It feels like it takes even longer than it used to in order to rank up. Solo queuing, going 8-2 for a day and barely going up a skill division in metal ranks is rough and demoralizing, even if I had nothing but great games, even with losses.
@@tony01p10 understandable. Even getting a win streak of 2 games feels rough often to obtain. Don't think I've been able to get more than a couple this season no matter how well I've played either.
Love the new style of video. The "cassidy shooting around in the practice range while ranting" is a style of video that I have never seen before. Truly revolutionary.
Easy tip if you want to play tank, deactivate all the chats and then you have now a 10% of chances to have fun without ppl blaming you for absolutely everything that happens in the match
The only downside is that you can't notice if there are cheaters on your side. I had chat disabled this season and was constantly being pulled in by LW in one match. It was only after watching the replays that I realized that cassidy was a cheater and LW was probably negotiating the draw. I still don't know why he pulled me, though.
I find it way better to just ignore it, if you want to say something back just play it off cool don't let it get to you. People are gonna complain, that's the world and the ow community is also one of the worst with it. I know it's easier said than done but it feels so much better no letting it get to you
The fact that you, Bogur and Flats and probably some other streamers have at some point brought up League of Legends does bring me some sort of relief bc it shows you guys might be aware to some degree that the kind of changes and strategies Overwatch needs rn and towards the future a are kind of similar to what League of Legends did in the past and currently. Flats said that perhaps Overwatch leaned too much towards the shooter side instead of the moba side and i absolutely agree, there were many changes when the format changed to 5 v 5 but not a single one of those were PREPARED FOR 5v5: - Not a single type of limitation in the swapping mechanic, leaving Tank as the victim of it until the present day -Barely any real reworks for characters that were supposedly thought with a 6 v 6 scenario in mind, only Doomfist and Orisa had those types of changes and ever since then not a single character has gotten a REAL REWORK, all bc ppl are too scared of change. - Too scared to REALLY nerf things that are out of control both mechanic wise and statwise, i have never played a game that was scared to nerf stuff as much as overwatch, EVEN PVE GAMES LIKE DESTINY 2 dont have shaky hands when it comes to nerfs. The new dps and tank passive albeit a good alternative idea to directly nerfing healing and damage its yet again proof that the devs are too scared of dealing with the root of the problem. -Upgrade their Anti-cheat system, if they wanted to lean into the shooter side of overwatch more while also making the game f2p then they should have expected the impact of having a cheater to increase and should have looked for ways to improve their systems. For all i can cry about how Vanguard destroys my pc i can admit the damn thing does its job almost perfectly. Overwatch needs a real anticheat rn... Many ppl will say that both games are different and what works for one might not work for the other but i ask you this: HOW DO YOU KNOW? THEY NEVER TRIED TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT UNTIL NOW, FOR ALL WE KNOW THAT MIGHT BE THE SOLUTION TO MOST OF THE PROBLEMS THIS GAME HAS CURRENTLY WITHOUT HAVING TO BREAK THE GLASS THAT SAYS "Go back to 6v6" THAT MIGHT NOT EVEN WORK. Whats more both games are very lore heavy games which involves its characters one way or another yet League never had shaky hands when it came to retcon/rework a champion's lore in order to make their gameplay better and make their lore fit their world more. DONT BE SCARED OF CHANGE, DONT BE ATTACHED TO GHOSTS OF THE PAST.
