck bed regularly. Both reviews have been very informative and I'm considering buying this but I'd be paying for the safety feature and that's it which seems to be the takeaway here anyway. I can see where a hobbyist would want this to be their only saw and that's definitely possible but I don't think that's who this saw is for. Unfortunately, it's not a Sawstop for someone who wants to save money, it's a Sawstop for someone who wants to spend even more money. If someone found some way to make a compact saw that wasn't an absolute screamer I'd buy that in a heartbeat - some jobsites are remodels. And on that note, one thing I would expect from a $1,000 saw is a dust port on the blade guard or at least an option as an accessory would be nice but maybe I missed that.

You can do the comparison, but I can almost predict the outcome, both saws will deliver an excellent end result. It all comes down to what you are prepared to pay for the additional safety...

For $900 would it have killed them to have incorporated some bearings in a linear rail type fence system?

Thanks for reviewing this. For how accurate it is in such a small footprint plus has the sawstop safety feature it seems really worth the price. My hands have always been my livelihood, I've made hundreds of thousands of dollars over my lifetime with my hands. The very first thing I did when I bought my bandsaw was look up bandsaw injuries. Looks like I'll be picking this up once I get back to work after my surgery.

The fact that you can save a hand/ fingers is priceless. I also have a jobsite dewalt but it scared me a few times last year. So my wife saw a video on RU-vid and I think it was you talking about what the government was doing about the many injuries of the table saw. I’m a diy guy and retired and would like to keep all of my fingers. Thanks for the video much appreciated ❤❤❤❤

Please, please, please do a comparison. I'm a big DeWalt owner and would love to see the pros and cons of both. Thanks Matt, love your content

Would love to see a comparison or just review on the Dewalt saw to see your opinion on it. I just sold my Kobalt saw and bought it, absolutely love it so far. I was going out of my way to avoid the Kobalt saw because the fence was so hard to keep square. The Dewalt saw was square out of the box and just feels so much better.

Been awhile since I've watched, So glad to see your channel grow from a few thousand to nearly half a million. keep producing good stuff!!!

Thanks for the followup Matt. I'm glad I decided to go a different route as my concern was that it was exactly as they described, that it wasn't really a precision saw. I ended up picking up a nice Laguna F2 Fusion saw. Aside from the safety stuff it just seemed like it was too close to the saw I was replacing (which was a Dewalt with almost all of the same features putting aside the safety stuff).

This is a perfect example of how important social media has become. After I saw your previous video, I decided not to purchase this saw for use in the field. I have the 52 inch professional saw in my home shop and love it. I appreciate the updated review and have to saw that I'm very surprised that Sawstop initially just told you that the issue with the fence was considered normal. After reviewing your updated video , this saw is again in my bucket list . The thing that really appeals to me is the size of the saw and the price is more affordable too. Thanks for your video's and have a Happy New Year.

Thanks for the info Matt. Happy New Year!!!🎆

Thank you for sharing your update on the fence issue. SawStop could have been more responsive in their reply. Stay safe, warm, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia

Matt, Amy Have a Prosperous and Happy New Year... Thanks for the videos and Knowledge transfer.

Thanks for this, Matt. I just picked up one of these CTS and I had just as much slip, if not maybe a little more, in the rails as you did. It’s a little heartbreaking to have to adjust a $900 table saw as much as I did… but it’s dead-on now. For as annoying as adjusting it was, I’m grateful that the adjustments were not incredibly difficult to perform. Really appreciate your content… hope you’re doing well.

I bought the SKIL 10" table saw you reviewed a few months ago. I considered pre-ordering this SawStop but for $900+ I could get the SKIL for $299 which has a rack and pinion fence with a high/low feature plus it takes a 5/8 Dado. I have no complaints with the SKIL after 4 months of daily use. I'd rather reinvest my money into materials or additional tools. I use the SKIL with the blade guard, paws and riving knife with a micro grip push block thus in theory as long as I'm paying attention to my hands, body placement and material the risk of an accident is low.

Since purchasing the Ridgid 15-amp 10 in. pro jobsite table saw with stand. I haven't had any problems with it. I have cut down full sheets of 3/4" plywood and used it to cut 2x4 lumber for both my basic (hard duty) workbenches.

Thanks for the information & Happy New Year! 🥳🥳

Thank you for doing this review. This is the only table saw my hubby will let me purchase. So as hobbyist and furniture flipper I don’t need a huge saw but the safety features of SawStop make it worth the pain of the price.

