So her son got sent to the tree plane, and spent his whole life looking for his mother, only to find her as a child, and get torn away from her again. That’s what I got from this.
@@thundergunner4284 theory that the Everett that Virginia met when she was in "Wonderland" with all the special trees was actually her son, but grown up
Okay, ignoring how beautiful and emotional the rest of this short is, there's one thing that stuck out to me. While Virginia is in this place the special tree initially takes her, she describes the trees as extending infinitely in each direction, reversing itself every time, with the branches and stumps connecting onto each other. This might be a stretch, but given the shape of the special tree, it feels like these trees are meant to reflect that of the neurons in our brain. With each of the trees flashes being the neurons firing. To make an even larger stretch, considering that in ALCATRAZATTACK Alcatraz island is shown to be a living cell, it could be possible that these instances make up a larger organism.
I’m gonna be honest I think you’re not only onto something I think this is the best explanation of what the special tree even is since inter dimensional trees just doesn’t make sense but a cosmic brain seems to fit a lot more with all of this only thing I can’t figure out is what is the trees bending?
This is honestly really sad also I realized the reason the first lobotomy failed is probably because her brain was backwards like the rest of her organs
I have a theory. The baby powder is supposed to prevent trees from growing, considering the fact that the "powder" was what formed the barrier between each layer of trees. Maybe if that barrier is destroyed, all the dimmensions linked by the trees will merge.
@@marcoe.3314 the stuff growing on Washington, they were special trees, the Air Force one angel did something and it made the special trees, along with dividing Alcatraz, the angel is getting revenge against America by using all the stuff seen in the series so far, even releasing the liberty lurker
Oh God, now I'm starting to see wonder the Monument Mythos and the Cornerworld series can connect in the future with the whole connected universes thing
@@TobeyFairre7861 yeah because they aren't real and we real life human just ignored them like they aren't real but actually give us about what would happen
Why is no one talking about how Virginia's son is named after Hugh Everett, a real-life physicist who developed the quantum theory of many worlds. Such great attention to details!
My first thought was that it was a play on the word "ever". Like Virginia thought, there's this guy I'm spending literal forever with, I should name him something... EVERett. Idk why, but this makes so much sense to me. That's how a child's mind works. And it makes even more sense with the theory it's her child, and he's been spending his eternity in that plane. The man in the plane of forever, Everett.
Kinda weird to think the kid who wanted to put a star on it got this punishment while the guy who literally attempted to blow it up had nothing happen to him
"Together" almost made me cry. It's Virginia's perfect life, with her friends and parents from one world and her husband and son from the other. But they're all gone, and Virginia has no one left.
this makes rockefellertragedy more depressing because virginia had no idea what she was going to go through. she just wanted to be with her friends and put the teddy bear on the tree she ends up losing everything edit: it was a star not a teddy bear sorry bout that. also notice how the tree told her to come back in 3 years? in rockefellertragedy it said something about it taking 3 years to dig up the tree. hmm
stuff like this makes the sci-fi stuff so much scarier, its so common just to hear "scary thing killed 10000000 people" but seeing the way the special trees ruined this girls life is heartbreaking, and learning there are so many other people being effected by the things in this universe, amazing story telling
It's easy to throw corrupted footage and scary monsters at the viewer, but this specific video is a whole other level of horror. One that actually makes you feel for those affected by the terrors depicted in otherwise somewhat scary or just mundane ways.
It is implied that little Everett is still alive inside the Special Tree’s dimension. The Everett that says “the trees are not trees” is her child, grown up after spending years in the pocket dimension
No horror in this one, but a slight disquiet, and terrible sadness. Especially knowing that at the end some government goons were mashing away at her brain to the point where she could only produce crude, childish paintings of a life she remembered, filled with regret and longing, yearning. Of laughter, of love. The music was a great choice for this one, it really sold that depressing nostalgia towards the end. Top notch.
Spending eternity in a forest full of trees where you're helplessly trapped and alone, transported moment to disjointed moment by flashes of light, rather than actually living with continuity sounds like literal psychological horror to me. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy - not even Putin. Hitler tho for sure
i see a lot of people talking about the death date at the end so im gonna theow in my own two cents i think the death date actually corresponds to when she first hit the floor of the washington monument, and that she was considered dead from there-on out. then, in 2003, she’s found alongside the rest of the people the tree was keeping alive
I just finished Season 1 and watched all of Season 2 and holy crap, this is seriously some of the best horror content I've ever seen. Every detail is accounted for when presenting these episodes and I'm so insanely impressed by just how well edited all these videos are. You've done such a phenomenal job so far! I really hope you have as much fun making these videos as we have watching them.
