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PLAJs Luke Grant tells you the truth about Zach Wilson vs the Giants
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@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
How would you evaluate Zach’s performance against the Giants?
@cooperbegnoche5117
@cooperbegnoche5117 6 месяцев назад
I thought he played fine. So many blind Jets fans you wonder how they get anything done in NYC.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
@@cooperbegnoche5117true 😂😂😂
@TheAlex2145
@TheAlex2145 6 месяцев назад
Not as good as mine
@giovannigarcia8876
@giovannigarcia8876 6 месяцев назад
Please stop attacking Jets fans and other Jets players to praise the Stormin Mormon. Thank you.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
@@giovannigarcia8876attacking?? Hahaha Showing people that guys that yell on Twitter know little about the game. Sorry if you can’t handle that
@evancovello1932
@evancovello1932 6 месяцев назад
The offensive line is a real problem. No blame. When your starters are hurt and the depth is hurt, what can you do? Great opp for young guys to step up.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Huge issue. Need next man up for sure
@therunningproject1399
@therunningproject1399 6 месяцев назад
How is it bad every year though?
@LetsBeHonestImAPrat
@LetsBeHonestImAPrat 6 месяцев назад
@@therunningproject1399cause we are cursed lol
@dirkpalmer1067
@dirkpalmer1067 6 месяцев назад
Ouch! Zach was not only pressured, but hit on 52% of passing plays? It's remarkable he's doing as well as he is, although agree he needs to throw the ball away more (he's still learning). Just think how much better the O will be once OL is healthy.
@coreyhansen9711
@coreyhansen9711 6 месяцев назад
@@LetsBeHonestImAPrat It's because playing at MetLife is playing on some fuzzy concrete turf claiming ligaments everywhere
@DIYAroundTheHome
@DIYAroundTheHome 6 месяцев назад
Not only was the offensive line horrendous at pass blocking, they were awful at run blocking. Zach led the game with 25 yards rushing. That's simply unacceptable.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Started with 18 yards on 9 attempts. Horrendous
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 6 месяцев назад
Agree. Why aren't they running behind Becton more. He's a monster. I know he hasn't played in 2 years and is rusty but the dude is getting better every week and is still gonna pancake guys.
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 6 месяцев назад
Also the play calling is atrocious. They never throw the ball over the top of the defense with go routes which even if they don't connect at least will keep the defense honest and loosen up the interior. I really thought Hackett was gonna be better than this.
@AnPham-yx3hs
@AnPham-yx3hs 6 месяцев назад
@@gfriedman99 BEcton basically let kayvon run free. he LOOKED like he had potential, but he's pretty much part of the o line prob now
@billyblanko8504
@billyblanko8504 6 месяцев назад
@@AnPham-yx3hsdude had one bad game and now he’s part of the problem?
@Sharp_Instincts
@Sharp_Instincts 6 месяцев назад
If Aaron Rodgers was healthy and started that game against the Giants, and had Tom Brady as QB2 and Zach at QB3, then Zach would have still won the game in the 4th qrtr and OT as both Aaron and Brady would have been annihilated by Dexter Lawrence and Kayvon and been getting X-Rays or been in concussion protocol by the 3rd quarter. We never slowed down either one of them. Zach showed amazing escapability, and also the toughness to take a hit to make a play. The OT pass interference on the "underthrown" ball occurred because Zach was hit as he was throwing the ball. The ball he grounded in the dirt to Breece, was a bad throw but that was an obvious wet ball issue, and Breece may have dropped it anyway if it was on target. Zach has had 3 games at "Wet" Life stadium that have had constant rain ( Pats, Eagles, Giants ), but on a dry field against the Chiefs he outplayed Mahomes. If we had a dome stadium his stats would be great. Aaron throws his touch passes softer than other QBs due to his great anticipation, so his ball is easier to catch, and it looks like Randall Cobb and Lazard can only catch softly thrown balls and have been living off of Aaron's unique precision, unless their repetitive drops with the Jets are due to the wet conditions. Zach can develop that precision as he has the brain to think quick enough, he just needs more time to evolve. Luckily for Zach, the Jets OL is providing him with the worst protection in the league, so he is going through the crucible of war and if he survives, we will have a diamond in the rough come playoff time.
@ladistar
@ladistar 6 месяцев назад
You’re a 1diot, it’s far from the worst protection in the league, it’s easily top 15. Learn the game of football you dope.
@mgtow-balance3409
@mgtow-balance3409 6 месяцев назад
i was watching this game with my brother. we were talking football and i told him that in every football game i've watched this year, there were plays run WITHOUT blocking the defense's best player. and guess what? 90% of the time that player made the play. i mean really, how in the world do OC's make such a stupid mistake?
@hermanc9000
@hermanc9000 6 месяцев назад
Agree
@RealisticJetsFan
@RealisticJetsFan 6 месяцев назад
Do you actually watch the games? Do you hear the commentary? ZW holds the ball too long! He locks in on one WR and that’s it. He can’t process information quickly and can’t look off defenders. The game is simply too fast for him. Rodgers accesses information so quickly he knows his reads before the play even starts. It’s night and day!!!
