Was this Axe Gun really used in battle? Boarding Axe Carbine with firearms expert Jonathan Ferguson

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We have shown you the gun with two bayonets, but what about a gun with an axe!? This week Jonathan explains why having an axe on your gun (gun on your axe?) is not as impractical as it sounds by looking at the m/1703 boarding axe pistol.
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@aidanfarnan4683 3 года назад

"So, are we being Vikings, or age of sail Pirates?" "Yes."

@Zack_Wester 3 года назад

I mean Sweden was a navy power for a long time in history just that swedes navy was more in modern term destroyer and light cruisers because big ship does not work that well in the baltic sea. and if Sweden would lose the baltic sea that would be a disaster for Swedish trade and military power as Sweden is a coastal nation. not like polland that if its loses its access to the baltic sure its not great but its not crippling it.

@gregajohnson1985 3 года назад

Somali Pirates

@torg2126 3 года назад

The Sweedish where Vikings, just like the Danes and Norse

@Immopimmo 3 года назад

@@torg2126 Not in the 18th century though.

@torg2126 3 года назад

@@Immopimmo The Sweedish where still descended from Vikings

@x.anthony07 3 года назад

Ah, so Jonathon has decided to make his imitation of a gun he probably saw in Tarkov. Great content as usual

@samholdsworth3957 3 года назад

Chungus dingus

@jonathanferguson1211 3 года назад

Damn, you've seen through my ruse!

@Amoogus 3 года назад

@@samholdsworth3957 chingus is missing?!?

@julianmhall 2 года назад

That has Stunty [Warhammer Dwarf] written all over it :)

@johndee2990 2 года назад

I read this and was like "What did I do now?" Normally most Jonathan's are Joe-Nathans.. not as many Jona-Thons.. Anyway, this is an expert I'm filing Next to Ian from Forgotten Weapons

@revolverDOOMGUY 3 года назад

This looks like something a warhammer fantasy empier soldier would use in close quarter combat coupled with a shield, especially if someone made a blunderbuss version of it.

@Fastwinstondoom 3 года назад

Fitting comment, in the upcoming Total War Warhammer 3 there'll be (Kislev) troops using something similar to this!

@Lord_of_Dread 3 года назад

So this is in fantasy warhammer too? My first thought was the Custodian bolter/glaive from warhammer 40k

@Erikreaver 3 года назад

Absolutely, and let us face it, I'd really expect this from a dwarf (in fact I am unsure about actual models, but in Age of Reckoning artbooks there's a few pistols for the engineer which have knife or axe blades) or even a cunning orc, ha! And in fact, in the old Warcraft 3 art you can see plenty of weapons like such from the Dwarven Sharpshooter sketches.

@Pooknottin 3 года назад

A Marienburg weapon I'd say.

@Pooknottin 3 года назад

@@Lord_of_Dread The Grey Knights used to be armed exclusively with storm bolter force weapons, before GW had the daft idea of making them into an army choice and put a load of them in tactical armour.

@knightforlorn6731 3 года назад

what I dont understand, considering that there were actually quite a few gun/weapon combos... where the heck are they in movies and games?

@mikurusagawa6897 3 года назад

Rulemakers are lazy I guess

@Vagabond671 3 года назад

Hunt Showdown has a sawed-off break-action single barrel 12 gauge that has a hatchet blade fixed to it.

@noctaqua1925 3 года назад

In one AC Unity DLC you get the guillotine gun. It's more a hand mortar but hey, it's got an axe head (you can use) and it can shoot grenades

@jm3267 3 года назад

All got stuck in the Final Fantasy series I spose?

@sebastianstoltz7740 3 года назад

@@Vagabond671 As a Swede I'll start yelling in Swedish whenever I go for Romero Hatchet kills from now on!

@Trollflayer 3 года назад

As a Swede, I have to say that pronunciation was not too bad actually.

@oscarjosefsson9300 3 года назад

Almost nailed it on the second try!