@@jpogman3217 just watch them in the order posted, its much more fun to realize some of the things that get more clarified the more you watch in the same way that everyone else was shown them.
I know a lot of people say this but I legitimately think the monument mythos and the entire alex kansas channel is some of the best content I've ever seen on youtube, every single video is so well made and creative, it's sad that this isn't even more popular. I don't know if Alex reads these comments, but if he does, I wish to tell you that you deserve every single bit of praise you get for such a creative set of videos full of wonder and mystery. Thank you.
Me too and Alex DOES read the comments and on IG too! I love this shit so much cause it doesn't rely on the basic "analog horror" tropes. He uses alot of cool elements (deleting videos and reuping them different)
"Surely this won't cause any type of paranormal supernatural stuff that will ruin the fuck out of my life completely and alter the universe's relative order"
**Unleashes unimaginable and thousands of years worth of terror and trauma in the span of half a person's lifetime, across so many different dimensions**
You know what the sad part about this story is? It's not even Virginia's fault in the first place, I mean no one could have predicted the Rockefeller Tragedy to happen the way it did, NO ONE could have. It was an innocent action that then turned into a full on butterfly effect. And because of it she is dealt with an unfair hand for the rest of her life and watching it unfold from her perspective is so utterly heartbreaking... I guess the Rockefeller Tragedy is an appropriate title.... people did get hurt... and the trauma left behind.... is probably going to affect the generations of the families that were involved (and beyond with the Washington Monument) for a long, long time.
@Scratchy this is so random but where is your pfp from? this image has been following me around for the past few weeks lmao and i have no idea what it means
Having just had a baby boy of mine, this legit made me cry. I can't imagine the agonizing despair that Leonard went through his wife who was carrying their son didn't come home. I couldn't even begin to fathom the emotions Virginia felt when she realized the mistake she made cost not only her life, but the life of her unborn child that she would never be able to meet. This one truly wrenched my heart.
people are pinning the lobotomy’s relative failure on her organs being reversed but honestly given what a lobotomy *is* i feel like even the wrong part of the brain would have a far more disastrous effect on her. IMO this, along with her date of death being two decades before her re-appearance at the washington monument, goes along with whatever the damn hell was going on with the washington monument in particular. It clearly did *something* to her and the others who’d been “knocked down” by its music, given she was kept conscious and bleeding out for several decades, and she described the others who’d fallen as “almost alive.” I feel like whatever changes the monument did to her also rendered her brain-body dichotomy’s relationship to human consciousness fundamentally different from a humans or at least made her brain-meat a whole lot harder to properly mutilate. also i’m not certain on what reality she was given the lobotomy *in* because it kinda sounded like she made it back to “her” reality? so unless the organ shifting was a product of tree-based “travel” rather than merely a difference of human anatomy between dimensions that doesn’t sound quite right…
The difference in human anomtonomy between dimensions isn't a result of the trees. It's actually just a relatively common trope, at least in story's that deal with dimensional shifting. In my experience, every story that's involved shifting between alternative dimensions that are very similar to the characters own has used the difference of organs as the tell-tale sign that they're from another dimension that's similar yet not the same.
Interesting, tree based travel eh? I have been getting a lot of disclosure as of late to use the trees around me for portals. Still not sure I want to mess with that just yet if this is something similar to that.
@@lego007guym8 Yeah, thats the purpose of the second paragraph. My main issue is people assuming shes still got the brain durability of a normal human after being squashed between dimensions by the indestructible foliage twice, but its always a possibility it was either just regular medical screw-ups or a result specifically attributable to the organ thing (though… again, i got the impression she was lobotomized after being sent *back* which would make her organs the right way around again -or rather that the doctors would be trained with the matching organ layout- but I’m actually pretty sure *I’m* getting something wrong with that) and i’m just reading to much into this lmao
I think another important note is that its 2003, and they tried giving her a lobotomy, which adds to the fjcked up nature of the story as apparently they are still doing labotomies in this world so late.