@Sharp_Instincts
@Sharp_Instincts 6 месяцев назад
@@RealisticJetsFan Listening to the commentary of Charles Davis, Tiki B, or Matt Ryan just gives you their opinion and these guys just mail it in, especially Davis (an alltime know nothing). You need to judge the plays yourself and not be swayed by the commentary unless it comes from an objective QB analyst who prepares before the weekend, like Romo or Aikman or Brady when he stops laughing at the Belichick demise. The current sorry state of the Jets OL does not coordinate at all with road crowd noise, and the recent home games in NJ have had steady rain. So Zach hasn't had conditions that QBs get on the West Coast or in domes. I agree he stares down a receiver on occasion and misses a TE, but we are not in the huddle, Garrett may tell him on certain routes that I have this guy set up so look my way. And all QBs miss seeing open receivers every game. I like Zach and think he is a budding superstar and a SB MVP and that sways my opinion, you don't like him and think he is a bust and that sways you the other way. So we both need to see the season play out more, I would like to see a game with no dropped passes and see what happens in that game.
@jonathanrichter4256
@jonathanrichter4256 6 месяцев назад
Everyone. myself included, thought we were just a QB away from being great. The truth is we were a QB, a WR, and an OL away. And possibly still an OC away. I think Zach is playing fine. The play-calling sucks, the O line, given its health, is a disaster, and outside of GW there aren't any other targets that consistently get open for Zach. Add in the awful weather on Sunday and it's amazing he can complete any throws. Looking forward to a bounce back vs the Chargers.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yep, need some huge improvements from the WR and OL this week
@ladistar
@ladistar 6 месяцев назад
You’re a hater
@tmozzz
@tmozzz 6 месяцев назад
We lost Corey Davis , and mecole was traded . And Our oline was actually really good until injuries plagued the jets. Zach is still statistically the worst qb in the league , and you can’t say every other team just has better offensive weapons. Zach has been fine , In Zach standards . In nfl standards , he’s playing sub par . I still see improvement which is good to see
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime 6 месяцев назад
@@tmozzz Outside the defense, the team simply isn’t good. And the coaching staff including Saleh, is still learning on Zach’s time. So the issues go way beyond ZW’s stats in the league. It’s been a team effort as opposed to the developing QB being just bad.
@tmozzz
@tmozzz 6 месяцев назад
@@TheHighlanderprime let’s see , we have becton , avt , Garrett Wilson, breece hall, our other 3 solid rbs , Conklin , ruckert and then guys like Tomlinson , tippman , McGovern . How can you say that’s bad ? There’s blame to go on Nathaniel Hackett , but to say the offense is bad is untrue
@tacon4889
@tacon4889 6 месяцев назад
Zach is on the way to being a quality starting quarterback. The past couple of weeks have shown great growth. And despite all the haters his arm talent is undeniable.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
🤝🏼🤝🏼
@chucklamantia3067
@chucklamantia3067 6 месяцев назад
F*** Yeah He Is An ALL PRO We Are Watching A FUTURE HALL OF FAMER
@kylecornett5222
@kylecornett5222 6 месяцев назад
​@chucklamantia3067 what's it like living woth down's
@chucklamantia3067
@chucklamantia3067 6 месяцев назад
@@kylecornett5222 please tell me you are smart enough to get sarcasm
@richboyprado
@richboyprado 6 месяцев назад
lol I hate you ppl “I know breece hall is incredible, but how about Zach Wilson - that’s a 45 degree angle” lmaoooooo kangaroo jack is praising this former second overall pick on 8 good plays. Literally breece making it happen
@reysteffani9619
@reysteffani9619 6 месяцев назад
Luke, the fan base can not put this horrendous last game all on Zach. First and foremost, the O- line was atrocious. The Receivers weren't getting separation, and when they did, we had dropped passes. To many damn penalties, Some more stupid than others. We had no Run game. And to top everything else off, the weather was crazy. Let's not cover the Sun with one finger. Zach needs to improve more. And let's not forget Hackett and his play calling. My God, we're in week nine and Hack is still having a hard time scheming guys open. What I did love most was the two minute drill that was ran. If we want to make the playoffs, we need to clean up a whole lot of crap. Like always, thank you for the break down Mate.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Spot on as always Rey
@gene617
@gene617 6 месяцев назад
How you don't have more subs is beyond me. Love your work.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks so much 💚💚
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 6 месяцев назад
This guy legit should have 500K subs. The talent is there. I normally don't sub to sports channels but smashed the sub button before the video was half way done.
@oliverschapiro
@oliverschapiro 6 месяцев назад
Objective analysis. Shocking that people still question the film when it’s literally a factual display of what happened 😂😂. People think Boyle or Andy dalton would be better? Thank you, Luke for actually doing the work and not being lazy with analysis like so many fans and analysts
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
That’s what killed me 😂 what else were they wanting? Crazy. Zach has done more than enough for us to be 4-0 the last month. And we’re 3-1 in reality
@oliverschapiro4121
@oliverschapiro4121 6 месяцев назад
Completely agree. Although, I think tonight despite a solid Chargers defense, I would expect us to play very well with plenty of time to prepare. Even if Zach plays fine, I will be disappointed with 13 points and I think there is a lot of pressure tonight on offense to break out@@PlayLikeAJet
@lukegrant3201
@lukegrant3201 6 месяцев назад
I can already hear the comments. Yes, you might think 7/10 is a bit much. But when you’re pressured on 52% of snaps and come up with 9 BIG throws that I highlighted, I think it’s not far off. Watch the whole thing if you can
@vegassquire
@vegassquire 6 месяцев назад
Some people base their whole understanding and intelligence around a narrative and no matter what the facts are they cannot disbelieve their narrative. That said, it’s entertaining listening to jet RU-vidrs who think they know what they don’t know. Your video is spot on 100%. You forgot to mention Jets couldn’t run the ball that is why I go 8/10.
