@@kitt080863 Yeah, you're absolutely right. I threw my Nemo Kunai up in an alpine hut here in Victoria, earlier in the year, once I saw the size of the spiders lurking around. Frickin' huge! I can deal with Huntsman's fine, but not on my face whilst i'm sleeping. I just waited until there was no sign of anyone showing up.
The Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2 has been a dream. I even use it car camping as my go-to tent because of how compactable and easy to set up/tear down it is. It was pricey but worth every single penny.
Own the BA Copper Spur SL2 and it is IMHO the best Three Season tent out atm. I guided for seven years and this tent held up in multiple day rain, light snow, and wind gusts to 45mph. Zippers can be finicky but otherwise dry and stable at around 3 lbs with ground cloth made from Tyvek house wrap. Thanks again for the good content!
Greetings from Norway. Thanks Dan, short and informative. However, I do understand that this video is most likely aimed at the US/American market as tents with "pitch inner first" is most common/popular over there. On the other hand, "Pitch outer first" is very popular over here in Europe. Probably because of traditions, but also weather conditions we face over here, especially in Scandinavia. Outer pitch first means that the setup process is "all in one", and the inner stays dry. So, I must say I missed one tent from this segment, or at least that you mention it. On a side note, all tents need to be staked out to get the intended shape, and of course to work properly.
What tent are you using? I Need to get a new tent and live in Sweden, would like to have a real double wall tent. I was Bike packing, stopped at Lidl , didn't tip the" door woman," when I came back out my tent and sleeping bag were gone.
You got one honest informative channels on the tube i put you next to the out door gear review i like the fact if you dont know something you go the extra mile to find out like they do. Lg northern canada
I use Hillenberg tents. I still own MSR, N.F. and several other tents because i have been backpacking since the 1970s but the Hillenbergs tents are best tents i have ever used.
I'm using an X-mid 2p. Double walled trekking pole tent, its been great so far. Looking forward to trying to winter camp with it to see how it holds up.
@@jscul I moved from a freestanding tent my parents bought me when I was a teen. I backpacked with it even though it is over 6lbs, so moving to a tent thats around 2lbs is like heaven. I have a tent that is lighter and larger than my original tent. Ive always used the inner and the fly due to how quickly the weather can change where I live, so I'm not sure how I'd rig the mesh only.
You'll love it, even in winter. Holds up really well in snow, but you will get condensation, even with the vents open. I do recommend you stake out the extra peak guylines if you're expecting more snow. I didn't, and due to the fact that it was rain that turned to freezing rain that turned to snow, I did have accumulation on the sides and the tent started to sag inwards from the weight. But that was an edge case with Cascade concrete sticking to the tent.
Just bought my first backpacking tent, a Nemo Hornet 2P. For the first couple of years, I carried my 6-lb Coleman, because that's what I had. I can't wait to try the Nemo out in the spring! Love your channel!
Me and my wife use a Copper spur HVUL3 , and when im by myself I have a HVUL2 . we both have found that we like the little bit of extra space. for when the weather is less than ideal.
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Hiking in the Scandinavian mountains I would really prefer to have a four-season tent all year around. There are two reasons for that: 1. You mostly pitch your tent above the timberline where wind conditions are tougher and can change very quickly. 2, The total weight of the pack is probably going to be lower because a four-season tent is that much warmer so you don't have to carry as heavy sleeping bags. During this summer's through-hike (1320 km) we used a Hilleberg Nallo 2 which is 1.2 kg per person. I know it's more than many other tents, but we were never cold in our lightweigth backpacks. For winter backcountry skiing we use pulkas which means that weight is less of a problem, and there we have a Hilleberg Allak 2 which is fully freestanding (including the vestibules): Of course, we might sound like total Hilleberg fanatics, but in the past, we have tried many other tents, and since we can afford Hilleberg we will continue to do that. We are also considering a trekking pole tent, and of course, the Hilleberg Anaris sounds like a perfect option for 3 season forest tenting. For kayaking in Sweden, we need the freestanding tent since you often pitch directly on bedrock.. But as you say the tent is for 4 seasons or 3 seasons, and other options depend and to have a single tent for all use cases is impossible.
Another vote for Dan Durston's X-Mid 2P from Drop. I’ve used it on the Ice Age Trail in Taylor County, Wisconsin for several nights now. Lots of room and huge vestibules.
