In this Team Room video, Adam goes over the CANA PROVISIONS AR-1 Pump and how it's implemented in his water security plan. www.cana-provi... www.spiritussy...
what a banger of a video. love to see you guys do this. tactical stuff is cool and fun and definitely should be trained but this stuff will be more vital on a individual daily basis.
As always, solid information. I’m glad I found out about these pumps, now I can stop filling my cheeks with water and running back and forth from water source to camp🇺🇸
Adding a ball check valve to the end of that intake line just past the screen would do you a lot of good with priming this pump system. My background is in wildland fire, and we commonly use high-pressure pumps that need to be primed before use to prevent overheating of the pump head. Typically this is done by placing the intake hose/ check valve into the water and "jacking it" back and forth to push water into the system. Seems like a cheap add-on that would go a long way. Plus, just think of all the razzing you are missing out on from your buddy's every time you prime your pump.
They make a thing called a "shaker siphon", that uses a marble captured in a fixture. Does something similar to what you are talking about but in small scale. It takes me 2 or 3 mins to empty a 5 gal can. I have one for fuel and one for water.
I was on the invasion of Iraq where we gained ground so quickly that within a few days we were way ahead of our logistical supply lines. Let me tell you how fun it was to be chugging through the deep desert in a MOPP posture on one measly 1.5 liter bottle of water per day. Now I go heavy on water no matter what I am doing.
Great info, for sure. Our best lessons are from failure or lack -- for most who have never lacked potable water, it can be difficult to give much mental bandwidth or planning to it. Was with a few Reserve water units. To avoid sediment and trash intake, we used a floating strainer called a Dolphin on the raw water line. We'd heave an anchor into a source, then use a line & pulley off it to submerge the dolphin a couple feet ( or about half the distance from surface to bed for a shallow source ). An improvement to the Cana system might be to add a smaller version of it. Note of interest: trained with a detachment from the 5th SFG ( from Ft. Campbell KY ) at Ft. Story VA. They said that for the filtration stage when downrange, their unit used some sort of compact sand filters, much like swimming pool filters. They said they were very efficient and very easy to maintain. The three stages of water purification are Collection ( Straining ) / Filtration / Disinfection. The last stage is essential and deserves close attention to detail -- done incorrectly, it can have as bad an end result as not doing it at all.
You make a solid point, I've only used filtration in the backcountry from good/clean sources. This is a great video to make you think about a more well rounded plan. Thanks!
Also worth pointing out water collected from theater will absolutely have contaminants in it that cannot be filtered out even with a purifier. Like chemicals and other nasty things. Plus depending on the theater it might be heavily irradiated. Also if you live in say Ohio or like he said Michigan you’re screwed without a heavily advanced treatment plant. There is no portable filter that will work on water with that chemical composition.
@@totenfurwotan4478 I think what he’s trying to say is that for $800 it doesn’t clean the water and literally just moves the water from point A to point B.
Or just buy a couple $18 bilge pumps that are used in boats. Small, lightweight, not a lot of parts. You can also tie it to an end of a pole and tape your hose and wiring and then use that to get the pump off the bank away from particulates. I would imagine that pump is pretty loud too, a bilge operates totally under water and is very quiet while still able to pump hundreds of gallons per hour (gph).
I use a hand pump filter that attracted to Nalgene and Camelpack containers. It takes a while to pump, but it filters out to some ridiculous small (viruses). Took me like ~10 mins to fill 2 bottles and a pack.