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 6 месяцев назад
Not only is Zach handicapped by the O-line and dropped passes but the play calling is atrocious. The only bomb Hackett called the entire year was the hail mary in the Pats game. That was a 60 yard throw. The kid has a cannon but they never utilize it.
@k1mac637
@k1mac637 6 месяцев назад
I live for these videos every week. You do such a great job and I see the same things you’re seeing so I’m glad I’m not crazy. The amount of pressures he dealt with and still was able to perform. It’s not perfect but I wouldn’t replace him with anyone but Rodgers right now. If he keeps this team alive he’s done his job this season
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
I really appreciate that. Yep, Zach has fought his butt off. Keep winning
@Damon-ik1kh
@Damon-ik1kh 6 месяцев назад
He reassures me and gives me hope lol i kind like zach and would be great if he blows up
@jeffow7548
@jeffow7548 6 месяцев назад
it frustrates me when these football talk show guys talk about how “Zach went back in time to last year zach again” it amazes me that people can watch the game their whole lives and still not understand what they are watching, #2 is ballin
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Big improvements even on “bad” days
@piccol79
@piccol79 6 месяцев назад
Am I the only one who nearly shat myself when Breece's foot hit the end zone at that funky angle? Just run in dude
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
😂😂
@rchaser4
@rchaser4 6 месяцев назад
Coaches should not put up with this stuff when they run in the end zone untouched. Just walk in the end zone. No dives, no flips, no abnormal footwork or premature stops.
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 6 месяцев назад
Dude, I cringe every time I see it. Saleh should start fining guys for undisciplined crap like this.
@your_fathershome
@your_fathershome 6 месяцев назад
At 6:52 when i saw that play, i thought Zach did a magic trick. The camera was on him and i saw him switch hands and ask my boy (Giants fan) where's the ball? It was beyond smooth.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
The ball handling was SWEET!
@your_fathershome
@your_fathershome 6 месяцев назад
@@PlayLikeAJet Very!!!
@profssrchaos19
@profssrchaos19 6 месяцев назад
good god it's good to finally find another voice of reason, I truly believe zach is progressing
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yep, glad you see it
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 6 месяцев назад
First time viewer here and I'm very impressed mate. Best breakdowns I have seen anywhere. Been a Jets fan for 54 years. You earned a sub. Especially liked the play action slight-of-hand breakdown. Brilliant find and yes - I have seen Rodgers do that on a few occasions. The final analysis of this team is that they will go as far as the O-line takes them - that's the weakest link in the fence. Thanks again!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the kind words. Appreciate you watching!
@tonyv5253
@tonyv5253 6 месяцев назад
I caught that play action live when watching. He did similar in one of the previous games..BOTH times I had same reaction,.THANK YOU Rodgers...and CLEAR evidence (not just hope) there is mentorship happening Ps- +1 sub, love the angles and breakdown! Something rarely offered let alone on a consistent basis, thank you for the time and effort
@jdoc4382
@jdoc4382 6 месяцев назад
Continues to grow ! great throws His confidence is growing 😎🙌😎 Lazard needs to go to the ball machine……
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Hit the jugs haha
@GA-250RX
@GA-250RX 6 месяцев назад
Exactly!! Thanks brother for clearing it up for the “jets fans”!! Us real JETS fans love this team and can see the growth with ZW and accept the errors feom the terrible Oline. We celebrate the W though!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Appreciate you watching. Go Jets
@144Donn
@144Donn 6 месяцев назад
Yes the ball handling fake was amazing ,I noticed it during the game..what a trick move! Beautifully done! As was your review! Great job and very positive! Amazing that an Aussie (AM I right?) gives us the best, most detailed and nuanced game review?
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
It was so nice 🔥🔥
@jeffotisbrown
@jeffotisbrown 6 месяцев назад
Great breakdown Luke! The kid is progressing for sure. Corey Davis was a tough loss this season and of course the horrible luck on the O line. If they can stabilize the line and continue to grow as an offense this team will be in the mix for a playoff spot with its biggest star only taking four snaps all season. Keep the faith and lets go Jets!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yeah Davis was rough because it messed up the rest of the WR room too. Let’s go Jets 🤝🏼
@nickbivona24
@nickbivona24 6 месяцев назад
Been watching your breakdowns over the last month, I learn something new each video. Appreciate your work!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for tuning in Nick
@Inthew893
@Inthew893 6 месяцев назад
Great objective analysis as always, along with necessary context. You’ve proved once again that an Aussie can have a better understanding of the NFL than many American football fans.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Haha appreciate you watching 🤝🏼
@BC-pu2uq
@BC-pu2uq 6 месяцев назад
Luke does a great job as he shows all aspects of the performance. Excellent evaluation!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks brother 🤝🏼🤝🏼
@Summitclym
@Summitclym 6 месяцев назад
The entire O needs work in this order: 1) Play calling 2) O-line! 3) Receivers 4) QB.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
I second that
@johncollorafi257
@johncollorafi257 6 месяцев назад
Hi Giants, we're passing on third down-- look at the empty set. Before we even get into the pros and cons with Zach, we have to determine who's responsible for the abnormal play calling.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
On 3rd and 1 even
@piccol79
@piccol79 6 месяцев назад
​@@PlayLikeAJetI damn near yakked
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 6 месяцев назад
Bingo.