@jonathanferguson1211 3 года назад

@@oscarjosefsson9300 Thanks guys! And thanks for Ghost, by the way :)

@Hiznogood 3 года назад

@@jonathanferguson1211 Sjöblad is kind a strange surname, well a strange composition, I would say. Sjö means sea or more correctly lake. Blad means leaf. What is a leaf of the sea, it doesn’t make sense. But I guess we have other, strange combinations like, Sjökvist (kvist means twig), Sjögren (green means branch of a tree) etc. There’s other meanings of the word “blad”, like blade (knife blade), so it would then translate to Seablade or Blade of the Sea? Sjöblad isn’t a common surname in Sweden, I can only get 150 hits on that in online phone book, while Sjögren and Sjökvist has more then +9999. Maybe that’s way it sound peculiar?

@bdekw 3 года назад

@@jonathanferguson1211 Passable pronunciation surely. And I had a feeling you were a heavy metal fan-considering all that heavy metal weaponry you handle on a daily basis

@jonathanferguson1211 3 года назад

@@bdekw Absolutely. I draw the line somewhere between Ghost and Behemoth :)

@backrowbrighton 3 года назад

As a boarding weapon it looks like a useful bit of kit. Makes me think of the US Elgin cutlass pistol, a single shot percussion weapon merged with a Bowie type blade. It was issued in limited numbers to the US Navy in the late 1830's to members of the South Seas Exploring Expedition and apparently they did see use. Love to see one of those up close.

@Immopimmo 3 года назад

I'm in love with the shape of this weapon, the axehead in particular. The lines are elegant yet brutal and I feel there's a lot of versatility with this design. You can shoot, cut, hook, stab and spike your opponent any way you fancy.

@rainiernqc 3 года назад

Fascinating piece of history. Looks like something that came out from a video-game

@msgirl-09dom63 3 года назад

Actually, there is a snes game where the first boss uses a weapon like this, the only difference is that in the game it is longer

@foofnoobt876 3 года назад

Agreed

@Skulgar321 3 года назад

@DanielCook Single shot shotgun, but cartridge firing, not flintlock

@jonnyanderson3042 3 года назад

Reminds me of "the huntsman" from enter the gungeon

@Mr_T_Badger 2 года назад

There was a somewhat popular video game from the PS2 era called Dark Watch, a vampire cowboy FPS, that this beauty would fit in quite well, I think.

@yorick6035 3 года назад

I love it, now I have a weapon for my next Battle Smith Artificer in Dungeons&Dragons. Thanks mate!

@Mugdorna 3 года назад

My Battle Cleric of a war god already has one of these!

@pokettoboi 3 года назад

According to a swedish museum site that has a similar weapon this should be a Änterbila m/1703. The flintlock is that of a m/1699 but the "dog" was something used on the m/1688. So somewhat of a hybrid between those? Also the ramrod would probably have been secured by a lid held in place with springtension.

@jonathanferguson1211 3 года назад

Yes, the Swedish army museum calls it an m/1703, which is actually what we had ours catalogued as (in English, based on their identification I think) and I should have used that designation in this video. The m/1688 and m/1699 that they mention (and that the lock on the m/1703 is a hybrid of) are conventional flintlock pistols. Most likely the dog on the axe pistol was retained for extra safety (no longer deemed necessary on the pistol) so that you could hit people whilst loaded :)

@skush9146 3 года назад

Great Video as usual. Jonathan is such a sympathetic man and he hits the perfect spot of not seeming too sober/serious while still being very professional.

@tomwood_116 3 года назад

My girlfriend and I really enjoyed the combination weapons at the museum, particularly the pistol shield and musket-mortar/grenade launcher. I hope to see more videos like this in future!

@connorsproles9239 11 месяцев назад

This is quite possibly the most metal thing I have ever seen!

@VeraTR909 3 года назад

Definitely looks effective, probably the best combination weapon i've seen. Very 'tacticool' ;)

@berner Год назад

The ramrod you're looking for is still in the museum. Check inside the barrel of the Kalthoff repeater. When Gerald worked there he didn't want to set it on the ground so like a genius, he used the Kalthoff's barrel as a temporary place to hold it but forgot about it in the middle of inspecting the firearm.

