the music is definitely still way too high quality for what actually would have been in this game. I followed the development of WWF No Mercy very closely online throughout 2000 as the game was being produced, and remember an interview with AKI/Asmik where they claimed that they had finally figured out a compression method that allowed for much higher quality music than what WrestleMania 2000 had, and that they were very proud of the result. The audio in this video is much closer to what would have been in No Mercy. Go back and listen to what the Nitro theme actually sounds like in Revenge. It sounds way more garbage than this. But still a great video and would have been awesome if the game could have come on a big enough cart to have done this.
The longer i go through the video, some of the tracks do sound pretty good. Like Disco Inferno you nailed. But other ones like DDP, Harlem Heat, Macho Man, nWo sound too high quality. I think Harlem Heat only would have been the synth hook with no voice clips for instance. That Juventud Guerrera theme is another example of one that is way too high quality to actually be in Revenge
I wonder if a rom hacked with the themes would necessarily have to have the same limitations of a cart. The only reason they didn't have 1 gb carts back then was either lack of technology or cost or both. Roms shouldn't have that limitation, should they?
@@CurlyFromTheSwirly One or two songs for each faction would've been enough. Maybe 3 or 4 for the WCW roster because it was so big. But NWO, Raven's flock, and the AKI team just needed one or two
This just makes me appreciate the sheer talent of these video game developers. The character models still look great 20+ years later. Most of their mannerism and tics are there, makes you want to pick it up and play it again.
They did a really good job giving the game an authentic WCW feel. Actual unique entrance themes(and maybe some slight improvements to the AI) would have made the game perfect.
Lets be honest. Models are ok, the texture work really does show its age. But it is an iconic look nonetheless, You can't Say that with a lot of games, Even wrestling games!
This game was crap, the entrace "music" gives me nightmares to this day and so do the weirdass faces of the wrestlers :D If you want something infinitely better just play the PS1 Smackdown games.
That was the only problem I had with this game. I was really disappointed when I first played it and noticed, that the original themes weren't implemented. The successor WWF Wrestlemania 2000 was such a huge step forward when it comes to this.
This is so nostalgic and hella cool editing and compression with the audio to have it fit with the aesthetic, you even have it looping. That’s so sick dude. Love this video
@@Davidovar34 he was fired by Eric bishoff in 98 for no showing even though Ric Flair claims that he got approval from WCW executives to take the day off to go to his son’s amateur wrestling match
Now that full game mods that work with real hardware are starting to become a thing this may be possible. A Wrestlemania 2000 mod called WCW Saturday Night adds loads of music and pretty much a full game overhaul.
The lack of original entrance music, match types and story is what makes no mercy the better game. Revenge is like the perfect wcw expansion to no mercy imo…..except for the non entrance music 😆
Revenge had a lot of cool stuff. Wrestlemania 2000 had an edge with more moves, entrance themes, and a cage match, as well as the road to Wrestlemania. No Mercy a cool in theory game. It has toms of features, but was too slow. I couldn't play it for long. Perhaps NM was ahead of it's time, but W2000 is a much better game on N64. I still play W2000 & Revenge.
@@CurlyFromTheSwirly Revenge was better. WM2000 and No Mercy were just WWF characters replacing WCW characters. The new stuff WM2000/No Mercy added(entrance themes, create a player, story mode, backstage and ladder matches) were cool and all but the overall gameplay was the same.
Even as a WCW guy , I don't think revenge is better. It's not just about theme music, but that would have been nice. What you really have in W2000 Is more moves, CAW ability, you can edit all male wrestlers, and the road to Wrestlemania. Revenge had less moves and less characters. I didn't care for the AWF & DAW wrestlers, instead of putting more WCW guys. It also didn't have any women as playable characters. W2000 lost the handicapped match, but gained a cage match and building your own PPV. You can't edit female characters in W2000, which is lame. You can create one, but it only clones the features of the already in game women. Revenge has the cheat, and W2000 doesn't. lol (I think it is a beneficial thing, cause the game cheats against you.) Personally, the DDP I created in W2000 looked better. Plus the move set I gave to all the WCW wrestlers I created are more fitting. No Mercy is a theory. It had a lot of features, but the game moved too slow. I think it's probably a RAM issue, but it was not enjoyable. The gameplay was not the same on NM. Revenge and W2000 were as you say, the same playability. The only point I will mention that W2000 slows down, and doesn't keep the same movement and playability, is during a cage match. With that being said, even comparing Revenge to World Tour, it wasn't the same game play. Revenge was faster and smoother. NM was a throwback to what WT was like, but with extra features. Music doesn't make up for the lack of playability.
i wonder if it's possible to actually do this via rom hacks? i mean hackers sometimes can blow my mind like adding completely new characters to smash bros 64 for example.