Everett as the unborn child being considered the 20th Absentee makes so much sense but also breaks my heart so much. this is the first time i cried during a Monument Mythos vid
it kinda makes me feel that there was a reality where the child grew up and started to look for his mother, that disappeared during the time gap. it makes me think he was taken to an universe where he was dead because of her fall.
@dudeist drifter. not to mention that these trees are basically sentient beings. I have a feeling they did the graffiti on Rushmore and that’s where the forest of them currently reside, even though not stated
@dudeist drifter. Or maybe the baby powder is supposed to prevent trees from growing, considering the fact that the "powder" was what formed the barrier between each layer of trees. Maybe if that barrier is destroyed, all the dimmensions linked by the trees will merge.
I would both like to thank the algorithm for presenting me this astonishingly acted and written story while also kindly telling it to f**k off for giving something SO sad. I think my favorite character moment was actually her saying she won't discuss the orphanage. That's POWERFUL, she literally talks about horrific, unimaginable scenes but not the orphanage, like I'm almost speechless in how raw and real that response is.
To me the part that made me sad was the ending. As I was watching it, I read another comment that pointed out “government goons turned her brain into mush, to the point where all she could do was produce childlike drawings of what she could remember” all because of a freak accident she had no control over
Throughout this video I realized something. You have done something that no other videos of your type has done. You have made me care for these characters. When rockefeller died I felt sad for him. And now when Virginia gone through all of this I felt sorry for her and want to help her. Incredible job!
I was wondering why 20 disappeared and only 19 came back. Never thought a found footage horror channel would almost make me cry, but I'm definitely feeling some waterworks right now. I feel so bad for Virginia. She had it so rough.
@@emmym9276 Everett, Virginia's unborn child, is the 20th Washington Absentee. Presumably, Everett was given up and erased from the world in exchange for Virginia's life.
The fact that Lobotomies exist in 2003 astounds me. Instead of it being around the 1950s, with the lack of technological advancements, they probably still stuck to these practices for damage control amongst those who experienced the anomalies.
@@disnothsi2218 In the Deanverse, she was announced legally dead at 1980 after her trip to the Washington Monument. At around 13:51 of the video, she went to our Universe around 2003.
My heart goes out to this fictitious character. Those paintings at the end, although childish, are crushing in the context of the series. Virginia deserved that right life.
man ngl I’m surprised at the amount of growth this channel has received in more recent times, feels like a few months ago Alex Kansas had 10K and yet here we are now
this series is phenomenal, the production value and the lore and the world building and the general creepiness is just… wow. it’s unbelievable that this hasn’t blown up yet. it’s just far superior to the majority of analog horror series on youtube (though it’s limiting to call it just that). thank you so much for this!
That theory is bullshit considering she also named the guy she met in wonderland Everett, she DID NOT get his actual name and not only that but he is completely human and the actual Everett is not.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 it's destiny man, what other reason would a random mf take care of a random girl, and since he didn't know Virginia named her it would make sense
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 what abt the part where he says "anyone could be her"? seems like hes searching for someone, but all he knows abt them is that theyd come through wonderland at some point
In some horrible sense, I was actually relieved when I heard she had a second lobotomy. Imagine the guilt she constantly lived with for ruining the lives of her friends, for losing the man she loved + her baby all just to get back home and find out that her parents are dead. Not to mention the trauma she must feel for having to wander through some indescribable horror for years to stumble across alternate worlds where she can never feel quite at home. At least in her final moments, it seems like she was happy, drawing herself smiling and reunited with everyone she loved. Lobotomy is a terrible thing, but I imagine living with the constant guilt and trauma all your life would be even worse. In some strange way the lobotomy was the best thing to happen to her
"Everett Arnoldson, commonly referred to as the 20th Washington Absentee, is a humanoid creature that is purported to inhabit the forests of the Washington Zone." WHAT
I hope this helps as Other theories in the comments are suggesting that from this line, is that Virginia's son Everett lives in the wonderland among the other special tress that she mentioned. It's even been assumed that the Everett she met has a child is the same person, her son, only now he is older and guides her through the wonderland. I am thinking He is not fully human because the parents are from different universes as well as being stuck in the wonderland must have changed him as well.