@TheOgrebane 3 года назад

I would love to see (if it hasn't been done already) a video on the Elgan cutlass pistol, the wheellock mace, and/or possibly the Katar pistol.

@seannichols5390 3 года назад

Impressive bit of kit.

@ghostie7028 5 месяцев назад

The "dog" was used in the Swedish military until the early 19th century. When Sweden imported Brown Bess muskets in 1808 and 1812 some of them were converted to "doglock"

@icyknightmare4592 3 года назад

If that's a smoothbore, I'd imagine it would be rather effective delivering a blast of shot at close range to wound and daze before putting the blade to work.

@TheLazerSword 3 года назад

It most probably is smoothbore, it's more like a flintlock pistol of some sort

@richardmyhan3369 3 года назад

That's so cool. Leave it to the swedes to make something that awesome.

@karneskelot4780 3 года назад

Gimli: "AND my...... Um..... er...... hmmm..."

@shaynecarter-murray3127 3 года назад

This is definitely going into my DnD Eberron game.

@tomwinterfishing9065 4 месяца назад

That back-spike looks good for attacking the enemy’s shins😂

@darphbobo55 3 года назад

That thing looks bad ass

@Chiller01 3 года назад

I’ve heard the axe pike thing deflect POI about 1-2 MOA when attached.

@kevinstreet5709 3 года назад

Thanks Johnathan for another fascinating video

@aardvark5730 2 года назад

The dog was used on swedish muskets and rifles well into the percussion era, with the pattern of 1854 being the last model with said feature.

@MagizardInternet 3 года назад

I was going to say the russian Streltsy had this, but then I remembered they had axes they used for their old muskets. The axes were a sort of tripod for it when they needed to shoot with it.

@F1ghteR41 3 года назад

It's not exactly an urban myth, but modern testing proved this technique to be somewhat uncomfortable. Besides, typical Russian muskets of the day were smaller in calibre than their Western counterparts, being rather like a grenadier fusil, and thus did not necesserily require a rest to fire effectively.

@withknobson 3 года назад

What about a series dedicated to lovingly designed weapons that proved to be hopeless on the battlefield? It would be really educational to learn about ambitious designs with glaring errors. Things like the Cochran turret revolver, Colt 1855 revolver rifle or Chauchat.

@cm4099 3 года назад

Next summer's intern project - search the misc. ramrod collection for the missing unit. With that length it should stand out, maybe?

@MrGregory777 3 года назад

Never heard of an axe gun but it should be used in every battle

@OpCzar 3 года назад

I think I used this in WoW

@Hullabaloo478 2 года назад

Very cool!

@colbunkmust 3 года назад

There was a type of American pistol that featured a large bowie blade underneath the barrel that was adopted in limited capacity by the US Navy. Called the "Elgin cutlass pistol"

@duchessskye4072 3 года назад

My favourite ones have to be the gun spears/gun halberds. Though I have also seen a gun crossbow, with the gun mounted on the underside of the bow. Pretty interesting stuff.

@Tamburahk 3 года назад

it could be actually secured (the ram rod) by that swivel point you mentioned for strap. it would make perfect sense, pistols and axes does not have straps very often... :)

@johandeklerk384 3 года назад

I totally want one of these. Quite fascinating and definitely badass.

@unboxing_legend7708 3 года назад

so to me just looking at it. its basically a variantion and modified flintlock rifle, an early version of a rifle that uses a bayonet type tactic. used for both close and long range but id argue the very early blueprints of a m1 garand with the bayonet addition to it that finally caught on as it proved very useful in the war. im not great with history so bare with me on this but id say it was the early victorian times? at a guess. i would also personally say that its technically the 1st few weapons that had gun modifications to it. a reciever and a stock as a rifle that shoots reduces weight however they ended up messing it up by adding a heavy bayonet to the weapon. probally was used in battle although very unique and rare and id say one of the few weapons that was used in its short life span before getting replaced with only a few made as an experimentation of the flintlock weapon variants.