Because of my advanced age, I go with a Zpacks Duplex - 1.5 #'s, single wall trekking pole tent. Small enough to carry when I'm alone; big enough for both of us if I'm hiking with my adult son.
My wife and I split a Nemo Dagger 2P. She carries the stakes and poles, I carry the body and rainfly. It's not the lightest tent, but since we always camp together it comes in at less than 2lbs per person and offers a ton of space, large vestibules and great wind resistance.
I’ve been using a tarp for most all my adventures, whether it’s been hiking the PCT, bike packing cross country, or hiking/bike packing Ireland. I’ve specifically been using Yama Mountain Gear. I’ve got both silnylon & cuben tarps, tons of space, can add an interior tub/mesh, storm doors/vestibule. I love ‘em. ~ Rawhide
This is what I use: Fast-packing (trail running + camping): Rav Alpine Bivi Winter/Spring: Black Diamond FitzRoy UL: SlingFin SplitWing Reg/Comfort tent: Big Agnes Tiger Wall Coastal/Ocean Forest Camping: MSR hubba Hubba old version.
Hi Dan! I have the Marmot Tungsten 3P for my boyfriend and I and I have the Nemo Dragonfly 2P when I go by myself. I'm in Québec Canada where most of the backcountry camping is on platforms so freestanding tents are way easier to set-up 😉 thanks for the comparison 👍
If you're just starting out I would suggest you avoid winter camping, 1 person tents/bivies, and probably trekking pole tents as well. Find a cheap freestanding tent, use it until you know what you like and dislike about it(and how you want to camp), then upgrade. Getting into the smaller tents too early may put you off them in the future if you haven't yet developed the mindset required to go with them
Also, whatever tent you get, you should have a properly sized underlay(consider a dollar store heavy duty plastic table cover), and a small tarp(because no one wants to be stuck in their tent just because it rains for hours)
I personally like to carry my Kelty TN2 tent whenever I'm out and about playing in the woods. Sure its a heavier tent, but I do enjoy the space it allows.
Across the pond I use a van go blade 100. It’s fairly roomy for one and if you pitch it with it backside into the wind it can take winds up to 35-40mph (it’s only a 3 season). It high enough to sit up in and wide enough for gear inside. The vestibule is big for a one person tent. The only downside is it’s inner pitch first, but if you pitch it at home you can take it down all together and then pitch all in one😊
Just grabbed a Big Agnes Copper Spur 4 person for the family! Reasonably light for its size and not as expensive as a Hilleberg. We'll see how it holds up in the Rocky Mountains this summer.
I use the lanshan 2pro in FL and love it. There are better more expensive ones but for the money I can’t complain. I love big angus tents. Wish they were cheaper.
We use a copper spur HV UL 3. and we typically use it for just two people. We're going to try splitting it up now that we're both getting into backpacking, I've been carrying the whole thing alone for years. We fly and travel the World with it. Amazing Amazing Tent
I have a tarptent double rainbow. It needs to be staked out and is a single wall tent but doesn't require trekking poles. I enjoy it a lot and it weighs just over 2 lbs.
I like my Tarptent Double Rainbow LI its a hybrid single wall DCF tent that has a clip in liner for the ceiling to help keep off the condensation when needed. Sets up with one carbon fiber pole down the middle but can be used freestanding by adding your trekking poles flat on each end. I really like the versatility of this tent.
Still rocking my Big Agnes seedhouse sl1 for my solo trips and an MSR hubba hubba for my trips with the wife. Both tents are still working great with close to 10 years of use in the British Columbia backcountry. Lovein your channel.
With Nemo four season tent, solid inner wall is most likely to stop winds from blowing in. If you are not using the tent in snow, thus cannot pack snow around the tent, wind can push trough ground level gap. At least that's what I think.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Dan! I have four tents but two of them are for backpacking: (1) OneTigris Bungalow 2.0 that requires four poles to set up, however, the poles can be sticks from the forest which is what I do to save weight and (2) an Alps Lynx Mountaineering one person tent. The latter is heavier due to it being double walled and requiring two structure poles; can be free standing but I usually stake it down as I use it either out in open areas or on cliff faces (using large rocks for anchors or large screws placed as needed into the rock wall). Being claustrophobic I need to have a door left open. The Lynx has two doors. The other two tents are in my overland camping set up: (1) an old 4P Coleman and (2) a Gazelle T4. I use camp cots and set up the interiors like a very small studio apartment with Mr. Buddy heater, Jackery 240 or 1000, refrigerator, table, camp chair, etc.
