@@sdh643fn weirdo scumbags can get away with bossing around teenagers desperate to make the league and give 200% even if it isn't in their best interest. When you start coaching grown men or generational talents who are already in the league, still treating them like kids? That's when being a weirdo scumbag falls apart. Like just imagine, you're at Scumbag College and have a good chance at making the NFL and getting the payday you've worked for basically since you could walk. Your coach is an abusive, horrible asshole who isn't even that good. Despite that you know if you do anything but give your all you'll lose that opportunity you've been working towards all those years. Then, after you've been drafted and achieved those dreams and played a couple years a coach comes in and still acts like he's the undisputed boss and he's surrounded by kids who must abide by every word he says or risk losing their shot at the NFL. It isn't gonna go well. I know if I'm a vet on the Jags I'm telling ol Urban to eat my ass it he thinks he's gonna treat me like a freshman in college
You can't even talk to college kids disrespectfully in this era. Transfer portal allows them 1 free move without losing eligibility. That's why Dabo better learn fast to cut the arrogant asshole schtick.
When you can threaten a kid's scholarship status, they will do anything for you. When you're dealing with adults in the NFL with agents, lawyers, and PR, you can't get by with the same stuff. What scares me is how bad he was with those kids, things that we never saw because no kid wanted to be the one to rat out the coach. The thing all college coaches have to learn is they ain't dealing with kids anymore. Either adapt to that fact, or like in urban's case, maybe get a video made about you about how you're the worst coach in league history. Was he the worst? He's definitely bottom 10, and I can't think of any of the bad coaches that were this bad.
Yes!!! This comment is absolutely brilliant. Coaches are gods in college towns, in the pros, they’re the 10-20th highest paid person in the complex and expendable
Definitely. College players are faced with the dilemma, “If I say something, I may lose my scholarship. If I lose my scholarship, I can’t afford college.” I lived it for 4 years and it is extremely frustrating.
@@AB-mz1xm the ncaa is rightfully under investigations due to this, coaches should be alot more grounded ...i can understand being stern and stoic but yelling and berating players at the college level is sadistic ....we see this concept of coaching has failed in the last 20 years on the nfl level so why does the media keep trying to overhype guys like meyer and gruden?
UM was a scumbag at OSU, but was the poster child of "hey, you win games, so we don't care what happens behind closed doors". Nice to see the light finally shined on him on a national stage.
@@RequiemForABuckeye Umm why has to be rude when saying that? I don't know you are an Ohio State fan or not but you didn't have to call this person a "dipshit"
@@keyboardwarrior5612 why you gotta be an asshole to talk to someone? Man’s stated a comment and the other dude went off like a jackass. Ain’t ya mammas teach y’all better?
@@winstonchristopher3464 it’s a free country if he wanna be a douche bag that’s on him I’m js people overly sensitive nowadays on just about everything it’s comical to me
Urban Meyer is the classic case of no accountability when things go wrong. It's always somebody else's fault but when things are good (college football years) he takes most of the credit for that. But college football and the NFL are 2 totally different playing fields... 🏈💯
How did the Jaguars manage to even win 2 games under Urban Meyer? Bill Peterson (Houston) and Clive Rush (Boston) were regarded as bad head coaches, but the anecdotes about them are more amusing than disturbing. You can find videos about them elsewhere on RU-vid.
Good to see how everything came crashing down for Urban, never cared for the man and anyone with a shred a humility and respect for the people around them would man up, take responsibility, and lead the team with an open mind. Urban isn’t a man, biggest coward and disgrace in the NFL in recent years.
As a Michigan fan I have absolutely no love for UM, but I don't think you can really hold the Tebow thing against him. That was a smart business decision. He went straight to the top of the jersey sales. They were always going to cut him and they did so without spending a dime. Like it's literally the one good thing UM did.
Ehh. Might be smart business wise, but you could have brought in a real TE and actually learned something. Instead, every second coaching him was a waste of time.
