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@33spree 2 года назад

Don't forget to properly position your plants. A great man once said that "nothing beats the sound of a cactus."

@billybunter3753 2 года назад

I knew a man whom always said..."nothing beats a sit on a cactus"

@RedSinter 2 года назад

Ahahahahahahah Ahahahahahahah

@Kah0ona 2 года назад

Can I just suggest: Pixies - Cactus. Great song

@joshmcgowan4 2 года назад

Awesome video.Definitely going to look into adding some treatment to my room.

@BobbyDazzler888 2 года назад

@@billybunter3753 your dad?

@ABC-rh7zc 2 года назад

Room treatment is so underrated. Glad you're doing it and raising awareness.

@Geoduck. 2 года назад

The room we listen in is by far the most impact on sound good or bad. Those expensive room treatments will never wear out. Having a great sounding room is the foundation for gear to work properly. Modest gear would sound grand in a well treated room.

@chrisrud5158 2 года назад

Perfect, the most under utilized "thing" in hifi . . . treating the room on some level. To me, getting the room right has always been paramount, within the price and living space limitations available. 20 years ago my dedicated listening room was treated by 8 large ASC tube traps, and various wall mounted flat panels. It wasn't on this level, and wasn't conceived on a computer to the exacting level shown in this video, but the results were amazing. My room really allowed system upgrades to shine through, even on the rudimentary level that I had treated it. That room was repurposed for years, but is now going back to a dedicated 2 channel room and will be fully treated with GIK acoustics before I setup any gear. Well done on this room, it's going to sound amazing no doubt.

@NathanOakley1980 2 года назад

Just spent 5k treating my room, it’s taken 2 years, best thing I have ever done.

@cablebrain9691 2 года назад

Fun to watch, I just wish that you had shown a wider view of how the entire area looks. Also, some explanation of how they determined the exact placement of the particular panels. I'm hoping that some of that will be addressed in your next video. I could easily hear the difference, and can't wait for your reaction to music being played in the room.

@thirdkey9 2 года назад

So looking forward to the follow up of your immediate and longer term experience with the new set up. Another great choice John and as always, so entertaining, informative and well produced.

@alferro3149 2 года назад

I find that plants of ficus benjamina in the corners, books, lps, nice thick curtains, beautiful pictures on the wall, lamps with cloth lampshades, sofas, carpets and so on make my living room sound great...and it looks fab. Not sure how many people want their lounge to look like a recording studio...and partners!

@garrywood9101 2 года назад

Amazing install and serious money but for a serious audiophile it’s worth the cost. HOWEVER my OCD kicked in when I saw the clock wedged between the panels and their closeness to it lol - it was taken down towards the end but it was back up at the end of the video. Please move it for me before I blow a circuit 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@toddfuller3765 2 года назад

I use racking stuffed with records and books. Plants, tapestries, and thick antique curtains. Large upside-down Japanese umbrellas help with the ceilings. Scattered Persian rugs. Gives the room that early 19th-century opium den vibe. Everything was purchased second-hand. True recycling.

@thobekanikhoza4038 2 года назад

these things look marvelous, like works of art, well done Sire and thank you for the quality content! happy new year!

@stephenlibin9526 2 года назад

Thank You & Looking Forward To Part 2!

@danielkoster7762 2 года назад

I really like the looks of these acoustic panels. As an architecture student, specialized in building physics, this makes me so happy to see! It would be very interesting to see real life measurements, especially reverb is easy to measure. Congrats on the new home!

@ianpickering4020 2 года назад

Always very satisfying watching other people work. Looking forward to pt 2 and your observations on (hopefully) the sound quality improvements.

@syanhc 2 года назад

I really appreciate this video. Excellent. We need more videos looking into room treatment. Thanks. Always enjoy your topics!

@Zwakkie05 2 года назад

I have had my room acoustically adjusted. That's the best upgrade I've done and worth all the money. 😊👍🏻

@JeffJacquesmd 2 года назад

Happy Thanksgiving from California brother. Thankful for many things this year, including always learning whenever I turn on one of your vids or read one of your articles.

@funkyfurballs1078 2 года назад

For those with 15 ft+ high walls, I would suggest a rock climbing wall as a diffuser.

@giovanniclaudio.ambrogio3605 2 года назад

Great video. Finally an innovative and practical approach to room acoustic. I did some treatments with GIK and very happy with it but your process is much better. Well done!!!!!