To me the "Special tree" seems more like a reference to branches of the tree of life found in most cultures. The "Trees" are banches that both hold up and extend into the realities they are connected to, and as such the branches connect to other realms/realities as well, and shaking one branch causes many do to so, resaulting in things like the "special tree incident" These shakings are probably why this world seems so weird, as the interview said the line between each row of trees (what I am taking as multiple relams/realities) is very thin, so the shaking of the 'trees' disturbs these thin barriers, letting all sorts of odd things happen that just shouldn't. Also this video implies some kind of infinite time loop, with a figure looking like one that tried to climb the trees while (what im calling) inbetween realms. I dont know how it works, as it seems Virginia is stuck in a time loop herself, and not the world around her, yet it seems outside viewers are capable of noticing this time loop (the government starting to follow her), but the loops are not constant and only seem to begin when she goes near one of the 'trees'. Is it possible the 'trees' are trying to keep the girl away so that it does not get shaken again or to prevent another clashing of realms? Its obvious that Virginia is not belonging to her world, with her able to perceive other realms and possibly even contact it, meaning she is bridging the thin layer between realities. almost seems as if the 'trees' or the world itself is trying to correct this mistake, but is unable to self actualize. Kind of like a error in a printer, now the world is being printed wrong and in broken bits. Came back to edit this in- What if the trees are people? Here me out here. They seem sentient, the 'other world' or inbetween the people that tried to climb them would be morphed into being as long as the trees, and these being were later seen talking to Virginia and it seemingly had the power of the tree, the trees seem to sometimes 'speak' in a way and have a untirely unusual bark (the way its described honestly kind of sounds like very stretched and dried leather in a way) thats possibly human skin, The trees are seemingly fully flexible and can seemingly cause certain events or react to certain things at will (or atleast at the behest of another force), and finally Virginia seems speculative while at the same time suggesting that along with those who are stretched to match the 'tree' (maybe the trees take people as a form of bark?) Are those who are turned into the fine layer of dust between rows of 'trees' This would help explain why the smell of the dust is at the same events where the 'trees'/their branches pop up, its all essentially made up of the same thing coming from the same place. For every question there may be a answer to, a thousand more pop up.
With you saying the trees could be people, first look at the structure. They sing like humans, reach out with an arm and hand like a human, bend over like a human, and shake more by themselves like humans. Not to mention what happened to the climbers. Notice how they look awfully "branchy"?
The trees are most definitely people...right?? Evey time I think I am getting a grip on what's happening I watch the next video & am totally lost again lol...cant wait to finish season 2 so I can go watch Nexpo break it down for me
I think I have a good timeline… 1921: Virginia is born December of 1934: Virginia attempts to put the ornament/bear on the special tree, sending her to another dimension, and her parents abandoning her, forcing her to go to an orphanage 1939: Virginia leaves the orphanage and finds her parents separated, she goes to the Rockefeller Center for an answer from the tree, who tells her to come back in three years 1942, 1945, 1948: Virginia comes back to the tree every three years 1948: Virginia meets Leonard. They fall in love, and make Everett. She trades the unborn for a chance to go home. 1974: Virginia returns from her personal hell, and is given a lobotomy, which fails 1977: Virginia gets another lobotomy. After this, she never speaks again 1978: Virginia begins drawing in the last years of her life 1980: Virginia dies age 59 August 17, 2003: Virginia’s perfectly intact body is found at the Washington Monument There you go.
