I did that too but only once because that white screen almost burned my eyes and i can't recognize anything for a while 😂at full brightness ofc because why not 😂
I have the 32" 4K WOLED from LG with matt coating for two weeks now. The internet is going wild for it to have a non-glossy coating. I took several monitors here and all I can say that in the realm of matt coatings the LG has the best matt coating. My TV is a C1 so I do understand the appeal of glossy. I do agree that the difference is quite small.
Dawid for the love of god get them to put the shop on the north end of Miami. They won't get any staff putting it on the south end and the place will run like garbage. For those who don't know, South Miami shares it's workforce with the Keys because no one can afford to live on the islands. The keys pays them massively more than Miami does so unless Microcenter is hiring at $25/hour ONLY 9 to 5 they are going to have a bad time.
It's almost done (less than 60 days until open), of course it's gonna be in Doral due to proximity to the airport and all the freight forwarding that goes on down there.
There was a trick with LCD displays that you could lay wet paper towels onto the LCD panel overnight (keeping it inside the plastic bag to not let water to evaporate) and then you could carefully peal matting layer from the screen
Bought this montor today and can't wait for it to arrive. My dad even painted that image of the pillars of creation and you convince me that will be my screen saver.
when i got my first lg oled display in 2020, i instantly fell in love with oled and the gloss finish...my fancy 38" 165hz uw ips g-sync monitor remained unused for pc games from that day until i could replace it with a 42" oled
Apparently this monitor has a glossy coating on top of a matte coating (LG isn't making the panel without the matte coating), so you get the reflections of glossy with the graininess of matte combined. edit: people are saying this is a different panel than the matte WOLED and ASUS so far is the only one using it. It's certainly not the same glossy coating LG is using on their TVs, so I'm not sure what to believe.
nope it is a true glossy coating, HDTVTEST's Vincent explained that MLA+ panel 's diode 's arrangment is different from their previous Evo panel. thus the distortion of light would look different. the only Woled which had glossy on top of a matte Coating is Dough only.
I'm 45, so when I saw shades of green, my first thought was "That's weird that they did a Game Boy mode." Then you were like "Night Vision Mode" and I was like "Oh, yeah." And, the funny thing is, I was in the Army 20 years ago, so I've used NVGs.
@@bluenexus1212 Makes sense if the military still has surplus from the old ones, might as well use them on something. Shame though, the ones I got were something like 2500 on a sale and I wouldn't trade them for anything. Being able to see the sky in perfect clarity at night is amazing.
@@mirarid Sure can. In fact I used to have 3x27" monitors for years all on their stands, so the 49" is saving space... Place the printer, HDD enclosure and headphone amp etc behind it and they're out of the way too!
@@cenciende9401 Depends how big your desk is too, mine is only 100x60. Not everyone has huge desks though. The 42 inch C3 is barealy doable for me I guess
As someone who has astigmatism that results in matte coatings turning all monitors into Vaseline, I approve of glossy monitors. It's nice to see that there are lower priced options than the 4k QD-OLED panels coming out.... but I think I'll keep my 4k 240Hz ;)
The resolution of what you see in all those reflections is really impressive. And if the sun comes out it automatically adjusts your priorities in life. If thats what you want from gaming tech.
Qd oled makes eyes tired. Had aw dwf and my eyes were red from 9-5 work. Had no issues with the lg 27 oled. Now trying g80sd. Lets see if they have fixed that problem
the problem is open a window that lets the sunligth enter in the room so you cant see the monitor, only the reflection of you and the rest of the room those glossy screens are great until there is a second source of ligth in the room
literally this. I own an LG TV and the gloss is great at times, but seeing my entire room behind me can be a bit ridiculous for daytime viewing. You won't "see" the matte coating with nothing else in the room to compare to, but you will always notice reflections. IDK what I'd go with tbh if I was going for a monitor.
Nope, completely depends on the location and angle of the light. Why would you have a window directly behind you anyway? I'd rather be able to take a look outside!