@albertjimenez7896
@albertjimenez7896 6 месяцев назад
The fact that we don't run a more rapid offensive with Z irritates me, as does the lack of design runs for him, but what really irritates me is the the lack of deep throws over the top. In conclusion, the offensive coordinator does not want to do anything that the quarterback excels at. LOL
@johnolsen394
@johnolsen394 6 месяцев назад
Great breakdown . Really gives me a new perspective on zack.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Appreciate that
@zacdavis8234
@zacdavis8234 6 месяцев назад
Zach
@JP-dn2eb
@JP-dn2eb 6 месяцев назад
Good job, you should have way more subs. Too many reactionary Jet content out there by people who dont analyze the game well. Keep it up! Also should mention that people tend to forget that Zachs progress the first two years were undermined by the O-line, granted Zach had some major technical issues based on the analysis I've seen of him.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the kind words
@dave-tl1iq
@dave-tl1iq 6 месяцев назад
The Jets better higher you next year. Mark it you will have 100K followers in the year, if you do the entire NFL. You will hit 1M plus followers within the year. Amazing knowledge and breakdown
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
💚💚💚 appreciate you
@marcofuertes4146
@marcofuertes4146 6 месяцев назад
Really changed my perspective on zw's performance against the giants. Optimistic we can beat the chargers Monday night.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I think TV is hard to tell. Plus, other big names are pushing narratives
@SR-cv5wv
@SR-cv5wv 6 месяцев назад
Play break down is phenomenal. When Zach got sacked with about 2 min left in the 4th I thought it was over. I went to that dark place saying we about to go 3-4. Wasted another low scoring game by the defense. Zach just has to combine all the struggles he has had and put to use the success he has created for final drives to help us win the game. I think he has a chance to be far better then the haters and doubters of the world think he is. Not saying top 10 QB but good enough to help the team win. He still doesn't have an O-line that he can say has protected him for 2 weeks in a row yet. Need to make plays earlier in the game to take some of the weight off the defense. I think if we do that the defense will elevate to an even higher level. Zach needs to be a contributor not the answer.
@SR-cv5wv
@SR-cv5wv 6 месяцев назад
Also props to Zach stepping up taking some tough hits in the end.
@_chosenone
@_chosenone 6 месяцев назад
This Giants defense is the same that held Josh Allen to 169 passing yards 2 TDs and 1 INT, 11 rushing yards.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yeah and it was pouring
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 6 месяцев назад
The D-line is stout for sure.
@rlumz6993
@rlumz6993 6 месяцев назад
Luke you are a treasure for these videos. Thank you for all that you do
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching
@your_fathershome
@your_fathershome 6 месяцев назад
Breaking it down from the Thunder Down Under! Thank you!!!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
You got it brother! Thanks as always
@fragehardt
@fragehardt 6 месяцев назад
I still legitimately believe Zach Wilson can be our QB of the future. If he continues playing like this, I'd decline his 5th year option and offer him a 3 year extension at a reasonable price (with the 3rd season not guaranteed). Play Aaron next year, let him sit like he was supposed to, and see what you've got for the next season or two after.
@jordanharvin4225
@jordanharvin4225 6 месяцев назад
Love your in depth videos man. I agree as well. Dan Orlovsky got shredded for essentially saying the same thing. Zach wouldve had 300 plus yards with those catches made, and wouldve extended those drives too. Hopefully he just keeps improving.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yep, exactly right. Tape speaks for itself. Dan was right
@Jaymets09
@Jaymets09 6 месяцев назад
But blind Jets fans will say he was horrible and the media except for Dan Orlovosky just for what ever likes to tear into this young man
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yep, I saw Dan say that. In the money. DJ too
@Sharp_Instincts
@Sharp_Instincts 6 месяцев назад
These Stooges, all supposedly "Jets" fans, or NFL QB aficiondas (Rich Eisen "I hope Zach never plays another down for the Jets", Connor Rodgers, Mike Greenberg, Jake Asman, Colon, Bart Scott, Richard Sherman, Peyton Manning, Ryan Fitzpatrick.... etc) will have to eat a lot of crow in the coming weeks. Orlovosky, Jeremiah, Laveranues Coles, David Carr, and Craig Carton are the only ones that give Zach any credit.
@Jaymets09
@Jaymets09 6 месяцев назад
@PlayLikeAJet Well I will continue to support this young man because I feel has not been dealt a good hand by this organization..I just hope he continues to grow into the QB we believe he can be
@Jaymets09
@Jaymets09 6 месяцев назад
@@Sharp_Instincts Colon was the worst of them all smh
@spreadlovefm
@spreadlovefm 6 месяцев назад
Rex Ryan sees it as well.
@WilsonProdzz
@WilsonProdzz 6 месяцев назад
I legit respect u so much bro, zach has shown so kany flashes that get overshadows by the bad ones
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
💚💚💚
@rrichards146
@rrichards146 6 месяцев назад
I saw the improvement, he’s getting better every week
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yep, I hear that
@jeffersonjohnson
@jeffersonjohnson 6 месяцев назад
My favorite part of his performance was after he spiked the ball to Breeece on 3rd down, Breece was visibly frustrated with Zach. When Breece dropped the big gain, Zach did nothing and moved on when he had every right to return the favor. Say what you will about him, I love his growth and how good a teammate he seems to be.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yep, you’re spot on with that. Goood point
@aabbat03
@aabbat03 6 месяцев назад
I’m so tired of people that don’t know anything about the game and what it takes to be successful at the position saying this kid sucks. He’s going to be a good QB in this league . Whether it’s here or somewhere else.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
He’s certainly showed over the last month that he’s got a good shot to stick
@RealisticJetsFan
@RealisticJetsFan 6 месяцев назад
Please educate me. I’m one of those people I guess who know nothing about the game. The jets offense can’t score and can’t convert 3rd downs. Worst in the league at both. I watch all the tape and every throw. I see a QB locked on one receiver on every play. I see wide open receivers on every play. I detail this on my channel. I watched ZW in college and nothing at all has changed. I ask and ask my fellow fans for explanations and just get criticized. Will one person tell me how a team with a top WR and RB can’t score? Before anyone blames the line I beg you to watch the tape and you will see and hear commentary how ZW holds the ball too long and missed wide open receivers.
