Well Mr. Beat, you could have a negative sales tax where the state incentivizes you to spend on consumer goods. That would be a bit silly though, because in a capitalistic society, corporations would just up the price of goods to what the market would bear, and taxpayers would foot the bill.
Oregon has No sales tax. Washington has No income tax. Vancouver WA is right across the Columbia river from Portland OR. Guess where a lot of Vancouverites do their shopping?
Gobi have you seen our trees, we don’t have Christmas trees, our trees are about a hundred or so feet at most, old growth trees are some of the biggest in the world
I live in Washington state, used to live in Portland; I've never gotten the feeling that one or the other was better or worse or disliked their neighbor; in fact - it's the opposite. We're bordered by the mighty Columbia so as Frost said: "good fences make good neighbors". . Now Portland/Seattle - well...
@@DKMetcaIf x to doubt. Grew up in tacoma spent a bit of time up in Seattle and few trips to Portland and I moved to Wisconsin said fuck this and now I'm outside portland and it's so much chiller than Seattle. I feel safer too but anywhere is better than tacoma and Wisconsin
I am a 5th generation Oregonian. Love Oregon lived in Washington for many years, But if I could I would live in BC, Cleaner, friendlier, and truth be said, I am tired of the politics like the Proud Boys and Antifa. And Trump is the first president I actually hate and am disgusted with the whole Bully shit this country has became. And yes I did serve my country in Vietnam and was proud to do so at the time. But we are going too far in the wrong direction. I could get lost in the Forest of BC and not regret it.
PSA for any Canadians visiting Oregon or Washington for the first time: I get really annoyed when people appear to not know what they are doing on the road (I get it, we live in 2 different countries but at least learn the difference between miles and kilometers). Sorry, rant over. Have a great rest of your day or night or whatever
I know right! Wasted my entire life in shitty red states I currently live in Washington, an amazing blue state! Great education and healthcare! The South sucks!
Oregon also started dutch bros a coffee chain,fred myer basically kroger,burgerville a fast food chain,Tillamook cheese which is of course a cheese and dairy company that has now gotten to the east coast,and some companies have headquarters in oregon too
You forgot to say that Spain owned the Oregon Terrritory as far as the 54'30" North parallel (Alaska) and ceded its claims to the Oregon Country to US when the frontier with New Spain (México) was established at the 42n Parallel , so Oregon Country originally was part of New Spain until Spain ceded its claims to the territory in favor of US by the Adams-Onís Treaty of 1819.
When he said “perhaps the border that exists between you two, won’t have to exist.” I hope he knows that there is a river that separates us and acts as a natural border
@@Shadow_Drip what I meant to say is that, the narrator probably meant that two states won't have to exist as separate entities(not about the existence of the river).
Well, in his defense there are cities, like mine, Ashland, where there are city-imposed sales taxes so its not exactly correct to say we have 'Zero sales tax' we have zero state sales tax.