@@cenciende9401 damn yeah now you mention it, i should perform some alchemy, move my window from behind me and place it next to me into my neighbors house to reduce the reflection. im sure they wouldnt mind seeing me game will they are trying to sleep.
2:35 I assume you didn't clean your older monitor for that comparison shot to really show off that "dirty screen" effect. 😆 As for me, I prefer matte coatings. Glossy ones look dirty the instant you have impure thoughts while looking at them.
Thanks micro centre for sponsoring a fellow Canadian cause apparently our Canadian stores don’t feel like it. Just sucks cause it’s too hot to pull my polar bear out and it usually takes a few days to get there riding 85 paws/hr.
Personally I would only want a glossy monitor if it's actual glass like what Apple has. Glossy plastic scratches so easily and visibly, you have to be careful when cleaning or transporting these. I guess maybe there is no demand for glass panels for gamers, but I wish there were.
Gonna have to disagree considering I have my old 12 year old glossy IPS monitor setting on the floor in a corner as a backup (was one of three back when I used it), multiple moves just placed on the back seat of a car, cleaned with a regular rag and some windex etc. Still flawless, way easier to clean than the matte monitor I have now!
I went for AW3225QF and have literally zero regrets. Hands down the best monitor I owned - I replaced LG C2, and it's a proper upgrade, even though it's a smaller monitor. 🙂
@@bootchoo96 Yeah, I don't understand why it's the cheapest 32" 4K O,LED here in EU! In US I think the cheapest is the MSI model, but I wouldn't want to buy it as I don't like the design and wanted that curve. I wanted a curved monitor ever since I had Samsung Oddysey G7 which had a massive 1000R curve... I would like this one to have it too, but hey.. it's the only curved 32" OLED so I'm not complaining 🙂
You know, there's a lot of disavantages about being mostly colorblind, but one thing I dont have to be picky about is the details of monitors like color accuracy or color bleed for blooming.
@@turrican4d599 But the difference isn't great. For example I see no difference between 1080 and 4k resolution. What's a natural colour to me is probably not a natural colour to you. The best explanation I have come up with for myself is that I only see the primary colours. All others are only different shades of these.
@@frederickclause2694 Sorry about the tone of my previous reply. What I was trying to say is, more people than not would appreciate a better monitor, with accurate colours, whether they can see the full range of them, or not. It's just so nice when a monitor actually has red, not just different shades of orange. I can fully recommend a good IPS panel if you ever need a new monitor. Unless OLED goes mainstream by then, of course.
I have been using Oled TV's as my display for going on 3 years now, before that I was using Qled. I think the problem with alot of these Oled "Monitors" is they are so heavily geared towards gamers that they jam a bunch of rubbish presets into them which make them really difficult to calibrate out of the box. You would think a TV has that problem but they really don't. I was using the 55" LG CS for a while but opted to go down to the LG C2 Evo 48" and the experience for me is far better as the pixel density is far better. In terms of colour accuracy, the C2 calibrates extremely well and for me as a 3d animator, vfx artist and Game environment and cinematic creator I am loving this display. The colour accuracy along with an incredible HDR experience when gaming really makes this screen pop. One thing I noticed in your video was when your Asus display was off (not even going to talk about the matt display as those just leave an ugly taste in my mouth) but when the display was off, it wasn't completely black like the LG Oled TV's I have. When my screen is off the panel is pitch black, it doesn't have that grey/brown look to it like yours did. I wander if that isn't some sort of filter on the display that is causing your dirty white effect as I don't have that issue on my screen at all? The colours are incredibly uniform.
I love glossy displays they are brighter than matte displays I just have lights that shine on the ceiling to light up the room to stop glare on a screen or lights behind the monitor
Read about screen uniformity, it's the main culprit behind a "dirty screen" effect. Try a QD-OLED display... it genuinely has some of the most insane screen uniformity on any display you can test. Pure white screen is actually pure white on a whole panel, even TV sized(I own a 65" S95B from Samsung). Downside is that the colors are so insane and saturated that you will very likely NOT enjoy the presentation as it's clearly opposite of a "accurate" display LG does.