people are mostly afraid of change if devs dont understand what draws the players of x character into playing them, for example junkrat players love risky gameplay with diving the enemy and pressuring 1v1s, but changes in s9 turned him into mindless spam hero and all junkrat mains wholeheartedly agreed that he fucking sucks
@@Thispersonisreal which goes in hand with what i said about being scared of nerfing stuff, Junkrat turned into that bc the devs were scared to nerf global damage and instead increased the health pools which affected junkrats playstyle the same way as hanzo, but those are number changes. The changes overwatch needs rn are more related to core gameplay and outdated character real reworks, i understand ppl dont trust the devs rn but the game rn only has 2 options: Revert all changes to what was before and inevitably die bc stagnation due to players not wanting change bc theyre scared Or Keep going and have a chance to find that combination that will make the game great again
I came to overwatch because it was a more moba esque experience. OW1 felt like it had a good 50/50 split when role queue went live. OW2 feels like 80/20 shooter moba and it feels awful to play. Tank was my most played role in ow1 and I don’t even touch it now
Yep, even the example emong gave for not wanting to have raid boss tanks, is an issue caused by the devs. Zarya was given a second bubble... that's it, like ofc we font wanna face a hero who's weakness was not shooting them and if you did shoot them in ow1 your only counterplay became 1 shotting her, since in ow2 we cannot 1 shot a raid boss zarya meaning if you make one tiny mistake and shoot that zarya bubble, you've now lost the team fight which is a terrible win condition and why she doesnt make a good raid boss tank, so the devs gonna actually fix zarya and other tanks before they can fix tank as a whole, otherwise everytime we make tank feel good, these broken tanks will always surface and be annoying asf to face.
First no way I want that kind of anti-cheat, I know we've given a lot up as players the past decade but please don't let a program that invasive be the norm. I do agree with the point overall. Though I don't think they are scared of change because of balance. The devs seem really obsessed with retaining the "hero fantasy" for each character. Can't completely rework dva or zarya because that would ruin the fantasy. Orissa in lore became more aggressive so making her kit more aggressive while retaining the role as an anchor tank fits the new hero fantasy. Doom is similar because a leader being the tank is a natural fit. They really need to let go and redefine some heroes. Especially let go of the idea that certain abilities are essential to the character. I'm confident there are way healthier abilities that they could make that still fit the theme of the character
Every time I have queued as tank this season, I play one game and then win or lose, I stop playing. It is so mentally draining to play that role that it just kills me after even a single game. Having to be everywhere and do everything and knowing that if I make one fuckup then I cause a teamwipe. It's so much less stressful to play DPS this season. You get to play at your own pace, click on heads all day and just enjoy life knowing you aren't the single target for every cooldown in the match.
The team with the better DPS wins the match. Tank has so little impact because they can’t get solo picks. DPS can just two tap squishies with no thought about cooldowns/positioning/any teammates lol
I feel you. Emong was talking about not being able to make plays, my solution was to swap to hog and get picks with hook. But the few times i start to have impact the entire enemy team swaps to Mauga, Ana and Zen and i just dont get to play the game 😔
@@WrektSK and another one, sombra isn't a hard counter to ball, the only thing she can do is put you out of ball form for a second. If they're only countering as sombra and the sombra only goes after you as ball, that sombra is throwing. On the other hand, if they have sombra, ana, hog, cass and zen, yeah swap.
@TheVetoxican I'd rather go against hog on ball than mauga but your point stands. Sombra alone doesn't make that much of an impact to me when I'm playing ball. It's also easy to stay on them when they translocation out.
ranked this season has felt so scuffed in lower ranks too. i was a game off of plat 3 and all of a sudden i had leavers, cheaters, and AFK players in 13 games in a row and deranked all the way down to gold 3. people just choose something to get upset about and accuse someone of throwing and just continue to throw the rest of the game themselves
As a tank main for the last few seasons. I’ve dropped off a little and have begun playing DPS too, especially when solo. Or playing more self sufficient tanks like Doom, Zarya and Ball. But good god DPS feels like a piece of cake and a chill experience (even when losing) when compared to tank! Tank is just a weird spot right now and it doesn’t feel great at all
And support is more akin to praying the 50/50 matchmaking does not give you shit dps Because as a support you literally effect nothing of your dps can't do anything. Especially with the healing debuff you are almost entirely useless
@@RandomGamerCory the only supports that "cant do anything"is mercy. The rest of the supports have more then enough to carry 70% of your games below masters. If we are talking purely for your rank in your rank. Literally all of em besides ana (low diamond n below half the time), lucio, zen, (mid masters n below half the time) mercy can carry or change fights with half a brain. Literally !demigod characters.
Having the SR loss in wide queue be as low as 1% is a nice trade-off for more scuffed games. It takes off a lot of pressure of playing with friends but still allows the competitive element of the game to thrive.
