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To answer the question about the force and Anakin. It took him a while to learn how to use the force with the robotic hand since it was different from his other. There's a book called Brotherhood where he talks about it.
58:19 this guy gets it. A lot of people used to ask why anakin was crying in that scene. It’s because he hates himself so much for what he did, the horrors he committed. But he felt he had to do it to save his family. That’s what makes the story of anakins manipulation by palpatine so tragic.
The tragedy is that if he would have listened to Windu, he would have had everything he wanted. he was asked to wait in the Council Chamber. Upon their return, they were going to make him a Master. He would have had it all, without turning to the dark side.
@@LoveThisRealWoman That's a good point. He only played possum to being beaten by Mace to lure Anakin. But I could only go based on what my eyes see, and he had him beat, before Anakin came into the room.
Lo que estás diciendo es incorrecto ya que ellos utilizaron a Anakin como un espía para descubrir las verdaderas intenciones de Palpatine,en todo caso jamás lo hubieran hecho maestro ya que la única razón por la que lo aceptaron en el consejo jedi fue porque Palpatine confiaba en él.
The heartbreaking part of the clones, is that they were good people with individual personalities. Most were friends with the jedi they followed, but good soilders follow orders.
@@ISavant they didn't really have a choice in the matter once they heard the order they were no longer themselves anymore so don't blame the clones they were victims just as much as the jedi
I remember watching this in theater and when Obi-Wan said "It's over Anakin. I have the high ground.". As a Darth Vader fan I was like please dont jump and then the rest is history.
A funny side not to help cut the tension of the sci-fi horror, the actor that played Anakin was so good with the child actors, and was so nice, that they were having trouble filming the scene where everyone looked scared. The cut they used, when he pulls out his lightsaber and the one kids flinches, and they all looked worried was because he walked into the room and yelled boo really loud and aggressive and it startled and scared them a little, all other cuts at least one kid was smiling or laughing because he had spent so much time playing with and having fun with them and they couldn't take him seriously when he acted mean lol.
Unfortunately it doesn’t come off in live action but palpatine is moving at such a quick speed that he was able to slice up the other 3 Jedi and the reason mace Windu is able to keep up is because of the form of lightsaber fighting he uses which taps into the dark side
Mace Windu's combat skills are enough to match Yoda. The only reason he can use the form in the first place is because he is extremely powerful and disciplined.
Mace Windu's light saber form does not draw on the dark side. It comes close, but Jedi cannot use dark side power. Also, Palpatine used a power called force scream, which disoriented the 4 Jedi who attacked him. Windu was known as one of the best duelists in the galaxy, that's how he held his own against Palpatine.
A theory about Padme‘s death has been around for a long time and I think it’s the most compelling one. It basically says that Palpatine used the power of the dark side to create life and basically save someone from certain death (as Palpatine explained to Anakin). Except that he didn’t just save or rather create Darth Vader but he sacrificed Padmes life in order to do so. Which is why the two scenes, the death of Padme and Anakin and the birth of Darth Vader are cut alongside each other. I think you can perfectly see it as Vader takes his first breath or when Padme dies and basically falls back a bit while in the next scene you see Vader rise. It’s also why Padmes death can’t really be explained.
The war in the galaxy after the Battle of Geonosis, called the Clone Wars, lasted 3 years and Anakin was one of the most important commanders of the clone army as a Jedi general, which is why he was absent from Coruscant for a long time. You should watch the animated series: Star Wars the Clone Wars, it's really great, it strongly develops the main characters and many others that we only see in the film through single scenes, including many other jedi, and shows this conflict
@@lionhead123 Hah, just like the entire Star Wars universe is full of illogicality, a million death stars all with a factory defect, the jedi council does not trust Anakin by force, pushing him to the dark side, stormtroopers who should be elite soldiers but get spanked by ewoks, Jango who being the best bounty hunter in the galaxy, instead of killing Padme normally, he hires another contractor and resorts to some worms and much more. However, you have to accept that this is a fantasy universe with a large number of illogical elements, but still, I think that Star Wars the Clone Wars is worth watching, although of course there are weaker episodes
@@lukescrew1981 Yes they should. The Clone Wars show is honestly the best form of Star Wars media out and adds so much to the Prequels and especially this movie
Yeah...Qui Gonn spirit taught Obi Wan to become a force ghost. That´s why he told Vader in episode IV: "if you strike me down, I´ll become more powerful that you can possibly imagine".
55:06 A good question, and Rico is definitely on the right track with his guess. The Dark Side can actually physically-corrupt users depending on how immersed they are in it, how much they use it, or if they commit a particularly evil/hostile act in pursuit of it. In fact, if I recall right, Palpatine actually had to use a sort of Force-based illusion to maintain his normal appearance; and during his duel with Windu, the rebound lightning stripped the illusion away and revealed what he REALLY looked like. Mind you, this is based off of a throw-away line I heard of from the novelization of the movie, which may or may not be proper canon at this point given the Disney take-over and all. But yeah, using the Dark Side of the Force actually does mess you up almost as much physically as it does mentally.