@StephenYuan 3 года назад

Wow. People actually used that thing? Fascinating

@germ4bass 3 года назад

Do you guys have a gun sword or a crossbow sword love the channel

@oscarjosefsson9300 3 года назад

Do you have any knife and fork flint locks with pearl grips? Saw a couple in a book once.

@ray.shoesmith 2 года назад

Are these available in 9mm for home defence?

@LIONTAMER3D 3 года назад

*that guy*, you KNOW "that guy": the one who shows up to the battle field with a gun axe (what a try-hard)

@cjmurphy7967 2 года назад

I always love gun-axe combinations, I thought they were so cool and super functional. I think they may have been used by the polish cavalry around the 17th century aswell.

@Spiffyscroll 3 года назад

Would love to see you do a top ten of your favorite firearms of history

@icykickflip 3 года назад

Why do I feel like that entire axe head would pop off the first time you hit anything with it

@YeetBomb 3 года назад

The Romero Hatchet from Hunt Showdown

@six2make4 3 года назад

So I got a book, which is basically just called "Våben" (Weapons) and it's in collaboration with you guys, probably some other title originally and translated into Danish but it has a picture of the Axe Carbine and in the book it says it's from Denmark. So I am a bit confused. The book is from around 2008 so it could be a mistake that is later corrected but yeah, I'm a bit confused.

@cephlo1 3 года назад

no way any dansk could possibly think of creating a marvel like this

@six2make4 3 года назад

@@cephlo1 I don't really give a shit about your nationalism I just want to know if my book is accurate.

@cephlo1 3 года назад

@@six2make4 it's not.

@borjesvensson8661 3 года назад

@@six2make4 shure it is exatly the same weapon? Would not be a shock if one copied the other with how mutch we fought each other at the time. I think the danish army tried to copy some swedish equipment and organisation after the losses in the early part of the great nordic war and while the danish navy was generally superior to the swedis navy they could have copied a god idea still (what a shock that norwegian fishermen and danish merchants make better sailors than swedish pesants). There seems to be good documentation of this being a swedish weapon put forward by a swedish naval officer, but were did he got the idea? If the danish navy had a similar weapon thats one possibility. Or those polish axe pistols that a lot of commentors mention.

@six2make4 3 года назад

@@borjesvensson8661 I looked at it a couple of times and it's one of the smaller pictures but yeah, it looked nearly identical, which is what had me confused. It certainly would make sense if they copied each other. It just seem kind of odd not to pick the original to put in the book or talk about in the video or simply have a throwaway line regarding it being inspired/copied should the Danish or Swedish have a more interesting story. The guy in the video is not among the quoted experts but they were said to work (or have worked, it's from 2008) at Royal Armories so I guess it's up in the air until we get a response. Far as I can tell the book does not seem inaccurate with other weapons, even when it comes to more odd places.

@TheFirstCurse1 Год назад

Reminds me of the Guillotine Gun from Assassin's Creed Unity, although that one fired cannon balls.

@darinmullins4770 3 года назад

A cork fit sir ! heeeey 😀

@alexbishop5821 3 года назад

If you wish to cover it ina video if you haven't; a similar weapon is of rifle or mortar caliber displayed in Assassin's Creed Unity along with many possible melee weapons & firearms that may or not be time accurate to the(or a) French revolution that is a center piece of the plot

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation 3 года назад

Now all we need is a gun-hammer 😁

@amensentis 3 года назад

Easiest way for English speakers to say the Ö sound i think is to try to say the "ea" sound from earth or earl, then move your tongue slightly deeper down your throat :)

@MisterOcclusion 3 года назад

There was that French guards rifle that Ian did a piece on which featured a musket with full size sword, if that counts. Otherwise Captain Obvious told me that the rifle/bayonet remains the king of combination weapons. (commenting for the algorithm)

@dark2023-1lovesoni 3 года назад

Sword bayonets were more common on earlier single shot carbines. As repeating rifles got better, bayonet charges became less common, and calvary fell out of favor when replaced by tanks. Longer bayonets were usually paired with shorter rifles to give enough total length to reach up and skewer someone on horseback.