The whole Urban Meyer coaching fiasco is a good window into the dysfunctional nature of the Jaguars. No sensible business owner takes a rookie coach and places them in the toughest spot on the coaching staff. What did the Jags expect to happen? Very few NFL head coaches jumped right to the head coaching position. It takes years to work up to that level.
To be fair everybody thought urban meters to the jags was a good idea based on his college resume, I don’t think anybody expected the 3 time national championship winner would be such an arse lmao
@@kima3555 Everybody didn't think it was a good idea. Some thought it was a good idea. None of the people I had talks with about this hire thought Meyer would last long. I live in Jacksonville.
Here's what people don't understand, to be a great college coach, you need to be a great RECRUITER. To be a great NFL coach you need to be smart. That's why even the great Nick Saban was ass in the NFL, look at Bama's actual play calling, it's just bully ball with better horses, too much parity in the NFL for that
Very well put. Smart. It's true. As did Meyer, Saban gets the best recruits. Better even than OSU most years. The SEC is mostly balls. If he played a schedule of comparable teams, they wouldn't be as successful. Just as OSU wouldnt be. The pros is a different animal. What was the movie? On any Given Sunday? On any Given Sunday, any team.csn beat another. In college, not so.much
@@sdc6447 Alabama has 6 National Titles in 12 years and since 2014 they have played 2 teams at the end to win the NC. Every time they win the NC, they have to play at least 1 non SEC , supposed to be top 4 team. Saban went 65-63 in the NFL from 88-2005. Saban was not a great coach but he was at least an OK coach. Meyers was a very bad coach, some might say the worst in history. Saban has definitely figured out how to get his College teams to win a lot and win many Championships. Saban is the GOAT of College Football. Saban seems to inspire the best from his players, Meyers had to threaten to get it out of his.
@@batsonelectronics it's still not the same as the college. Where if your supposed to win, usually you do. I mean they're can be upsets, but it's just different. Yes, he's probably the best college coach of all time. Or close to it, but even be sucked in the pros. Some guys are made for the pros. Some not. Meyer may be an ass, but he's a great college coach in his own right. Like him or hate him. A select few get multiple National championships.
@@sdc6447 SABAN went 65-63 in the NFL. That is not great but it also isn't sucky. He was average and that was not good enough and they fired him. He lasted 8 years as a Pro coach at least, Meyers didn't last 1 year.
@@sdc6447 Alabama plays in the conference that has won 12 out of the last 16 national championships. Alabama plays in the conference that has produced the most NFL draft picks for 15 years in a row.
Can you do a video of how Bill O’Brien literally ruined/setback the Houston Texans by years as a team. His trades and picks in the drafts the 3 years before he left ruined the franchise. Bill O’Brien one of the worst head coaches who in his last year traded 3 superstars for basically nothing in return.
thats always been the problem with Ohio State. Their practices are so brutal, your starting QB is just the toughest guy still standing, but he's not your best athlete. They should try the red shirt in practice for their QB's sometime.
@@al6467 BOB's biggest mistakes came from being a GM, not a coach. Though I do agree that BOB was a terrible coach as well, he isn't on the same level of trash as Urban is as a coach.
People don't get it ... Tebow, Leroy Butler, Henry signing with the Jags would lead to INSANE sales simply because Jacksonville loves them. Signing Tebow for the camp roster to make jersey sales possible was smart. Letting him play 1 game to help people know why he couldn't keep playing helped end the discussion.
Lol nonsense He signed Tebow to try to get him time as a vested veteran, not no damn jersey sales. He destroyed his credibility with that and the strength coach hiring. Lol you think this makes any kind of logic is nuts as an organization. Jersey sales…
It’s a toss up between him and bobby petrino. I’d have to go with Meyer. Petrino had things happen completely out of his control (Vick with the dog fighting) that sabotaged the season.