@peugeot120
@peugeot120 6 месяцев назад
I immediately defended Zach online. Unfortunately I don’t have a big presence in the realm.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
I don’t think it matters. People see what they want to. No one listens to me online haha
@TheFunkyone33
@TheFunkyone33 6 месяцев назад
Thank You for being a voice of reality and sense..Zack Wilson has improved and impressed , but the media and internet jet fan trolls don't wanna admit or accept it , but give him his props..Thanks for the video breakdowns!!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for watching 💚💚
@john-pp7ws
@john-pp7ws 6 месяцев назад
i appreciate how you break it down , too many ignorant jets fans who really dont know what they talking about, this kid is improving at a rapid pace, things are really going to start clicking if they stop all these drops and oline can improve
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Happy to do need. Going to need more help up front, for sure
@wadewixom7029
@wadewixom7029 6 месяцев назад
I simply don’t understand the hate from NY. This guy will be a star with experience and time to throw. My guess is some other team will have him when he hits his stride.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Seems to be par for the course
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 6 месяцев назад
I hope you're right. It doesn't help that they anointed him the starter from day 1 and threw him to the wolves before he was ready.
@saboorheath7769
@saboorheath7769 6 месяцев назад
Beautiful breakdown once again. Why I'm looking at a lot analysts with a side eye, because I know they're not watching the game or film. And those throws with pressure would've been sacks in September. He was out there battling Sunday
@jerseymetalmike5111
@jerseymetalmike5111 6 месяцев назад
Zach Wilson needs to deliver... In the first quarter! He has talent, he has a great deep ball and can throw on the run like no one's business! And the INTs are way down. Clean up the errors already, throw it away when nothing is there, make the short throws, and he won't have to play hero ball all the time.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
We need to protect him and catch
@WilsonProdzz
@WilsonProdzz 6 месяцев назад
Dude i love how u focus on good things when players are young instead of the bad ones thac can be easialy flushed out. You earned urself another sub bro.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching the vid
@rumporridge1
@rumporridge1 6 месяцев назад
Tremendous assessment. Always been a Zack fan. He just need seasoning and a better O Line. He will be special.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Good news is, he only had to be an average starter and this team could be a contender. Keep up the same standard as the last 4 weeks
@user-ec4cd1eh3c
@user-ec4cd1eh3c 6 месяцев назад
Good job. Revealing the truth about Zach Wilson and his performances refreshing
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks very much! Gotta do it
@AK-py1ds
@AK-py1ds 6 месяцев назад
Awesome video! People think QB's are supposed to throw on their Superman cape and just find ways to throw 3 TD's and 400 yds a game. This is the ultimate team game, and this offense has 2 good skill players, and 3 good lineman and we were missing 2 of them. Zach is turning this around this year and the kid has guts, he won his teammates hearts and he's going to win the fans back.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate that! Agree, he’s put together a month of consistently solid ball and honestly should be 4-0
@AK-py1ds
@AK-py1ds 6 месяцев назад
@@PlayLikeAJet He looks completely different since the Chiefs game, he said something in an interview about understanding protection better, and I think that's a huge part of it. Accuracy, Ball placement, footwork has all improved. Need 1 more playmaker (slot WR maybe) and less sloppiness on offense.
@rawbfish9355
@rawbfish9355 6 месяцев назад
I liked your review a lot. People don’t realize that Mahomes has below 50% days and no one says a thing. Zach does and it’s the end of the world - even when he makes clutch throws to win it.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yep, it’s easy to just go along with the box score. Plenty of positives and the big drive to tie it!
@RealisticJetsFan
@RealisticJetsFan 6 месяцев назад
ZW has been shit for 3 years. The team has finished in last place every season he’s been here. He might end up being the biggest draft bust. SMFH
@PRonYouTube
@PRonYouTube 6 месяцев назад
Great showing by Mormon Mahomes, in spite of tons of adversity. Loving all of these videos! Really appreciate your analysis, it opens up a whole new world of insight for us.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the kind words. Hes resilient now
@robertosantos-vx6pn
@robertosantos-vx6pn 6 месяцев назад
Tikki Barber says that this is Zach’s rookie season because what he had coaching him and surrounding him when he got into the league. I hope he is right and Zach is growing.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Not a big Tiki fan but he has a point there. Hated MLF
@ryanandtricia
@ryanandtricia 6 месяцев назад
Sensible, objective, intelligent football breakdowns. It's almost like I don't know if I really woke up this morning or if I'm still dreaming. Thanks for the awesome content; subscribed :)
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for tuning in!
