Watch This Jazz Chord Become an Arabic Maqam Using Math 

I agree there are a lot of possibilities to be discovered and all depend on which method you choose to use to get to a particular outcome. In "Footprints/So What" video I try similar things you mentioned as in adapting the chord progression to fit the melody and vice versa.

@@TarekYamani i think the idea that jazz standards are actually just "tunes" rather than a strict melody with strict sequence of chord progression really supports this idea. (i think the good thing about unique jazz renditions is that each composer is able to internalize and process the melodies according to their vocabulary and habits.) , and since the ajnas are really more precisely groups of melodic ideas than simply "parts of a scale", the levels of nuance that this affords someone melodically makes it extremely possible to replicate and expand on the melodic ideas in jazz standards, since other musical traditions share some of the same ideas and more. [i am sort of high, sorry for the rambling] i will definitely check out that song you mentioned

Ever heard of the east coast slave trade....that the mixing you were thinking of?

Really 😅 Are you sure

MIddle eastern music also uses modes that are very similar to western modes as well, so they're probably all used to hearing songs and pieces that lack the quarter tones. Middle eastern music is less focused on scales (you hear a lot fewer full-octave scale runs), and more focused on tetrachords (jins/ajnas). Thus to the middle eastern ear, I guess the western modes are about as weird as the western modes are to us. (Keep in mind, we also have a chromatic scale that has more notes than the modes, yet we don't hear C# and D# as lacking in a piece in C major). One related question, though - I have nearly never heard any middle eastern music that sounded pentatonic. Western listeners by now are fairly familiar with pentatonic sounds (so we perceive the pentatonic scales as nice and melodic and smooth). Whatwith the two augmented seconds in there* and lack of minor and neutral seconds, I would think middle eastern musicians would actually find pentatonic scales to be lacking. * This is a hill I'll die on. The minor pentatonic consists of an augmented second, two major seconds, an augmented second, and a major second.

I grew up with all kind of music, since I'm from Indonesia, I was exposed to arabic, western, indian, and many more. To me personally after few observations, the western music tends to lean more on the harmony, mutiple notes playing together in harmony, while arabic and indian music leans more on the one complex melody, and the notes are often not limited by anything that sounds good playing at the same time. To me, melodically western music mostly sounds too predictable and simple to my ear, while eastern music especially arab and india melodically so fascinatingly complex and ornamented, but then again they are not restricted by what is harmonious or not.

true that though "Lydian dominant" or "Lydian b7" are the more common terms.

Thanks Josh, anything which reads scala files (.scl) or TUN files will do the job. Here I use tun files in Omnisphere.

@@TarekYamani interesting thanks! ill look into that!

For every half-step/semitone, in-between each semitone there is what in the west they call a microtone. In western music there are 12 tones in the chromatic scale, but in arabic, turkish, persian, Indian, and other music of the east, they have the microtone, making the 12 tones of the western chromatic scale, a 24 tone chromatic scale in arabic music.

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Hey Pavel, YES I remember very well your clave to chromatic scale observations, so much more wonders to unpack.

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Thank youuuu :D It's very easy to do this, which software do you use? Anything which reads scala files (.scl) or TUN files will do the job. Here I use tun files in Omnisphere.

Unless you use the guitar as a midi controller 😁

@@TarekYamani Haha, yes! Or possibly install the new fretboard with 24 tone system 😀

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I'm using Omnisphere here but you could also use Pianoteq or any software which understands kbm files (keyboard mapping so you can map the keyboard to 24t scale).

@@TarekYamani great! thank you so much for the information

Rast is a bit tricky to play chords with (the trickiest out of microtone maqams). A rule of thumb would be to start experimenting with your D Major scale chords avoiding the half sharps/flats. Think dropping the 3rd note from a triad when needed, using sus chords and so on.

@@KWAW47 like 9 months later 🤣🤣😆😆. Never too late right? Tx

@@issamchabaa45 haha.. you’re welcome!