Was Shay Cormac RIGHT OR WRONG to BETRAY the Assassins??!!! - Assassin’s Creed Rogue 

​@@_majesticdrankAlso respect Shay because Shay was right

Facts

In AC3 Haytham commanded the Templars to stop looking for precursor artifacts and focus on more practical pursuits

To be fair he did probably claim down on the way back but as soon as he landed that anger bubble back up because Achilles knew that the earthquake would probably happen. Because of Achilles thousands of innocents died and shay obliterated the brotherhood

Problem is even at the end when Achilles admits shay was right, he still thinks he's right as well

Sorry but sahy should have stay calm after murdering a whole island, brother what type of mentality do you have.

@@gamersteiner6436 Achilles never knew that the earthquake was caused by messing with the precursor sites. Shay heard the meeting with Achilles and Adewale that they didn't know how and why the earthquake happened in Haiti. The artifact that Mackandal's men was supposed to retrieve was never gotten and what happened to the man was unknown. When Shay learned the true caused of Haiti's earthquake he should have remain composed and spoke sense, then Achilles would listen and realize what he's been doing, then call of the search earlier rather than near the end of the game.

I like this comment of yours you explained it well

Your comment explains Rogue quite well. And I still dislike that when we get to play "a Templar" is when the Assassins act more like Templars and Templars act more like Assassins... Isn't it lazy?

I would say the templars are mostly good tho as it's only a few that act in self interest

The templars are actually pretty reasonable people. The assassin's are just gifted but rebellious teenagers/college kids

I think Shay is that perfect balance

@@_majesticdrank still the series lost its roots after desmond died 😇

​@@_majesticdrankyeah😊

True😂

They were holding the precursor temple together

You do realise if he didn’t betray the assassins that the American brotherhood will still look for precursor sites and still interrupt them which causes cities and lands around it to fall which get’s innocent people to die. I mean the American brotherhood are responsible for Lisbon, Portugal yet they still went on looking for them.

@@_majesticdrank that is true and kinda what I was trying to say

​@@_majesticdrankwhich leads to brake one of the 3 rules, killing the innocent, Achiles understood this in the end

If everything is permitted no one is safe.

That onl hapenns if there is no other option, but there were many other was t deal with teh templars. Tha past assassins did this even a drunk pirate did it.

I completely agree with you.

Same bro, Achiles did wrong and lead his creed to destruction, but u gotta admite that the templars took advantage of this, about Shay not wanted to be more innocent murders, they dont care about the innocent they only care about giving order

@@samuelesquivel6202 Shay only sided with them because of Colonel Monro, they’ve been working together doing good. Not all Templars are brutal some are kind and help the right way

@@_majesticdrank right I remember him, he was a good one ✌

@@_majesticdrank but if you look at the stuff each assassin has done its caused pain to innocents ,also I hate the idea of "everything is permitted " because it allows the Borgia to also do what they did

@@_majesticdrank because if we look at the templars in the colonial period ,most of them didn't abuse their power ,they used their power to help innocent people ,whereas Achilles killed thousands of people just to get artifacts and Connor blindly killed templars without considering what consequences would come from it ,such as killing pitcarn which lead to the Americans vs British war etc , ezio killed innocent people in revelations when he destroyed that watchtower to get to that underground place ,if you even remember ezio leaves the brotherhood simply because he didnt agree with what he did

@@_majesticdrank well if the assasins tenants have a deeper meaning then surely we can say the same for templars ,for example the templars (especially haythams group) hated the borgias for what they did (there's proof of this in the databases ) so tenants can be seen different ways ,my overall point is that we can't look at the assasins and say "they are good and there morals are good " then say the opposite for templars because as I said both groups have good people in them and bad people in them ( achilles is the prime example of a terrible person,same with the borgias )

@@_majesticdrank in ac3 Johnson and haytham revealed that Johnson's job was to get control of the land to keep it safe for the people who lived there ,it's also revealed in sequence 10 that it was George Washington who burned down the village

@@_majesticdrank but it's explained ,Johnson wanted the land to protect it for Connors people,hickey was just a mercenary so he doesn't get a free pass but his job was to kill Washington who was fucking up completely including when he burned Connors villiage down and killed his mom because of it ,pitcarn wanted to come to peace with Sam addams and convince him to get his army back off so then pitcarn is able to get the redcoats to back off so even if the way the do it looks bad they did it for the right reasons whereas throughout the entire colonial assasins period they just did bad shit to gain an upperhand on templars without even considering the harm they did ,hence why shay defected

You are super right they really could’ve been more dangerous than the Templars

Yeah I also wish they made more Templar games to see more of their perspective to things

I doubt that because Shay killed Arno’s father

But sadly in the end. Shay turned into a monster. He started to sacrifice innocent people for the betterment of the Templars. This shows the Templars always rise to power by sacrificing millions of people.

@@gabrielandjavierpinales3689 Which innocent people did he sacrifice?

@@Argenteus189 He helped the Templars started the French Revolution and it lead to the deaths of thousands of people he swore to protect.

@@gabrielandjavierpinales3689 Well, the Assassins did something similar by waging war against the British in the Americas (which lead the massacering of natives in the end, which the Templars wanted to prevent). It plays into the bigger plans for both orders. Not sure how this particularily makes Shay or the Templars monsters and not also the Assassins, since both Templars and Assassins are willing to sacrifice other people. It's not like the Assassins cared much for the people they hurt. They showed no remorse for the innocents they robbed and killed by supporting pirates and gangs (how this would lead to peace or justice is a mystery to anybody with an ounce of sense), they also would not listen when Shay warned them that the artifacts cause earthquake that can kill thousands and shrugged of all those casualties like it was nothing. At least the Templars, while also struggling with corruption, have the noble goal of peace and order, while the Assassins are essentially just anarchists opposing the law and anybody who holds any authority (authority is nessecary to enforce law and ensure order, however). If nothing is true, peace and justice become meaningless words that can be interpreted anyway you want (like calling piracy justice, for example). If everything is permitted, chaos in inevitable.

@@Argenteus189 The Assassins never started the Seven Year War, but aided the French in the war. Also the Assassin are not entirely anarchist they are individuals fighting to protect innocent lives and their freedom. Rogue show what happens to the assassins who stray too far from their creed. Also in the game there are some bad writings. This makes me wonder in some moments I feel that Shay is being manipulated by Templars to aid them to kill the assassins. Like the thugs who broke into the Finnegans house. After Shay beat them up one of the thugs he chased actually had no idea about them and think his boss has something to do with it. Also the chemicals he learned from Le Chasseur were going to be used on the authorities. But Monroe told Shay he got some information that the assassins are going to use them on the civilians, Shay never ask where he got the information. I feel like they been making the Templars like Assassins and Assassins like Templars. In rogue it shows the Assassins use Templar tactics. The Templars uses the Assassins tactics. I think it would have made sense if the game was really played in the Templar perspective.

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he is a black not a boer so he doesnt speak afrikaans its a white language but maybe he learned it by being colonised by us@@nicaile1690

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