@user-ym9hu4bx8y
@user-ym9hu4bx8y 6 месяцев назад
He played very well some fans will celebrate the SB win and say ohh we are champions despite zach lol. Obviously he needs to omit those 3 bad errors. Everything else is high quality Nfl qb play. Especially under duress. Good job
@jusstnc1759
@jusstnc1759 6 месяцев назад
I’m telling ya… one team on our schedule is gonna be the first team to get baptized by this QB. He’s stacking and improving we need to get him some help. Some people will see what they want to see and make their judgement, but young players need time. Let’s go Zach!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
I love it. It’s coming! 🤝🏼🤝🏼
@coz-it6ci
@coz-it6ci 6 месяцев назад
You do an excellent job with the videos. I look forward to seeing your content
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks! Appreciate you
@froofycat
@froofycat 6 месяцев назад
I've said ALL YEAR Zach, has played great. It's not as if he is getting incrementally better, he has been great ALL YEAR. I have been unmercifully humiliated by Jets RU-vidrs. I have evaluated EVERY pass from the first, not as knowledgeable as you, I could see and would argue repeatedly that he was playing "Mahomes good" all year -- including in Dallas. And even the box scores have supported this. He has been statistically identical to ALL QB's he has played head to head this year: Allen, Mahomes, Prescott, Hurts, Russel, Jones, the Giants. Opposing QB average: 21-33 184 yards 1 TD 1 INT. Zach Wilson's average: 18-31 171 yards 1 TD 1 INT. Avr opponent defensive rank 13.7 Jets defensive rank 14
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Considering last year, big steps forward
@mgtow-balance3409
@mgtow-balance3409 6 месяцев назад
ok zackboy slow down now. zack has played ok, NOT great
@arthurmelander6224
@arthurmelander6224 6 месяцев назад
He has played great with that offensive line. Believe me by now if that offensive line was a sieve like it has been Aaron Rogers wouldn't have been able to stay healthy due to his age. Oh! Yep he didn't stand up to the pressure. That's the point that should be made. Very few QBs would do better under this offensive line.@@mgtow-balance3409
@live2thefullest617
@live2thefullest617 6 месяцев назад
The head-to-head QB numbers say more about the Jets D, imo. Zach played at Mahomes' level in THAT game, or rather, Mahomes played down to Zach's level because of the Jets D. On the season, Mahomes is ranked No. 2 out of all QBs and Zach is ranked No. 28, down at the bottom where he has been for his entire career.
@davet2459
@davet2459 6 месяцев назад
Though I certainly wouldn't jump to great he has played more than adequately and considering the o-line and his lame OC holding him back he has done quite well. The reality is that it is hard to play QB for some teams in some towns... and there is a reason that teams like the Jets, the Browns, the Bears haven't had a truly great QB for decades because those towns with the poor weather and wind factors make playing QB extremely difficult and problematic. Time will perhaps tell if Rodgers can succeed there if and when he plays but for now history tells us that he will look far worse than most ppeople seem to expect.
@taylorcollyer7026
@taylorcollyer7026 6 месяцев назад
I love your channel man. You put together a great analysis every week to counter the false narratives about Zach. Thanks for the endless entertainment!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Appreciate the kind words! Thanks for watching
@moshehdoeswhat986
@moshehdoeswhat986 6 месяцев назад
One of my fave channels! Keep up the great work
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate the love
@jerrycurls88
@jerrycurls88 6 месяцев назад
Another great breakdown video Luke! Without the all-22 during the game, it definitely seemed like he was not as accurate. You have to wonder what he would do if they open up the offense and let him throw earlier in the game. It would help Breece too. He was bottled up since the Giants didnt respect the pass at all.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yep, TV is so hard. Especially when the commentators and producers control a lot of the narrative. I wish the playcalling was better!
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 6 месяцев назад
The television games don't show you enough, and it's still too hard to keep track of. With all-22 you can look at a pass that was catchable but not necessarily a dime, and it goes from questionable to a great throw, because the second time around you notice that he's got Xavier Newman in his lap.
@benarmstrong6478
@benarmstrong6478 6 месяцев назад
Great stuff, thanks. Add to the fact the running game couldn't gain a yard and it was a monsoon and that's a terrific performance. Compare and contrast to the Giants passing game, which had negative yards in those conditions.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Running game has been laboring
@samcimino2619
@samcimino2619 6 месяцев назад
You do a great job with these breakdown videos. More people should watch them in order to get a detailed look and a better understanding of what exactly is going on instead of listening to some of those bone-headed sports talk shows spouting their garbage opinions just to generate clicks. 💚
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Appreciate the kind words
@cardfan6509
@cardfan6509 6 месяцев назад
Yes the great Zack haters should watch your analysis. Thanks great work.
@CH-lx5pb
@CH-lx5pb 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the full picture gives me hope
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
🤝🏼🤝🏼
@chrisburger2467
@chrisburger2467 6 месяцев назад
Hey Luke - your breakdowns are always great. Thanks for your work. So ZW gets so much grief for holding the ball too long - can you do an assessment about whether the receivers are even getting open to throw to? It’s impossible to see from the broadcast but maybe the All-22 can shed light?
@thefreedomhouse1984
@thefreedomhouse1984 6 месяцев назад
I love your breakdowns. I really think the OC called a terrible game. 3rd&1 empty back set is unacceptable, you have to a least show run.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
That really got to me as well!
@marsMayflower
@marsMayflower 6 месяцев назад
dude has an arm for sure and he is getting better. he was just so bad last year that people can't seem to let go. remember when quarterbacks would sit for the first three years?