As far as water on the platoon level, for all clarity sakes idk how new it is, but we have a “PWIPS” it’s two pelican cases that filter and purify 18gal an hour, no super fast, but does work for a platoon of guys, but the USMC mainly focuses on super light packable options for fireteam level, such as the MSR pumps for nalgenes, no power needed, the Pwips thing is pretty neat but isn’t man portable, it’s just shy of 160lbs for the pump itself, not a huge fan of it, but we do have an answer to platoon water
@@thwolf762 the filter doesn’t stop virus, but if your worried about that from the area you’re pulling water just chemically purify it after you run it though the pump and you’ll have theoretically the cleanest water, and that pump weighs 1lb
Ok, so hear me out: Remove the pump. Remove the power bank. Dunk the 5Gal junk in the source (maybe size a particulate filter to fit the jug mouth/cap?). Am I missing something? Could you not have a jug filled in seconds with essentially the same quality/quantity of water? At least for manpacking it... Now if this is attached to a pickup truck with a bed full of jugs/bladders, that may be a different story... but yea, not entirely seeing the $900 utility... Maybe if it was a complete carry system, like 5gal jug, pack frame, pump, power bank, etc. But not pump only. Unless your "austere" water source plan is to just pump out porta-potties/septic tanks and hope to christ your filter system is up to the task...
My question too: "Wait, why? What am I missing here?" Just cover the opening of the 5gal with a screen/mesh of some sort and dunk it. Quieter, likely faster to fill, still keeps big particulates out. Kicking myself for not thinking of the frame + 5gal combo before now though.
Also even after this is done you still need to clean the water. This just gets it into the container quickly. Its a neat idea but we're half way done. I understand it filters but can't a schmog do the same thing?
@@mathew75100 Yeah. I was expecting filtration with this setup. hell, I'll pick up a Ryobi cordless transfer pump that's compatible with all my other tools if thats all that this is doing.
Love the CANA mounting solution but I think Guzzle H20’s system is much better for these application. It handles pumping and filtration in one package, in a hard case. The idea of pumping into a container only to then have to find time and space to filter seems a bit clunky. Thoughts?
Mount it to a external frame/ packout pack/ pack board with a Jerry can or big bladder and hump it to a nearby water source where you live now, do YOUR personal process, pack it back to your home, drink it, shave with it, wash your downstairs with it. Did it work out? Need a few tweaks here and there? Now is the time. Like right now.
It’s a cool product, but not $900 cool. A hand pump isn’t impractical for individual use and this pump setup would be better served in a residence or vehicle.
What pack system is being used to transport the jug and pump? Looks like an ALICE. If so, where is the best place to source? I want to make sure I've got all the correct parts for the pack. Cheers.
You can filter and sterilize water without fancy equipment -- and I think learning that is far more important. This kind of stuff fails, and what do you do if your power source fails or you need a new filter?
This is not for filtering or sterilizing. This is for collecting a large amount of water at the source and moving it to a different source quickly. (to be filtered and purified later) Did you watch the video? There is no filter and there are multiple power options.
After some serious thought last night. I have a question about this pump. Could this be used to draw water from my well ~200 feet down??? I sure hope so. Thx.
I don't know the specs on this pump but no. Well pumps are at the bottom of the well and push the water up. No pump in the world can suck more than 14 point something feet because the atmosphere has to push the water into the vacuum created by the pump and the air only weighs enough to push 14 feet, hope that makes sense.
We live in the country and have our own well. I've always counted on that and bugging in not out. But over the last almost 30 yrs civilization/city has grown out to us. Good wake up call for me.. No plan survives contact with the enemy, so time to plan contingents. Thanks for the vid.
The Cana AR-1 looks like a great pump. Having said that, it is not worth $850 bucks! I consider that insane. I can solve the problem much similar and far cheaper than that.
You can buy the exact pump they're using for $35 + $8 for garden hose quick connects + $20 garden hose + $15 cutting board, boom $78 total for this exact setup! The "tactical" market place is so overpriced its not even funny. The funniest thing is use the words veteran owned, make a tacticool vid, then say "sf dude's are using it right now" and you'll have a line of fools with their paychecks in hand yelling gimme 🤣
@@theLeadGin Yeah, this was absolutely nuts! ...and I agree, if they paint this crap OD green, call it "Tactical", "Survivalist", etc it becomes a green light to jacking the prices up over the moon. I confronted a rather well known company for their stupid prices last year on seeds. Again just because they put survival on the package. The seeds are no different than what I was buying in bulk. The other point I made to them was pushing the buckets of vittles. Both were products with dramatically jacked prices. Although there are some applications they make it sound like the end all. Clearly the guy in charge didn't like it! I didn't care and his rebuttal was already things we know and many of us are prepared for. They're $$$ raping people that don't know any better. People MUST LEARN to be able to fix, mend, repair, make, or create yourself. If you can't, in that world your screwed anyway. People need to consider today [the now] as a dress rehearsal for SHTF tomorrow.