What’s been weird about it is that in wide queue the players ranked higher in the group gain way more XP than anyone lower. Like often twice as much. I don’t get it lol
Crazy. For me support it's like instant nearly. Dps I'm lucky if I'm in by 9 to 10 min and thats if I don't get a leaver in the first 5 min. Then I get a "priority" requeue of another 9 to 10 min....fun... lol....wasting my time to do maybe 2 games in nearly an hour. Tank is about 5 minutes or so.
At this point I’m ready for 6v6 to come back and condense RQ/OQ into one 6v6 open format with role limits. Seems to be the only way out of tank and queue time bottlenecks.
I have played more DPS than ever this season because it’s so so so brain dead. I’ve never played widow, yet I could just walk down main and kill 2 people instantly and we win the fight. I barely used cooldowns, and just stood in the open. 4 games in a row. Tanks can’t do that so they barely have impact in a game about killing opponents
The current dps passive is destroying the tank role as bad as 5v5 did. Both of them together is miserable. Crazy since this passive could be good in a 2 tank format but it’s overtuned in 5v5
I literally swapped to playing DPS because tank is so bad this season. At least when I lose on DPS I know I could have performed better and I can still improve.
Just had a couple of support games, and I have to say that this was the MOST stress I have been enduring in the last month, I have never had to snipe my Lucio from half across the map so that he can survive and win a 1 v 1 , while having to 180 sleep an enemy tracer while having to keep my Zaria alive while having to dodge a rocket rain from he'll knows where WHILE HAVING TO CAPTURE THE DAMN POINT. And this was not even comp. This was unranked. UNRANKED!
Speaking from plat rank, playing ranked as tank has felt about as awful as it could possibly be. I feel like I've been improving a lot, and I am climbing the ranks, but climbing from plat 5 to plat 3 after 50+ games while having a 62% winrate feels so incredibly slow. It's a real slog, especially when it feels like most games I lose there wasn't much better I could've done in order to win. Meanwhile, I went from gold 1 to diamond 5 on support this season in 50 games flat, and that actually felt like I was being rewarded for playing well.
It feels like a slog in any rank as tank. I've had many game where I win only to get like 10% then if I lose the next one for whatever reason then I lose the same % so climbing feels even worse. It's been tough to get any win streaks, hell even two wins in a row on any role even when occasionally stacking with friends.
The rank system is made to encourage addiction n gas lights your actual skill. Nothing about this game since the hitbox change hasmt been controlled by EOMM. On top of 5v5 making it impossible to carry a dead log on your team vs a 6v6 this ranked systen is effectievly and relatively a joke that should not be taking serious or an accruate reflection of skill. Esp for support players.
@Pes._ agreed. Also, dead logs, pylons, etc, at least have uses. I just had a game where I pinged an enemy dps sitting on high ground until I couldn't due to spamming of messages, I see my dps' head and body bouncing from being shot multiple times even. What do they do? Continue to shoot the enemy tank and tunnel vision in the open and completely ignore the danger...My friend and I even double pocketed to try and save them, but we were just wasting our time, lol. Granted, we were on a win streak, so the obvious solution is to make us team with folks who are clearly not in the correct rank(easily bronze even though we are in a silver 1 to gold 4 rank game)vs. teams that are more challenging yet not that good still. However, only having a competent tank and supports can only do so much when they constantly have flanking dps, often pocketed, just murdering our useless dps, who pay no attention to anything but tank etc. Then they murder us lol since our tank can only peel so much when trying to also push the payload. Good fun having a constant flank behind, above and then pressure in front on echienweld(the map this time lol).
I feel like the average player has less reasons to climb in ranked the last two seasons. The overcentralizing meta being the largest factor. The removal of end of season competitive points also makes it so the only "reward" for climbing is cringe titles and harder matches. As someone who isn't a tank main, the only thing I gain from grinding tank is harder tank games when I play casually with my friends. On damage, there is effectively very little reason to climb past the Plat/Diamond range unless you main hit scan. Support feels similar to damage in that what is the point in climbing if you don't play Kiriko, Ana, Bap, or Lucio?