Currently identified video discrepancies* I have been able to find: 0:28 - 0:33 The other parent seem to be crudely drawn, which is somewhat reasonable seeing as the drawings are childish, but the foster parents depiction does not look human at all. 2:15 The mention of baby power has been made a few times, most noticeably in Rushmore revenge. 2:24 Virginia states that there are lots of people and one says the trees are not trees. While the Washington wormhole is relevant here, what's interesting is that in Rockefeller tragedy this line is briefly seen in the subtitles but is redacted for an unexplained reason, yet here it goes into full detail. Who or what is being allowed access to such sensitive information? Or rather, Why is this more sensitive than anything else up to this point? 4:30 These "Climbers" seem to vaguely resemble what little of Virginia's foster parents we can see. Something to note is that from the beginning up to this point, Virginia made sure to give her friends faces, then left them blank, then gave them scribbles for faces. In fact, almost everyone except for Everett seems to have no recognizable features other than Virginia. They are just blank outlines. 5:51 when you think about the previous information, there is something about the orphanage that must have happened involving the tree things. 6:34 When Virginia visits the tree on the Rockefeller tower, it does resemble a woman, and she appears to visit three times, possibly once a year. In Rockefeller tragedy, we can see a bolt of lighting emitting from the tree. What this means in relation to this video is up for debate. 8:45 What exactly Lennard is protecting her from is not stated, but given the previous information, it may be the climbers or the government itself. 10:23 This relates to Washington Wormhole's Washington Standard Operation. Interestingly, it would seem that the bodies and mechanisms were indeed serving a purpose relating to the disappearances, being a sort of "Fertilizer" for the tree. Who or what set this up is unknown, but seeing the trees are capable of apparently influencing people, it wouldn't be hard to believe the purpose of the monument WAS to do this exact thing. On a side note, this might have also been the purpose of the Giza towers? 12:07 If the Washington Wormholes disapearees are indeed the people who Virginia was with, that would explain the number going from 20 people to 19. Little Everette was 20. If he is the same Everette from earlier, he is searching for his mother, and may possibly be what Lennard was trying to protect her from. This has its own flaws, as while Maize states he is the 20th and inhabits the forest of the Washington zone, it would not explain how who ever found and documented this is aware of this, and why there is almost no mention of a forest of trees in any other video, let alone why they seem to be inactive. 13:33 Giza was also seen to have numerous trees rise out of the ground. Interestingly, this would imply that the mothership in Starry Sphinx possibly directly caused all the trees to start rising, not just in Egypt, but around the world. 13:54 The supposed date when she returns is also the same year the monument opens a side door to let something in/out, and the tree warps the tower to generate lightning. 14:26 Throughout the video, there is barley anything happening in the background, but here you can faintly hear the sound of what seems to be a vehicle nearby. However, based on what she is saying, it is possible that since she is backwards, not only was the lobotomy mentioned in the beginning not being effective as her biology was backwards, but it was part of a larger plan to keep her from doing something. She says for someone to remember her, implying that whoever it is that is trying to silence her is not only trying to get her to forget everything, but to get people to forget her as well. 14:55 Now, in the paintings of the right life, people have faces again. Everyone looks happy in all of them, but in together Virginia seems to be pondering. This might just be me though. 15:45 She is stated to have died in 1980 at the age of 59. She says the date was around or later than 2003 earlier. This could imply one of two things; One being that Virginia was indeed forgotten and had all of her life erased by whatever is trying to keep her silent by altering her death statement, or two; The tree, when not conducting lightning, in addition to sending you to the forest, also alters time and space to replace bodies with dead ones at a later date in time. There may be other explanations, but that's what makes sense to me based on what I have observed. What do you think? *Video Discrepancies: A personal term I use to refer to when, in analog horror type series, something happens that does not belong or should be with the presented content. IE Local 58's emergency broadcast hoax, Gemini Home entertainment's Games for children's section on feeding the woods, Monument Mythos Crown canyon's canyon crown appearance, etc.
Theory: The government made those mechanism to take back people, because they said that everyone that she knew were dead and that she was in 2003 so she time traveled to her original timeline but to the future, the 1980 dead might be false Maybe the maizething(? Is the son of Virginia, somehow it didn't died hahaha
@@Yungwolfo nope the air force one angel were the men from WW1 that shot down a crown blimp of Germany with a use of those energy laser weapon ig. They turned into mushed blood but somehow merged together into a single organism, thus taking their revenge to kill John D. Rockefeller.
There's a lot to unpack in this video and a lot of connections to many other videos and new information too. The ending is a direct connection with the ending of the Washington Wormhole video. But I just wanna point out how good of a job the narrator does when retelling these events. The intonation, the pace, the appropriate emotion, it's perfect. She's a grown woman but the way she tells the story to me makes it sound like she's still a child, at least mentally, and that makes all these events so much more sad and horrible to me.
Remember that there is now the Washington zone. Special trees all around Washington DC so I presume that DC is now uninhabitable. Same with the area around the Sphinx and Mount Rushmore. The Alcatraz Zone has reached Texas and Canyoncrawlers roam the Grand Canyon. And humanity is supposed to be a true force of mass destruction?
Given that Canyongalans where made because the US gave a sentient statue a magic sword and a hitlist,the Alcatraz Zone was caused by the island being turned into a rapidly replicating tumor by radiation treatments. I’d reckon combine that with climate change and Mazie’s fuckery we’d qualify,at least insofar as we have a tendency to slam our collective dicks in the car door with anomalies.
