Was L.A. Noire as good as I remember? - A look into a modern day classic 

“You fuck young boys, Valdez?” Still makes me laugh when I think about it randomly.

Ah, a fellow man of culture

threatening to throw babies in jail, the 40s were wild

@@evryfckinnameistaken I mean, a lot of babies had a bad time in the 1940's thanks to the Germans and Japanese and others

In little baby handcuffs

love this!

Well, while I love your view of the game. I think you are subconsciously giving these men a hero complex. I hate to say it but what you are saying is about these characters is a bit ridiculous, though very sweet. "Cole was a good man in the end. " , idky but that is just WRONG! I am not saying he wasn't a good man. I am saying, HE WAS A GOOD MAN. For the small glimpse of their war history, being a jerk, even if it took others life for granted and as a stepping stone. That was one period of their life. In the middle of WW2. He lost sight of the value of life, as many vets have had to do in their situation. It is right? No. It just is. "Cole finally made good on Jack’s decision".....um... Jack was never one to hold onto that type of thing. Jack saved Cole because Jack could save Cole. Simple as that. "Cole realized in that damp, flooded sewer that being a hero isn’t about the reward from higher-ups-who ironically turned out to be the source of this story’s conflict-but simply doing the right thing when no one else can." ...........that is such a nice thought. I would love to think that but realistically, it was like 5 seconds after saving Jack. He didn't even get the time to think any of that or to even say a full "Goodbye" Sorry I piped in on your thought. I absolutely adore this game and I have always had a soft spot for Cole Phelps. You're synopsis was very lovely. You made me wish we could think/act like that when we get flushed. Once again, you had a lovely comment.

@@TheChryystal you wrote a book calling someone's opinions ridiculous while having an even more silly one. Adorable. Cole was not a good man. He was a deeply flawed man who did the right thing when it mattered. Unless you think people who use others and cheat on their spouses are "good"

@@TheChryystal As nicely as I can put this, are you a child? If you aren't maximum 15, I'd recommend phrasing your opinions differently. Your reply is so unnecessary and additionally you come off condescending and downright goofy. You are infantilizing the original poster and yet you demonstrate a pretty mediocre grasp of story structure and authorial intent. >I am not saying he wasn't a good man. I am saying, HE WAS A GOOD MAN. I don't know what you're trying to say here. Genuinely, you state original comment is wrong but then you reiterated what they said. Are you saying the grammar is wrong? Cole was a good man for his whole life? Why not just say that? Very confusing. A demonstration of you being condescending and needlessly goofy: >"Cole finally made good on Jack’s decision".....um... Jack was never one to hold onto that type of thing. Jack saved Cole because Jack could save Cole. Simple as tha 1. Jack did hold onto it. His entire arc with Cole is baked on him holding onto resentment post-war for Cole. 2. Jack saved Cole because Jack does not hate Cole despite his issues with Cole, which is more or less what you said. But what in your comment disagrees with original comment? Jack still DECIDED to spare Cole. Do you not agree with that? Again, use your words. Stop typing 8 periods to denote an unnecessarily long pause for what is a perfectly salient point. Or do you think Jack arbitrarily happened to spare Cole by accident or something? >...........that is such a nice thought. I would love to think that but realistically, it was like 5 seconds after saving Jack. He didn't even get the time to think any of that or to even say a full "Goodbye" Again, stop putting a thousand periods and just state your thought. You come off like a giant asshole to someone who was just giving their honest takeaway of a story. And their takeaway is pretty on the nose. You can disagree with it, you can disagree with the authors themselves, but establish where and why you disagree if you want to bother, stop with the weird posturing. Additionally, here's where you demonstrate a mediocre sense of analysis for story structuring. Yes, Cole on a humanistic scale would only have five second to process this and would not be doing a thematic conclusion as expressed. But this isn't reality. Cole is not alive. The authors - the writers, developers, however you want to call them - wrote Cole dying for Kelso on purpose. Why? Because it's a full circle conclusion of the story they've been telling with Kelso and Cole starting with the flipside incident during war time between the two men. So yes, it is a nice thought. It is also accurate. This is what the authors want. This is what Cole is doing, even if the human version of Cole may not realize it. One last time, it's ok to disagree. I disagree with the original comment. I agree with @grilledleeks6514 about how Cole is not actually a good person. But he did a good thing saving Kelso, and he finally made good on what was haunting him for years after the war. He is still a troubled, distant man who cheated on his wife. It's only an issue when you say weirdly trivializing things like "This is such a nice thought"

That line killed me. The way he says it too

One of the best scenes in the game 😂

I laugh every time it’s such quality

"are you a madman?!?!"