I use a 2015 MSR Hubba NX Solo freestanding tent. Love it. Albeit it can feel a little tight. Next tent will be a 2 person for a downright spacious feel. Maybe the new Copper Spur
I'm genuinely interested how long such thin materials would last, especially at my stomping ground in the Peak District. I'm Not dissing it, I'd like to see some destructive testing - ie : getting snagged on brambles, branches blowing into it. Huge hail followed by very hot UV exposure in the same minute
I love my Luxe Hexpeak Tipi (2P) Ultralight Trekking Pole Tent. Its on the bigger side but it is a beefy super light option. Can even get it with stove jacks for the hardcore winter campers.
I got a 2-person Big Agnes Bird Beak SL2 for camping with my fiancé if we're both wanting to share the same shelter. (Love that you can set up the rainfly first, and then clip in the mosquito net tent body second, in case it's raining... only BA tent I've seen with this feature!) I've got a Hennessy Hammock (backpacker edition) if we're wanting to hang separate. We also picked up a Naturehike Cloud-Up 1 Person in case one person wants to Hammock camp and the other wants a 1-person tent. (Was curious about it for the price, and I've gotta say, it's a decent little tent for being so cheap!) So far all have been pretty great!
Marmot Fortress 3p for late fall early spring or for all season car camping. Marmot force 1p or the xmid 2p for "hike in" backpacking in the summer. If I want free standing I also have the Sierra Designs Meteor Lite 2p. Eddie Bauer Kubanetic 3p for winter camping. Was strongly considering the Sierra Designs Convert 3 from Backcountry during the Black Friday sale, but I scored the EB one from Moosejaw for $250 on clearance. Marmot Halo 6p or Mantis 3p for family car camping.
I find that semi freestanding is the happy medium. Usually you can find a rock or something else to stake your tent if the ground is not ideal for staking. But most of it is framed out.
Nordisk Lofoten 2 ULW, took it around the world. weighs in at 500g without packsack (additional 10-20g). worked fine. but would upgrade to freestanding, and take the weight penalty that comes with it.
US 4 season tents-a storm arrives and you realise they've not pre-fitted guylines MSR also good for this, pretty flimsy too. Mountain Hardware and North Face are the only US manufacturers who's tent I'd want to use where a storm is likely AND a tent without a porch, brilliant if you wanna get soaked every time you open the door
Will you be making any videos on how to pack so your gear stays dry? I just hiked a section of the Florida trail and wind and rain kicked in at 45 mph while hiking on a levy in the Gulf of Mexico coast with no tree cover. I was so happy my gear in my HMG Junction was dry and I didn’t get beckered. My Zpack Altaplex kicked butt on those 45 mph gust for a solid 11 hours. The 8” Easton Nano stakes over at Mountain Laurel were the keystone to that achievement. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
So glad you did tipi style tent. I am a big user of did hammock pyramid xl tent. Really big and light. Used it in serious wind and rain. Cheap as well.
Super informative video. I was thinking about buying a tipi style tent, but I didn't know about the lack of a bottom. Thank you, Dan and mysterious camera op!
I love my copper spur. Finally. Tried a trekking pole tent, then the tiger wall semi-free standing. I live near Yosemite. Granite-Ville. I’m older. I just need a free-standing tent. Lighter isn’t always better.
I use the French military two man tent. It is perfect for my needs. Tall enough to sit up in. Big enough for two people. Has a bathtub floor and has the side vents for the best air circulation. And it is completely waterproof. Good enough for the French Army, then good enough for us.