@@drian91800 well yeah his parents have opposite organs to each other, along with the fact they're from different dimensions and the mother has been through countless layers of oblivion
So, the version of Everett she was with who took care of her was actually her own son? So, that explains what he meant by the phrase "you could be her. anyone could be her". Imagine how tired Everett must've been to have been there his whole life.
does this mean 20 (or 21?) people experience the same hell as Virgina, but instead of losing a fetus, they lost their own life, and when the music blared, the rest was history?
The tree told Virginia that she'd have to trade one life for her own. To me I thought that meant that she needed to bring someone to sacrifice to save her life. This would be similar to how the grand canyon guardians work where people are allowed to survive in exchange for bringing more people to die. I don't understand why Virginia didn't understand that and just kept going back alone, but it was only when she came with the baby that the tree told her what to do. It would seem obvious what was going to happen to the baby but that's only because we have the additional context that she wouldn't have had. Given all that I would think that the other 18 people in the monument would have been people who were "traded" to the tree by someone else for something that they wanted.
@@corysmith9975 keep in mind, i think most of the finer details of her narration are muddled because she's already gone through a lobotomy at this point. She would've probably fleshed out the whole meeting Leonard and the talking Rockefeller tree ordeal better if she had all her mental faculties in working order.
@@corysmith9975 My interpretation, and since these Trees seem to be quite fucking cruel, is that "trade one life for your own" literally meant trading realities. To the Trees, a person's reality IS their "life"; Virginia was offered a chance to swap her current life with her boyfriend and child for her previous life back in the other/our reality. That said, it doesn't explain why the Tree only helped when she was pregnant, but nor does your interpretation explain why 18 other people would willingly go into the Washington monument just because their friend asked. I'm assuming, based on the weird basket/external winch that in the other reality, there is no observation platform. (The real monument just has a regular elevator inside and on the top floor are windows looking out over DC).
The horror of losing everyone and everything you ever cared about, even your own identity. The drawings at the end choked me up and reminded me of the way some dementia patients will draw scenes from memories they don't fully comprehend anymore but know meant something to them. Just utterly gutting.
The Virginia who died in 1980 was the MM Virginia, who got mind swapped with the Virginia from our world. That means MM Virginia had our world’s Virginia’s baby Everett, hence the mentioning of Virginia’s son as if he were already born. Our world’s Virginia laid crying at the bottom of the Monument, while MM Virginia left and had Everett.
@@thejbo777 Yes, as in both Virginias travelled to the monument at the same time, fell from the elevator at the same time, and travelled between realities. That's what that entire bit about "leaving" her body and "moving through the ground" meant.
I think the goverment lie to her as a excuse for the lobotomy Think about it, they are behind of more worse atrocities like the LIBERTYLURKER and LINCOLNLOOKER
1980 is when she fell in the washington monument and was transported back to her own dimension. Who knows how long that took. And she says she lay in the monument for what felt like years. Maybe the 1980 death declaration is from the bizarro universe she was in
The Virginias were transported to alternate dimensions through the rockefeller tree, and then this one supposedly returned to her own world again, through the washington monument tree This video is from the monument mythos universe, and so the world where this testimony was given, and where "Everett" is now, and where Virginia died in 1980, are also in that same universe This could be a few things, and it's confusing to try and piece together, but I don't think the Virginia that gave this testimony is the one that lived in the MM universe, but was channeled into her mind after the 'failed' lobotomy
the flashing between realities part is the exact thought loop I got caught in on acid once. I thought every new thought I had was a new universe and it would go on forever and I was oscillating between ecstasy and sheer terror at this revelation. I thought it had to be hell
Imagine if this whole thing ends with Alex saying that he’s sending all these tapes and videos to somewhere the government will never find, but everyone will be able to see it, and he sends them through a tree to our world
“They said they were going to fix me” Perhaps in the Dean rehabilitation buildings? Also a theory, When Dean said “Let’s bring them back!” Perhaps he wasn’t just referring to just the troops... but also people like Virginia who were in the tree field
The fact that Virginia kept away from telling her memories at the orphanage implies that beyond incomprehensible phenomena and perplexing events that changed her and the life of everybody around forever, human experience is still a different kind of evil considering that Virginia most likely was desolated from the "Normal" people of that alternate universe. The feels, man.