So fucking funny

thats cute.

It's true. I can verify. I'm incidental

That's great lmao

That sounds fun. I can imagine this in my head, And it's really funny.

It would take a smarter man than me to connect this.

It is based on real stuff just like how Roger rabbit features the same thing of destroying houses to collect insurance money building highways all the city development where millions of dollars were at stake and some shady things happened

I believe the game is set in 1947

@@TomDean3004 I forget ife they say exactly but there's a lot of context clues like the fact that communist China hasn't been formed yet in a conversation that you have.

@@aaronrowell6943 to be fair roger rabbit took inspiration from classic noire stories like Chinatown

Kind of like L.A. Confidential

I'd absolutely love similar games set at the same time but in Chicago or New York.

It wasnt held back because of console "limitations". It was held back because Brendan McNamara had no concept of time or Humanity. And because he didnt understand those simple things, he turned his company into a sweat shop.

I'd love to see another game like this but more open and more freedom on what jobs to take, where you go and when, etc

@@SvendleBerries While yes McNamara is a piece of shit, Beefjerky has a point. Any product is always limited by its hardware, even if you made it now with top of the line tech in 10 years it'd be "held back by its time/platform". So I would still love to see a spiritual sequel to this (not a direct sequel) on modern hardware. It would be damn good. Just as long as they don't do the gaming industry's 2 favorite things, Crunch and Sexual Assault.

@@AshlynOne crunch and sexual assault is the only way anything gets done

Oh wow :3 that's such a cool, special & unique memory :)

normally I think these kind of comments are lame and self serving, but yours actually felt worth sharing. Felt good to read, glad you had that.

W Experience!

@Sick em Rex lol okay bud.

My dad was away for days at a time as a truck driver but the fact yours never showed much interest in you is kinda sad to hear but I'm glad you have that special memory.

A California congressman crooked? Noooo...

@@Edax_Royeaux you do know who Richard Nixon is and what happened to him, right?

@@lolusuck386 You mean that California Senator?

@@Edax_Royeaux no I think he means the vice president who was gifted a dog or something?

​@@Edax_RoyeauxName a senator that isnt corrupt lmao. Also he may have been a California senator but he wasn't a lefty if thats why you keep pointing out the Cali thing

I literally just now realised that Herschel Biggs has the same voice actor as Joshua Graham from Fallout New Vegas, holy shit

@@MisterTipp LITERALLY!!! You mean you didn’t figuratively realise?

@@Robert-tl2vg Literally just, not literally realised.

@@Robert-tl2vg ok Ted

@@Robert-tl2vg Nobody likes a pedantic Peter, Robert

Those first few minutes were hard to listen to lol

its bon-die, most aussie sounding shit ever

I spent the first 5 mins thinking wtf did Allan bond have to do with this game before I realised 🤣

I knew I wasn't the only one 😅

To be fair to Salt, I can't remember watching a single video about this game where Bondi was pronounced correctly.

Yeah I love how Cole is a character who you feel sort of distant from, yet you can also empathize with him. There are no solidly good guys in this game, even Kelso isn’t entirely likable.

@@sense_maker1816 the coroner was a top lad

To be fair, Phelps would have learned from WWII that being a stick in the mud and refusing the perks of the jobs will only make his colleagues suspicious of him, to the point he's already been shot in the back by one. So I wouldn't call it a contradiction for him accepting watching a boxing match or visiting the nightclub with his partner, it could legitimately be dangerous to turn those offers down. He's learned to be accommodating because having no friends is very dangerous.

Characters having believable contradictions is the cornerstone of a deeper, more nuanced character. How they go against the stereotypes you'd have for that person and force you to accept them as something deeper than you can easily write off in a few words. Cole Phelps still is a very reserved man about his own feelings, but it's fascinating seeing the amount of thoughts and emotions he has going on under the surface.

Such a masterpiece

Same. Game has flaws but its worth playing. I really enjoyed the game from beginning to end.

"Don't be sad that it's over, be happy that it happened."?

Didnt rockstar developers suffer, not team bondi?

Fr tho

@treeghettox I would say that the tone of LA Noire is pretty serious. A game is just like any other medium and in other media such as film there are both lighthearted and serious movies.

they comstantly reuse the actors and the faces look like monsters. they had a marketing gimmick and didnt know when to call it quits.