I have always consider the opposite thing... That scene was made in order to explain why Sidious has that face. It was the red eyes what give the Sith the evil look, and that is why only Darth Sidious has that face and no other Sith
@@NL-X A fair way of looking at it, and I think under the Disney canon that is indeed what they're going with. But in "Legends" dark-side corruption can cause other physical-alterations besides the yellow/orange eyes; like deformities and premature-aging.
@@refurbishedtechpriest9076 oh thx for the clarification. I personally like more that it was his own lighning the one that gave him the "scars" that would always reveal how horrible he is inside, however Legends version of it does makes a lot of sense as well. Now I think George Lucas was more into explain the face with the scene tbh, but as our beloved Master Kenobi said: "many of the truths depends greatly on our points of views" (or something like that I don't remember lol)
after having had dealings with a coule covert narc s and knwing what the yare, palpatine is the ulitimate narcissit. that includes gallighting. projectin, guilt trippin, manipulations, love bombing, grooming etc.. but guesw what else they do. narc rage, when they get caughgt they go into narc rage and their mask falls off, this is literally what happened
1:04:33 The rule of 2 which the sith often follow (since it was created) says that the master trains the apprentice until the apprentice is more powerful and kills the master. And then the cycle repeats. The goal is that the remaining sith becomes more powerful than the last and so they grow stronger and stronger over time. If Vader wouldn't have gotten the suit and his injuries, then what Palpatine said here would have become reality most likely.
@@pricemaxer9736 In his crippled state, he was still several degrees more powerful than the surviving Jedi(save Yoda), but he was inevitably far weaker than Palpatine had wanted him to be. Anakin was conceived by either Plagueis or Sidious/Palpatine(conflicting sources), who used the Force to immaculately conceive a child. As a result, Anakin's force potential is several orders of magnitude higher than any living Jedi, even Yoda. However, he lost ~40% of his body mass on Mustafar, and since the force flows through living tissue, this means he also lost a relative amount of his force potential. For reference, Anakin's midichlorian count(and they are not the source of the Force, they merely translate to one's relative ability to draw upon the Force) was around 20,000 midi-chlorians per cell. For contrast, Yoda had 18,000 per cell and Obi-Wan had around 13,000(which is actually a pretty low number for a Jedi). When Anakin lost on Mustafar and lost 40% of his body mass, he also lost 40% of his total midi-chlorians(his per-cell count remains unchanged, he just has a lot less cells through which the Force can flow). NORMALLY, this would have translated to a significant loss in overall Force ability, but Vader was able to substantially mitigate the loss by committing to the Dark Side with every fiber of his being. He became so immersed in the hatred and anger of the Dark Side that he made up much of the power he'd lost, though he still ended up being substantially(~20%) weaker than the Emperor, when Sidious himself anticipated that a fully Dark Side Anakin would have been far stronger than even he was. It's sort of terrifying to imagine how powerful Anakin could have been had he defeated Obi-Wan on Mustafar. Padme would have received the best possible medical treatment and possibly even survived. Anakin would probably kill Palpatine in short order, but he doesn't have a mind for Empire management and lacks Palpatine's connections. However, it would surprise me deeply if the Clones did not have instructions to default to Anakin as the next highest authority in the event of Palpatine's death, regardless of circumstances, so Anakin would be in possession of the only significant military in the galaxy. Several small rebellions would inevitably break out, but I strongly believe Anakin would have redoubled the production of Clones (Vader had no taste for the Death Star or similar weapons), and by the original timing of Episode 4, he'd have brought the entirety of Hutt space to heel beneath his boot. Not sure where things go from there. The biggest failing of the Dark Side is that it is a hole that can never be filled. "Emperor Skywalker" would have constantly been seeking new frontiers to conquer.
@@perrycarters3113 interestingly, about Anakin’s conception. In the Darth Plagueis novel (which is no longer canon, but hasn’t been “replaced”) it is heavily implied that Anakin’s conception was an unintended result of Plagueis and his Master manipulating the Force at such a cosmic scale. Sort of the “light side” spawning in a child to balance the evil that the Sith were up to
@@zed_1585 This plays into the quote from Snoke; "Dark rises, and light to meet it." If one side of the Force threatens to consume the other, the Force itself will seemingly spontaneously conjure a being that will be coincidentally perfectly placed and equipped to tip the balance the other way. Ironically for Plagueis, Anakin played pivotal roles in both overthrowing the light and then the same to the dark.