Yes please do another video of the comparison between the two saws. Be nice to see the difference if you don't need to the expensive safety features. Thx again Matt

Like you said, the only benefit over the Dewalt is the safety feature (and I guess the miter adjustment is easier), but really, I could make a better fence with some aluminum extrusion and some linear bearings

My Milwaukee doesn't have that kind of play. It also takes a Dado stack, and it runs off a battery. And yes I use the Dado stack in my battery Saw. Because when I'm building cabinets in the mountains, and I'm 8hrs from the nearest paved road, I need something that can do everything. Saw stop needs to do better.

Yes, please do make a comparison on the two table saws. I'm looking at a Dewalt table saw but I do like the safety feature on Saw Stop.

Thanks for the update!

Sorry Matt. I have a dewalt dwe7491 that I paid $550 for and the only issue I had out of the box was the blade tilt was out by 1 degree. That took about 10 seconds to fix and is part of my initial setup checks. I would still expect more from a higher end saw from a company like sawstop. Pre shipping quality control is very important.

A 3-way comparison between the SawStop, Dewalt, and Skil table saw would be great. I have the Skil table saw partly because of your review of it. Would be great to see if the money saved is worth the difference in quality.

Happy new year to you and your family!

Happy New Year’s to you and your family!!❤❤

Yes to the comparison test! Thanks for the follow-up video... and happy new year!!!

Need more making videos. I love tool reviews. Infact I made a few Purchases because of your tool reviews save the money by seeing your videos. But I'm ready to see you actually cut up and make some things man I love that too. I still a fan and will continue to do so. Just sharing. Love to you

I bought the DeWalt DWE7491RS last week and was really on the fence of returning it to replace it with the SawStop you have. After seeing your short video and this one I’m keeping the DeWalt. Thanks to your videos I avoided making a mistake. I know you know, but the plastic cams will wear off prematurely and you’ll have to replace them. Not what I was expecting from almost $1000 job site saw with a big brand name and it doesn’t even come with a stand on wheels . I’m also waiting to see a DeWalt vs SawStop table saw video. Thanks for sharing your experience.

Thanks for the review. I would suggest you might use the Dewalt 7491RS if you want to compare to the Saw Stop CTS.

I'm personally using the Skil table saw and it's been fantastic. It's a third of the price of this saw and has the rack and pinion fence which makes perfect cuts every time. I like the safety feature of the Saw Stop but it doesn't justify the 3x price. I'd like to see a comparison video of all 3 if possible.

Thank you for the update. I am curious about how it compares with the dewalt. Also, how about making your own inserts? I have made zero clearance inserts for my dewalt and it is not hard. I’m wondering if it’s the same for the sawstop.

Hola! 🖐Good video, lots of detail explanation. Definitely a comparison video. Take care and have a good one, Adios!👊

Great follow-up video. I would love to see the DeWalt vs SawStop comparison.

Thanks for the update. At a $600 difference I would go with the Dewalt and let my knowledge of using my tools safely protect my hands. Use a blade guard 99% of the time and practice proper skills.

I would like to see a comparison video. I'm curious to see if you're really just paying for the safety feature, or if the Sawstop has other advantages over more affordable saws like the Dewalt that more justify the price

Yes, absolutely yes do a comparison video. Please and thank you.

Early last year I cut my thumb on a DEWALT saw (totally my fault btw). After ER visit, 7 stitches, and follow up with a plastic surgeon, my bills were more than the cost of 4 SawStop saws. $900?! That’s peanuts!

Ya I don’t use millimeters either😛😝 Great review always enjoy your videos they are very informative thank you keep them coming.

Thanks for the update. I love the honesty. I think the Dewalt 7491 is the better comparison on price. I got an awesome deal on a refused delivery and love it takes a dado stack. It has a few shortcomings as most job site saws do, but as Tamar and others prove you CAN do fine woodworking with it. As for customer service, i hear its gone down since Festool bought them.

Yes please do a comparison video Matt. I owe the 8 1/4 dewalt jobsite saw i would like very much to know which is better

How much does locking the fence in place help to reduce play? I noticed in your other video, where you noticed the large play, that the fence adjustment was not locked. Would that have helped reduce the play some, or would it be not enough to make a difference in that case, with the cam not adjusted yet?

So, can this CTS be use with precision or is it strictly for framing?