This kind of stuff unfortunately works when you have impressionable college kids who have no choice but to submit to whatever the coach says to keep their careers alive. Not shocking how he didn't get away with this when speaking to grown men worth more than him
Tebow also has great character and a good work ethic, which is why even though not succeeding so much in the NFL, he’s likely to find success elsewhere in the sports world. Can’t say the same for Urban…
@@jackwilson5152 But Jimmy didn't have a new scandal every other week. Urban was constantly stepping on his own d*ck and losing credibility. Jimmy worked as hard as anyone in the building and earned respect. Similar records the first year, totally different vibe.
I'm from Jax and I can tell you he was really well respected here because of the Gators. Now? Smgdh I called this. I knew he'd have 1 season but never thought he wouldn't finish the season. Tired of losing here. Kahn is more concerned with the ship yards project he couldn't care less about the jags and definitely doesn't understand football.
As a Clemson fan, I loved that Trevor got to play with Travis and I loved the pick. As a football fan it was an incredibly stupid pick that could have caused James Robinson to ask for a trade
Let's give credit where credit is due, Tim Tebow was never considered one of the worst quarterbacks in NFL history. He WAS considered a quarterback that didn't reach his full potential, and for some reason (I guess because he always prayed?), he was always surrounded by a media circus that was scrutinizing everything he did, and a lot of teams just didn't want to take that on. But he won at least one playoff game. There have been dozens of starting quarterbacks who cannot say the same thing. Hell, up until this year, Matthew Stafford couldn't even say that. Not saying that makes him the greatest, but I think it certainly means he wasn't "one of the worst NFL QBs ever." More like very slightly above-average.
Can't believe we're having this argument again lol. Tim Tebow was a very below average QB my man. Dude was straight ass for three and a half quarters but magically turned good in the 4th. And even then it was more dumb luck than actual talent lol .
I mean DT won the playoff game off an amazing run after the catch, it was a bad throw that he won the game off of. Tebow just wasn't a good thrower of the football and struggled to read defenses, he was well below average otherwise he'd have easily found a team
@@Jrock420blam Tebow was great that game. You can complain about the game after. But Tebow was most definitely by far the biggest reason why they won that game. You also need to understand what blackballed means. Tebow was against the nfl narrative. He was having a huge Christian influence on the young. National felons league doesn't allow that.
@@jackwilson5152 Tebow threw at a 45% clip in that playoff game, the Steelers were only it in because Tebow played so poorly. The team went from .500 having to carry bad QBs for years even before Tebow stunk it up into a superbowl contender record breaking offense the second they got a good QB. DT won that game, he was 50% of the teams total yards and over 70% of Tebow's production and won the game with an amazing run after catch You seem to fail to understand what blackballing means, Tebow was the epitome of the NFL as far as that goes. The league almost entirely vocally Christian, from Kurt Warner to Reggie "reverend" White. Every player thanks god for their awards and for their play and opportunity, so much so many teams even have a chaplain on staff. He wouldn't be blackballed for being the same as 99% of the league or else the entire league would be blackballed. He just didn't have the ability to be an NFL level QB and refused to try any other positions. NFL rosters don't have room for players who don't put the team first. He was a great hype man and lockeroom presence but his play and being too selfish to try something new didn't justify a roster spot.
I won't be surprised if the Jags get a good coach and become the next Bengals. I saw a lot of promise in Lawrence in that Bengals game. It's time sensitive, one or two seasons and this window is over for a while, but I think a good coach is all the jags need. Obviously they need talent at other positions to be perfect but I feel like that's their "big need".
Some of the "credit" has to go to Shad "Got It Right" Khan. He needs to recognize he's just a NFL owner and not a GM or coach. He chose Meyer because he thought that hiring a former Gators coach would put butts in seats at the 'Bank and dollars in his pocket. Shad should just pay the bills, hire decent staff for their skills and let them handle winning games. That'll earn some revenue faster than trying to interfere his way out of the embarrassment of his tenure as Jags owner.