Originally from California, I have been a Washington resident for over 10 years now and I love it. Several years ago, I also lived in Oregon and loved it as well. And additionally, I have lived in Idaho And I loved it. I guess you can say that I love the Pacific Northwest. And will most likely live here the rest of my life.♥️♥️♥️
I've lived back and forth between both my whole life. They are actually quite different. Mostly when you compare WA and OR you are comparing Seattle and Portland. - People in Portland are much more friendly and it's easier to make friends there, although hardly anyone is from there anymore and it's becoming painfully self-aware. - There is a lot more action and nightlife in Seattle but the people are notably cold and it is notoriously difficult to make friends there (look up "Seattle Freeze", there is an entire Wikipedia article dedicated to this notion). - Seattle is wayyyyyyyy more expensive and you will absolutely notice it if you visit both. - No question, the food is much better in Portland and there are endlessly more options and variety. - The city parks are much better in Seattle. Nature parks in Portland are all on the perimeters of the city, while in Seattle they are scattered intermittently throughout. - Sailing and other maritime activities are indisputably better in Seattle. It is very nautical, right on the Puget Sound. There are large inhabited islands everywhere that you can take ferries to. Portland is not nautical but has one main river with a ton of beautiful and unique bridges over it. - Traffic is equally bad in both - in Seattle because the freeway has like seven lanes but there are SO many people, and in Portland because there are too many people and the freeway often has only three lanes. - Both are being gentrified and giant apartment buildings/condos that all look exactly the same are going up everywhere. Especially in Portland they are replacing areas that actually contributed culture like many food truck pods and the goat blocks. - Both are notorious for heavy annual rainfall. Seattle gets a little more rain, but Portland has more overcast grey days. In Seattle the sky is bigger, probably due to the hills, so there always seems to be a break in the grey somewhere in the distance. In Portland, when the overcast is here, it's much more all-encompassing. - Seattle is very hilly all over the place, you will have trouble riding your bike around many areas. Portland is in a valley and is a lot flatter. - Oregon beaches are infinitely nicer and more beautiful, but WA has the better forests. - Seattle is obsessed with the Seahawks and Portland is obsessed with the Blazers, but the Seahawks obsession in Seattle is much more fanatic and omnipresent. - Population density is much higher in Seattle. Upon driving to Seattle after a day in Portland it will feel like there are people everywhere. - Seattle is much more diverse than Portland, although both are very white. Portland is the whitest major city in the US. Seattle has a large asian population. - People are wealthier in Seattle as their market is absolutely dominated by tech industries. Portland is more middle class and is not dominated by any single industry. - Portland is generally about 5-10 degrees warmer at any given time. - Seattle feels like a big city. Portland feels more like a large small town.
lol: Wrong about the rainfall, I'm afraid. Portland averages 43.5 inches a year to Seattle's 37.7: numbers that are comparable to St. Louis (41) and Chicago (36.9) but NOWHERE NEAR New Orleans (62.7). Really, both cities LOOK like it's going to rain far more than it actually does, especially from October to April. Compare to Forks, WA, which averages 121 inches per year.
This is great information. The only comment I have is that I visited the Seattle area about 15 year ago for about a week when one of my nieces graduated from college in Tacoma. The traffic in Seattle was the worst I've even encountered and I've driven in every large city in the west. It was worse than southern California, Phoenix, Albuquerque, the Wasatch Front in Utah, Boise, Las Vegas and even San Francisco. I've lived in remote rural areas most of my life so comparing cities from state to state isn't really relevant to me. I'm for the Green Bay Packers and whoever happens to be playing Dallas and Seattle. The latter due to Pete Carroll, who seems to be disliked by everyone outside of Washington. This mainly for how he recruited at USC. That university had been violating nearly every NCAA rule for years, but Carroll upped the ante. When he got caught, he just left the place in a mess and took big money to go pro. He never had to pay a price for it and even people who dislike USC dislike Carroll for it.
I'm from Portland, I've been Seattle in about 20 years so I don't know but Portland is notorious now for one thing; Junkies... I can't walk a block without seeing a orange fucking needle cap. They're everywhere. I thought about starting up a business and collecting them and reselling them back to the pharmaceutical companies I might make a fortune...