@duncanrosie1842 2 года назад

I treated my home office with 6 500x500 mm panels from Acoustic Worx here in SA. Very effective, and total cost was 250 Euro.

@gramophonea 2 года назад

I absolutely loved every second of the video. Great editing as well. Especially before and after was lovely touch.

@bryantaylor2946 2 года назад

Excellent to watch the installation. Could you mention the Vicoustic process for determining which panels are required and where they will go? What about a good, better, best approach - which panels to start with and which to add to the project? The upfront engineering in super important. Thanks!

@spunkthecombo 2 года назад

Well done! Fantastic results!

@MrOnesession 2 года назад

Great video. So excited to watch. I spend just 1000€ for gik acustic stuff and my set up sound far better. Now I can say I hear what the loudspeaker can almost deliver. I think most of the people with good sound system forget this thing about treatment

@joshmcgowan4 2 года назад

Awesome video! Definitely going to look into adding a few panels to my room. You can easily hear the change in the sound as the video progresses.

@erics.4113 2 года назад

The more gear I've bought has created two mountains of boxes within boxes and my listening room has been sounding better and better lol.

@dougcampbell2814 2 года назад

Watching this in the kitchen on my iPad. Wife walks in. Without missing a beat she says “Darko? What’s he talking about today?” LOL. Informational video, I enjoyed watching the process. 🎵

@JayKerr 2 года назад

Fantastic video guys. I've learned so much from watching this channel. The content is always first-rate and interesting.

@MrBearfaced 2 года назад

I told myself a few years ago that future hi-fi spending would come after room treatment, it makes such a difference. I look forward to seeing the second part of the video.

@Google_Does_Evil_Now 2 года назад

It looks great. I wasn't expecting it to look so good. But it does.

@magnusdanielsson2749 2 года назад

For those who arent interested in having special panels on the walls and ceiling heres my suggestions. Install the thickest carpet you can find and make sure it covers all of the floor. Put in some bookshelfs filled with books. Your favourite upholstered furniture (no leather). Hang some paintings etc on the walls, some flowers etc. Work with finding a good placement for your speakers and listening location. If you want to improve it from there. Assuming your loudspeakers are good enough (ie measure good) get at least two subwoofers. Work on placing them in the best spot. Get a mini dsp or similar and work on the crossover (around 80hz) and some parametric eq (only up to 120 hz or so!). After this you get new speakers if they atent quite up to snuff👌😊

@lanemiddleton9 2 года назад

Amazing before and after difference in room sound John. Happy listening 👂🏼 👂🏼

@FOH3663 2 года назад

Certainly a nice start. Thanks John

@lukewarmtemp9513 2 года назад

Nice room!!! Looking forward to seeing how it looks when it’s completely finished.

@yuriy8057 2 года назад

Already saw it 3 times because it’s very satisfying and interesting Where is the part2 John? Can’t wait to see the room fully loaded with plants and furniture and some expensive gears !!!! Common

@darkroom8317 2 года назад

My favourite video of your to date, thanks!

@ibassnote 2 года назад

Excellent. It wasn’t a matter of if, but when. Thank you for taking this on so we can collectively take a huge leap forward in our understanding of sound and our relationship to our listening space.

@Lutznn 2 года назад

Super cool! Looking forward to hearing what the improvements are.

@davidbishop1570 2 года назад

Very interesting John. In a previous house I had a dedicated listening room which I had acoustically analyzed and then made and installed the recommended ceiling, wall/ceiling interface and bass trap components. The improvement was startling! In my current house I share the large main living space with my wife so acoustic room treatment, apart from an area rug, is out of the question. I have a 'near field' listening position which minimizes those primary reflections but I'm sure it would sound so much better with some absorption/diffraction/bass trap panels. Cheers, Dave.

@m6j159 2 года назад

Very informative, John and wow! What a difference! Thank you.

@adamyelle4901 2 года назад

So jealous! Can't wait to hear what you think of the room when everything is back in place

@audiodad1631 2 года назад

Very nice and interesting to see this kind of video John. I will place alsoo a panel against my backwall in the future. Keep up the good work!👍🏽

@lotsofcouscous 2 года назад

This was a very informative video. I was overwhelmed knowing that we produce such good things here in Portugal to help your acoustics! 😀

@stereosalsa4186 2 года назад

Ok Mr. Darko! Your treatments are looking REALLY good and I can’t wait to hear you try out a familiar rig set up in the new space. Wall treatments and bass traps are one thing but ensuring the ceiling was also addressed makes this a legit modeling space.

