Watch: Parents of Oxford school shooter Ethan Crumbley in court for trial 

right exactly it's imperative that the parents be found guilty and sent to prison. watch things change in a hurry.

And most don't gift them (unsecured) guns.

So are you in favor of charging black parents whos kids go out and shoot up neighborhoods? Or just the yt ones?

Defense lawyer: "Mrs. Crumbley found the drawing her son had made about how to best shoot a person to death with his gun. She immediately texted her husband EMERGENCY and left work to go straight to the school. She got a meeting with the principal and a student counsellor, and they all talked to the shooter about their concerns with him wanting to shoot people to death with his gun. The shooter said the drawing was fake and he didn't want to shoot people with his gun." Also defense lawyer thirty seconds later: "When the shooter started shooting people at school with his gun, Mrs. Crumbley had no idea what was happening. It wasn't anywhere on her radar that it could be her son shooting people with his gun."

She couldn't even get that right

Man oh man- what a mess.

Yeah. I’m thinking this might be the defense attorney first jury trial or something. It’s awful. I feel inadequate counsel could be a reason for appeal. EDIT…..I’m still watching. The defense just gets worse. “Your honor, may we approach” (judge clearly thinking..l.”what now?!”)….”ummmm, …..ok”. Is the defense attorney a public defender? She can’t possibly be in private practice, can she?

What a child

She looks awful.

Definitely

Coming to say the same thing….dont even look like her

Please this defense attorney is far worse than prosecutors.

@simpinainteasyRHEC call who? the judge is right there and its her courtroom

I think you mean "leading the witness " or asking leading questions instead of "coaching". It is the opposing counsel's job to object by standing and saying "Objection, your honor. Counsel is leading the witness." Then the judge will rule on the objection and have the attorney either withdraw or re-word the question or leave it in the record. The defense probably does not care about this testimony and does not want to prolong it. It is already a part of the basics of the case and will not affect whether the defendant is guilty. Trial strategy.

TF are you talking about lol?

I agree, the prosecution was just really... sloppy? They kept asking very obvious hearsay and speculating questions and then arguing when it was objected, even though the questions made weak points anyway. Good lawyers know to how to pick their battles and move on quickly. That's not to say the defense was better; that opening statement was laughably stupid, and at one point, the lawyer even had a Liar Liar moment of "I object because it's devastating to my case!"

Omg you're right!!!!! Of course she is! She's a joke.

This defense attorney defends sex offenders....

Also this trial hasn't even mentioned the part of if the gun was locked and he stole it or if it was unlocked and available to him. So don't say she should've followed the law when you don't know if she did or not. I'm thinking she IS negligent, but like they told the jury, I will wait to see all the proof from both sides before I come to a conclusion of what when where how why and who's at fault.

Edit: I have not watched this entire video yet. I am 2/3 of the way through, so maybe they did mention if the gun was locked or not.

@@RhondaPhillips-o2p ……I think it’s hypothesized that James kept it in a small shoebox size gun safe but never changed the combination from 000.Ethan took the gun from the gun safe that morning he went to school. The gun safe was found open and on his bed.

​@@RhondaPhillips-o2pthe gun and ammo WERE NOT LOCKED. That has been a fact in this case since day one. Also, it is illegal to buy a gun for a minor in MI.

@@ashleypg1708 no it is not illegal in Michigan to buy a minor a gun. My dad has bought my brother guns since he was 14 to use when they go deer hunting

She said she wasn't crying, sounds like Karen was just Karening like normal

😂, Sammy you're giving away our age. 😂

🤣😂@@shadymistkennel

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I thought it was just me. The opening statement, sobbing, “is Jennifer Crumbleys name anywhere on that form?” and just……wow.

Unorganized and stressed lol

Yeah, great point. This judge is ridiculous.

yes and in our hands and feet and chin.....

Came here looking for this comment. She’s almost unrecognizable. wow Although i don’t feel bad for her.

@@Whitey2716 yeah I don’t either and watching the interrogation today. She was on her phone the whole time she don’t give a shit.

I mean if 18 is a kid

Its not about 18 or 15 its about gun ,why a student need a gun ,for wat he is scared of, no matter wat security America is well off in every aspect from social security to financial security, several NGO are running to help people in any ways ,why do people need gun when a cop comes just with a single dial at your doorstep ,there is no doubt about America security system it is efficient

I didn't think that there son had a license the gun was bought by parents and given as a gift but even when kids aren't given a gun by parents if the want one they find ways of getting them on the street or from friends but again if parents have guns they need to make sure that their kids can't get to them anyway at .I don't think that these parents did that and they didn't have any sense of their kid having any issues in which there were signs of and they should have noticed and had them addressed! This is so sad! 😢😢from AKRON, OHIO

He didn't have a license. He was 15. And the licensed parent had a legal obligation to properly secure the weapon so that a 15 y/o couldn't get a hold of. Let alone a mentally disturbed one. The parents are liable. Don't bring gun laws into this. They broke gun laws already in place for safety.

No they don’t, only if the parents acknowledged the child’s behavior and encouraged it

Do u comprehend what's going on

Parents of minor children are legally responsible for them and their actions. They neglected to do that by ignoring their duty to parent their child AND supplied their minor child, who was having a mental crisis, with a weapon that they knew could cause death. That's gross negligence that resulted in death which is the legal definition of involuntary manslaughter.

You should get informed about this case. These parents refused to take him home that morning. He walked out of the meeting and killed 4 kids. They are absolutely guilty.

When they buy their 15 year old a 9mm and blatantly ignore all the red flags they are responsible.

wtf??? who cares about her weight? mind your own business.

It’s not a gun case at all it is a parental neglect and abuse case

THIS country doesn't hav balls enough to ban assault rifles. The only place they belong is in a war, but anyone can get a gun at any time. The is the problem!!

There are already gun laws in place that a licensed gun owner is responsible for properly securing the weapon. They broke that law. Add in the negligence of knowing their son was mentally ill and not only left the gun unsecured, but actually gave him a gun as a present. They are liable. We don't need stricter gun laws. We need them to be enforced when they are broken.

@@shanks4391 I think there's a difference between strict and common sense. People seem to confuse gun safety laws with somehow violating 2nd amendment. The sale of lawn darts was banned in our country because of all the accidental deaths. But loads of accidental shootings, didn't even result in requiring companies to make their weapons child resistant.

@@MrDuane-lr8dm I'm just saying that in this case stricter gun laws wouldn't have made a difference because they went against both gun safety laws and common sense. The same reason stricter gun laws have no effect on criminals who aren't following gun laws anyway. I think you and I are actually on the same page.