Watching The HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME** Disney's darkest film...? (reaction) 

What they don't tell you is that this is the light version. Read the book and alot of 'good guys' in this movie are FAR from good in the book...they had to tone it down soooo much. Don't get me wrong, this is one of the best of Disney's work and the voice actors were amazing, all of them. Oh and gypsy is an offensive term for the Romani. Kinda like... the well, there are racist words for every race. The priest was in Beauty and the Beast, there was Cogsworth :) And Demi Moore was Esmerelda.

There's a darker disney movie called the black cauldron

Plz watch avatar the last Airbender

It's addicting

i HIGHLY recommend the Annapantsu cover of hell fire

The horned king is the scariest villian

I told this very reason to a friend when they asked me who I thought was Disney most frightening movie.

A lot of people act like Scar too

Ye

I agree

Say it again lol 😂

Frollo didn't want to marry Esmeralda. He had a disturbing fetish for her. He wanted her as a slave to please him.

@@summerrose8110 it was really just that he found her tempting cuz she is beautiful but like he’s gross about it

@@reinagarcia9693 true

@@foodislife479 YES DO IT!!

That makes sense since they both slap

The team that created this song is extraordinary. Disney knows how to pick these teams. This soundtrack is easily the most beautiful Disney soundtracks ever

@@LA_HA Still what were the smoking when they wrote a guy like you? This ain’t Beauty and the Beast and honestly that would be an insult to Be our Guest. They hit the nail on the head with every other song in this movie. How did they miss so badly?😆😆😆

@@hydrokineticpowerhouse Good lord, can we Please pretend that horrible song doesn't exist? Uuuugh. I will choose to believe the team was forced to write it under pain of being imprisoned at a CIA black site, so had no choice but to do it. You can't think clearly under threats like that, right? Right???? haha

That is incorrect. While perhaps not as memorable to most there were other villain songs made between this movie and the princess and the frog movie.

Yea Frollo is way outta there from the villains Disney produces these days.. he was a good villain though.

@@LakiaJaiTV may i suggest another underrated animated movie that is actually a non disney + Spanish animated film with a USA NASA SETTING ELEMENT and won the Spanish academy award for best animated film?

Why not?

Hal from Megamind is a realistic villain. He's not like Frollo, but he's pretty realistic.

@@Mari17897 fair

*wheezes*

This cracked me up considering *SPOILER for HOND stage musical* Quasimodo literally threw Frollo to his death in the stage musical!

that's right 😂😂😂

*Better scramble like an egg before you get folded like an omelette*

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Maybe they mean Hans is the worst as in He isn’t a good villain lol. anyone who thinks Hans is the best villain is probably from this generation and never seen an older Disney film.

But he was right for one point : people are afraid by Quasimodo without know him. The scene of the humiliation show us humans are sheeps

Also Frollo was commiting genocide which included the death of Quasis own mother.

@@andrewjodon1433 right, like people were like “OmG Hans wAs going to sTab Elsa he is the most evil villiaN” but frollo here BURNED a whole city to the ground and killed a lot innocent people for YEARS

If I haven't knew frollo I would put Mother Gothel up there😅

Yea he definitely wants her in an inappropriate way lol

It even more creepy as Esamelda is 16 years old

@@sadeevans9537 in the orginal yes but the ages in the disney version are diffrent as can be seen on disney wikia

@@BeanSparrow Yes, she's definitely an adult in this version. He's creepy, but not That creepy...in This version

yeaaaah, he tried to "r word" her

This movie gave Quasimodo and Esmeralda the hope that the book took from them.

I mean... Esmeralda is Quasimodo's love interst, they just dont end up together

@@unikracoon1913 You don't get it. They're better as friends.

@@summerrose8110 I agree but she is his love interest, as in there relationship is part of the intrigue of the movie. that's what love interest means

@@unikracoon1913 I'm not stupid. I know what love interest means, but you're missing the point of the film.