This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker, forever: The first dawn of light in your universe brings pain. The light burns you. It will always burn you. Part of you will always lie upon black glass sand beside a lake of fire while flames chew at your flesh. You can hear yourself breathing. It comes hard, and harsh, and it scrapes nerves already raw, but you cannot stop it. You can never stop it. You cannot even slow it down. You don’t even have lungs anymore. Mechanisms hardwired into your chest breathe for you. They will pump oxygen into your bloodstream forever. Lord Vader? Lord Vader, can you hear me? And you can’t, not in the way you once did. Sensors in the shell that prisons your head trickle meaning directly into your brain. You open your scorched-pale eyes; optical sensors integrate light and shadow into a hideous simulacrum of the world around you. Or perhaps the simulacrum is perfect, and it is the world that is hideous. Padme? Are you here? Are you all right? you try to say, but another voice speaks for you, out from the vocabulator that serves you for burned-away lips and tongue and throat. Padme? Are you here? Are you all right? I’m very sorry, Lord Vader. I’m afraid she died. It seems in your anger, you killed her. This burns hotter than the lava had. No…no, it is not possible! You love her. You have always loved her. You could never will her death. Never. But you remember… You remember all of it. You remember the dragon that you brought Vader forth from your heart to slay. You remember the cold venom in Vader’s blood. You remember the furnace of Vader’s fury, and the black hatred of seizing her throat to silence her lying mouth… And there is one blazing moment in which you finally understand that there was no dragon. That there was no Vader. That there was only you. Only Anakin Skywalker. That it was all you. Is you. Only you. You did it. You killed her. You killed her because, finally, when you could have saved her, when you could have gone away with her, when you could have been thinking about her, you were thinking about yourself… It is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith - Because now yourself is all you will ever have. And you rage and scream and reach through the Force to crush the shadow who has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were. You are more than half machine, you are like a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters, and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow. In the end, you do not even want to. In the end, the shadow is all you have left. Because the shadow understands you, the shadow forgives you, the shadow gathers you unto itself- And within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame. This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker. Forever…
Palpatine was telling anakin how darth plagueis could use the force to influence midichlorians to create life. Shmi skywalker (anakins mom) said anakin had no father and she couldnt explain what happened.. it was a conception through the force, orchestrated by the sith from the very beginning. In the end anakin did fulfill the prophecy (with some convincing from luke) by throwing the emperor down the shaft thus bringing balance to the force. The disney plot messes all that up though… great reaction guys, i personally love how george lucas told the story out of order, it was a unique artistic choice on his part and the pay off of learning what caused vader and the empire to exist is captivating.
If I remember correctly, Plagueis and Sidious were trying to create life with the force and failed. Then, the force reacted to their attempt by creating Anakin.
Here's a different interpretation of the 'Big Picture' of the Star Wars films (episodes I thru VI): The Force has a will of its own, that is independent of the Jedi, the Sith and everyone else. (The Force is NOT a character in the films, in the sense that we don't see or meet it, in any way; It reveals its will by certain events that happen.) The Force 'knew' that Palpatine and the other Sith needed to be taken down. It also knew that its usual tool, the Jedi, were not a match for this group of Sith. So, The Force had to get involved directly, behind the scenes. - Was Shmi Skywalker impregnated by The Force, and gave birth to Anakin, who was 'immaculately conceived'? - Was it a coincidence that Anakin's birth took place on the outer rim, where he wouldn't be discovered by the Jedi until age 9? (And developed normal human need for attachments?) - Was it a coincidence that Palpatine is presented with the perfect 'bait' in the form of Anakin - a super-powerful Jedi, with an incredibly strong tie to the Force, yet desperately in need of a father who will (appear to) love him unconditionally (as Palpatine pretends to), and who is loyal to family in a way that no other Jedi is? - Does Padme seem like the sort of person who would fall in love with, and then MARRY, a man who had wiped out an entire village of Sandpeople, even as a quasi-act of just revenge? - When Owen and Luke are about to complete the purchase of C-3PO and the 'other' (red) R2 unit in 'A New Hope,' does that droid 'just happen' to blow a fuze at the right moment? (so that R2-D2 ends up with Luke?) If we look at the events through this frame, (of The Force as an Unseen Power, guiding events) then Anakin was clearly born into the universe (and into particular circumstances) to eventually sacrifice himself and to destroy the Sith. He didn't know any details. The only thing anyone knew, was that Prophecy mentioned a 'Chosen One,' and that he would bring balance to the Force. But, The Force knew exactly what it was doing, at every stage; Anakin was 'set up' by The Force to be a Savior/Messiah/human sacrifice (to save the Universe) from Day One.
Although a lot of people view Darth Vader as a 'bad guy', when you look at it from this angle, he's really the victim, he was manipulated, betrayed, and lied to. A tragic story.
Obi-Wan Did not know Anakin would survive and he did not want to watch him die in front of his eyes, that is why he just left....I cry every time i watch that scene...
24:42 I think this is basically what the reason is for people renouncing the Republic and joining the Seperatist, which formed partialy because of that reason.
It makes for an awesome environment to fight in, but also, sending the Separatist leaders to Mustafar was a deliberate move by palpatine, the planets themselves can have strong connections to the force, and Mustafar has a deep connection to the dark side, which helped push Anakin further into corruption.
33:58 Greivous is actually organic, the rest is basically a kind of exoskeleton and cybernetics. The reason he coughs so much is because the cybernetics are extremely irritating to his lungs.
Is the cough not from Mace Windu crushing his lungs? Or is that not cannon? I'm sure there's likely multiple reasons out there, but I believe the end of the original cartoon Clone Wars was the first.
Rico is on point, from Anakin's view, he was always doing the right thing. Like in the movie, Chancellor briefly explains how the dark side isnt bad depending on the perspective. To add to this, because the balance was so in favor of the light side, It made each person on the dark side be even more powerful as individuals, this is how Darth Vader "brings balance to the force".