I'm from Oregon. I'm impressed by the accuracy and in-depth research you did! I'm from OR, but very familiar with Washington. I've hiked hundreds of miles in both states, but tend to hike in Washington more. Just some facts I know: -Both states love their public lands and love outdoor recreation-especially hiking. Unfortunately, WA has less public land. -We're super green and environmentally friendly. -Both OR and WA used to claim the tallest trees in the world, with some as high as 460 feet tall (approx. 100 feet taller than the redwoods.) But all of those douglas firs were the first to be logged in the 1800s as they were located in river bottoms closest to development. (They were located at the base of the mountains, and were thus the first to be encountered.) Washington: 1. Not only does it have the highest mountain of both states, but it has the second highest too-Mt. Adams, which is about 900 feet taller than Mt Hood. (2nd between both states, as California has the true 2nd tallest Cascade range volcano.) Washington, from the mountains around Mount Rainier, from Snoqualmie Pass/I-90 to Canada (region called the "North Cascades"), and the Olympic Mountains all are more rugged than any mountainous area in Oregon aside from the Wallowas in NE Oregon. The Wallowas are similar in terms of "ruggedness." 1A. Note that although Rainier is taller, Mt. Adams is bigger in volume. Adams is much, much bigger than Mt. Hood, as well. It is also the 2nd largest in the Cascades, succeeding after Mt Shasta in northern California. 2. has the most rugged mountains in the lower 48. The North Cascades is the most rugged mountain range in the lower 48 states. More rugged than both the Rockies and the Californian Sierras! (According to a scientific study measuring ruggedness/elevation changes.) 3. boasts the longest stretch of wilderness coastline. Yes, we here in Oregon have public beaches, but none of ours are wilderness/undeveloped for as long of a stretch. 4. The Channeled Scablands in the east side, which is basically all mini-canyons, exposed bedrock, potholes, and coulees. It was all carved out by the Missoula Ice Floods-the largest flood in world history. All that sediment washed down into Oregon's Willamette Valley. 5. Washington has the most glaciers in the lower 48. FAR more than Oregon's, which pales in comparison. Something like 500 to 50. 6. Washington has *more national parks* than Oregon. 3 parks: Olympic, Mt Rainier, and North Cascades, compared to one in Oregon-Crater Lake NP. 7. Arguably, Washington has the prettiest city skyline in the U.S.-Seattle. Its skyline is the most varied, framed by Rainier, the Space Needle, and North Cascades on the east; and the Puget Sound (ocean inlet) and the Olympic Mountains to the west. Bear in mind I'm from Portland and never lived in Washington. 8. Tallest waterfall in the US, outside of Hawaii. Some of the tallest, over 2,000 feet high, are located in the North Cascades. Yes, even taller than Yosemite Falls in California (often "claimed" to be the tallest). Also, much taller than Multnomah Falls in Oregon, sometimes "claimed" to be the second tallest in the contiguous U.S. (not even close, as it is approx. 600 feet and several in WA are close to 3,000 feet tall.). 9. Washington has the most acreage of protected wilderness, although less in number. Read: bigger wilderness areas (See OR #9). Oregon: 1. Has more volcanoes than Washington. In fact, Oregon has the most in the US outside of Alaska. It also has some of the biggest lava flows. While Washington's Cascades are so rugged and steep, Oregon's Cascades (New "High" Cascades) are very flat-ish and volcanic. 2. Oregon's big city, Portland, is much greener than Seattle, in terms of green space and trees. Much more trees in Portland. Its largest park, a nature park in the middle of downtown-named Forest Park, is over 6,000 acres in size! That is 6k acres of pure natural forests and miles of trails. 3. Lightrail: Portland also has one of the best (and most successful) lightrail systems in America-the MAX lines. You can get to any corner of the city (and surrounding metropolitan area) with the MAX tram lines. 4. Streetcar: PDX also is cited in other cities as one of the best textbook examples of streetcar implementation. 5. Crater Lake, is one of the deepest lakes in the world. 6. Most rugged desert. While WA claims the most rugged mountains, OR has the most rugged desert/"eastern half" out of the two states. It has deeper canyons, including the rugged Owyhee Canyonlands. 7. Deepest canyon in the U.S.-Hell's Canyon. Deeper than the Grand Canyon! The depth of the canyon is around 9,000 feet deep. 8. Oregon's Cascades are primarily consisted of black-colored basalt rock, whereas Washington's Cascades, north of Mt. Rainier, has mostly white/grey granite. 9. Oregon has the most protected wilderness areas, although less in size (See WA #9). Imo, both states are wonderful. I don't really have a favorite, although I have a small bias towards Washington because of its ""grander" scenery. But my home and "home-y" feel has always been in Oregon.