*laughs in earlier disney films*

I read this just as the last captain of the guard was being whipped offscreen. Accurate 🤣

Enjoy your 666th like for this comment. I find the moment to be quite... topical.

Ohh yeahh I remember

Omg, the book is soooooo tragic. I grew up on so many movies about Quasimodo (the Charles Laughton/Maureen O'Hara version was always my favorite) and was SHOCKED when my father told me how the book ended. I read it afterwards, and it was even sadder than I had been told.

Yeah, really dark! Especially about Quasimodo.

I really hate how Disney portrayed Phoebus as a hero so they could pair Esmeralda with him instead with the deformed Quasimodo (who was actually the *ONLY* person who cared for her). Disney ignore the fact that Phoebus was also the reason why she died in the book. He was always cheating on his fiance, was only interested on Esmeralda because he wanted to take her virginity (and throw her away after that) and couldn't care less that she died for a crime she never committed. *He NEVER helped her.*

@@konanxhidan3202 Okay, yeah, but there's SOOOOO much different from the original Victor Hugo work that it isn't a problem (in my eyes) that Phoebus is a hero here in Disney's Hunchback. Now, if he didn't do anything heroic in this movie and only wanted Esmeralda's virginity and STILL ended up with her, then that'd be screwed up, but that's not what happens. In the movie, Phoebus DOES help Esmeralda, and their developing romance is consensual and mutual (fast, too, but that's just Disney). It doesn't really make sense to be mad about this change because Hunchback is so radically different from La Notre Dame de Paris down to the message, theme, characterizations, etc. It's so different that it's like comparing Harry Potter with Game of Thrones. Both are fantasy, both have magic, both have death/killing. Disney's Hunchback is basically fan fiction set in an AU of La Notre Dame de Paris in which the fan writer has changed the genre and wanted to focus on the hunchback and how cool his story could be if he were the main character. Actually, it's a fan fiction of another fan work--the Hunchback comic published decades ago. My point is that it doesn't make sense to be mad about this adaptation change because Pheobus isn't that terrible person in Disney's Hunchback, and the change isn't romanticizing cheating or being a terrible person. Additionally, the point of the original work was to say that buildings have history, and we shouldn't tear down old architecture. Disney's Hunchback's point/theme is heavily focused on justice. Why get angry about a character who only shares the same name with a terrible person in an entirely different text? The characterizations are entirely different--opposite, even. Jerk-Phoebus had no place in a Disney movie focused on justice, so he was altered into a decent person/left out entirely. P.S. If Quasimodo got Esmeralda, then that would support/defend/embolden jerks who whine about the friendzone. "I cared about you, so you have to be my girlfriend!" What Quasimodo needed was acceptance, not a romantic relationship, and that's exactly what he was rewarded with at the end.

@@konanxhidan3202 Esmeralda also wasn't that nice of a girl in the book, she didn't even like Quasi. And Quasimodo was super obssessed with her. Also, they both died alongside Frollo in the book. So, if you wanted the book, we would get a whole other story. Phoebus wasn't the only one severily changed. All of them were.

It also examines the Madonna-Whore Complex trope. Frollo sees Esmeralda as a whore. Quasi sees Esmeralda as a Madonna. Phoebus sees Esmeralda as a person and so is the one Esmeralda chooses. Frollo can't accept rejection. Quasi has trouble accepting rejection at first, but prioritizes Esmeralda's happiness. Because of that, Quasi gets to keep Esmeralda's friendship. I think it's beautify.

