LMAO most of the blah blah blah was making an excuse for why the one YOU get doesn't work! These are no more that a capacitor in a pretty box... but they actually do work...on small poorly made inductive motors or shielded pole motors like over oven/bathroom extraction fans or pedestal fans. But about the best you'll get is 6 or 7 watts saving if you are already wasting that power with an inefficient appliance to begin with! And the joule thief...( minutes of your life thief) They are no more than a child's introduction to electronic concepts. Piezo components that can be built into clothing is a far more practical and effective energy generation concept.