Revenge Of The Sith is my absolute favorite out of the prequels. The double climactic lightsaber duels that take place toward the end of the movie. Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader VS Obi-Wan Kenobi on Mustafar and Yoda VS Emperor Palpatine on Coruscant in the Senate chamber are top notch across the board. Musical score, fight choreography, visual effects, audio effects and emotional impact. I give them all an A+.
In the original cartoon Clone Wars (2003-2005), General Grievous is coughing because as he was kidnapping the Chancellor, Mace Windu shows up and crushes his chest piece with the force and then he gets away. You guys should watch the Cartoon Network Clone Wars, really well made even though it’s not technically canon anymore.
While technically not canon, a lot of it is referenced and/or kept the same in Clone Wars 2008, which I find great. It's like they did all they could to dance around the 2003 miniseries, managing to keep a few of the greater moments almost intact. A few examples (disclaimer: I haven't read books or comics, so written material may contradict this): - The first time Ventress appears (chronologically speaking), she already knows both Obi-Wan and Anakin. In the 2003 series she meets them for the first time, and I'm glad I can take her fight with Anakin as head-canon. - During an episode you see flashbacks of Ventress' story, and you can see glimpses of scenes taken almost directly from the 2003 Clone Wars, but animated in 3D. - In Season 7 Ep. 9, when the capture of the Chancellor is referenced, the few details given match perfectly with the way it was portrayed in the miniseries.
About the Jedi not being able to see... Remember at the end of the last movie Yoda says, "the shroud of the dark side has fallen...", Essentially saying that Sidious used the dark side to cloud their vision and ability to sense the underlying plan he was orchestrating.
Simply the Jedi were too arrogant,they thought the sith were defeated and so they became lax,on the contrary the sith evolved. The Jedi still thought that the sith woul fight them with lightsabers when actually they used politics
Seing Aayla dying like that is Heart breaking. But she has not be forgotten and she will never 🥰😍 Hope to see more about (his master) Quinlan Vos soon.
it is crazy too how some of these clones were good friends with the Jedi, some even close friends. The chip that they all were implanted with when they were created forced them to execute Order 66 must have been heartbreaking for them internally.
Need fact: the clones were brainwashed to only execute order 66 at the emperor’s command and no one else. So up until that point they’re trust and support for the Jedi was real.
In my opinion,, Anakin tried and tried a lot to do the things right... but he always has been excluded... they´re afraid of him but they pulled a lot to the edge...
Loved this reaction, loved the way y’all understood the movie, it was a joy seeing y’all predict some moments and amazed at some moments throughout the movie. It’s definitely many fans favorite Star Wars movie because of how dark and how much action there was. My favorite part was the musical score, it was on another level this episode. I hope you guys watch Rogue One and maybe the Mandalorian, it’ll be great to see how y’all react to them.
One way they didn’t see it coming was the fact that none of the clones felt any malice towards the Jedi when given the order. It was basically “okay, we’ll get it done.”
17:17 to answer your question, yes, it does affect him losing his arm.it’s the reason darth Vader can’t use force lightning, because he has no real arms to produce it out of. But other force abilities he doesn’t need his arms for, he just uses them to help him focus. The main difference was anakins over all strength and potential dropped a lot cause of his loss in such a large amount of body tissue
Anakin started his life as a slave and after all his accomplishments he finds himself a slave again at the end of this movie, the suit a prison he can't escape from.
if you look back at 1:12:32 he only says to wipe the protocol droids mind he never said the astromech so good old R2D2 has been purposely keeping C3P0 in the dark all the way from lukes birth and by extension the entire rebel alliance on the details of what happened lol so he indeed could be considered the "main character" as he's seen everything from attack of the clones all the way till ep 9
R2 was around since Queen Amidalas ship escaped the trade federation's blockade at Naboo, so he was even present for the beginnings of the Sith's rise to power.
I’ve heard some fans say that R2D2 is the being that writes the opening text for each Star Wars movie. In the future R2 will write the story of the Star Wars saga.
42:16 the reason why those guys just stand there is because palpatine used force scream which stuns those that hear it. Only windu was able to fully stave it off.
Palpatine's plan was centuries and generations in the making. There is a fantastic book about Darth Plagueis (mentioned in this movie) that goes into details on how that plan got put into place. It was a plan handed down from sith to sith and enacted methodically. Palpatine was just the final sith when the great trap went off. You really have to hand it to George Lucas for thinking all this up. Truly amazing to behold, imo.
You probably missed it but when Master Windu said he's too dangerous to be left alive, it's what made Anakin think there is no difference between a Jedi and a Sith cause Darth Sidius said the same thing when Anakin killed Dooku
@@niccologregorutti Yeah that's something I never understood. I mean yeah Anakin was naive, but not entirely stupid. How is it he could go 20+ years and not realize a life support suit isn't meant to torture you. I mean, even a stunned womprat would have figured it out eventually.