Washington State is/was home to the best railroad grade over the Cascade Mountains as well (not counting the Columbia River Gorge). It now goes by the John Wayne / Iron Horse trail.
I think he pronounced Rainier correctly. But what do I know? I grew up near the Ozark mountains in Missouri. Those mountains don't hold a candle to Mount Rainier, Mount Baker or Mount Hood.
Born and raised Washingtonian here this is exactly my problem!!! All the good land too!!! Either make some of it public or Atleast have it broken up and I wish the locals got any type of love when it comes to property
The "correct" pronunciation sounds so fucking ugly and incorrect. It's a French word. It sounds so much nicer with the emphasis on the last syllable. But I will admit that I am biased, as I come from the South, where the more French pronunciation will always prevail.
Washington has the one city that no one knows where it is... Vancouver..... like in Canada? No in Washington.... like Washington DC? Yeah sure, go there...
Im from Washington... "oh i love dc" No like vancouver... "oh canada is nice" Fine its near portland... "oh i hear maine is great" FINE IM FROM SEATTLE JESUS CHRIST!!!!
Yeah, Kentucky is bad. My boyfriend's family lives in the south and visiting them is awful. Wish they could visit us here in Washington but they refuse. Probably scared they'll realise how terrible the south is once they venture out of it.
I haven't been in Washington for 11 years... and I miss living there a lot! But in approximately in 6 years I'll return... I hope not to be considered/feel like an outsider.
Sadly, Boeing moved their headquarters to Chicago in 2001, so while they still have quite a lot of business operations in Washington, they are no longer officially a Washington company.
So right about that. My wife and I moved to Southern Oregon a year and a half ago from San Diego. It definitely feels like a different country up here in a good way.
Another thing. Originally, Washington was going to be called Columbia, after the Columbia river, but named it Washington in order to avoid confusion between the state, and the district of Columbia. And the two were never confused for each other again
It can be a little more confusing. I live in Vancouver Washington and when I get asked where I live, I always have to specify: Washington, no, not DC. Vancouver, no, not BC. At this point I just tell people I am just north of Portland Oregon. Usually that works.
In stead of combining, the west side of Washington and Oregon should combine while the east sides do the same. The result, two states east and west of each other by the cascades.
Absolutely not. Otherwise we in the west side couldn't control and financially support the east side. We have a lot of control in how we manage public lands in the east side, state parks, as well as just having a greater say in federal public lands in the east side. Lawmakers thus pay attention to all of Oregon, rather than just the eastern side for how to manage public lands in the state. Oregonians and Washingtonians on the west side don't want the eastern sides of our states to become managed like Idaho, which has a worse environmental track record than Oregon and Washington. As an avid hiker from the west side in Oregon, I hike in eastern Washington and Oregon dozens of times a year. Not having a strong say in that part of my state would be horrible. And economically, the east sides rely on the west sides' economic urban powerhouses for economic support. And as for eastern Oregon, they'd be even further from the hypothetical eastern side seat of power and largest urban centers (assuming it is near Spokane), than how far they are from the Willamette Valley in Oregon currently.
as someone who moved from washington to florida a few years back, im just gonna say.. washington is probably the best state to exist. if u live in washington, dont ever move to florida.. here in florida, the healthcare is NOT the same, the FOOd is not authentic, and most definitely, the people here are CRAZY.
Has anyone seen the Cascadia flag designed by Alexander Baretich? It's quite ubiquitous in the close-in eastside parts of Portland, but I haven't seen it much elsewhere.
A large percentage of eastern Oregon's population would love to leave and join Idaho. Southern Oregon would also like to combine with northern California to become the state of Jefferson. The political tyranny of the western portions of both states is astounding, rural communities have very little representation in both states.