There's a lot of analog horror out there of various qualities but you've taken it to another level. You're not just giving us an alternate reality but you're filling in the gaps about what exactly IS alternate about that reality. And, on top of that, you're giving us actual characters we can empathize with. This one is especially heartbreaking because horror movies are full of people making idiotic decisions but here we have Virginia who did something perfectly innocent and something any of us could have done and it shattered her life, and the lives of many others. Really, really well done, and this is one I've come to look forward to updates from.
So, looking back at this after ALCATRAZ ALWAYS, it’s heavily implied that one of the creatures (either the debate demon or the monument monster) became Tree and Serpent from MONUMENTMYTHOLOGY. Now, since one of these creatures turned into Tree, and Tree is the entity that talks to Virginia, it is possible that Modern Day Virginia (who turned into the Debate Demon) talked to herself from another universe. It could also just be Walt Disney (who I think is the Monument Monster) tho, idk.
THE AF1 ANGEL IS 100% THE BOYS FROM THE ORPHANAGE! THEY WERE TO "RETURN HOME" AFTER THE PYRAMID INCIDENT BUT THEY ALL REMEMBERED THE TREE AND ROCKERFELLER HOLY FUCK
@@Yungwolfo Then why was the other guy named "Allan D Arnoldson" was on the Pyramids during WW1 that shot with the men and then emerged into a air force one angel, and is born in the year 1893?
This wasn't scary, that was just exceptionally depressing. It's not horror, it's tragedy in a world where interdimensional disasters are as common as natural one's. Just very very sad.
It seems that the trees cause some sort of corruption to different dimensions, and take them over. Virginia likely was witnessing the beginning of this when she was taken in the helicopters. It could also be what's happening towards the end of Stary Sphynx
I wonder if 1980 and the Maize PC incident was a preview of that… and also if the Great Horned Serpent or the Alcatraz colossal single-celled organism had anything to do with it.
@@DARTHNECRION Great Horned Serpent? I think I may have missed that one. Update, rewatched the Maize video and remember it now, never actually understood it was supposed to be an actual creature in universe.
Ok so, I'll try to piece together what exactly happened to Virginia, the one that we get the story from. I'll refer to the Virginia from the Nixonverse as VA and the one from the Deanverse as VB. VA and VB go to Rockefeller center to hang up an ornament on the (special) Christmas tree, they then touch the tip VA spends a long time in Wonderland and meets someone named Everett VA is put into an orphanage until she turns 18 and leaves. VA goes to the Washington monument at 27, pregnant with Leonard Morlin's child who she calls Everett, and when she's dropped her mind/soul eventually enters VB's body, with the baby seemingly disappearing. VB's mind enters VA's body and goes on to possibly reunite with Leonard, then they have two children in the DV, Maya and Nathaniel, then dies naturally in 1980. One of her children may be the baby VA had with Leonard, or maybe that baby just disappeared. VA is teleported out of the Washington Monument in 2003 with Everett still missing, then is lobotomized and recounts her life. Notes: 1- Why was VA lobotomized in 2003? That seems too cruel for the Nixonverse but right in line with the Deanverse, even though she seemingly returned to her home dimension even if it was in the body of VB. Is it even possible to cross the dimensions if your copy has already died/doesn't exist anymore? Possibly she lay in VB's body for many years, before being teleported back into the DV and through time, like the Washington copy showing up in the Delaware River in 1976 while the original version was turned into the Horned Serpent, both in the DV. 2- What happened to the baby Everett? Did he eventually grow up as one of VB's kids, or was he lost to Wonderland and spent his entire life there, before managing to meet his mother when she first crossed over?
I'm thinking she was reported dead in 1980, then when she was found near the monument in 2003 it was kept a secret. So her death is officially 1980 as far as anyone outside of the government knows.
THIS ONE IS BY FAR MY FAVORITE This story was so sad i cried the first AND second time watching it. Ive never experienced horror that made me so uncomfortably sad, that i didnt need to be scared to know i will not be able to sleep at night
So, correct me if I’m wrong but, here’s my interpretation: SPOILERS: -The man in the woods is fully grown Little Everett. -‘Wonderland’ has been released, and Trees are starting to cover Egypt -The tree is a person? Or at least has a conciousness