​​​@@konanxhidan3202THIS IS NOT THE FUCKING BOOK. IN THE BOOKS FROLLO WAS ALSO MORE SYMPATHETIC... ESMERALDA DIDNT LIKE QUASIMODO IN THE BOOKS SHE WAS ALWAYS SCARED OF HIM QUASIMODO IN THE BOOKS IS DEAF

Totally.🙌😬

The meaning behind this makes it so much better Basicly he in his own fucked up way loves her and wants to saver her but he sees her as a sinner and is dragging him down with her so in the bible the flames of hell burns away the slag of sin aka i burns away your sin so throw his eye's he will save if she chooses him or he will save her by burning her sins away and let god save her but in his song were he smothered her scarf he believes he's damming him self to hell for this by acting in place of god He's post to be a evil insane but tragic villion

Entitlement.... also if you have a bunch of Yasmin around you all your life saying that you’re the supreme leader all your life your ego will skyrocket... I have Roto and I’m not giving him an excuse he had so much narcissistic personality disorder just wreaking off of him... I hate him but like he’s a good villain if you get what I mean.

@@thelonesomegrifter6718 nah i understand

It's Frollo

Yeah, Esmerelda prays for the things people SHOULD pray for

She is a QUEEN I’m not religious I like don’t pray to a higher being due to the fact I don’t believe and that’s at higher being but Esmeralda she’s a queen she deserves happiness. And Quasimoto also deserves happiness

I would love the song anyway but as a Christian it hits even more.

@@eway44 while everyone else pray for things that can be erased over time

Yes, it shows the things other people long for and want but don’t need. Then esmeralda cuts through all of that with “I ask for nothing!” Showing she has enough to live and she doesn’t need more than that but other people need some assistance and they’re the ones society turns a blind eye to

Frollo 🤝 Mother Gothel

@@Sam-0827 I swear they would’ve been best friends lmao

They're both selfish, narcicistic, manipulateive gaslighters, match made in hell.

Do you think the movie 'Tangled' was inspired by this?

@@ebaugh7320 no bc it’s based off of “Rapunzel” a German fairytale published by the brothers Grimm in 1812. Same goes for the “Barbie as rapunzel” movie. (Btw sorry if this came off as rude. That wasn’t my intention.)

Yeah think their called travellers now theirs the traditional travelers with the dark skin and hair like Clopin and Esmeralda and the. the Irish travellers you see on my big fat Gypsy wedding

Hey, you're here! 😀

Many desi consider “g*psy” a slur

Just to add, the Roma are a community, a people that would consider themselves to be different and have chosen to retain their Culture and ways by living and marring almost exclusively amongst themselves. They have done this for centuries. Because the Culture remained separated it had specific ways of dress, adornment, language,, manner,lifestyle,values, and standards that were partcular and identifiable by those outside it. They have adopted some things from outside the original culture, but reinterpreted it, putting their stamp on it,making it still an identifier. There are several communities in Europe, England Ireland and North America from my understanding, where they mostly live an updated version of the same way they always have. And are fiercely proud and one might say uncompromising in their History, Culture and Lifestyle.

@@LucianCorrvinus Thanks for the info but, England and Ireland are also Europe lol

Wow I thought she'd just be killed, there's so much more information there

Well, she also stupidly gave herself away because she was infatuated with Phoebus who, in the book, was a total Chad who just wanted her for a one night stand.🤦‍♀️

Yeah. Like... Book Esmeralda isn't really a "YASS REBELLION" type of girl either. She's just trying to vibe, but no one will let her.

Well she wasn't burned, she was hanged. And what makes it worse is that her adopted dad, Clopin (the jester guy in the movie) tried to save her, but he got killed before he could reach her. Then after her death, Quasi kills Frollo and then lays down next to Esmeralda's body and basically dies of exposure. They definitely couldn't have all that in the Disney version, though.

I remember finding this out when reading some parts in the book to compare it to the movie in middle school and having my childhood ruined from finding that out. It was so depressing-I felt so bad for her. Plus her poor mother. Sees her for 5 second before being helpless but to watch her get burned at the stake.

Oh god! I'm glad they changed it.