Dan Webb Yeah this. 30 minutes away from Portland there is a massive Intel plant, they actually just finished a new office building if I remember correctly. I took a tour of it during high school, all I remember is the little machine that carries the silicon wafers around the building is called a FOOP haha
Yeah, but Intel is headquartered in California. For the same reason, the video did not mention Boeing (started in Seattle but now it is legally headquartered in Chicago).
Does that plant in OR make the i5 and/or i7 processors? I built a new computer about 2014, and one of the few parts made in the US was the Intel i5 I bought. :) Your neighbor in Idaho. Potatoes rock! :) But I think our state harvests more sugar beats.
I have lived in Washington all my life and never ever heard someone say Washington is better than Oregon. But... I do have to say you missed that Washington has more hours of sun in the summer and less in the winter. There is a big difference between southern Oregon and northern Washington. Washington has the Puget sound... that one was huge. Washington has a north shore. Seattle was the hub for the Yukon gold rush. Washington has way more islands than Oregon. Oregon has creater lake. Washington has 3 national parks while Oregon has 1.
Oregon seems to have a more laid back vibe than Washington. I also feel the infrastructure of Oregon is behind compared to WA as the freeways and roads still seem to be stuck in the 80s. Portland has a more open vibe than Seattle’s hustle and bustle. I can say that Portland smells badly of pee in some of the downtown areas. Seattle traffic can be horrid and you can get stuck for an extra hour in stopped traffic if you’re trying to get somewhere on time. Washington is also becoming ridiculously expensive- excessive taxes and cost of living. Despite some of Washington’s downfalls, I love my home state and its beauty, innovation, and culture. I’ll always be proud to call myself a native Washingtonian.
Thats_LIfe I’ve lived in both but still prefer Washington (lived in Port Angeles, WA for a few years and then Pendleton, OR for a few). If I had to move back from where I am now I’d probably pick Washington but a different city, maybe Bellingham.
The traffic congestion is planned, as their planners rejected building lots of highways splitting neighborhoods apart. That is one way in which Portland is CLEARLY superior to SEA. Neighborhoods.
our current governor of Portland is against cars. Speed limits are constantly being lowered and lanes are being taken away to add bike lanes. Some changes make sense (like adding a bike lane along Naito Parkway) but in the suburbs it doesn't make sense to do it sense it is far from downtown.
@@l253lhmn6 I'm from Portland, and I am from the outlying suburbs, and I also use a car only. But I am all for the city being "against" cars and being a little more fair to cyclists and public transport. PDX's lightrail system is the envy of the nation; I'm proud of it, even if I don't really use it. It is great for our tourist economy, too. I hate busses, so I would much rather ride the MAX instead. As for cyclists. I am not one myself; I live on a large hill, and I hate riding in the summer heat or winter rain... but, I am all for making our roads and bike-ways safer for bikers. Lastly, I am for all this because we car-users tend to get favored all the time. We get the best of the whole system-roads, freeways, etc. Our city system favors us. So, to be a little bit more fair, I am OK with giving up at least 10% of our roadways and transportation funding for other users who don't like using cars. Lastly, a lot of people don't use public transport and cycle often, because the system is not developed enough. The more bike ways are added, and the safer users feel riding on them, the more people will feel comfortable to start using them. A lot of people are dissuaded from riding a bike right next to cars, but a little separation goes a long way to encourage people who want to bike, but are afraid to. Secondly, increasing the bike network makes it more convenient for new cyclists. Same with the MAX lines. The more lines are built, the more convenient the start and end destinations will be for people. Imagine if we only had 10% of the road network that we have-most likely, many of us would be walking, biking, or using alternate methods to transport us.
I’ve lived in Oregon for 6 years and there’s tons to love about this state. The Oregon Coast for one is spectacular. But I prefer Washington in just about every category. I don’t think you mentioned there are 3 national parks within a few hours distance from Seattle. Oregon has only one and it’s far from Portland. Seattle is also surrounded by the Puget Sound so water views abound. Seattle also has more moderate weather both in summer and winter. But I’m focusing here on the big cities rather than the states I suppose..