Colour accuracy can be calibrated towards so long as the panel is capable of displaying the respective colour space. That's not really an issue in most instances. There's also very good QD-OLED monitors on the market with very decent factory calibration for those that don't want to fiddle around with it & for accurately showing gaming content (since those usually aren't subjected to colour management profiles).
I originally wanted an Glossy Oled Monitor but they didnt have the Alienware in stock so i decided to grab the samsung g60sd and im keeping it. Absolutely no glare! and the picture is absolutely stunning. That being said if i had a room with less light i probably would have gone with the Glossy monitor! Both amazing monitors.
I gamed on my QN90B for a month last year. It was a great experience, but glossy is pretty distracting to me. That’s purely my standpoint though. My screen was facing away from the window and I generally game with my curtains closed. IMO matte is crucial for PC screens.
I swapped from a 4K TN Panel with matte finish to a 40 inch 4K TV with Gloss finish. Yes the 4K Monitor was really sharp on 28 inches compared to the 40 inch one. But tbh. at 110ppi I don't see much of an issue to just use an 40 inch screen. But what I realized is that many things appeared more clearer and more "sharpish", when I swapped to a gloss screen. Something on the monitor made it always look like it had extreme softness on the edge.
I noticed this same thing with my corsair Xenon Flex. Unless there is some other color up, the white looks almost like its dirty. I think its supposed to do that as a way to save the OLED screen from having some burnin issues quickly. Its like it intersperses pixels on/off to prevent burn in as well as flash-blinding someone. I was playing pubg and I was literally blinded by a flashbang because the screen got so bright.
The perception of reflections is not limited to their visibility, but also to "how" it is visible. In the left image, the reflection is sharp-edged, and these sharp-edged reflections cut through the actual image, which is simply more disruptive. On small Displays reflections however isnt a big problem, I couldnt live with that on a 55inch TV. Sun and light is then everywhere, not easy to hide. And I dont want to watch TV in a bunker.
Oh my god, i thought i was the only one with the dirty screen effect, but i finally found someone else with this issue and it indeed has to do with the crappy matte coating that LG uses on their displays. It essentially looks a little grainy and whenever there's something white on the screen or just a brighter colour in general, you can clearly see it being like that and it annoyed me so much that i just RMA'd the monitor.
I'm currently using a Samung G6 OLED that comes aith a matte coating. The coating works very well for my conditions and it has spectacular colours and contrast. It may be less vibrant than a glossy monitor, but for my current needs, the matte aspect is very useful. Edit: Just realised this sounds like something AI would write.😅
It's not less vibrant, it's just anti-reflective. The hype that glossy finishes make OLED gaming monitors "better" is a joke. Glossy monitors just cause more eyestrain headaches, stop asking companies to change from matte to glossy, there's a reason all the best gaming monitors have been matte for decades - it's better.
It's definitely not anything to do with the coating. It's the way the oleds are manufactured, I've had a lot of lg oled TVs, they're all glossy. And all have had DSE. Oh and microcenter, we desperately need you in the UK. We have nothing like this over here!
I used to have glossy monitors, light was never a problem, I don't know where people have windows to be complaining about that so much or why they would position their setup so badly. No, I just don't like seeing the reflection in dark areas of the screen, or when it goes full black being jump scared by my own face!
i took the risk and a few days ago ordered the glossy 32 inch Spectrum Black from dough i really hope i dont get scammed but it could be the best monitor for years to come.
I think that the problem you are trying to solve is not related to the monitor finish. It's because of the brightness limiter of OLED panels. You can turn it off. It might be in the User Menu. But you might have to access the Service Menu. The display is crushing the White, and it's dynamic. It does it more the larger the solid white area. You need to turn this off. Every brand and model is different, so where the setting is can vary a lot. But if you turn it off, that grainy effect will go away on both monitors.