Running around the training range while talking is so perfect 😂 I love the conversations with the mates that makes me unconsciously just start running around aimlessly in minecraft or like
This was SPOT on. Before this Season, Damage was my least played role, by quite a bit. Support was, by far, my most played. This Season, however, I didn't know why, but Support didn't feel fun for me anymore. Now I'm realizing, you're right: I was healbotting the whole time. This Season I almost EXCLUSIVELY played DPS. Granted, I felt VERY comfortable using Venture, and the freshness helped, but it was still a night and day difference between past seasons for me.
Taken an extended break. Its nice. Hopefully the game will be in a better state in season 12 as im not sure ill return for 11. Its been nice to play more games tbh
I play a lot of casual, as I have lost the desire to play ranked pretty much since mauga came out. Maybe longer. Even in casual, tank feels like I'm either trying my best to not play respawn simulator, or I don't initiate and just wait for anything to happen. Dps feels so much easier than past seasons. You don't have to be as good as you used to. You still get picks and pressure out positions. Also don't need to be scared of tanks punishing you as much, I feel. Supports feel pretty fair to me, but I haven't played much this season. The health pool change is basically the healing nerf I wanted.
I can confirm that when i get tipsy on dps a do play a lot better. Generally im a very conservative player, but when im drunk i tend to follow up on stuff and generally play more aggressively. Usually this results in more deaths, but i end up with plays that tilt the fight or game in our favor
if it’s of any value, i’ve just returned to overwatch two this season as a tank main and do think tank is fun to play, but it feels like you have to play selfishly to be satisfied. i main roadhog but when im forced to switch the meta and tank system right now makes it a lot less fun to play for your team as you don’t get to do all that much, and that’s a problem
Idk why but I decided to play more tank this season, thinking some of the changes might be good... forgetting I play Dva/JQ so it's in fact hell at times and feels like I MUST be perfect or even if I'm not the one constantly hitting W I get blamed. While you can live longer on tank this season, I kinda see it as this " whether you're 100 yards or 100 miles from a nuke going off, it's still going to f you up". Living longer on tank just means instead of watching my team die while respawning, now I can see it before I go back to spawn... also Jokes on you, this is my Bruce Banner moment "that's my secret Cap I'm always vibing" when I play OW 😂. But I definitely play way better when I'm vibin
For the matchmaking thing i feel a good way to satisfy everyone would be to make bronze-plat 1 matchmaking based on the players average stats which are recorded in the career profile, then from diamond - top 500 keep it the regular match to match stuff.
Venture has been fun to play this season. However, I feel bad that these newer heros aren't getting much cosmetics compared to others. Mauga has been out for a while but still had so little. Same with Illiari and Venture. Atleast the other two should have more with how long they've been out.
I think your rank should go up or down dependent on how you play rather than if you win or lose to prevent people from being stuck in ranks lower than they should be because of bad teammates. Winning or losing should still impact people's ranks but they shouldn't be the main factor as to whether they go up or down
Wide matchmaking just feels like the original OW2 matchmaking. Whenever Im in narrow Q it feels pretty similar to OW1 matchmaking in my experience so far.
With streamer mode it also shows the original players name if you look at the replay after the game, i dont know if this is really an issue but it seems like it could be although it helps to prevent cheaters maybe so im not sure
Dps just need to lose the passive. Support needs a healing nerf then. Then I’m pretty sure game would feel better. As a support main, yeah it’d suck to lose healing, but then I wouldn’t literally have to heal bot every game because I can never catch up on healing. No one likes nerfs, but the game is so overly reliant on DPS now, it’s getting annoying to play. Also the healing issue still hasn’t been resolved. Supports and tanks will still have an incredibly hard time killing anything that is pocketed by a support player, if they can even kill them at all. Devs have no clue how to balance their own game. Clearly cause they don’t play it and base most things off of statistics. I’m still in support of returning to 6v6. Just seemed easier to balance, especially tanks. But that’s my opinion.