@norfunk 2 года назад

These look fantastic, I have a large kitchen wall at the end of my snug that bounces all sorts of horrible noises back at me and have been looking for something that might pass the wife test. Thanks for the video.

@flashhog01 2 года назад

Wow, that is a lot of product, lots of work and a terrific install. Looks great! Looking forward to your thoughts on how your listening experience changes.

@MarkDavidMcCoskey 2 года назад

That IS COOL!!! I don't think I'd ever do that, BUT I now see what is possible, and how in-depth one can get in their Room Treatment process. Thanks!

@JasonMilner 2 года назад

This is fantastic. If I ever get the cash for a serious high end hi fi, room treatment like this will be a must!

@frederikblohm4592 2 года назад

Congratulations, I wish you much joy with the new acoustics!

@rothgartheviking858 2 года назад

Glad to see your doing treatments. Wow really nice!

@davidrichardson8855 2 года назад

The room is the most important part of the system. I had a house with a big room (30 x 40’) for a big system (801’s and subs, 2kw power etc.) speakers set out 4’ from the walls , listening 7’ from rear wall etc. with fair bit of, low quality room treatment. Sounded pretty good by all accounts. Then moved to a much smaller condo, small living room sitting with listening short side to the speakers that have to be against the wall- listening position too. It sounded better (but shouldn’t). I thought the speakers would crush the room but “nearfield” seemed to benefit the 801’s. THEN I treated the ceiling, front and back walls almost like this room. Magical. Spend less on gear like expensive $5k DACs (sorry Darko). Put it into the room - the effect will be more noticeable.

@alext8828 Год назад

You are correct on all counts.

@thespotlightkid1011 2 года назад

Whenever i go towards my turntable that's placed on a t/table shelf bolted to the side-wall half-way down my living room that is twice as long as it is wide, with speakers aiming down the long length, i hear a near perfect bass ballance that dissapears when my head gets a foot or so & more away, the deep bass is all but gone when i'm sitting on my listening sofa. I have soft furnishing all around the room, a thick'ish carpet with an underlay & i've tried altering speaker phase, toe-in/out & everything i can think of to ameliorate this fact but it grieves me that it still only sounds excellent throughout the whole frequency spectrum with my head about a foot or less away from the side wall above my equipment. I've tried everything short of placing the speakers 4 or more feet out from the wall ...the misses won't take that. Every week i get asked "have you pulled those speakers out from the wall again" no, i say lying thru my teeth that i moved them out by 2 more inches & still she notices it !! I dare not try to pull them out more because if i like it better, i'll want them there permanently for music & film & tv sound. Are we not men? I had balls once

@0102studio 2 года назад

this is great, thanks for making this video!

@davidgollom345 2 года назад

Great Video!! What a striking difference!

@cristirosu5283 2 года назад

thanks... thank you so much...

@HollandHillSpies 2 года назад

Love this video and have been a fan of Vicoustic for many years. IT would great to get a follow up video on your perception of how 2 ch audio quality has improved. I've found that the background, separation, transparency in my setup had improved such that I could listen to my fav tracks at lower volume!

@DSupremeLounge 2 года назад

Love it! Thanks

@sashacolic2427 2 года назад

What a project, congrats John! Step one: Consult Jesco Lohan for room acoustics. Step 2: Treat the room. Step 3: Buy loads of gear! :)

@Hush99 2 года назад

Olaf did a wonderful job!

@DarkoAudio 2 года назад

Yes, he did!

@robertm8518 2 года назад

Looks cool and I do hear the difference!

@janspaan6122 2 года назад

Very nice video, can't wait for part two ... very curious what the (audible) outcome of all this has meant for you !

@ChristyOFaghan 2 года назад

really useful to see this type of install

@robertwebster8615 2 года назад

I am using Eighth Nerve Response system (12 pieces) in White to match the walls from the now defunct company. I love your acoustic system ! Great job !

@gregorypatton360 2 года назад

That looks killer! I cant wait to hear your impressions once you get gear back in there

@netster 2 года назад

Wow! Incredible!

@dubieshel 2 года назад

you are an inspiration !!! enjoy!!!

@hifiandmtb 2 года назад

Super interesting content this - many thanks John!

@rickfriedel08 2 года назад

Really interesting. Thanks for sharing.