That would be genius, plus adding a little more to the roster, more titles that may have been missed (like VPW 64), as well as hardcore matches and stuff
Because as even admitted by Eric Bischoff, himself, most of the theme songs were rip offs from already owned & licensed by the musicians/personnel who wrote them.
@@marionlayton929 That's probably part of it, but as heard in Nitro, Thunder, and Mayhem, some themes could be used, a few having alterations done to make them copyright friendly. I think a lot of the reason it didn't happen here was because AKI was getting the hang of making licensed wrestling games. They started out with Virtual Pro Wrestling on PS1 which had no license at all and was basically Fire Pro Wrestling in 3D with fictionalized versions of real wrestlers, and each game since then was increasingly more licensed. In WCW vs the World, the fictionalized wrestlers outnumbered the official WCW wrestlers by a pretty large margin. In World Tour, it was 50/50 and still included almost no WCW-specific taunts or moves. Revenge brought the WCW taunts and moves, Nitro and PPV arenas, but still lacked themes and still had like 20% fictionalized wrestlers. Finally, Wrestlemania 2000 came out and every wrestler was a WWF guy and everyone had their themes and titantrons.
I wish rom hacking was more common with the AKI games and something like this could be done. Modding using plugins and gameshark is cool, but it can be kind of complicated and a little buggy. At least VPW2 has some rom hacking.
@@neroameealucard945 they possibly could've had them in. Wrestlemania 2000 had their themes and it was practically the same engine used for the two games
I always wondered if this was a cart size issue or a licensing one. Given how much it added to WWF2000, it’s crazy that they didn’t make an effort to get it in there.
The production of entrances wasn't really a priority for WCW until maybe late '99. In those days no one really liked WCW entrance themes because they were largely generic.
Real music would’ve made this the perfect wcw game. Seriously the real wrestler music was the only thing missing from revenge other than that it was perfect.
Chris Benoits theme was ::Horsey neigh:: ::Horsey gallop:: Neer, neer, neer-neer, neeeeeeeeer. You got Harlem Heats correct. It was the “Yes yes yes. No no no.” Not the “Can you dig it, SUCKAAA!”
It didn't because as even admitted by Eric Bischoff, himself, most of the theme songs were rip offs from already owned & licensed by the musicians/personnel who wrote them.
I never understood why they couldn’t official theme music especially considering a year later WWE got the rights to THQ and put the official theme music for the wrestlers in WWF wrestlemania 2000.
More than likely due to the cartridge capacity more than anything and the production costs they would have had to increase it since it's not like they had much there to remove and replace it with real stuff.
That's only downfall about this classic game didn't have the wrestlers real entrance music this is my second favorite n64 wrestling game all time only to wwf no mercy
Yes however he has never used voodoo child in wcw games such as revenge he used voodoo child in smackdown shut your mouth Wrestlemania 19 and WWE Raw 2 if you use voodoo child for here comes the pain for a video it’ll get blocked that’s why they don’t play voodoo child anymore it’s sad I know
Should be a mod for the low ends. The alts would play their og themes (i.e. Sting and Luger would have their non Wolfpac themes as they make their way to the ring in their alternate pre-wolfpac attires.) While the WolfPac Attires would play the nWo WolfPac theme
Even as a WCW guy, I prefer W2000. It has more moves, more match options (except losing the handicapped match), has create a,wrestle ability, as well as the road to Wrestlemania (vs playing 6 matches without saving) and building your own PPV.
Nice job! Was this done with a rom? The animation (especially with the pyro) looks really smooth compared to the original and I remember it slowing down some if there was a lot going on during the entrances
with all the re-releases these days, why not re-release this game, with their music, and updated graphics. WWE released 3 Best of Nitro, have used Halloween Havoc and, I think Starrcade PPV once, so why not?