@@SizzylI mean I think the new tank passive makes sense. Maybe remove the armor one if healing is getting nerfed a bit, but the headshot passive is fine. The global healing passive isn’t a bad one either really, just maybe scaled down a bit. I don’t think 6v6 is the end all either. I just think the game is easier to balance. Especially when you have “tanks” like ball and doom.
@@SirTaco97 the new tank passive also selectively benefits people, but yeah 6v6 won't make the game perfect, but nothing ever will. 6v6 will pretty instantly make the game more fun though for people who enjoy the moba aspects of overwatch more (like me).
I think the general feeling as a tank lately has been so team dependent that even when you win you just feel like you've showed up. Every once in a while playing quickplay with some friends maybe my friend will be like "go rein, I wanna lucio" and I'm like "heck yeah, be dumb, swing hammer," and win or lose we have some fun. (And usually we win those BECAUSE we're having fun and hit a groove) But that is so rare now that it's so sweaty in qp as well. It's a mess and every match is just a coin flip
My thoughts on season 10: Blizzard underestimated the armor changes (or overestimated the headshot reduction) which caused tanks to be weaker than they expected after the dps passive was put back at 20%. If they slightly buff armor then we will kill 2 birds with one stone, as Roadhog and Mauga have very low armor they won't be buffed in comparison to the other tanks, and hopefully that will give some breathing room for the remaining tanks who rely more on armor.
Since tanks are really different and have different play styles would love specific if they grouped tanks in 2 categories something like: Agile and Steadfast. And give abilities that is better suited for those heroes. Now I know not all dive/ brawl tanks play the same way but it would be better than just giving all heroes the same ability
Its harder to tell which job is more thankless, tank or support. Lol. Dps often get off easy it feels like for the most part in comparison and they also seem to throw the blame around most at the other roles.
My problem since Overwatch 2’s launch is the notable shift in design philosophy. The change of format made it so characters have to be independent, therefore creating more bland/less engaging play styles. The lack of nuance of newer characters and older character reworks hurts players who want to be proactive and make plays because the design philosophy has shifted to make everyone accessible and flawless. I don’t think 6v6 would solve this either, some characters are just poorly made or poorly balanced. I don’t envy the devs, from my point of view, and with how far things have gone, this is unsolvable.
Agreed. Every new OW2 hero and rework has been a colossal failure imo. The kits are clashing with OW1 design and now we’re at the point where people are seriously suggesting reworking rein. Rein should never have to be reworked. If he’s bad, the game is bad
I hope that in the next Hacked event, they remove one of each role and rotate it every few days. I want to see how the game plays differently when losing a role. Either way that or change the format from 1/2/2 (tank/DPS/support) to 2/1/2 and 2/2/1 after a few days
On pc I’m having the issue of every game is a 19-20% win everytime but the loss is 19-22%, it feels like there’s absolutely no movement, even with a win streak. It feels like a waste of time esp when I’m putting in so much effort due to every game having someone hard feeding or just not playing their role. I’m earning comp points faster but it’s not as rewarding without any rank movement.
I 100% agree with Emongg on the hacker situation. I get the ban waves, you see a hacker or two for a bit, then zero hackers for awhile. But, it is bad now. It's time to start doing one offs here and there. They don't have to be all the time but if hackers are starting to show up in major streamers' games, it's going to reflect badly on the devs/game. Nothing says a well put together game like your largest streamers having to deal with hackers in multiple games in a very short period.
My thing with them going about changes with win rates is how much are they really looking at time played on those heros, ie: reaper or other heros that suffered from this change(mind goin blank rn can’t think of others) balance should be striving to get all heros to be at a similar value, personally I think a lot of characters lost their value cause of the swap to 5v5 from 6v6
My only issue with tanks on my team is the one tricks. The one trick gm/masters dooms that do okay in the beginning, get mass countered, and then feed the entire game. Being forced to play around one trick players is annoying.