@AshleyBlackwater 2 года назад

Gotta love wrist straps on axes Drop it by mistake and it swings back into you :>

@williamhart4896 3 года назад

As a combo weapon that would be perfect boarding party jobs or defending the household

@MrGrimsmith 3 года назад

I've always loved these things, so much more of a practical answer than trying to fit a pistol in to a sword. We now need a modern version with a lever action or semi auto shotgun in combination with a ballistic shield slotted to proved a steadying point. Coastguard/customs inspectors would be treated with a degree more respect if that was standard loadout when boarding a ship :)

@newhistorian6319 3 года назад

Threaded barrel for a silencer I see

@eblingus 3 года назад

I want one!

@Pre.C_King 2 года назад

Second pronunciation of the surname was a bit more on! And as a Swede growing up in a multilingual home, British English being what was spoken alongside the quite obvious Swedish.. And don't feel bad about the pronunciation," Ö " quite literally has NO equivalent to its pronunciation in any word in the English language as far as I'm aware.. And regarding the "Blad" part, the A, is pronounced more along the lines of "all" as in " All aboard!" it's more of a prolonged " A" coming from the guts so to speak :P, and that's all the time we have for todays Swedish lesson! And glad to see something brought up from our history, where there's actually worth putting some kind of pride as opposed to the current state of the country and the spineless creatines that inhabit it today.. To even think this country once was inhabited by people who were considered among the most feared in the world..

@Erikreaver 3 года назад

Oh my, this is the first video of yours that I am seeing and what a treat, one of my favourite weapon types, as I am quite partial to axes and (shot)guns! I had no idea that this one is actually an issued type! So thank you for covering it and I'm looking forward to seeing more combination weapons. Just a quick question, what is the bore diameter? I know of some polish naval axe-pistols which allegedly were of 14-16mm bore and used with buckshot, which honestly makes sense within the confines of a ship's interior or deck, and the frantic nature of close combat! One day I wish to craft one like that for myself, as I already forge axes quite regularily.

@borjesvensson8661 3 года назад

I think buckshot was quite common in flintlock pistols of the era. When cavalry got rifled pistols in the 19c they apparantly often had one rifled pistol and one smothbore for buckshot

@hikaritsumi2123 3 года назад

Hey I recently saw this on Shad! Now I wonder where has it been used.

@nathanschmidt8436 5 месяцев назад

That thing was 100% effective.

@jotatsu 3 года назад

XVIII century mall ninja gun.

@90lancaster 2 года назад

In before it appears in some from in a Final Fantasy Game or Star Wars (with a vibro-blade)

@harryflashman3141 3 года назад

I want one

@mikegould6590 3 года назад

I first saw these weapons on (apologies) Deadliest Warrior. It seems to be one of the few successful combination weapons.

@devinrobinson1270 3 года назад

Yup, this is going into the D&D campaign

@tbladesmith 3 года назад

This is what happens when Vikings realize that guns work

@Zalzany 3 года назад

Nah what happens when the boarding axe guy in your navy keeps bitching he needs a pistol he can fire while still using his axe, and having oen hand free to climb the ship still...

@DiscoManSam 3 года назад

Reminds me of the Executioner Gun from Assassin's Creed Unity.

@killerkraut9179 3 года назад

After my Knowledge the polish winged hussars used Axe Pistols as well. And i have heard from a Us Cutlass pistol used by the us Navy

@Pelle-Peanut-bRain-World 3 года назад

I saw something like that in assassin's creed unity but it was a blunderbus with an axe on it though the game is in a Sim of france not sweden so i don't know if it should be in france(i Hope i got the weapon name right)

@carsonm7292 3 года назад

This truly is incredibly Swedish.

@samuelfrank4787 2 года назад

Skalagrim would be proud.

@DoeJam13 3 года назад

Does the balance make this work well as an axe? The lock work looks like it might put the center of mass further from the axe head.

@Zalzany 3 года назад

Its main role as axe is to cut rope, not armor, not wood. No one had armor on them, and you didn't use this to cut down a door, you used it to cut anti boarding nets

@ashardalondragnipurake 2 года назад

kindof sad melee is practically not a thing anymore with modern tech we could probably make some really cool semi functional combined weapons

@johnhoover5431 3 года назад

So I guess I'm not the only one with a functionality fettish...