I’ve been clean and shelter sober for a year now. I have not purchased a tent in over 12 months. I do realize I have no control over my addiction, so I am always vigilant. Currently my shelters are as follows: a). Superlight/Dry Conditions (Sierra, Utah, etc) - MLD Grace Duo DCF Tarp w/ optional DCF Serenity 2 Bugnet, b). Longer Extended UL Trips - HMG Dirigo 2, or the GG The Two in DCF, c). Northeast Trips in Summer/Humidity Option - BA Copper Spur Platinum. I feel those 4 shelters will cover almost everything but deep winter trips. I’ve got my eye on a Seek Outside hot tent and stove for that. Dammit Brian!! Stay strong. Get of the SO website. Oops. I pressed the purchase button, credit card info, and purchase confirmation button all by accident. I’m one day clean
Did you buy a stove and tent bundle? If you did, you're good. You were buying a stove. It's not your fault they gave you a free tent for buying the stove. 👍
a lower 48 4 season tent is ideal for weather like I'm experiencing right now on the east coast of Virginia Heavy rain and strong winds Heavy snow the further west you travel
I take an "Axe Man " single pole ( tracking pole ). It is a double wall elongated pyramid bivvi style it only weighs in at 750g and packs smaller than a ultra-light speaking bag. While it is only a 3 season tent I have stayed in it overnight in a whiteout. I use a magicians 4' staff ( the type that you press the pin and it shoots out to 4' but stores in the size of a old school film case) I'm very happy with it and it can be opened to capture a good breeze in hot weather or even just use the mesh inner.
I have two tents that I use for nearly all occasions. Both are budget tents - which I've been quite happy with. My Lanshan 2 Pro is my lightweight backpacking tent I just got earlier this year. Super affordable, excellent trekking pole tent. I have about half-a-dozen nights on it. I've used it in cold and stormy conditions, and it worked like a champ staying pitched and keeping me dry. I also have a Kelty Circuit 2 (dirt cheap) that I use for kayak camping. It's a bit heavier (~4 lbs), but I know that I can pitch it on the beach and not worry about all the sand wearing it out. I've replaced the poles on it once due to them breaking in high wind and years of wear. I've been using it for 3 years, dozens of nights, no real issues. Those are my go-to tents.
@@Xerute, I have slept comfortably in high 20s F degree weather in my Lanshan 2 Pro. Your sleep system (bag, pad, liner, and maybe pillow) is going to matter *way* more than the tent. Take a look at Dan's recent video on winter camping. If you are going on a budget, get a basic insulated pad if you don't already have one and add a closed cell foam pad. Super cheap. Super light. Have a rated sleeping bag, or add one of the Sea-to-Summit Reactor Extreme liners (which do work well). Everyone's comfort level is different, but this has been plenty good enough for me. (If you're car camping, you can get a heavy fleece liner for dirt cheap. But I would hesitate to drag it on a backpacking trip.)
I had a 3 season Tarn 2, 2 person tent. I’ve just upgraded to a 4 season TGV 2 person tent. I think I was a little warm at nights in the summer. I kind of missed the airy ventilation the 3 season tent offered during the later afternoon naps.
I use the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2 -- it is great overall! It is tight but doable for 2 people; it is like a 1.5 person tent for solo use. Just picked-up the "crazylight" Big Agnes Scout 1 Platinum and will be testing it soon on my next fast and light dry weather weekend.
I use the Big Agnes Copper spur bikepacker edition (not backpaking :P) bit found the wind is a big problem with it 1 year ago I did a Iceland tour and the wind is realy hard there and most camp spots are not shielded with forrest.... hardly any forrest in Iceland so the tent is open to the elements, I had to put the strongest side of the tent against the wind and hoping it wont change in the night even used weather forcast to place the tent .... packed stones around it to shield it a bit. 3 nights of my 30 day trip I had to hold the tent poles from the inside for a few hrs to keep it upride and flying away.... 2 of those nights I packed up my gear and just contined my trip very short nights in the summer is so handy :P After the trip I lookt ad the hilleberg tents but they are so heavy :(
Semi freestanding, 3 season. Alps Mountaineering Taurus 2 If I can stake it out it's good for the winter. It's not good for the summer, as it doesn't have good enough ventilation, but I do most camping during the spring and fall, and I've enjoyed a few winter camps in it as well. Frankly, given that it's 7½' long, the value for the price is pretty good. Only real complain is the poor quality plastic used for the "windows" in the fly breaks down over time
I have a Eureka Alpenlite XT 2 person tent I like to use for winter camping in the Roan Highlands and out west in the Rockies or Sierra Nevadas. For my 3 season tent, I have the Alps Mountaineering Chaos 2 tent that I love. It’s heavier then the ultralight options I see from most backpacking channels, but I love the versatility of the tent for the various outdoor adventures I go on every year.
