For all those talking about united having players missing. Liverpool were missing Alison, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Van Dyke, Robertson, Mac Alister, Szloboszlai, Gakpo, Diaz, Nunez.
those are all positives for Liverpool that they did not play, Liverpool are stronger without them. Specially Van Dyke and Alexander - Arnold missing strengthens them
Look what juventus did they left the players at home and didn’t take them on their tour who they don’t see in their plans why couldn’t we have done that??
Bit of a overreaction this is only a friendly with a mix of 1st -4th tier players. This doesn't define the outlook of the season. A few of the players will be needed this year. Sancho for sure, not as a starter. But services will be needed.
Eriksen is actually good if you play him in the correct position was one of the strongest at the Euros for Denmark and the strongest of all if you look at all the matches.
The players that liverpool have missing is scary. Lots of top talent still to come back for liverpool including macallister and nunez and trent and van dijk etc
As crazy as this sounds after beating United 3-0 i think Liverpool didn't look right, i think it was because Konate looked slow / rusty and Van Der Berg only came on in the second half when Slot started rotating the kids in. Might be Van Der Berg or Szobo missing or maybe they have just been run a bit too much in the heat but they didn't press or hunt in numbers like they did against Arsenal.
No way to know if the manager is an issue at this stage, I would love to discover that Ten Hag is the worst manager of all time, simply because that would mean we have cleared out and got players that can play how he wants to play, if he then isl failing then ok. Currently there is no way to know. In fact all we do know is he has managed to win a couple of cup competitions using the deadwood.
The same players are still playing for the team from previous season we can’t expect different results. Also don’t excuse Rashford from the list of players u call out and ask to be sold every video he is part of the problem and need to go.
@@andrewoconnell8506are you ok these are the same players that got you 8th place just because you add new players does not mean the culture there has changed you have to get rid of the diva selfish culture before you can compete
@@Supafly621 That is why I do not understand this at all. Even those people had limited knowledge of professional football industry, but overall they are still professional bankers or business persons, how do anyone who has any common knowledge of business will giving out contracts like that? For example, Antony was on 20k a week on Ajax, no one else wanted him back then, he desperately wanted to come to MU, why on earth gave out a 200k week wage??? You told me if MU gave Antony something like 8 or 10k/ week he was not going to come? It does not make any scenes at any level. And yet the club was doing it over and over again, do those MU managers got some kind of commission back from the contract they gave out? otherwise there is no logical reason to all those non-sense wages.
I've just watched Hansi Flick (The guy Mark said he's just another Ten Hag) Coach a Team full of Academy players and in less than a Month they're playing amazing football against Champions League winners. We saw Unai Emery takeover from Gerrard and without any signings he completely transformed Aston Villa look at them now, Xabi Alonso didn't need World class players to make Bayer Leverkusen a Tiki Taka machine and almost go the whole season unbeaten.. Y'all can chose to ignore or not admit it but the truth is Ten Hag cannot take all blame but he definitely ain't a good Coach at least not for Man UTD. Manchester United has International players, we have prodigies like Mainoo and Garnacho, we have stats merchants like Bruno, we have UCL winners (Casemiro) Varane too last season.. Why haven't we seen anything like what does Ten Hag do in training sessions!??
Exactly . The truth hurts . A good manager can turn things around . ETH is not good enough . excuses of injuries to the team rendered them underperformed but which team did not have injuries !
The biggest difference is that Liverpool has Arne Slot, who is not only a very clever manager but also an very intelligent person as well. We have only EtH....
This feels already like it's going to be another long season. Onana,Casemiro,Antony and Eriksen are all Ten Hag signings mind you, that are also deadwood.
Injuries happen to every team, liverpool has more than their fair share of them. Every damn season. It's how you manage the whole squad that shows how good you are.
Exactly. This is my problem with Mark. Mount, Casemiro, Eriksen, Malacia, Antony are all Ten hag signings and mark wants the manager to get rid of all of them. I get getting rid of other players he didn’t buy first but that’s a big worry when a manager has to replace almost half the players he’s bought already
Ten hag should have been replaced look at the buzz Arne slot has created and a clear style of play already. Ten hag is still looking like he has no clear style of play still and out of ideas at times
And Mark said one of the main reasons to keep Ten Hag was he would get rid but hardly anyone has gone and the injuries are back it’s gonna be a long season
@@mrtgaming4539 ten Hag can't do it on his own, last season he wanted to get rid of Maguire to bring in Kim min jae, Maguire stayed. He wanted Mctominay sold for Rabiot, and it seems as if both of them will stay again. Makes no sense, United is too respectful to mediocre players. Thiago Motta and Juventus have told excess players to basically fxxx off and find a club, why don't united do that?
Who is going to score the goals for United? Bloody Awful yet again against Liverpool! A bad tour last summer lead to 4 defeats by the end of September. 4th place was already lost with 4 early defeats.. What chance for this season not being the same, or much worse? Spending 90 million on two young players is a big risk. Goldbridge is right about some of the players who need selling. United definitely need a forward and a center half this week Seemed to me Ten Hag pulled Rashford at half time because he plans on having him lead the non existent forward line against City. Hopefully on the flight back to Manchester the United players and coaches will be forced to watch the Liverpool game on repeat for the whole journey. Should Ten Hag be in the job? How long ca he last if United have lost 4 games again by the end of September.
I think United got let off the hook in the first half by Konate looking well off the pace, between Konate and Szobo missing (maybe the work load and heat had an effect too??) Liverpool looked slow compared to the Arsenal game.