Glossy screens have fallen out of favor, but I'm a big fan of them for two reasons: Cleaning is easier and the colors seem to pop so much better with more vivid contrast. I put up with problems of reflections by controlling the angles of light in my office.
I have a 49 inch Oled 32x9 Ultrawide Gigabyte monitor, Its absolutely amazing. Its QD Oled, and Glossy, and what separated this and i feel all Glossy oleds vs Matte displays, are the deep blacks, on the LG Oleds i have used, and i have tried out Many oleds, whether in stores or buying and returning, The Matte Blacks just dont give me the Contrast im looking for.
I bought the LG oled after Dawid bought the bendy LG. It's everything i want it to be, and the matte finish is better as no one wants to see their reflection in the screen during erm, "personal"time.
@@Xenoray1 you do understand that blinds do not make your space black instantly... It's not like an on & off switch and reflection can & do exist in darker environments also ..
Just to point out, there are 32” 4k glossy monitors with hdmi 2.1 that will let you game on a ps5 or Xbox series x at 4k at 120hz that cost around the same place and in some cases lower price than micro center is selling this one for.
@@ELpeaceonearth no the Xbox and the PS5 can’t hit 240hz. However, they can hit 4k@120hz using hdmi 2.1. So really a gaming monitor is always a good investment considering no 4k tv is set to 120hz. Right now my Xbox series s is connected to a 1440p gaming monitor using a hdmi to DisplayPort adaptor cable so I can get 1440 @ 120hz on games that support 120hz.
Im glad i bought the 27GR95QE on a discount instead of paying twice the amount for this ASUS one. This matte graininess only appears to me when I start looking for it.
Microcenter needs to open a store in Maine damnit. All these chains seem to forget about us up here in Vacationland. They'd make a killing opening a store in Portland Maine. Come on Microcenter.
that is a w oled, not the clearest of the oled tech, put it next to a qd oled and the dirty screen effect is almost gone, all oled struggle with the pixles in the dark gray area. but w oled is horrible with that on top of the dirty screen effect. or you can call the dirty screen effect the over look, and the two causes: bad gray uniformity and the panel coating/lens array.
I think that the glossy monitor does something the matte won't do, which is darker darks. matte monitors always have that sort of grey tinge over the black areas as you see the matte. The glossy tends to show those black better, which I think is why you are seeing many of the gaming presets lean that direction. You can see the difference in the video around the bright star thing on the lower right. The area around it should be very black, and it was clear the matte monitor had a grey tinge to the whole thing. Otherwise, the monitors are so damn good - both of them - that either one would satisfy 99% of the people.
I have had a lg oled for about a year now and yes, that void like black is just crazy. Before the lg i had a Dell ultrasharp ips that has the weird medium grey blacks so going from the murky grey to the dark blacks of the oled were quite impressive. i have also noticed the screen door effect of the brighter colors but forgive it because I dont think their is a better display right now. I think the screen door appearance has to do with LG's pattern of sub pixel pattern compared to the traditional layout.
I bought both a glossy Qd Oled (Aorus) and a matte samsung. The glossy was better, blacks were deeper, colors more vibrant, and the matte had some greyish haze I didn't like in a bright room. I think you're missing out on some Oled benefits when buying a matte / semi matte oled display
I might be one of the few who really prefer matte screens over glossy. I've had both and fell back to a matte screen. I helped my sister buy a portable, it had a glossy OLED and sure it looked nice, but the reflections made me crazy. Still if she hadn't bought it I would happily bought it myself as it was the only OLED screen I had seen so far. But it's been years and I can't imagine the horror of having a glossy screen now. As I said I might be one of a smal group of users. I'm also older than most of those watching this channel, and it shows in my preferences being more for usability than rainbow LEDs and bling making your computer look cheap..