I do know they said that’s coming in a season soon, just saying in general that I think we’d be equally excited if not moreso about new maps than new heroes for modes that only have 2-3
In my opinion it's a focus issue as there's one less tank. People are going to shoot the Rein over the flying Pharah 9/10 because he's just easier to hit. HP buffs and damage boosting hasn't worked. With this Reaper rework incoming, the only thing I can't think of is giving his passive to tanks, so that way Tanks can sustain themselves a bit more and are rewarded for being active (of course they'll have to tweak the numbers and maybe have it differ on a tank by tank basis). I don't really fall on either side of the 6v6 5v5 debate but it does feel that they put way more effort into making 5v5 work than 6v6. So when people say 6v6 is inferior because of OW1 experience, the devs barely touched the game in comparison to what we've seen in OW2.
I think I almost always have a good time playing tank in overwatch, but it's my least played roll. Definitely like 5 v5 more, overwatch 2 has been cool
It's supposed to make for more fair games but it does feel like it takes a while, even more than they said it would probably. I get they would want more narrow games but its hard to always match up with friends. Also the games don't always feel fair or like winnable. Majority of the time it's stomp or be stomped, rarely in between.
For the ban waves and the «wait then ban» status, a ex-Blizzard dev (PirateSoftware) had explain it : it's to not allows to the dev' of the cheaters to know which changes in their tools make them automaticly spoted by the game. It's also aimed to break this market by making refound from the seller by waves. I don't say it's ideal, but it's the way they had chosen. (And I must admit, the cheating population had impressevely grown even at my bad rank... I even met a full team of bot. Really dumb and obvious bot but still)
The funniest part. Overwatch 2 has one of the best anticheats that isnt kernal. If not the best, and a kernal anti cheat wont fix the issue, they already have 4 hwid's or so n a few windows keys that they keep track of. This is just what happens when devs get lazy n stop trying to fight spoofers of which the devs see cause there in the cheaters discords. Maybe if they didnt lose more then half there dev team 😂
the problem with the tank meta is once again, Reinhardt who shows up in every rank still has the lowest pick rate of all tanks, with an above average win rate. His kills to deaths is also the lowest of almost every hero, so the games that he is winning are not due in part to contribution of damage or kills but because of a shift in where positioning can happen which puts teams that are used to a Reinhardt an advantage while giving a noticeable disadvantage to enemy teams, but once they adjust then that one variable is all that is needed to overcome.
DPS is only fun if you enjoy Sojourn, Cass, or Tracer. As someone who gravitated to roll for the unique characters in it, the non-CoD ones, this season was pretty miserable.
I've literally stopped playing tank except when I play with friends that are getting into OW cause i want them to have fun so I suffer for them. Also comp just feels like I'm drinking out of gallon water jug with a capri sun straw.
This season just felt boring. Ranked doesn't feel rewarding, tank doesn't feel good, and there wasn't much new content other than skins or Venture. Ranked: There are so many cool things they could do to make it feel rewarding to play. Maybe every 50 wins, then 100, etc., you'd earn an exclusive cosmetic like: - Death Stamps - Killstreak sounds - Weapon skins Toxicity is a big problem that makes people not want to play ranked, or the tank role. A community shift needs to happen, but that starts with the devs implementing things to reduce toxicity and encourage positive behavior. (outside of endorsements which do nothing)
I don't think toxicity is an issue they care about judging by the fact that Sombra exists: a character practically designed to promote spawncamping people. I tried playing mercy on Circuit Royale (Defense) the other day, and within 15 sec of the attackers leaving their spawn I was immediately killed by a Sombra just for them to then go directly to my spawn and kill me again for the Ult charge. They kept doing this until I had to give up and switch to Moira. Even then I wasn't "allowed" to use my fade ability, because the second I did they'd immediately use their virus/hack/shoot combo and I'd be dead. And before you say "oh, that's why you have to play with your team," I was with my team and was still getting hard-focused the whole match, which was a miserable experience overall despite our eventual victory. (Also this was qp, not ranked)
@@masonmurphy2679 The Reddit AMA had me fuming. For the "what's the hardest hero to balance" question they said "Sombra, because permanent invisibility restricts how deadly we can make her". Like, don't give her permanent invisibility then??? She should have a timer on it. It's what makes spawncamping a legit tactic, and in any game invisibility is restrictive for a good reason.