@greenjack1959l Год назад

It cries out to murder some pumpkins.

@Verne105 3 года назад

ITS ABOUT TIME. THE AXE-GUN IS GREAT!!!

@kakokapolei123 3 года назад

If anyone's played Darkwatch on the PS2, there's a shotgun that's similar to this

@raikbarczynski6582 2 года назад

well ... thats a really early prototype of a guardian spear of the Adeptus Custodea you got there in your collection :)

@akumaking1 2 года назад

Or what Kislev uses in Total Warhammer 3

@raikbarczynski6582 2 года назад

@@akumaking1 if you talk about the armored kossars they use seperate pistols and axes

@hamm6035 3 года назад

I think weapon is an apt description. Looks like a pistol bolted to an axe.

@Advythe 3 года назад

Gunblades from warframe

@wehraboohunterssvu316 3 года назад

"this is in fact a flintlock..." [glances at barrel and then at ATF agent standing off camera with a tape measure] "...pistol"

@cymond 3 года назад

I know it's a joke, but fun fact: black powder muzzleloaders are not "firearms" and therefore exempt from most federal gun control. You can totally have a flintlock SBR without a tax stamp.

@borjesvensson8661 3 года назад

@@cymond Witch is absurd legal speech as a flintlock is an arm that relies on fire to work, a firearm. Exempt from firearms regulation would have been a better wording perhaps.

@kahel5820 3 года назад

This but Martini-Henry🤩 instead of shitty musket. My ultimate weapon of "I'm trolling the fu*k out of you"

@daedalus_1994 3 года назад

All I see is Romero 77 Hatchet...if you know, you know.

@420alphaomega 3 года назад

How effective were these? Seems like usually you get the worst of both worlds with the combination weapons

@huntermad5668 3 года назад

Gun-axe was quite effective as the gun part didn't compromise the axe function but add to the lethality. After you pulled the trigger, you still had perfectly good fighting axe The design had been also used by polish hussar for a long time so it assuredly proved its worth in battle on land and sea

@t1hero 3 года назад

You probably pronounces the u in murder pretty close to the swedish pronunciation of ö in Sjöblad.

@DBears1582 3 года назад

the Swiss really loved their combination weapons arent they?

@borjesvensson8661 3 года назад

Ahem! Were Swedes not Swiss. We really like our axes i would let you know. How else would we get rid of all that flat pack furniture?

@notmuselk6690 3 года назад

Looks like rwby

@BrokenNoah 3 года назад

Called a guillotine gun in the AC Unity DLC Dead Kings

@digitaal_boog 3 года назад

A bayonet is a knife or spike attached to a firearm. This is a firearm attached to the blade

@gergoszabo7168 3 года назад

Warframe players belike: "Woah i seen this before"

@matiasdelafuente3106 3 года назад

Yup xD We need Jonathan to take a look at some of warframes guns. I'd definetly like to know what he thinks of the "Space Chauchat" (the soma) xD

@sphenodon2016 2 года назад

it's nice to see that, even hundreds of years ago, people were making weapons that were perfect for a zombie apocalypse, and useless in conventional combat

@krucialFPS 2 года назад

The bayonets older brother

@patrikhjorth3291 3 года назад

Thank you for this interesting video! The "ö" in "Sjöblad" is pronounced a lot like the "i" in "girl". Other than that, you did pretty well with our quirky scandinavian language.

@stvafel1172 3 года назад

And the "Sj" is pronounced like the "ch" in "loch" if you're a Scotsman, or "ach" if you're a German. "blad" is simply pronounced like American "blood". So to string it all together. 1. "ch" in "loch"/"ach" 2. "i" in girl 3. "blood", as if you were american

@lgiorgio71 3 года назад

Awesome piece, but sad to see that it´s not complet. I wish I could find one or even a reproduction. If anyone knows if there are any repro combinationweapons to buy please let me know.