@KOL630 2 года назад

Looks so good as well 👌🏼

@krancan25 2 года назад

It looks great, and for the high frequencies you are probably done… but for the lower and those room modes… I am guessing still an issue.

@scrambaba 2 года назад

Good to hear about the sustainable materials part!

@weeverob 2 года назад

so i guess covering the walls with egg cartons is now passé?

@afinasomangelo4914 Год назад

Amazing room, amazing products, congratulations !!!

@1999zrx1100 Год назад

I just bought five 24”x 48” x 2 inches thick absorption panels here in Canada for $600 delivered. My room is 20’x15’ 8’ ceiling. Lots of echo in my room and according to various sites to calculate the number of panels needed the ideal is about 10-12. Minimum recommended is 5 24x48’s. Waiting for them to arrive and then I’ll play around and see the effect and wether I should buy more. Experimenting with blankets and big cushions stacked up on the walls I was amazed what effect it had. Point being guys, you don’t have spend big money on treatment to hear some serious improvement. I’ll update this once they arrive and I’ve had a chance to mess around with them. 🤗😎

@nickloss2377 Год назад

I'm in Canada too. Toronto to be precise. I coulda made you 5 proper sound absorption panels for a fraction of that! Here's a tip with installation: hanging then flush against the walls (like a painting) is a popular method, however if you leave a gap between the wall and panel (like an inch or so) you will see a big improvement over a flush installation. more reflected sound waves will be trapped in that gap and not propagate throughout the room. also if possible, you might want to look at hanging something from the ceiling. in control rooms of recording studios we call them "cloud" absorption panels ...(not to be confused with those horrible drop ceiling acoustic tiles... these are purpose built absorption panels that hang at strategic points of the ceiling. can easily be disguised as an artsy decor element)

@marcus1970 2 года назад

Exceptional lengths that you've gone to there..... When furnished and up and running the rewards would surely justify the expense (for those of us that would need to pay) At some stage in the coming years I will be moving... This type of project lies ahead for me.... Thank you for making this content John. 👍🏻

@jeremyfmoses 2 года назад

I'm interested in 1) how one decides which panels to get and where to put them 2) what I can do in an apartment where I'm not able to drill into the walls/ceiling and 3) if there's anything I can do for less than say $1,000. Otherwise, hope your room upgrades help the sound - they certainly seem like they're going to, and they look pretty cool!

@wouterkolkman 2 года назад

Great project John!

@gg0297 2 года назад

I enjoyed watching this video. Really nice.

@eltaia82 2 года назад

Always wanted to see your room acoustically treated! you have really nice gear to use in non treated room. I hope you enjoy it!

@THEOMD57 2 года назад

Tricky job , sound measurements needed ( by whom ? ) and proper installation . Too good to be true for an average hobbyist in an average European country......

@noakwesterberg 2 года назад

Nice! I built some porous absorbers for side and rear wall in our lounge, very worthwhile! I am quite curious about doing the ceiling too. Did that in my home studio with great results!

@grayfool 2 года назад

My wife says NO! It looks very "Thunderbirds". Very interesting though. It's going to be interesting to follow your response in the future. Thanks for taking one for the team John.

@Harry-Giles 2 года назад

Fun experience. Looking forward to the follow up.

@bongelectronics7773 2 года назад

Beautiful

@leonpjhb 2 года назад

Your best video so far!

@barrymiller3385 2 года назад

Yes - I saw this. And no I don't have any bespoke room treatment. Other than furniture and some very carefully positioned house plants!!

@tedjensen8841 2 года назад

Great project. Good way to upgrade the sound of your system.

@jimalbruzzess2445 2 года назад

Awesome video John !!! Nice change of content. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦🍻🍻🍻🍻🤘🤘

@nunofernandes4501 2 года назад

I had no idea that this company is from my country, wow! I'm looking forward to your insights on the effects of the room treatment and of course the ensuing gear reviews done in this new environment.

@DDennnisss 2 года назад

The number of times i have used Shazam on Johns videos.. Yes..

@rotaks1 2 года назад

me too!

@MAXLAND7 2 года назад

Placed on walls 17 acoustic panels to absorb high frequencies. Also used panels on top of high cabinet and even on top of the usa fridge. They are not visible and panels on wall are pure white and almost invisible. Paid 400euro for that stuff and makes the job. Of course, I have curtains, sofa, carpet etc Before, the room was like a church.