Arsenal was in the exact same situation a few years ago. How did arsenal deal with it? Rip up contract after contract after contract is how. They had so much shite on stupid wages nobody wanted them. The glazers won't do this tho so your screwed
Regardless of who it was, what other RB do we have that’s available genius? Young scanlon the only I can see. But what’s wrong with playing AWB if he’s the only one available?
Every year we say this and the deadwood are still here Mark is just repeating the same old story getting tedious now as nothing looks like it is going to change
@@ziatti7akadanny275 then it must be that Dortmund starting eleven were all better than United's??? What a baseless opinion. Sancho ain't good enough, Just a spoilt brat
@@ziatti7akadanny275 what has Sancho ever done in his football career to be given this much grace? He's done nothing at United and this is his 4th season
We are not getting injuries because of the fitness department. The reason we get injuries is because of how we are playing. City does not play like we do. The pace at which we run up and down the pitch is insanity. We try to press high and get the ball back quickly and score as quickly as possible. We lose the ball and then need to sprint back because we do not hold our shape and because of the type of defenders we have at our disposal. Then if we win the ball back we force it baack up the pitch trying to score as quickly as we can on the counter. There is no holding onto pocession to give the team time to breathe. All the top teams keep pocession until they can make a chance for themselves. There is purpose to their play where as with us we try to do things at such pace that we do not get time to think. Also we get gassed from doing sprints up and down the pitch every play, causing us to misplace passes and pick up injuries. Ten hag needs to change that about his game plan. Our press was good in the first half but everytime we win the ball back we try this counter attack bs instead of recycling pocession and taking our time to put the ball in the back of the net.
@@adenihunadewale9214 It is not difficult, it requires clear instruction. Pep will not play you if you do not adhere to his understanding of football. If there is no attempt this season to hold onto the ball and create purposful and clinical attacking football then Ten Hag needs to answer for that.
It’s hypercritical really. He’s saying we are heading into the season with the same dross however he wanted to stand by ETH. Can’t have it both ways unfortunately
Mark has so much hatred for our fitness department he’s even resorted to blaming them for ETH team selections “what are we doing playing a player for 90 minutes we’re trying to sell to West Ham - it’s baffling what’s going on with our fitness department” like bro what has that got to do with the fitness department??😂
Just face it mark the only thing jim had control over was setting up the structure from the ceo an below.. Glazers are still in control of the transfer window.
How would anyone with an ounce of sense have bought Onana in the first place….worst goalkeeper in man United s history….hardly good enough for second division clubs……open your eyes man United board!!
We need to sell players 1rst which I'd the only conclusion I can come to why ETH is playing them, but unfortunately they're just bringing there prices dwn with performances like these.
We played fairly well, Liverpool were just more clinical. People wanting half the team out because they're not world class, who do you replace them with?
It's the same as last year...things will get better when all the exits and new players joining happen.. We will.struggle to maintain 8th position.if it doesn't happen.
Do you like repeating the same thing? How realistic did you think it is that we were going to sell six players in one window. It's the very unrealistic hope that kills
the thing is... our core players are themselves not that good. We'll have to wait at least 2-3 more years before the team is mostly changed. Too many bad players is the reason we can't perform well. Let's be honest.. we know the quality is not that great compared to the likes of city.. liverpool.. arsenal... even Chelsea will surpass us
We were so bad. Rashford is lacklustre, Sancho cant pass or receive without giving the ball away, no striker, no effort and our defence is a disaster. Collier looked ok in midfield but other than that we will be 8th again this season or lower
We sold Johnny Evans because he’s past his best, he helps Leicester city get relegated and he’s rewarded with a return to Manchester United at his age. He’s needs a running stick 😅
@@proplayaa1Ten hag has a better head to head because they’ve only played each other like 4 times, it isn’t that impressive. Klopp also has a 7-0 win over him
Collier is nowhere near ready, mate he couldn’t control the ball, felt like I was watching Mctominay regen, hopefully it was just a bad game but my goodness a 6 ? More like a 3
Bring dross in on big contracts and then cry because they won't leave to clubs offering a lot less in wages. Get real and stop blaming the players who are rightly protecting their own interests, Eric The Hag hasn't got a clue how to use the squad he has.
We must let go of Evans, Ericksen, Linderlof, AWB, Rashford before the season starts if we're serious. Why would we seriously need a back up in the calibre of Evans! I don't know why his contract was even extended
Can’t believe mount is on excess £250k per week, £200k for Antony and £350k for casemiro who can’t stay on his feet… only United could pull this off in world football..long may it continue 😂😂😂😂
Goldbridge already making excuses for this season, to protect Ten Hag. Zero accountability for the half a billion dollar man, it's all the owner's fault.
Am i the only one here who watched the game last night? we were much the better team for the first half, and it was only our 3rd choice defence that was the issue. Front 6 had liverpool on the ropes.
if you are one of these who think think Rashford will be back scoring 30 or 40 goals this season you're fools. Rashford will go back to the same style as last season he's greedy and hold the ball to long. I feel this summer would have been a good time to chase in on him infact i think he would have enjoyed his football somewhere new. As for Sanco like Anthony just not good enough .
Prior to De Ligt, we need a wide channel defender. Todibo is available for £20m but we can't touch him & Branthwaite is unaffordable at £70m. Thanks u Glazers for giving Casemiro £350k a week, even Saudi can't afford him. Antony(£200k/week), Maguire(£190k/week) & Lindelof(£120k/week) unsellable.