@@AlextheHistorian I think he realised it immediately,also because Anakin is very intelligent in his own way. But whether he knew or not,he was stuck with it anyway,so he was kept alive in an extremely advanced armor that tortured him,thus allowing him to draw more power from his feelings of pain and suffering,so he was fine with it
After finishing off these movies, you guys have to see the Obi-wan Kenobi tv series which takes place 10 years after these events and that stars the same actors. There's also the 7th, 8th, and 9th movies in the saga which take place 30 years after the events of Revenge of the Sith! Also there's Rogue One which takes place between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope, which stars an entirely new cast but nonetheless connects a few points between the movies. That's not to mention The Clone Wars series and the spin-off series like Book of Boba Fett and The Mandalorian. If I could make a recommendation for the order of watching the next several movies and shows based on what I think is the general consensus in the Star Wars community and based on how much you recall from the episodes 4, 5, and 6, the order should be: - Rogue One - Force Awakens (Ep. 7) - The Last Jedi (Ep. 8) - The Rise of Skywalker (Ep. 9) - The Clone Wars (this might take a while and is animated so don't know how you feel about that. It will give you a much more in depth picture of the events that transpired between Episodes 2 and 3, and will also provide much more back story into Anakin and Obi-Wan's relationship not to mention Anakin's padawan. This series is great and helps clarify a lot of things that go on in the movies and tv shows) - Obi-Wan Kenobi tv series - The Mandalorian tv series - Book of Boba Fett tv series (If you don't recall, Boba Fett was a minor character that appeared in the original trilogy that didn't necessarily have a huge role but that would grow very popular with the Star Wars fanbase. If you recall, he appeared as a kid in Episode 2 and was the clone son of Jango Fett, the Bounty Hunter in that movie. You don't need to watch the original trilogy necessarily as the show provides enough flashbacks, but it might help.) Also, the prevailing theory as to why Obi-wan let Darth Vader live is that he still saw him as his brother. He had just lost everything he knew at the hands of what he considered to be his closest friend and brother and was just too emotionally broken and couldn't muster up the courage to deliver the final blow as he said to Yoda. On the flip side, he was also incredibly overwhelmed with grief, anger, and heartbreak that Anakin killed so many innocent jedi that he thought letting Anakin burn was deserved. It's understandable as well that given the severity of Vader's injuries that he assumed that he was succumb to his injuries soon after.
The reason the Jedi don’t seem to see the recognize what’s going on is cause the capital city of corasaunt was built on top of a dark side temple. Plus the chancellor is the one started this from the beginning.he’s very powerful. He’s helping to cloud the judgement.
The Clone War raged for over 3 years. I recommend watching the animated series, followed immediately by The Bad Batch (the run back to back, timeline wise). I'm just finding your channel, so I don't know what all you've seen already, so I'll just include some stuff from this movie alone, and put the complete timeline at the bottom. Don't discount/overlook the animated shows. I did, and regretted missing out on their initial run. But at least I was able to binge-watch them. If you've already seen the original trilogy, you should watch them again after everything leading up to them, as those movies and shows put the OT into a whole new context. Episode I, Episode II, The Clone Wars (animated), Episode III, The Bad Batch (animated), Solo: A Star Wars Story, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Andor, Rebels (animated), Rogue One, Episode IV, Episode V, Episode VI, The Mandalorian (seasons 1 and 2), The Book of Boba Fett, The Mandalorian (season 3), (Ahsoka and Skeleton Crew have yet to release, but are supposed to be in this part of the timeline), Episode VII, Episode VIII, Episode IX.
Honestly i watched many reactions of ROS but your reaction is the first the i watch the entire video. I love how both of you talk about everything in the movie, this is the reason i needed to watching the whole video. Great reaction!
Fun fact about the clone orders: Order 66 was to destroy the Jedi in case if an insurrection or a rogue Jedi...... Order 65 was to dispose of the Supreme Chancellor..... other orders even had genocide in them in case of an emergency
The force comes from living cells when he lost his arm he had to learn how to feel the force thru it and when he became Vader the similar thing happened his connection to the force was dimmer but he made himself stronger by channeling his hate
Also when he got mad because we wasn't made a master, the context they don't show is masters have access to the restricted part of the archives and he things there's a way to save padme there
Sending Luke to Tatooine is a really smart move, because they know that Darth Vader doesn't want to go back there, partly because of the painful memory of not being able to save his mother, but mostly because he doesn't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
First time I watched this when I caught that Sidious said "I have the power to save the one you love" and then as he is giving Anakin his Darth Vader title. He then says "I know we can discover the secret" and then later when he tells him to murder the Jedi and Separatists, I was going "Dude. He is changing his words. He is stringing you along like a person with a string plays with a cat"
This film is seriously underrated. I’ve been watching this film over and over, ever since I was a child, and I’ve analysed it countless times, and I think it’s superb. Sure, it may not be perfect, but it comes pretty dam close. And a lot of the aspects of the film that some people complain about actually make sense if you put them into context. Plus, I think Hayden Christensen gave a spectacular performance.
Telling him that he wouldn't be a master was a test to see how he would react. And he failed by saying it was unfair he would have past if he would have just said ok and did what they said and except it.
General Grievous was a human turned droid, you can see some human parts still when his chest is opened. Count dooku created him to be a Force sensitive droid who could use 4 lightsabers he planned to use him to overthrow the emperor. Sadly Grievous couldn’t possess the force so that plan never came to pass.