Honestly the game would be so much better if they just...nuked hard counters, or removed the knockback reduction passive and instead gave a CC reduction passive. Bastion, Sombra, Orisa, Kiriko, other heroes, tanks would be given so much more leeway (because now it wouldn't need 1-2 hard counters to completely shut a hero down for free) and the game would feel less miserable. Players not feeling cheesed out of a kill becauss the funny discord orb STILL has 25% increased damage on tanks when all they needed to do was nerf it to 15% for tanks only, which resulted in it feeling clunky to use on his kit, which is designed to feel fluid. Them keeping strong things but making them more miserable to use (like suzu cooldown being longer) doesn't remove the first issue, it just makes two new issues, just that the second one stops the first issue (like devs saying that suzu, a broken ability, was their answer to anti-nade, another broken ability, which itself was a supposed answer for the issue of healing creep). If they just brought everyone down a peg and maybe shifted tank survivability to be a little lower (now that they can't be stopped with just twk abilities), I bet that would feel great for sooo many people.
I have been playing OW since release and in plat/diamond and I only played GOATs 1 time and my supps on OW2 are locking LW mercy meta is non existent below masters
Remember when OW relied on teamplay more than solo play? Seems like Tanks are just stuck in that era no matter what. After all, if they any amount of power compensation, all the roles will complain despite them always asking for a "good tank".
Bronze/silver feels terrible but I want gold and jade. Maybe they should have a rank decay that kicks in for top 500 and additional rewards to incentivize them
Ranked feels incentivized for under T500 aswell to simply not play aswell once you finish placements unless you LOVE the game and I dont think tank and support players really do at the moment also the EXCESSIVE number of cheaters I've encountered and gotten "thanks for reporting" literally every day I decide to play even from just quick play. is insane. The game is in such a horrid state in that regard
(a bit late) but my honest thoughts on what needs to happen to fix overwatch 2: remove dps passive. it was an interesting concept, it worked for a bit, but god it just makes tank miserable, dies way too quick and cannot threaten, not kill, THREATEN anything without dps support. the dps passive was meant to keep supports in line, but what it ended up doing was keeping tank, a role already kind of miserable even MORE miserable...and not even fixing supports issues. actually...lets keep it, but instead, give it a additional function that will save the tank role imo, dps also converts ~10% of damage to healing on their tank in a inspire-radius. basically remove some of the stress of tank and support, and distribute it to your dps without impacting how they want to play. your dps will now help keep their tank alive, allowing the tank to assist with plays, but the dps passive will keep this power in check, meaning tanks wont become unkillable gods, but will be able to actually have a presence in fights. supports will no longer be forced to pump healing into the tank to keep them alive, tanks will be able to move up with their dps to help, and tanks will still feel manageable because they still crumble to the dps passive.
When I tank I really do feel like it's the dps support that helps me more then the support players do witch is probably why at least on consol support is instant que tank is like 2 to 3 mins and there's still a ton of zimers I have not noticed any difference almost feel like iv seen more
Team with the better DPS wins the match. Tank has basically no impact (unless ones basically throwing). Healing doesn’t help, it’s getting kills that helps, and DPS can do that without even having to know anything about OW lol
I think the dev's stance on hero swapping is fine. But I do NOT think their hero designs have caught up to what they are envisioning hero swapping to be. That is to say, counter-swapping has too large of an impact. Some heroes just get completely shutdown by others... and that's not fun. Why would I ever want to play as Ball or Doom when the enemy DPS have the option, at any time, to swap to Sombra, and just counter me all game? My fun is over at that point.
I really feel like they need to drop the heal reduction passive and deal with the root of the problem. Just nerf what needs to be nerfed. It feels like such a struggle to keep anyone alive atm, and maybe im just bad but i have to heal bot like crazy to keep up a tank who's doing his job on the frontline (god forbid). I've been playing with friends lately who haven't played since early ow1 and they still play tanks aggressively, because that's what tanks are supposed to do. They're supposed to make space and lead a team into battle. But if they play that way, they fall over if i look away for a second. Essentially: tanks being in a bad state also makes support stressful and unfun. That's how this season felt to me.