I don't think that I have ever seen a coach treat his players and staff this bad. Urban Meyer thought this was gonna be easy and could treat the players like he could scholarship athletes. Its a big difference that these guys are playing the game for money as opposed to a scholarship. He couldn't get away with what he could in college and he's probably already setting up fro a return to college ball.
in college, you can threat a 18-20 years old kids with no other option. in NFL, they are an adult. You can't threat to release them, they always have other options available.
the epitome of a college coach failing to be a professional. Almost impossible to transition from an environment where they're practically dictators / cult leaders to a place where they're just an employee that is open to just as much criticism as anyone else. They can't control how their players eat, sleep, and exercise anymore, but they carry themselves with the same weight and ego as if they could. No wonder most of them go back to their privileged little bubbles where they're treated like gods.
honestly didn't know he kicked one of the players until now. that's shocking. and to say he can do it whenever he wanted to is even worse. on paper his hire was a good one. a proven winner tasked with taking a losing team out of that losing culture and making it a winning team. in hindsight I wonder if the owner regrets hiring Meyer
Tebow isn't considered one of the worst Qbs ever. There were so many worse than him. I can rattle off at least 20 Tebow was far better than. I think it's overblown how "bad" he was because he is so popular and polarizing
I was convinced no coach would be hated more than Matt Patricia was hated by the Lions. Took only a few months following his firing for Urban to take that crown by force XD
Tebow is considered one of the worst QBs in NFL history? I don't know if I've ever heard anyone say that. Guy had a winning record and a positive TD/INT ratio. Horrible completion percentage, but far from "one of the worst QB in NFL history"... the fuck
Yeah, what Doug’s accomplished in just one season on the field and the rapport he has already built with many of the exact same players - makes Urban look even worse… and definitely on into “worst all time” territory.
He coached one partial season and still had more wins than Hue Jackson had in two full seasons. Hue Jackson is and will always be the worst coach in NFL history.
Lol Meyer got professionally destroyed and will never work in the NFL again, unlike Hue. Hire a racist coach, bring in Tebow, left his team to ride back home, etc. no player in the nfl would agree with you. Meyer couldn’t make an entire season with those two wins that impressed no one but you.
After knowing all this im actually starting to like the jags, the players deserve better. and poor Trevor he's so talented but can't show his skills on the field because of some arrogant coach.
When i saw the title of this vid, my immediate reaction was "no bobby petrino was worse." After watching this video, i can confidently say that i was wrong.
I also feel like urban was given way to much power too soon. He should've came into the league as an offensive coordinator or something like special teams coach
Yes….team loses and he stays behind to spend time with grandkids and caught grinding a woman in her twenties at his sports bar. The owner should have fired him once that video came out. How could the players take the coach seriously after that incident.
He might’ve been a worse coach on game day but he was a much better man. He said that if he went 1-15 again he’d swim in the Ohio river, and when he went 0-16 he delivered on his promise. He was a good man. Not a good coach, but a good man.
Keep in mind the Jags were already the worse team in the NFL before Meyer arrived, which is why they had the #1 overall pick. Meyer only coached the Jags for 3/4 a season in which he won 2 games, which automatically makes him a better coach than say Hugh Jackson who lost 15 games in consecutive seasons, including going 0-16. Meyer's NFL legacy was destroyed by a series of what I would call "Petty Controversies" including many unsubstantiated and unproven allegations that were disseminated as though they were "Facts" by the media. Why dominant coaches leave a cushy college coaching job with built-in recruiting for a few humiliating years in the NFL is something I'll never truly understand.
He didn't really get a chance, show me a successful first year coach with a rookie QB and no defense, coaches need time, the problem is the goofy owner the Jags are stuck with, they'll always suck
Been saying it for months now. This was an obvious cash out by Urban. He didn’t even try and was just waiting to get fired and paid. Every move was planned and executed to perfection to get himself a nice little check to end his coaching career and ride off into the sunset
Definitely a strong candidate for the worst ever. Especially with the hindsight of the immediate improvement in the team after hiring a competent replacement, Doug Pederson. Very similar to the improvement of the Falcons in 2008, the season after Bobby Petrino left.