Nemo is NOT a 4 season tent. Cuz it have no skirt. You just can't use it in winter and on cold strong winds without skirt. After u place tent on snow you must dig skirt under snow (or place some rocks on windy rocky place) to prewent winds and snow go in. So it 3 season tent with some extra strengh and a little bit more wind protection (cuz no mesh on inner tent).
I’ve built up a huge collection like you. I got caught up in the UL buzz and bought a few trekking pole tents, but for conditions where I hike it’s either thick scrub, forest or rocky desert - a self standing with a small footprint and I need for pegs is what I need.
I just bought a Trekker 2v from river country, its a much better (in my opinion) design compared to the one you've previously reviewed. I would like to see you check it out, and give it a try. Very cheap, and as far as I can tell well made. We'll see after the first trip out, but as far as testing it out back, I love it. Spacious, lot of head room, quick set up, double walled, double zipper, decent vestibule.
Been using the Trekker 3. It's a terpee style trekking pole tent with a floor. It's double wall on 2 sides and single on the other two. I like it because i can stand up in it and it fits my family of 4 so we only need to bring one tent. It comes in at just under 5 lbs without poles. If they made a dyneema version it would be perfect!!
Best tent I have owned, for most purposes, Zpacks Duplex. Carbon poles can be purchased to make it free standing. I don't really like the free standing poles. They are just ok.
Thanks for this informative video. Short term in Finland, I just plunked down some silver on a 4-season tent for some Nordic trekking I didn’t expect to be doing until recently. The purchase options are more limited here than in the US (though i run across a lot of tipi tents on trail around here). There is much less of a market for lightweight gear here, and gear runs pricey. Locals don’t give a second thought to schlepping the kitchen sink along. But there are several very well established trekking brands, and I wound up buying a no frills, double-wall (staked) tunnel tent. It’s built like a tank (and weighs like one too: nearly 5lbs and it’s labelled lightweight), but I’ve already learned how well it withstands heavy loads of overnight snowfall and high winds in exposure. I would never have bought it in the States, but I’m reconciled to it here.
There are some stores in europe like backpackinglight, fjallsport and a danish one I can’t remember the name of that sells light weight gear. Also Hilleberg, a swedish company makes a few light weight models that are found in some stores around the nordic countries.
Just picked up (or in the last 2 months) a Zpacks hexamid solo, extremely lightweight and packs down tiny. I really like it, one drawback is entry height is ridiculously low, but I’m ok with that since I’m fast packing and need as tiny a package as I can get.
@@StoicDivinity I hike in the White Mountains of NH all the time and have talked to many thru hikers and the ones I have talked to love their Zpack tents and gear. I think people like to hate on Zpacks because of cost. The more people pay they expect perfection. Zpacks in made in the US so its going to cost more.
I use a Big Agnes Tiger Wall for solo trips and a Jack Rabbit 3 when I have a partner. The Jack Rabbit is not the lightest tent but its what I have for now. The next tent will more than likely be a Zpacks'
Currently myself and my partner (and our dog) use a Wild Country Hoolie 3 etc...it's been amazing for near on 10 years! Here in the UK the weather can be tricky (I learned my lesson when first camping about HH and the rain 😂🤣). My favourite (and upgrading this year to) is the Robens Voyager 3 ex...had the 2ex before the dog came along and it's amazing in all weather...extreme heat and cold...middle of summer in the Mendips...scorchio during the day and freezing cold at night....gotta love the English weather 🤣🤣🤣
I have an MSR carbon reflex one person semi free standing tent. It’s really light and built well, but the headroom is terrible. I cant sit up inside the tent without bending my neck way over. If it were 3-4 inches taller I would love it. It is the same general design as the marmot tent in this video. When I’m laying down it's plenty roomy for me to sleep. I just dont like waking up and getting out of the tent. It would be pretty unpleasant on a rainy morning.
Bought my sleeping bags,tents at Goodwill last chance for gas..never paid more than $10.stuff all sorts stuff ..sum mark in price..furniture rugs.,beds, bedding TV's,bicycles etc..clothes shoes ,toys ,sum tools, clocks all in long bins 3 years ago $1.79 lb.