As a true Oregonian, Washington feels like the more popular little brother. Also Oregon is the only state on the western side of the US with gas attendants (You don't pump gas yourself, someone else does)
Nate are you guys pulling out any time soon? I don't hear as much news about CA trying to recede from the United States now that the whole country is doing great economically though you guys lag behind in...quality of life/ thinking. Lol
Painting Potatoe lmao I didn’t know if the fact was true or not. I just assumed. Also, I love Oregon. You are lucky to live in such a beautiful state. I just like big cities and Seattle has a more big city feel than Portland.
Painting Potatoe Although the population of the two cities is similar, Seattle has a more big city like downtown and seems to be more Urban than Portland from what I have heard.
I think Oregonians got the better deal on that one... cuz they can take tax off in WA if they ask & show an Oregon ID/license at time of purchase. (See also the WalMart in Longview, WA which asks when you check out if you're an OR resident... :) ).
WA GOP have tried to dial that perk back in the Legislature last season! That is why we need to DEPORT the GOP out of WA! Back to wherever their rock was!
@@lupine25 you do realize those of us who live in Washington can literally do the same exact thing right.... lol. I was born in Eugene and I moved to Vancouver in 2014 and I'll neverrrrrrrr move back.
Interesting thing about that (see link attached)... Apparently California, in general, is inhaling educated people and people with higher incomes, and exhaling the undereducated and those with lower incomes. It's as though those who fail in California are compelled to relocate to places where their failure in life will be less failey. In short, to parapharase D.J. Trump-- they're not sending their best. lao.ca.gov/LAOEconTax/Article/Detail/265
As an Oregon resident, you forgot to mention the Rogue Valley being home to Harry and David. Oregon grows pears along with other produce. Also in Oregon is Arcimoto, a Fun Utility Vehicle manufacurer.
In fact, it's illegal to do otherwise. I just heard a story today about someone who was raised in Oregon and couldn't figure out what to do when pumping gas in a different state.
They tweaked that law. Out in the Eastern part of the state--- if no one after 6 p.m. is on duty--you pump your own gas! (On I-84 at least it happens!)
The intel property is also in Beaverton/Hillsboro, havent been past there since i went to Salem, so i have no idea how big it is rn. But the Nike building looks pretty cool not gonna lie
Washington: Costco, Boeing, Amazon, Microsoft, Cascades, apples, Sounders, Mt Rainier/Tahoma, Hawks, Mt Baker, Olympic rainforest, Space Needle, big trees, drizzle, desert, beaches and the Foo Fighters. Oregon: Nike, Columbia Sportswear, salmon, Cascades, apples, Big trees, Timbers, Mt Hood, Glacier Lake, Tillamook cheese, mist, beaches, desert and ducks. Both are great states, but if I had to choose it would be WA. I am a bit biased tho.
I was born in Oregon, and my family is Oregonian, but we moved to Washington about 9 years ago. If the states were to combine, it should only be the western parts, and the eastern parts should merge with Idaho, or just merge on their own. That, or we secede from the US, and fuse with the rest of the Cascadia bio-region to create an independent nation.
Most people dont recognize that the pnw is only like a quarter of Washington. WA is a dessert state. Also, Yakima is the butthole of Washington. The tallest building I've seen in yakima is the jail :p
I live in Washington State. It's pretty even to me. For this exercise let's assume I'm mainly talking about the Seattle/Tacoma and Portland/Eugene area. Food: HEAVILY favors Oregon Water: Puget Sound > Columbia River tho... Beaches/Coast: Oregon. Washington has a lot of shoreline but a lot is rocky not sandy. Mountains: Agree with video. Washington. East of Cascades: Push Culture: Slight edge to Oregon. I appreciate Oregon being less industrial and populous. But like WA's job market. The traffic sucks tho.