1:13:14 actually their health insurance isn’t great or at least palpatine made sure vaders suit was as agonizing as possible for him. His new limbs don’t fit his body correctly and they bring him pain constantly. And he did that so vader would continue to use that pain and anger to channel the dark side but also because it would make it almost impossible for him to surpass Palpatine in strength with the force.
the Jedi are losing their connection to the force because they started becoming too political, and they lost their way. They really became more like the Sith in so many ways. They became soldiers instead of peace keepers. That's why when a threat came, they couldn't use the force appropriately to see it. even Yoda.
That's not what happened. The Jedi lost their connection to the force because Palpatine, and Plagues threw the force out of balance on purpose to cloud the Jedi's vision and inact their Sith grand plan. It had nothing to do with the Jedi. Palpatine also forced the Jedi into a position where they had no choice but to become soldiers out of necessity. It was all just a perfect plan that was almost inescapable. The Jedi were obviously correct in the way they kept Anakin at arms length, but if Anakin would have just stayed in the council chambers Sidious would have lost, and Anakin would have immediately became a Jedi Master after the war. George Lucas talks about how the existence of the Sith actually affects the force, and it can't be put back into balance until the Sith are destroyed.
@@donavonhoward114 no I don't think so. The same reason Quigon Jinn kept going against the the council, and the same reason Count Dooku, left the Jedi Order. Even Qui-Gon started to see the Jedi as losing their way. They strayed from a righteous path and started feeding into the influence and power that they had. There were star systems suffering all around them, but they Jedi bonded themselves into the politics of the world and forgot their true purpose. Dooku said he believed that Qui-gon would have joined him, and I think he was right. Though Qui-gon probably wouldn't have actually been fully persuaded by the dark side
@@tibiaspardon I completely agree with you, the Jedi had become too dogmatic, arrogant, and too detached from others. Their hypocrisy is that while they forbid attachments they were too ‘attached’ to the Republic and the power that it gave them. In the novel Yoda realized that the Jedi had lost a long time ago. The Sith had evolved, whereas the Jedi had only trained to fight the last battle. Yoda realized that he was partially at fault because he didn’t allow the Order to change, to evolve. They failed to see that the galaxy was changing, that people had lost faith in the Republic.
7:27 It’s kindve refreshing, because all the pressure is on The Count this time to beat both anikan AND Obi-wan, at the same time, again for the rematch (2 elite Jedi Knights and decorated war heroes mind you). This early in the movie too, you already knew he wasn’t getting out of that one alive. Pretty lucky for even taking down Obi a second time if you ask me… 21:06 People knock the prequels for funny stuff like the acting, plotholes, yeahhh it’s not as iconic as the OG movies, wtvr. But I’m ngl, I felt for anikan in this one because he’s risked his ass many of times for the war, the Jedi and in the name of the Republic. He’s bled for this and he’s even got his stripes with the council and his battle wounds, he should be a made guy at this point!!! The audacity of mace, and the order amazes me. Like why not bring him in closer to you if you sense “GrAvE dAnGeRrr”. Putting him on a mission closer to the chancellor is so cancerous, and mace even said “I don’t think he can handle it” LOLLL
In the novel, when Mace Windu and company go to arrest the Chancellor, and he spins through the air and cuts down 3 of the Jedi really quick, he's actually using a force ability and is moving EXTREMELY fast (hard to do on film). That's why they didn't put up much of a fight and also why Palps makes that howling noise while spinning through the air. Hope that provides a little more insight :)
When I clicked onto this video. I didn't expect much but just another reaction video with people going ooo ah and being surprised with the story. However, I was wrong, and you guys impressed me with how emotionally invested you were with understanding the characters and predictions for the story. Its the best reaction I have ever seen for anything, and I look forward to watching more of your videos.
@@cambelloroxy9420 yes. That was the final straw to be honest. I really don’t like Ahsoka as a character so having her come back and be prominent in the conclusion really put the seal on it for me. I also really disliked the Mandalore arc, and Maul being brought back from the dead so essentially the last couple of stories were a real struggle 😂
@@FluffyJackie I didn’t say nobody should watch it, I just disagreed that it’s essential watching for anyone. But I have noticed some fans of the show are quite “weird” about it and don’t accept that anyone could watch it and not like it.
I feel like it’s not spoken about enough but when Anakin ignites his lightsaber when he finds the younglings, instead of the standard Jedi lightsaber ignition it has a slight hiss like other Sith lightsabers. I always liked that little detail
As someone who struggles with extreme paranoia, it amazes me how every piece of dialogue past the intro sequence including Anakin has some way of making him doubt himself or the jedi. How his trust is slowly dismantled and becomes more and more disrespected. I believe this is the best star wars movie because of those intricacies and watching Anakin's deterioration really hits home. (Please watch Rogue One and the Obi Wan series + sorry for getting semi emotional)
Also, my thoughts on them not granting him the rank of master. While yes, I can certainly understand his reaction and why he felt insulted, his reaction was also proof that he isn't nearly mature enough to have earned the title he wants. He chose to look at it as an insult rather than the fact that he's the first ever to be put on the council as just a knight. He was prideful rather than being humble.