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Horrendous last year. But the ability to overcome people wearing Mike Freakin White shirts, is toughhhh 🔥
@lightxgrenade
@lightxgrenade 6 месяцев назад
For those ppl saying we didn't need to grab another receiver, Alan Lazard in this game proves we do. Yes the o-line is rough but at receiver, Garrett is basically option A, B, and C right now because we can't truly rely on any other wideout.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
No other wr can beat man
@rocketdaone
@rocketdaone 6 месяцев назад
I've noticed it much recently as early as the Pats game that something about Zach was different Against the Patriots he would usually struggle in the turnover department, nope no picks, no fumbles nothin However the combination of noone being open all game and pressure did him dirty And this game, the pressure kept comin and Zach hung in there so, I think he's gotten alot better now that Aaron Rodgers has been around to mentor and now that we actually have an OC... Kinda
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I haven’t loved Hackett but Rodgers has had a huge impact
@maxvictorino2766
@maxvictorino2766 6 месяцев назад
Great analysis, watched the game and was simply just angry at the incompletions at the time. See it in a new light now
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
That’s the goal! Thanks man
@MrDee-cm1yo
@MrDee-cm1yo 6 месяцев назад
Love your analysis keep up the good work and thanks!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks so much 💚
@chrissly1976
@chrissly1976 6 месяцев назад
Love this breakdown Luke! His numbers could and should have been 300+, right? Imagine what even a small running game could do. AR should be more involved in the game planning. Agree? Keep up the amazing content! My fav Jets podcast by far. Cheers!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Appreciate the love! Exactly. And that’s still with pretty average OL play!
@DaemonGeek
@DaemonGeek 6 месяцев назад
I think what matters most when evaluating a young QB's play is: what are the tangible improvements over time? And I think that despite what the numbers tell you, Zach Wilson is showing signs of improvement over the course of the season. I'm still not sure if he will become the franchise QB that his high draft pick would imply, but I do think that the improvement on film and the likely influence of AR18 on his development is real.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yep, I hear that
@LOLINC2010
@LOLINC2010 6 месяцев назад
Great video! Really liked how you broke down all of this!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching
@kam_12_
@kam_12_ 6 месяцев назад
that first down to CJ was beauty,, love the progression im seeing from Zach. we knew it wouldnt happen over night but hes making enough strides to get us wins, hopefully hackett doesn’t keep hold him and this offense back
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
It was so nice. Can go unnoticed but sexy af
@WilliamAJones-ru7yk
@WilliamAJones-ru7yk 6 месяцев назад
Your information is so good! Thank you!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
💚💚
@pollutedeyeball6126
@pollutedeyeball6126 6 месяцев назад
Great video breakdown. I love all the camera angles - especially from above/behind so we see what the defense is giving him to read. Agree 100% about Rogers being there on the sidelines. He's the QB coach they've lacked forever. Having a young QB learn from his favorite player, that situation doesn't happen very often. Aaron likes teaching too. So the pairing is really positive. Wilson has led the team to 3 victories in the 4th quarter. That's often overlooked. He's still young and has more to learn but growth is happening and victories are the results. For the most part the game was brutal to watch. Morstead probably had to ice his leg down and take a few days off to recover from all the punts he made. He was terrific. I don't think I've seen 3 punts land inside the 10 in a single game before. Looking forward to this week's game and your breakdown of it next week.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Appreciate you watching
@thomasaguilera3096
@thomasaguilera3096 6 месяцев назад
Wow! Incredible truth once again ! Keep it coming please 👊
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching
@Onetwothreepeanuts
@Onetwothreepeanuts 6 месяцев назад
Another great job Luke! Quick question for you. Have you ever mentioned in one of your videos how you became a football fan? And why the Jets of all teams? I've been asking myself the latter for 40 years.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Started following football super closely in 2009. Needed a team and didn’t want a bandwagon, typical overseas fan team. So went with the squad with a new QB/HC combo and already liked the Yankees
@Onetwothreepeanuts
@Onetwothreepeanuts 6 месяцев назад
@@PlayLikeAJet Well glad you're on our side brother.🛫🛫🛫
@TravisW.
@TravisW. 6 месяцев назад
Luke, curious as to what you think about going more tempo/no huddle? Zach seems to thrive when playing fast, and there are so many occasions during games when the Jets O needs something, anything, to get going. Of course it's not realistic to use it "a lot", but not sure why it can't be strategically deployed each game in critical moments when something has to ignite the engine. It's frustrating that Hackett won't do it.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Am completely with you. Give me tempo, first down passes and PA. That’s all I want in life
@trivera7372
@trivera7372 6 месяцев назад
To be honest since i started watching your analysis i dont hear the outside noise from the haters they want to created this narrative bout ZW cuz they scare the truth is hes gotten a lot better this year n hes growing everywerk theres more that meet the eye most of thse people look at the final score and they dont watched the game play by play, luv your show lets go jets
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Great to hear! Go jets
@Gusvattes823
@Gusvattes823 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for this excellent analysis. I have heard other podcasts that have completely destroyed ZW for this game. Jake Asman for one, which I didn’t agree with before I looked at the film. I was at the game and I felt like you before seeing the film. Now you gave me proof. This was one of his best games and I have been killing ZW for a while now. I do think he is turning the corner. I am praying that his is a redemption story because I love those.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Appreciate you watching. Glad your enjoyed. I hear you. I feel like a lot of guys will talk for the sake of a clip
@Kman032
@Kman032 6 месяцев назад
In the Jets O-Line defense, they were up against Dexter Lawrence and Kayvon Thibodeaux
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Would like to do much better against them though
@Kman032
@Kman032 6 месяцев назад
Very true, we’re a couple adjustments away from having at least a mid tier offense. I’m hype about our defense, they’re stacked and won us games
@Kman032
@Kman032 6 месяцев назад
Garret Wilson and Breece hall are both also amazing players, Offensive rookie of the year and runner up last year respectively. Just some lineman and new receivers and I think we’ll look fire
@davidwarburton8890
@davidwarburton8890 6 месяцев назад
So was Zach.