Thanks for the overview of sawstop jobsite. I'd love to see a legit comparison between the two if its apples to apples, maybe doing the five cut test with each on half a dozen different types of materials. I'd also be interested in both fences being flexed at full extension, table construction/flex/flatness, differences in plates (zero clearance vs?), knife/blade removal, amp draw start up/under load and do they both come with stands or did you buy bare tool. Then the big ticket differences. Dado etc, zillions of 4/5 star reviews vs safety. Which would you pick if sawstop didn't have the safety? Would you choose different if it was going for jobsite use vs compact beginner hobbiest that wants/needs some precision. Did you say you spent around 300 for the 10" dewalt? This probably wouldn't have been soooooo long except I'll be buying one of these two soon for my first table saw and would love to see you crush a comparison. Thanks again.

If safety is your number one then this is your job site saw. Myself, I'll take 2 DeWalt 7491 and take my chances. I'm over 60 and can still count to 10.

I would be interested in your opinion of the comparison between the Saw stop and the DeWalt.

I am thinking of buying this specific saw. After almost 30 years using a Sears brand saw i want something more precise and safe. Thanks for the review! It is expensive but i know it will last along time!

I would like to see a comparison video. I have the Dewalt job site saw and have been very satisfied with its performance, so it would be interesting to hear someone with vastly more experienced opinions of it.

I currently have the Dewalt. I’ve had for several years. Really a nice saw. However at this price point I’m upgrading. My fingers are priceless!

I watch your channel all the time, respect your opinion a lot. I have a very small workshop (9' x 18') and I'm contemplating either the CTS or the JSS, that said I've never used my dado set that I still have in the box, so going to the JSS seems like a lot of $$ for just that. Not sure about the saw stand, probably want to build a good one for the saw & outfeed. Your thoughts if you have a chance. thanks

Hi I have the same issue with dewalt DWE7485-XE , i contacted dewalt and they said its normal and there is nothing u can do about , have u faced the same issue with your dewalt there is like 3 mm play when its fully extended

I have a newer version Hercules table saw that has all the features u mentioned for the saw stop except the safety feature of course. From the factory it needed a slight adjustment with the fence, same adjustment as the saw stop. And for $349 on sale now. The rack and piñon fence was the reason I purchased. Has a 10” blade compared to dewalt over $600. Very pleased with it. Been using it for 9 months with no issues.

I think you do great comparison videos. I very much doubt I would purchase a SawStop for immediate future, I won't so short sighted as claim that day will never come.

I love my jobsite DeWalt 741 table saw. It's fence is fantastic and was practically perfect out of the box. And lots cheaper. That saw looks so chincy.

Yes I would also love to see a comparison for the jobsite tablesaw, I have a Dewalt and I would love to see that comparison

Thanks for the follow-up.

I'm new to woodwork. Should I buy this or spend the extra $ and get the JSS with Dado?

Yes do a comparison… great video thanks!

If you use some wax, does it slide better? I use a wax based bicycle lube in the shop quite often.

Can I use makita blade or bosh on this table saw or I must use sawstop blades?

Comparison would be awesome! Thank you!

I agree with your assessment. Just because it's a "job site" saw, it should be just as good as a full table saw. Someone may purchase a job site saw that is limited on shop space but still wants the saw stop. Hopefully Saw stop will take this into consideration in future designs. Happy New Year!

would you please review the stand that sawstop sells for this new compact saw. it looks kind of flimsy. is there a better alternative? thanks

Thank you for the update Matt! I’ll echo what’s been said already that it would be kinda cool to see a comparison between the Dewalt, Skil, and SawStop. Also, some of the comments here are just ridiculous... people have to understand there will be trade offs with everything... A jobsite table saw will be smaller, less powerful, and less precise than a high-end cabinet saw. A high-end cabinet saw is not going to be overly transportable to the jobsite. Figure out your individual situation and what you need, and go with that!

After adjusting the fence I think to compensate for the stiffness of movement I'd say using a hand crank handle instead of a circular knob might solve the "annoyance" some

I still think, that part of the reason for them to enter the job site saw market, was to extend their patents which some of which are about to expire

My Skil SPT99 jobsite saw has practically the same rack and pinion fence system. Been a great saw too, and love the motor and power it delivers. It's pretty nice, but at this point I need me some of that good old American cast iron. If that even exists anymore?

Thank you for investigating and reviewing this saw. I have been looking for such a product for my very small workshop. I see a lot of complaints from people saying they don’t want to pay $900 for this table saw vs. $300 for a non-SawStop saw. I don’t see it that way. To me, it’s $300 for a great compact table saw plus $600 for the extra safety. I figure that if I would cut a few fingers off, it would cost about $6,000 to reattach them, so 600 bucks is a bargain. Four guys I know have made hospital visits for woodworking injuries. Nothing as serious as having to reattach body parts, but enough for a hospital trip. It seems that the ones who are most confident that it won’t happen to them are the ones most likely to have an accident. It’s just a matter of time. I don’t want to take that chance. Thanks!