Haven't seen anyone comment on it but at 17:40 Rico asks if you need your limbs to commune with the force and the answer is yes. George Lucas has confirmed that Anakin was at least double the power of Palpatine. After he lost all his limbs he was down to about 80% of Palpatine's power. Midichlorians live inside cells. Less cells means less power.
I highly recommend you guys watch the clone wars series. I think you guys will love and it really nails down the hidden plots between the movies and is important to the overall Star Wars story 👍 great reaction
Anakin was the chosen one and he completely fulfilled the prophecy. He was to bring balance to the Force.. The force was overwhelmed in the light and when he was done it was back in balance.
I appreciate that y’all understand how disrespectful Mace and the other council members were to Anakin during the scene of him being on the council and not granted the rank of master. Usually people say Anakin is being a baby but it’s a spit in the face to him.
Yes but the council could see that Anakin's desire to be the rank of master in itself was a spit in the face of Jedi teachings. They teach to be selfless, and have no attachments. They sensed how badly Anakin wanted power and how much fear dwelled inside him, they knew he was the perfect pressure vessel for the darkside to grow. If Anakin was truly a Jedi, he wouldn't have felt insulted at being on the council and not being a master.
@@AlextheHistorian First he didn’t want to be a master for selfish reasons, he wanted to save Padme and in order to do that he would have to be a master to gain access to the restricted section of the library where the secrets are. It’s either that or go with the Sith Lord and kill all the Jedi soooo pick your poison. Second of course he should feel insulted, as explained in the film never in the history of the Jedi has a Jedi been on the council and not granted the rank of master. Anakin matured over the four year time period of the clone wars, he trained Ahsoka into becoming a powerful force user, he defeated Dooku, he turned the tide of major battles to victories for the Republic, he was the poster boy for the Republic, and he saved multiple Jedi during the war, the only argument people can make for him not being a master is his “whining” and “outburst” for his rejection. Ok then I ask what would you do or how would you act if you were the best employee at a company and you ask for a promotion given you worked for so long and hard and the boss rejects you? It’s the same scenario, Anakin deserved the rank, hell he was already a master to Ahsoka and many other Jedi called him Master Skywalker because of this. One of the major requests for being a master on the council is to train a padawan which Anakin did.
@@bobafett1313 "In some ways...a lot of ways...I'm ahead of him. I'm ready for the trials, but he thinks Im too unpredictable." "It's all Obi-wans fault! He's jealous, he's holding me back!" "I will be the most powerful jedi ever! I promise you. I will even learn to stop people from dying." -All quotes, from Episode II. Proving Anakin has no patience, he wants to be at the top. He craves power, always has, it's just become more apparent as he got older. He defies Obi-Wan again and again because he only thinks about himself and what he wants. He chose to become a Jedi, a life which requires complete devotion to service, but he lied about his love affair and later marriage to Padme, willing to risk his position AND hers as Senator for his own selfish desires. "I'm tired of all this deception. I dont care if they know we're married." -Anakin Episode III. Proof of his inward thinking, his focus on what he desires, rather than his or her devotion to the Republic. "A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, hmm? The most serious mind... ...Adventure. Ha! Excitement. Ha! A Jedi craves not these things." -Yoda Episode V. So as you can see, Yoda and even Mace Windu, guided by what a true jedi is, how he thinks and acts, knew that Anakin hardly belonged on the counsel, let alone granting him the rank of Master. They never trusted him from the minute they laid eyes on him. "Grave danger, I fear, in his training!" -Yoda Episode I.
@@AlextheHistorian I love how you used quotes from episode 2, you do realize episode 2 took place before the clone wars… right? Four years before ROTS. Now the quote you use in episode 3 is when he is talking to Padme who is his…. Wait for it… drumroll please…. WIFE. You do understand that Anakin and Padme are in a secret relationship in which they can’t openly love one another. Your telling me that if you were in a secret relationship with someone your madly in love with you could just bite the bullet for the rest of your life? Yea ok sure. I also love how you think Mace is the best of the Jedi, how about you watch Tales of the Jedi before making that claim friend. He was nothing more than a boot licker to the code and cared little for anything but the code. The series proved that Dooku cared more for the people of the Republic than Mace ever did. Mace and Ki Adi Mundi both only cared about the code and the Order rather than the good of the galaxy. Yoda on the other hand gave Anakin the worst advise possible. Anakin went to Yoda proving that Anakin had the rational thinking to seek the wisdom of someone wiser than he and Yoda flat out told him to let go of those he loved…. Yea worst advice ever. The only person, besides Obi Wan and Ahsoka and Padme, that actually cared about Anakin (or at least made Anakin believe he cared) was Palps who proved a point to Anakin by telling the council that he should be the one who lead the defense on Kashyyke. The council denied him which was a punch in the gut, they stated that someone with more experience should lead the campaign….. I’m sorry did everyone forget Anakin’s actions during the clone wars. Anakin has more experience than most on the council. If you can bring solid proof that Anakin was not ready outside of quotes four years before the clone wars I’d appreciate it.