@adamis2cool
@adamis2cool 6 месяцев назад
credit to hard knocks - we saw that Zach has significant smarts in playaction. it’s really disappointing we don’t use more of it as a way to open up the field more
@basicmeme1040
@basicmeme1040 6 месяцев назад
This just showed why the jets need to get some young o line. Also sadly mekhi struggled this week after a great performance 2 weeks ago.
@ladistar
@ladistar 6 месяцев назад
Clown he played very well
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yeah one bad game. Not worried about Becton
@harrisonweaver1174
@harrisonweaver1174 6 месяцев назад
zach has been doing this all season! outside of the Dallas and New England game he has been solid. It really is a shame our o-line is horrible because that is what is truly holding this offense back. If we can get tippman back and Rodger saffold can be a average guard we are gonna go on a run.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Even Dallas I think he was fine, until the game was dead. Need Tippmann back badly
@drazz238
@drazz238 6 месяцев назад
First time seeing your work. Very good video!
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks so much!
@Sharp_Instincts
@Sharp_Instincts 6 месяцев назад
63,000 Views !!! - Way to go Luke, you deserve to go viral
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
💚💚 You’re the man
@Sharp_Instincts
@Sharp_Instincts 6 месяцев назад
@@PlayLikeAJet Heh Luke - I still have faith in Zach, but if the game plan doesn't open up, it won't happen Against Raiders in 1st half, we ran on 9 first downs, we passed on 4, on those 4 Zach was 3 for 3 for about 60 yards and with 1 grounding penalty. In 2nd half, Zach went 7 for 9 on 1st down passes, until the hail mary's started getting thrown. Uzomah stopped 2 drives with penalties, Huff's pers foul gave the Raiders 3 points, Michael Carter per foul took away a first down in the 2nd half, Lazard quit on a Go Route when he had his man beat, Lazard did not come back to meet the ball on the interception. They are good enough to blow these teams out, I think Saleh is at heart a ground and pound guy and is shutting down the offense, but we don't run well on 1st down with the current OL, we need to wear them out with alternating short and long passes, and use the run after the drive has had a few first downs.
@arunmorace1136
@arunmorace1136 6 месяцев назад
Excellent breakdown. If Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, etc. had done this in these conditions (terrible weather, multiple drops, OL allowing THIRTY pressures), they'd be lauded for a heroic performance. Zach hasn't been perfect, but he's much improved and it's fair to wonder what he can look like with a better OL and/or when he finally gets that full year sitting behind Rodgers.
@grimeybeast1465
@grimeybeast1465 6 месяцев назад
The Jets Defense will keep the score low. So, Zac doesn't have to be amazing. He has to be good enough. And damnit, he is. As it stands now, this season is a testament to Zac's character and grit. I'm here for it.
@Damon-ik1kh
@Damon-ik1kh 6 месяцев назад
I was at the game 4th row sec 116 and this video gave me hope because i lost all hope after turnover on downs
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
It was a dark moment for me too haha
@fernandoperles727
@fernandoperles727 6 месяцев назад
Very well explained. Thanks.
@Blaaww1
@Blaaww1 6 месяцев назад
I knew that Zach showed improvement. Hard for any qb to have a clinic with the pocket clasping so often, but this dude made me get a lil hype for zac, on the ball handling that was smooth 😂
@jasonfeulner9817
@jasonfeulner9817 6 месяцев назад
I’ve been fighting it but your breakdown shows real growth
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Hahah just on board
@ERX825
@ERX825 6 месяцев назад
As long as every team plays only Prevent Defense, Zack Wilson will be in the hall of fame!
@ivankhoury4861
@ivankhoury4861 6 месяцев назад
Great analysis. Thank you
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
🤝🏼🤝🏼
@paulvella5744
@paulvella5744 6 месяцев назад
Excellent Video Commentary from the Aussie, once again! Agree about the progress Zach has made… He’s taking a lot of shots…
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for that! Hes getting there, every week
@stevebaltuck8992
@stevebaltuck8992 6 месяцев назад
Will McDonald made a great play on the field goal attempt to open the door. Zach came through clutch in the end.They just have to play more consistently so they don’t have to pull out the game in the last seconds. But that will take a major improvement of the offensive line and wide receivers with the exception of Garrett Wilson.Maybe they should also go with a 3 tight end set. I think they are all capable receivers and run blockers.
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Amazing play.
@kevinsommers0704
@kevinsommers0704 6 месяцев назад
When i seen 6:56 live i said woh thats the Aaron affect right there thats elite foot work & trickery that can fool the camera nice work Zach
@PlayLikeAJet
@PlayLikeAJet 6 месяцев назад
Yep 100%
@Jasonlednew
@Jasonlednew 6 месяцев назад
As a longtime Jets fan, who has really struggled to see past Zach's glaring mistakes, this video was helpful. I'm hopeful for the future, but what about the Hackett problem? I imagine Rodgers won't let us replace him, but I agree 100% that this scheming isnt helping at all, even if the more immediate problem is the OL performance with injuries and such.
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