No because clear/ transparent hose would allow UV in & that can cause bacteria/ algae growth. That's why most rain water collection systems are black/ don't allow light through.
Also the hose has to have a certain rigidity to it, at least the inlet side so that it does not collapse down on itself when the pump is pulling water through it.
In Flint, they haven’t figured out the water crisis because they only have so much tax revenue to use to address it - not many actually live within flint proper. The federal funding was used for temporary solutions such as bottled water. I’ll put money on it that the majority of the funding went to administrative activities and temporary solutions. I live within twenty mins of Flint also.
Bro let's be honest it's the corrupt politicians taking that funding for themselves like they have on so many other things for years 🤷 -also a Michigander!
Can anybody answer me this? I've got multiple Blue water cooler jugs. If I want to fill those up but "City/County" tap water.... How long can I store them without having to manage them?? And kind of temp range (Out of sunlight) can I store them?
There's literally nothing you can't make on your own with the proper tools, time, and knowledge. Yes its expensive and you can make it cheaper (my buddy is doing it right now), but they've done all the RnD, etc for those who don't want to.
I’m not saying you should make it, but you obviously can. I’m saying that I think the price point is insane given the components. It’s also not the correct application for that pump, and I have reservations about longevity given the task of pumping dirty water from austere sources. RV/boat pumps are meant to pump clean water from remote tanks in vehicles/vessels, not pull dirty pond water with potentially significant lift height.
@@Coffee_AddictBMX What's not true? I literally just said you can make it cheaper. The original is expensive because they've done all the work for those what want an off the shelf solution.
I have sourced Everything you show with this pump unit, pump, hose, quick connect, strainer, dc to dc and switch. All in around $200 so HOW is it priced at $900 😅😅😅
Question for you that's a little off topic, when you run soft body armor, for your side plates, what brand would you run? I just picked up some side plates and want to run soft armor panals behind it. Thank you
I’m definitely in support of having the prepared mindset and love your videos but this is a $900 pump that doesn’t clean the water…..I think it’s a cool idea but definitely not $900 cool and why can’t I just dunk the septer can in the water?
Shill: water pump. Water is important Me: hmm. Water is important. With this I could maintain a normal quality of life if my water supply became compromised Shill: lol oh no it's not a filter this is just a 12v pump Me: that's worth maybe $50 on Amazon Shill: $849 + $20 shipping
Yeah thats stupid, basiclly $900 for a pump? You can get basically the same thing for a fraction of the cost. Or better yet, put a filter on your 5 gallon can then dunk it into the water.
yeah, well there's two kinds of americans who believe america is the greatest country in the world; those who have never left it, and those who left it to help ruin somebody else's country. Generations of american young men's formative experience abroad was stepping off an airplane and being hit in the face with the stench of open air sewers, immediately cementing how "primitive and backwards" the locals were. Out of sight out of mind is the american Air Force' raison d'etre deleting power grids and water treatment/distribution networks
Just snagged an AR1. With today's climate, stuff like this is becoming necessary for people to have. My plan is to use the AR1 to pump water from my creek into 5 gallon sceptor containers.
I live in the suburbs around Flint MI and the water is the least of this city, Genesee County’s and the State of Michigan’s problems. The water crisis was also in no way shape or form, former Governor Snieders fault, all the decisions were made at the local level and after they were given warnings from DPW they did it anyway to save money to line their own pockets and they still have gotten reelected repeatedly after. One of them has been arrested repeatedly for driving drunk the wrong way down an interstate and stealing computers from City Hall and he still gets reelected because the people here are so fucking stupid. I hate this City, County and State and I can’t wait for my wife to finally agree that this is not a good place for our family to live and grow in.