Actually if they made an uncensored version I'd love to see it

@@Gachaco. The pervs are fuming 🤦🏽‍♂️

@@fireflymiesumae she’s 16 💀💀

@@knittz around 20 in this movie though

See, you get it! Quasi is capable of prioritizing Esmeralda being happy over his own happiness, and that shows how mature, kind, caring and thoughtful he is, in stark contrast to Frollo. True love means thinking of someone else first, yourself second, and Quasi gets that.

His name is Tom Hulce (Quasimodo’s VA) who played Mozart in 1984’s Amadeus

@@EB1493 thank you! I could not remember his name for some reason xD

I'd say that it's Quasimodo who's one of Disney's most underrated characters, as he isn't given the credit he deserves for how entertaining he is. He leads the movie brilliantly and really is a character that should be talked about more.

@@elamplough1I agree, i hope this movie gets the live action treatment

@@renny2049 Maybe but if Disney does ever choose to do so then they better make a lot of careful decisions in the process. Live action remakes of animated movies either seem to be fantastic or just plain terrible - I've never seen a halfway point.

Agreed 😊

I just wish they wrote the side character gargoyles differently... or not at all 😬 I get why they did it but it kinda ruins the whole tone of the movie. Like disney was too scared to really go there

I’m pretty sure it was a universal horror film once lol

@@megteg I understand but at the same time it’s Disney... they’re aware of who their audience is. If they were to make a more adult version though I’d definitely be intrigued.

@@phxsqhenes oh yes I can understand that- but even if you look at like, studio ghibli (can’t spell sorry), they have childlike elements along with adult themes but I don’t feel like they get so ridiculous and goofy 🤷🏻‍♀️ just my personal opinion though. I can totally see where you are coming from

To be correct, Esmeralda is hanged in the original Novel.

Wtf, that's so sad

@@rebeccaschneider5223 thank You, i forgot that part. Its been more than 10 years since i read the original, so Dont Remember everything, except some parts :)

Oh my God!

esmeralda was also actually a french girl. so she isn't a woman of color. Her real name was Agnès. she was kidnapped by the gypsies as a little baby. They replaced her with their own baby in Quasimodo.

Agreed 👌🏾

Facts

Period 💎

@@LakiaJaiTV IKDR girl🥰💘

You should here the metal versions by Jonathan Young. I didn't think they could get better, but they ascended.

@@lonelyronin2428 There's a metal version of Outcasts?

@@RavenSutcliffe No. But there is Hellfire's and The Bells of Notre Dame's.

That's something I never understood, he doesn't look like a gypsy, I know there are gypsies with with lighter skin and blue eyes but he doesn't even look like his mum.

There’s a theory that Quasi was abandoned by his birth parents for his appearance and then adopted by that gypsy woman. That sort of thing did happen sometimes. (And then people would use the gypsies’ kindness to say, “See, evil gypsies steal children! They’ll take you away when you’re bad!”) I think that theory holds a bit more water than Quasi being an albino. Albinos can’t produce any melanin, he wouldn’t have red hair if that was the case.

ideally you dont have to look like one to be one. We never see Quazis father or his mother's parents, some things really do skip generations, so try not to think too hard about it.

I know that either in the book or the musical (don't remember which one) Quasi is actually the son of Frollo's brother. His brother ran away from home and fell in love with a romani woman. And after he died Frollo started to loathe all romani people thinking the woman was the reason his brother is dead. Maybe that's how he would get red hair. One parent caucasian and the other romani.

@@alicjajarzyna4910 wow I find this interesting

True... I love that for him lol

I love him accepting them at the end and narratively it makes sense. Esmeralda was very selfless and while Quasimodo was fighting for her Phoebus was fighting for the people. Quasi also only loved Esmerelda because she was the first person to be kind to him, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but him putting her on a pedestal and seeing her as an angel much like Frollo saw her as a wicked temptress wasn’t good either. I love the ending, this movie is a masterpiece outside of the gargoyles.

FINALLY someone else *out there* who considers this their favourite Disney film 💜 So many people seem to forget about this one.

I an?