Hi. I'm just wondering why different brands release different types per region or country. For example, Bosch released a GSB 18V-55 combi drill in the UK/US with 55Nm torque but only released GSB 18V-50 in my country with 50Nm torque. What's the reason for this? Hope you can do a video regarding the reason why there are different releases per region/country. Thank you.

I chose the Skil TS6307-00. My Unisaw is of no use to me as it takes up too much space, have to have room for the EV as well. First job is to build fixtures and foldable supports. Going to love designing and building again.

Definitely need to do a comparison video!

Yes! Please do a comparison of job site saws compared to the Saw Stop job site saw

I agree with you Matt. I think it was wrong for Sawstop to say it's not supposed to be a precision table saw. Some people save years to get their own table saw for their shop. DeWalt and Milwaukee don't say that about their tools because they don't need to. It should not have been released until it was engineered to perfection.

Can you use the dust collection blade guard from other models with this model?

Yes do a comparison vid for us cheers

I ran the Dewalt 10" for years! I would love to see how it compares to the Saw Stop.

Very nice review.

You were absolutely not wrong!! For that kind of money you should never have to go through what you went through. There are too many great job site saws on the market that cost less and are ready out of the box. Great review Matt and no shame in telling the truth.

Thank you.

I’m dumbfounded that a SawStop employee said it wasn’t meant to be a precise saw😮. At that price I don’t think I’d say that. Looks like a good one to me though.

this was awesome! buy I like dados! would you do a comparison video for DeWalt and Rigid table saws please?

Please do a comparison between the job site saws DeWalt and SawStop. I like the way you go in depth with such an accurate and detailed comparison. Besides…..if I can save money on a new machine I can afford a new air filter . ❤that idea.

I would love to have the PCS from SawStop. I don’t think this jobsite version is one that I would be interested in though.

I would like to see a comparison video for sure sir.

Great review & update. Good one. I'm looking between the Saw Stop and the Metabo HPT Table Saw | 10-Inch Blade | 35-Inch Rip Capacity | C10RJS - what are your thoughts on that saw, sir? I'm re-building my shop and I want to upgrade from my aged & slightly beat up Bosch 10" saw.... Your thoughts please? Thanks for the great videos!!!

Please do a comparison to the DeWalt. I am going to be in the market for a new saw soon and trying to figure out the best for the money.

My Bosch GTS 10 XC Professional table saw is rock solid straight from the box.

Would like to see the comparison between saw stop and dewalt.

I have the Skil compact table saw and really like it; no issues at all. 😊This saw is just too pricey for my budget. Thanks for your review.

Great video, and glad you sorted out the fence.... TheSawStop fence is a total rip off of the Dewalt DW745 fence, bet they purched the rights from Dewalt or are they part of the same overall corporation. Cheers Paul in the UK

I figured the vertical movement of the fence would not be an issue. The distance to the blade does not change by any practical amount. The piece will lay flat on the table for the 90 degree cut so the cut is the same with or without the vertical flex.

I've been happy with my Dewalt 8.25" for $300. Also it's $199 w/stand at Tractor Supply!!!!

Please do the review on both saws! I’ve got the exact other saw!

Two other major problems with some or most units: 1) arbor runout: I had to return the first unit because the blade wobbled like crazy. The new unit is better but far from perfect. 2) the top is NOT FLAT at all. Meaning I had to sand down the coating and some aluminum underneath with sand paper glued on a flat panel. At least it’s close to being flat around the blade now. In summary: you buy this saw for the safety features. Everything else is average jobsite quality.

A couple of years ago I got into an argument with my DeWalt table saw. A nasty kickback got me sliced up pretty badly, but after the ER and surgery, I kept my fingers. One finger will never be quite right, but it serves as a safety reminder. I don't believe that the DeWalt was bad or at fault. Hey, kickbacks happen. My point in this post is that yes, I would love to have a nice SawStop table saw, but the cost makes it unlikely for that to happen.

I imagine that they will operate pretty much the same except the addition of the safety feature on the sawstop. Maybe you'd discover something else by doing a comparison and/or test.

Love the safety feature, but for me, it doesn’t have enough features for the price. I think I’d rather get dewalt or Bosch. Would be awesome if all brands tried adopting this type of safety in their tools as well

Dear Mr. 731 would you kindly give us a full speed demo of this saw cutting 45 degree 2 layers of ¾ ply? No one shows this saws cutting ability it would one of a kind