The only thing you're missing out on with a matte screen is eyestrain headaches. It is not as "murky" as Dawid is implying, nor does it fix the white issues. Do your health a favor and ignore how initially fancy the shinier screens look. The matte finish won't bother anyone unless they obsess over videos like this. Glossy = headaches.
You gotta try the alienware ultra wide QD OLED or a variation of it (but i think alienware's execution is the best, definitely not because i own one) So the AW3423DWF Ultra wide, QD OLED, semi glossy? finish. And i really cant find any issue with white but maybe i just got used to it
I have the same monitor, and was just going to say I never noticed the issue with whites. Still can't see it, but maybe my eyes are not sensitive to it.
Exactly the reason why I prefer to have a glossy screen on the Steam Deck OLED too. The image looks sharper and allows all the HDR to punch me in the face.
I'm not really aware of the "dirty' screen. The glossy monitor looked warmer while the matte monitor looked cooler. If I was to turn my monitors overall brightness down then I might could see why it would look dirty, but the problem would be that it's just too dim making the white washed out a tad, or having a smudged effect instead of a true bright white. Could just overall screen brightness by the issue you are having? Of course there is also that fine balance between monitor brightness and contrast to think about as well.
I just got the new ASUS 34-inch OLED Ultrawide this past week and gaming on it has been a lifechanging experience. These types of displays are incredible.
A long time ago I bought a cheap-ish lcd monitor to replace my crt one, might’ve been still 4:3 too. Anyway, it was glossy and looked so vibrant! Unfortunately it had a cluster of permanently red pixels towards the center. I brought it back, and the shop owner pointed out that some pixels can be faulty, it wasn’t covered by the warranty… then he tried turning it on, made a “ah, ffs!” face and agreed to swap it with a different one.
C'mon Dawid, you keep forgetting to use the Spyder, calibrating both monitors would have been a better comparison than choosing the closest picture profile!
I bought the Samsung 32in 4k variant and returned it for the Alienware. Matte screen made me feel like it was a TN panel and proprietary power plug killed it for me. I have a cat that likes to chew on things. I DON'T think he would kill the cable, but just in case he did, I do not want to sit on the phone with Samsung trying to get a monitor cable.
I have an LG Ultragear monitor. No OLED, but I have the same blotchy looking white on the display. I usually use dark mode in Windows, so its not very noticeable, but on a bright white screen it looks very blotchy.
I use an Alienware AW3423DWF. Great monitor with excellent color calibration. Although I did change the color gains from 100% on everything to 92% red, 93% green and left blue at 100% because I've never been a fan of overly warm/red default color profiles where even when I'm looking at a pure white image, it still looks oddly reddish orange. A trend I've always seen on virtually all monitors I've ever used (except one), not just OLED. I love the color vibrancy of OLED, but I also like a more neutral color profile where colors look like their supposed to and not have everything skewed toward red because someone thinks it makes the image feel "warmer". White should look white. Not red, not blue and not green (most monitors I've used tend to favor red out of the box, but I did have one that oddly enough tended to favor greens). Anyway, that's enough of that rant, the Alienware AW3423DWF uses a bit of weird coating. It's not quite completely matte, but also not quite completely glossy either. It's a little of both and I've been really happy with it. I know the guy at Hardware Unboxed has had some reservations regarding the coating Dell uses, but I've never noticed nor had any issues with it in use and I think Tim even admitted mostly the same experience. And I've actually been really surprised with it in all light conditions. I mostly use it in a dim or dark room, but even with full sunlight in the room, this has been the best monitor I've ever used with excellent image quality with pretty much no glare that I've ever noticed in use.
Man, I really hate glossy screens for everyday use- probably because I always have a lot of lights that reflect them. They're good for dark rooms though. My main monitor is an IPS with a matte finish screen and it's super sharp- I love it- just gotta keep em clean.
I love the Shop Mode on TVs and Monitors, A Colorful Picture And a Black so deep like the Deep-Space itself. Who cares about the Electricity bill :D The Asus Monitor is just Perfect. As Always Thank you for that Video.