@@bobafett1313 asking me to empathize with Anakin is not helpful. I am not a jedi. If I were truly a jedi, I would not condone how Anakin thinks and feels. And the quotes I used were meant to show what Anakin was like. If I can't quote a George Lucas Star Wars film, then there's no point to the rest of this conversation. Besides, I made my points. A true jedi doesn't act like Anakin, but your point is "how would you feel if you were him?" I don't care how he feels, a Jedi is not supposed to feel what Anakin feels, ergo he was never going to be a true jedi and therefore he did not belong on that council let alone be considered a master.
Palpatine/ Darth Sidious used the knowledge from his master to keep people from dying by keeping Darth Vader alive, he took the life from Padmé using Force Leach and gave it to Vader keeping Vader alive, he then lies to Vader saying that vader killed her this makes Vader hate himself anchoring himself to the dark, his suit also was designed by Palpatine to keep Vader in constant pain diminishing his power so that Vader would never become more powerful than himself and kill him which he eventually does sacrificing himself, destroying both Sith in the process fulfilling the prophecy as Anakin has been light then dark and turned back to light (balance)
Now that you have seen this movie, you are now obliged to respond to everyone that says "Hello there" with "General Kenobi". Join the prequel memers. The Clone Wars really makes this movie so much better.
Anakin didn't killed Padmé, Sidious used Sith's powers to transfer her life force to Vader to keep him alive long alive for an operation, he could do it because their connection
fun fact: both Hayden and Ewan made all the fighting sequence by themselves, and they had to slow a bit cause the camera wouldn't catch their movements, lol and about Obi-Wan not killing Anakin, i think he still was acting by his Jedi dogma: Jedis don't kill unarmed enemies, only in the middle of the battle while defending themselves.
Aside from Anakin wanting more power to save padme because of his visions. The jedi were also at fault for numerous reasons. They knew he was the chosen one, or the prophecy says, yet they did not help his mother, they did rank him to master, they made him spy on the chancellor as a spy which looks rly dishonorable for a jedi, the council doesn't trust him and other reasons, which is why he looked to the chancellor for guidance as he was friendly
There is the quote "In many ways, the prequels are the story of an arrogant religion who get ahold of the messiah and then accidentally hand him over to the devil." and I think that is such an amazingly accurate description of this trilogy. Of course, the Jedi could not be sure about Anakin. They could not know that he really was the Chosen One and they had reason to be careful. But ultimately they did everything in their power to push Anakin further and further away from the Order. They knew that he was actively being groomed by a powerful man they didn't trust to begin with, and still they just let that all happen. Anakin's downfall was in no way his own fault. That one is completely on the Jedi Council. They didn't need to treat him like a messiah. But for all their fear of how badly things COULD go with Anakin, they were completely blind to how badly thing were already going under their watch.
@@DerLetzteMonarch Exactly, I wholeheartedly agree with your points. The Jedi had become too dogmatic, arrogant, and too detached from others. Their hypocrisy is that they forbid attachments yet they were too attached to the Republic and the power that it gave them. Yoda also failed because he didn’t allow the Order to change, whereas the Sith had evolved. Also the Jedi were so afraid of the Sith and what Anakin might become that they ended up making it all happen. That’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. As Yoda later realized afterwards they were so focused on the future that they forgot to keep their concentration “here and now where it belongs” (Qui Gon), and that was one of the reasons they didn’t see what was right in front of them, that being Darth Sidious. Indeed the Jedi had failed Anakin, they didn’t show him any trust or give him the emotional support that he needed. They never made him feel included, the Council treated him disdain from the first time he arrived at the temple.
1:12:54 Btw, the death star was already in planing from before the clone wars even began, btw, as you can see in Episode II and the cancelled clone wars Utapau story arc.
ever since i saw you finally started watching the first one i was so exited for you to see this i knew you'd love this ending, explaining everything also i love how you realized that what actually killed padme was anakin himself, cause i know a lot of people dont immediately understand why she died i love this movie especiall cause of the last scenes of obi wan and anakin, seeing them both so hurt, their acting was amazing
Rico, it sounded at the end there like you're planning to watch some non-movie Star Wars content (awesome!). If Monica doesn't join you for the entirety of The Clone Wars, she should at the very least watch the initial direct-to-TV movie (Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008)) to get introduced to the main new character they introduce, and then join you for a couple of the 4-episode story arcs: the final four episodes of season 5, and the final four of season 7 (which are utterly superb).
This is where the fun begins!!!! Man, I hope one day you two will watch the Clone War series! It gives a lot of essential context to what happens before and during events of this film! Regardless, hope you two like it! 🙏🏽💪
You: "I just don't understand why he left him alive." Obi Wan: "I will not kill Anakin." Yoda: "Then we have already lost." Obi Wan: "You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you!" Obi Wan didn't kill Anakin because he couldn't bring himself to do it. Should he have killed Anakin? It may have been the smart and strategic thing to do, but he just couldn't do it. Yoda: "Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose." The jedi are supposed to be dispassionate and avoid attachments. They are trained their entire lives to avoid strong emotion at all costs. They are trained like this for this very reason. Obi Wan loved Anakin, and you can see how it cost him. Also, look what it did to Anakin.