At least they were purposefully overemphasizing and exaggerating expressions compared to andromeda's overall shitshow where even the gameplay and story couldn't save it lol

@treeghettox you’re trying really hard to seem smart lmfao

I was the same. I only got 1-3 stars on all the cases on my original playthrough.

@@wilbo_baggins i wasnt that bad..... as most times you dont need facial expressions if you found all the evidence you can just be like "no thats a lie because i found X and you did/were/said Y" . however..... i do have a HARD time with real life social situations . . i remember my friend introducing me to the girl i lost my V card with later that night "this is Kain.... he is REALLY smart, kind, and a pretty cool dude.......but he is socially fucking retarded" . . . and i swear to god im not trying to call myself smart, kind, and a cool dude thats legit what my buddy Chaz said...... (he was trying to help me loose my V card lol) . but.... in our small montana town of 2300 people..... i was one of the smartest in school (now im bragging..... but its true LOL) . . and ya.... i AM!!! 110% was (and still am) socially retarded but that "quote" has always stuck with me.... even 10 years later . like.... it perfectly sums up who i am..... better than i ever could sum it up as i like to ramble and go on and on and on and on (as you can see here)

@@kainhall haha I'm pretty much the same. My social skills would be like 1 out of 10.

I usually tried to pay attention to how they say something rather than how they look lol.

@@renmcmanus You know you're never getting good games again, right?

@@renmcmanus yep, the Yakuza games have some amazing stories and then you have the powerhouse that is From Software.

@@renmcmanus that makes no sense. You're losing your mind because Rockstar is making a Latina one of 2 main character in GTA lmfao. You're a moron

​@@melgibsonafter5beers626 Stop giving people that shit already. I don't care how many series and games will flop or break from the weight of corporate ineptitude life is movement and things will change no matter how doomer articles and headlines that we get forcefed.

@@nguyenten6877 no_chad.jpg

I'm more on the side of him being the manipulative total shitbag as always, yet not unlike you I also want to have a theory of Roy at that moment, reading the eulogy, he had a "Cole Phelps was truly a better man than all of us" moment.

This is probably one of the most intriguing moments of the whole game, the noticeable difference from his normal speech and mannerism would lead you believe he was sad, maybe in a twisted kind of way.

For an Australian developer was really interesting how much effort went into making a game set in a completely different county and time period. The 1950s were very different here than over there!

This is actually the civilian version of the weapon that won the war. The military version shoots underpants that are slightly too small.

Nice PFP lol

@@sirllamaiii9708 ayyyy this guy fcks!

@@Viper-py4pg ;) link to the full image?

there needs to be a mission where you shoot someone in the leg to "incapacitate them" and they just pass out within 10s and bleed out within two mins.

@@AdamOwenBrowning even better if the game still says you got "pacifist points" for committing lethal acts of violence. like the UI wants to pretend it's a generic karma system while in the story you have to accept that you just killed someone

🙏👏🙌

If any game could be considered a "cult classic" like some films, it would be this one haha. The gameplay isn't really anything to write home about, but the story, my god the story is just so good. Yet it's been played by so few people as it really flew under the radar at the time and half the people I knew who did play it didn't like it because it was; "GTA but I can't drive around like a madman or start a one-man war with the city, where's the fun in that?". I've played the game exactly once, when it came out in 2011 and the story is still taking up space in my mind 11 years later.

Likewise

The fuck were you even playing? To not only not have played a single game from the three massive series' you just mentioned, but also not seemed to realize their existence until one channel does a video on them, is absurdly stupid.

Man, I envy you being able to go through all three of those for the first time, all in a row...those are some magnificent games.

I replayed it a couple of months ago on PS4 which makes the load times way faster. The gun play isn´t the best but the atmosphere and story makes up for it in spades :)

NAM in a nutshell.

Yeah, the only real options are shoot to kill or don't shoot.

and on this episode of "Salt just picks a game and asks if its bad or good"... lol

@@richiewesson4051 he's got a hat I'm convinced, but he's really committed to the bit, with mass effect taking months off his life

The reasoning for this is while making the game the options were different but then at the last minute they changed them to truth doubt and lie regardless of wether it even made sense so now you know.

Even so, I recall a few times when the Doubt option turned out as "please think about it again, you seem uncertain".

*Presses X*

True/Doubt/Lie makes total sense ...