Not even watching this video for reasons that will be apparent, but to answer the question in the title: fuck no. I started playing ow in april 2021, basically started in the worst meta, but it didn't really matter. I was bronze/silver/gold for all of ow1 and mainly played qp with LFG or with a 3-6 stack with my friends. I really loved Overwatch 1. Overwatch 2 then came around and two things changed: COVID ended meaning most of ny friends were touching grass by this point (some of them graduated uni in 2022 as well) and LFG was dead meaning stacking wasn't really a thing and somehow EVEN FEWER people joined VC in game so I enjoyed it much less. Over time, with lots of weed and not giving a fuck, I enjoyed the game for a while, but then season 9 and 10 happened and I'm not entirely sure what changed but I just don't find this game any fun at this point, even when playig with friends. Open Queue is bareable at times but honestly it's not enough to keep me going, plus i just graduated and learnt the value of touching grass instead of smoking it. Tldr: no, season 10 was shit and i quit the game i once loved.
I think Overwatch desperately needs a hero pick & ban feature added. Maps too imo, but hero feels more necessary. It would obviously help with the counterpicking, to an extent. Maybe they could allow you to pick a pool of heroes so you do have the option to switch. I am just a plat chatter, though, so this would likely be terrible in practice.
I have a great idea for a major gameplay change, whenever Tanks emote everyone in sight immediately dies. By everyone I mean own team mates as well. Yea thats 3-4 seconds of your life you are not getting reimbursed, sry XD
I truly believe removing mauga will just make the game better. Yes they need to make bigger changes, just swap up the meta please. Idk how to do that tho, because there are so many heroes in this game that are just unhealthy for the game when theyre meta. I just wish the community stopped relying on the meta so much.
Yes Emogg, my 1# complaint about almost every popular OW youtuber besides a couple guys like KarQ, is them constantly complaining about things that almost only effect masters and up. In Bronze to Plat, meta, hero balance, team comp, counters, etc don't even matter. In metal ranks 98% of players just play the hero they like regardless of who's meta or what comp is best to win. So as a viewer, we are stuck watching the top 1% of players complain and since they have a youtube or twitch following everyone just echoes their opinions. You guys in top500 may hate the game now days, but 90% of us still love it and don't care about meta. Besides, the meta and balance changes every 2 weeks, by the time yall content creators make 10 videos complaining about the current meta, a new meta is already about to start. If u top 500 tanks hate the tank roll so much, go play dps, there's a million or more others willing to fill the role without complaints
Bro really said “go play dps” when the tank roll already has problems with que, cause nobody is playing it, nobody can play the game if there are no tank players😒 and nah 98% of players don’t play the hero they like, especially on tank, u get counterswapped from bronze to top 500. If u aren’t getting countered then u aren’t providing enough value to your team to make the enemies feel the need to swap🤷♀️
I feel like most tanks are "okay" to play with in gold and plat. There are some advantages to the meta heroes for sure, but none of it trumps being better with a specific character.
The matchmaking has been very hit and miss. It feels a little better, but at times, it has been awful in both quick play and ranked. Also, they supposedly put a fix to losing streaks, but that also means there was such a thing then? Not like elo hell perhaps but acknowledging the matchmaking having issues? Granted, i haven't gotten plat, diamond, and such in my silver games or even bronze like i have in the past up until season 9. Tbat being said i have seen an abundance of smurfs, hackers/cheaters and leavers still even with the new banning systems in place. Also it isnt fun winning a game and getting a low percentage like 5 to 10%(even if not in demotion protection) only for the next game to be matched up almost for a guaranteed loss it feels like where no matter how well you do, you encounter some condition(leaver, smurf, cheating, etc) and then your loss is the same as the win% so you move nowhere in ranked. Doesnt seem to matter whether bronze, silver, gold or other ranks either according to my friends and also what i have personally experienced. The grinding up feels like a waste of time somewhat with little progress to show if any at all, due to an often 50 50 sort of game you might get as mentioned previously. Its not fun at all and any good or fun games one may have are often drowned out by numerous miserable games.