''..it's the kind of picture profile you'd use on a TV in a shop so that it kind of stands out compared to other TVs and then baits you into buying..'' what a line Dawid, many millions have fallen for this!
I dont think the white problem is glass type. Its probablly APL = Average Picture Level and its kind dimming white color when its on big surface of the screen. More white it will dim it more. Try to make smaller window with white ond see if white is accurate. You should also update Asus monitor. I tried almost every OLED monitor before 32 inch 4k, high refresh rate ones and last one was that same Asus model you have and its actually not that glossy. LG's mat finish was deal braker for me. Alienware 34 inch was good one. And i tried C3 42 inch and maaaaan i cant change it now. Quality is amazing!!!!
I think my preference may be matte for laptops and glossy for desk monitors. My problem with glossy finishes on laptops is when you get an imprint of your keyboard smudged into the surface of the screen every time you close the lid. And like you said, I don't think the colors are all that different between displays that are actually properly color calibrated in my experience. The colors on a laptop with a good-quality screen and a matte finish is still going to look way better than a glossy laptop with a junk screen with low color gamut.
I love when people say "WOW that monitor looks amazing" when watching a monitor displayed on the monitor they already own! If you are one of the people who does this - then keep the monitor you have right now - because what you thought looked amazing - is your own monitor displaying images! 😀
Watching a video about a Glossy OLED, While using a Glossy OLED.... I am using a Samsung Laptop which uses really nice looking OLED Display's, these are also glossy and are a HUGE Fingerprint magnet, but worth it.
The layout of my apartment forces me to put my tv screen 3' away from a giant window that gets direct sun for 4 hours/day. A glossy screen would be almost unusable because of the reflections. Semi-matte finishes are much less bothersome even if a glossy screens makes colours pop a bit more.
i Personally hate using a glossy screen with the passion of a thousand burning suns. I don't know why but every reflection catches my eye and constantly distracts me every time it changes, even when the reflection is of me and I move it distracts me.
Totally agree. And as someone who's back is to a sliding glass door, there will be reflections and glare a plenty. So it's a big No Thanks for me to gloss.
I finally got an OLED earlier this year. I went for a matte OLED because I keep my computer close to a giant window. And also it was roughly $200 cheaper than the cheapest glossy model. And I think the first thing I realised was that I definitely made the right decision by not selling my old PG279Q... Because while the OLED does have much better blacks and an upgrade from 165Hz to 240Hz is definitely an upgrade I find the dimming of the screen whenever displaying something white on the full screen extremely distracting. So I actually use my old IPS more than the OLED. I am definitely happy I got it. But I'm also definitely going to get another IPS whenever the current one kicks the bucket.
@@greggmacdonald9644 yeah i think its called uniform brightness but that will lower the max brightness of the monitor and not sure but that affects hdr, imho you should use uniform brightness while not playing and disable it when you are in a game or hdr movies etc
@@purfecto No, the problem isn't/wasn't uniform brightness (which was set). I would guess it has to do with how OLED generates the image at less than 100%, the subpixels themselves are either on or off, and if you want (for instance) 50% brightness the pixels are only on half the time, hence flicker. Ofc I am very much simplifying when I say that, but LCD panels don't operate the same way.
I can’t admit along this vein that gaming on the iPad Pro 13” with the dual layer gloss oled it’s much nicer than my desktop gaming monitors on games like Divinity Original Sin 2 or others that you can play on both PC and iOS …. So even though the camera doesn’t show it off I can see the difference here from my Samsung non-glossy screen to the gloss iPad screen 💁♂️. It is amazing for games and videos and makes me wish that I could play all my games on there natively like WoW or literally all the others that are not on iOS There have been many amazing one coming out tho. Like Neverwinter nights: Enhanced edition and Divinity original sin 2 …. Others too like Genshin that are basically PC mobile games. Or Stardew valley