Same with Scar's "I want" song. I always loved it the most

Definitely one of the darkest spots movies made in the 90s

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And Frollo faced a problem like the protagonists, ironically 💀 not him casually committing domestic murder

Meanwhile the book version-

Josh Gad is producing the live action version

@@curtismartin2866 I think he's starring in it too.

@@donanderson1020 Morloth88 ^_^

@@CJCroen1393 :)) thank you!! I love her comic and I’m going to be looking for it soon.

I don't think therapy exist back then.

@@allicattkitkat7519 well duh haha

@@allicattkitkat7519 closest thing was religion and that clearly didn’t always turn out well

The story's set in the Middle Ages' France, during the last years of the reign of King Louis XI in 1482 in the 15th century to be precise. Therapy was nothing if a dream back then.

If you like seeing people burn down things watch Hamilton the musical and mean girls the musical.

Like?

@@Andji1612 read it yourself. The ending will shock you. Victor Hugo version

And Joseph King of Dreams

Yess I feel like she’d love it! Prince of Egypt is top tier

Yes yes yes yes 🙌🏽

Omg yes

I agree!!!

Yea very underrated 😊

Same

And still does

The prologe scared the Shit out of me when I was a little kid 😅

When I was kid I had know idea what was going on except there was she was who or whatever was almost about to cuss at school we watched only half of it

Beauty and the beast begin in scared me as a kid and now I laugh hahah I was afraid of this as a kid what????!

Are you Romani? I've seen many Romani, including two people I know personally that are of Romani decent that said it's not a slur.

It's 50/50 if it's a slur or not. Some don't like it, some don't care about it.

yeah, they're actually called romani.

@@Emisop yea and you'll probably find a few black people that are okay with the n word but would you still say that word to any black person you see? When it comes to slurs its literally easier to just....not say them.

It's not really a slur... it's like saying Negro (NOT the N-word!!!!!) over Native American, it's just another way to refer to them. Although the term Gypsy actually had nothing to do with what society thought of their ways, it's because people thought they were from Egypt (they were from India). Still shouldn't use it nowadays because it is seen as slightly derogatory, but it's not a slur

Fair. I can recognize the villains voice and a few visually scary scenes, that's for sure

The Horned King scared me half to death as a little girl, yet it was my favorite movie of all time. It was super insanely dark!

Definitely Esmeralda is underrated

@@LakiaJaiTV "JUSTICE!!!!!" iconic

@@jodenise894 Mulan isn’t either, but the film was popular enough to add her to the lineup. This one was not, but if it was, Esmeralda would have been added for marketing reasons.

I was thinking I think she should be one she won’t take crap from no one!

well to be a PRINCESS you should NEED to be a princess its rather insulting they include mulan whos not royal by birth or marriage ditto with pocahantas its BULLSHIT yet actual disney royalty like anna and elsa get excluded i mean i GET in the little mermaid that it's just ariel the sisters are princesses too but minor characters and in the sequel they introduce her daughter who doesn't could cause introduced in a sequel but kida and elonwy need to be counted

Lol thank you 😂

Yes even the lion king was one dark movie as well

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@@Monie71793 ggghuyuhggxxddhgggggfggftggyg&ygiuhjhcfghgghggg

Thank you 😊

@@LakiaJaiTV aww you are welcome, I'll always be a subscriber 😊

The female gargoyle is voiced by Mary Wickes who'd been a character actress since the 1940s. Bunch back was her last film.

I mean, I get what you're saying, but the author was trying to call out predators in the church by putting that in his book and I think that's kind of cool. He was anti-predator in the 1400's, that's kind of awesome considering how sexist everyone was back then.

@@morganqorishchi8181 Wasn’t Hugo interestingly a sex addict though? I think I can recall hearing/reading that somewhere.

16 back then was like 25 for us, people back then died with 35

@@TheSamuelbest12 True but STILL

i vaguely remembered the movie because i was quite young, i mostly remembered it being very scary and dark.

Sameeeee💯💯

Watch the French musical Notre Dame de Paris, or if the Disney version of the musical comes to the US, watch that one.

@Will N I love all of the DPs, and I do feel bad that she was demoted. I'd add her, Kida, and Meg, though since Greece hated Hercules, I can understand why Disney didn't want to pour resources into advertising Meg, and Atlantis wasn't immediately successful at the time. I loved the family she had with Phoebus and Zephyr.

@Will N I didn't know that. Too bad it wasn't permanent.

@Will N And then they went on to do Princess Academy--too bad it didn't work out.

He was driven by what he thought were God's wishes but was really his own selfish needs and own fears. His own sins. Thus, damning him to Hell for all eternity.

@@Sonicsgirl13 😔 exactly

@@Sonicsgirl13 facts

Agreed!

Tangled too!

spoilers for the musical: in the musical, quasimodo kills frollo himself by throwing down the cathedral after esmeralda dies. that version of frollo is simultaneously more sympathetic and somehow worse than the animated version, as he is even more human.

He's also played by Patrick Page who can make anyone sympathetic

Well Disney made an artform out of toning down the Grimms fairytales and others. For example, Sleeping Beauty is actually a very dark story and Phillip isn't a good character. They also gave Fairy Godmother from Cinderella a more whimsical origin. Even here with the arguably darkest of their films It's very tame compared to the original by Victor Hugo.

Gypsies originate from Romania, they are Romani people (at least thats where they are from in the film)

@Will N I have heard of Perrault. Though I'm more familiar with the grimms versions. The spin they put on the "fairy godmother" with the magic tree was interesting. The main idea behind them was pretty much the same reason people watch scary movies. Knowing about potential dangers without actually being in danger.

@Will N I'd say partly karma and part cruel irony. It was Lady Tremaine that urged them to fit that slipper. Though it was for their envy that the birds acted.

@@charliearcher5029 actually that’s a misconception. They originated from India which is why they have darker skin and different ways of dress. They were called gypsies because it was believed they originated from Egypt. The name Romani (or Roma) is the name that was adopted for them because there is a large portion of their community that currently live and have lived in Romania for centuries. The term Romani or Roma is used for them more often now because the term gypsy is not only incorrect since they didn’t come from Egypt but it also has a negative connotation to it due to the hundred of years of it being used to degrade them

No, in the book he is 30-35 but he looks way older.

@@ladyofnoxus6733 frollo is 36 in the beginning of the movie

@@mahadsudi6863 ok I was correcting her on the book. Not the movie.

@@ladyofnoxus6733 ok then

@SimStudios Yeah I don't know where she got that he is in his 30s in the Disney film. Lol 😂 The book He just appears older because he is balding, and is stressed due to being an archdeacon and an adoptive father to quasi who is deaf, and half blind and is I believe (don't quote me) is mentally disabled.

Same lol

Lol

Really lol

Period 💎... lol

Judges had to get certified through the church in France pre-French Revolution. He may not be in the church, but somebody in the church looked at him and went, "Yeah, we should give this guy the right to run a city."

@@morganqorishchi8181 he may not have been creepy when he was certified. 🤷‍♀️

what the frick😃

In the novel she is 16 and he is 30. Still an age gap, and he looked older than his age because of stress and that he was losing his hair lol 🤣🤣🤣

esmeralda is older than quasimodo in the movie, but she IS 16 in the book. makes it even creepier.

i’m sorry what- 😀

I've seen a lot of people who were victims of grooming and assault by older people say they find Esmeralda to be an inspiration and give them hope and so I'm glad Disney left the age gap in. It showed age gaps as creepy and villainous and gave us a strong female character who refuses to be defined by this skeevy guy. I appreciate that.

Yeah it’s like that in the musical too. Personally I think the musical is the best version of the story because it incorporates the best parts of the movie and the book.

Yea I’ll say its underrated given that I never seen and I love Disney movies lol