I felt like uploading something different. God knowing that sometimes I need to break from the monotony of Sonic. So I decided to become a Cyberman instead.
*”WE. WILL. SURVIVE.”* I always loved that line from the Cyber Planner. It wasn’t just a statement or a threat. It was a promise. No matter the origin, the intent, or design. Wherever there are humans, wherever the fear of death is present, Cybermen will return. Sometimes familiar, sometimes not so much, but they will return. *They will survive.*
"We are still human" One of the most unsettling and also saddest parts of the story to me. Because even though WE know that evenually, they will become emotionless robots about as far removed from humanity as it gets, they don't. In a way, even though their emotions are being repressed, they still see themselves as human, and their conversion as a necessary evil, which makes it so incredibly sad.
They way the Committee says it in that haunting tone. To me the horrifying part is, they are still human. Brains, nerves, veins. Yet the only thing they go against is one of the most human things - Death. Unless of course it serves their selfish purposes, they have betrayed their own systems. You can understand why the Doctor wouldn't want to inflict immortality on anyone, especially after the events of "World Enough And Time."
@@authorofone Indeed, but that is because he felt he had finally found himself, much like what Tennant said "some new man goes sauntering away" Each regeneration is almost like a fugue state for him, eventually he remembers (but even the mind of a Time Lord can only hold so much information before it gets pushed out) and it's obvious that he feels it's his curse. If Immortality is the Doctor's fate, then quite rightly, he wants to be someone of his own, from a brave centuries old man, he still has needs, feelings, desires of his own and that makes him (the same goes for the Cybermen in their desire to go on) much more human, as if we were all to be immortal, we'd not want to forget everything over time, losing ourselves. What's sad is that one day if the Doctor doesn't die, he will forget. That's why he doesn't want anyone to experience that (as well as seeing friends disappearing over and over) "No one will have to feel this pain, not on my watch" as he once said.
Ryan Hunter I hated when Tennant said that. It made it seem not like he was healing into a new body, but being replaced, which only encouraged fangirls to hate Smith because they believed Tennant had been replaced, not continued
@@authorofone In all honesty I didn't like Smith, he came across to me as pretentious, childish and incredibly cartoonish. He did have some good moments, I thoroughly enjoyed his first series but as time went on he became a parody of himself a little bit. He wasn't for me. But again everyone has different tastes. I suppose fangirls can be too hyped and quite hateful however.
2:37 - _"Where. Is. The future?"_ I can't help but imagine this as a final echo of what the humans who would become the Committee first thought, when Mondas was first thrown clear of our solar system. Looking up at an endless night, at snowfall which would never end, and wondering 'what future could there possibly be?' The first, hesitant acknowledgment that their world was dying, echoing through the gestalt of the Committee in its last moments.
It's a mark of good storytelling that the scene is unsettling despite the context of getting a living supercomputer drunk so Zheng can save Mondas with a giant rocket strapped to the surface of the planet.
There are some Cyberman moments that just send shivers up my spine. The Cyberleader addressing the UK, saying that all will be fine after upgrade in Army of Ghosts, the Patients in World Enough in Time begging for death and basically all of Spare Parts. It's horrible to listen to, but I just can't stop.
@@Alfwin I presume the committee is a cluster of emaciated bodies, connected with feeder tubes, organs suspended out of their bodies, skin stripped away and replace with metal, their brains exposed with needles prodding into the tissue, all their eyes and mouths moving in unison.
Good lord that's utterly chilling. But for me my personal favorite moment is between Commander Zheng and Sisterman Constance "He will be repaired, and so shall you taaaaake them both!" The scene itself is just nervewracking to say the least, although the whole story itself is filled to the brim with chilling moments, especially with Yvonne's little sub-plot.
In both Televised and Audio Stories Spare Parts is definitely up there as one of my favorite Doctor Who Stories of all time. Hell this is still my favorite Big Finish Doctor Who story of all time right here and its a story that's still just as good now as it was in 2002
@@TheSkully343 exactly. Televised and audio, I haven't seen or heard all of it, but a lot, and this is my favorite DW story by a long shot. It' fucking fantastic. And somehow, the fact that there are no images but you know the show and characters well enough that you can make up your own, gruesome images, makes it ten times more unsettling. The audio format, wether it's audiobook or - play, really suits this show incredibly well.
@@metalgamer873 Sort of? There was gonna be a "Genesis of the Cybermen" story but from what I gather it would've been incredibly different to what Spare Parts turned out like.
Its such a shame they didnt sound like this in World Enough And Time. They sound so much creepier here. Maybe its the music, the lack of imagery and leaves more to the imagination, I don't know. I'm 22 and I didn't grow up with the 60's cybermen and I think now they look a little goofy but the essence of their creepiness is still there. With a more modern adaptation the cybermen could honestly have a revival into their original intention. I grew up with the Cybus industries cybermen and they will always have a special place in my heart, but they eventually became just robots. That's what the cybermen are now sadly, just robots. What scared ME as a 2006 watcher as a 9 year old was the fact that my family could be turned into an emotionless abomination. It shakes the soul and terrifies everyone. They've become like generic iron man-like robots which is truly sad. I so want an adaptation of the creepy, unsettling and truly sad cybermen.
I'd totally be down for that too, man. I love the Cybus Industries design, but again, it eventually just became generic robot stuff. And even then, the Cybermen were often relegated to a complete afterthought in some stories like "Closing Time". I will always love the 60's Mondasian Cybermen. They look like failed Hospital experiments. I would kill for an adaptation of this.
The Mondasian Cybermen are by far the creepiest design, they aren't goofy at all (especially in World Enough and Time, where the body horror took a polished makeover to the next level). Spare Parts would be brilliant in live-action. I grew up with RTD Cybermen, but the modern Mondasian Cybermen design takes the cake. Genuinely scary.
Robot Cybermen do have their place in the universe (as long as they're not the 2013 designs), but it depends how they're used. I really want more tragedies with the Cybermen. The CyberMasters and 2017 Mondasians had aspects of that with their designs, but an entire story like Spare Parts would be amazing.
Sure the 60s Cybermen looks a bit goofy, but always remember under that mask is a human face. Staring back, unblinking, unfeeling, lost in the pain of needing to survive.
I've been a bit unsure about delving into to the Doctor Who audios but this has convinced to download Spare Parts, I haven't enjoyed the last few TV series and this sounds a lot more like the Doctor Who I knew and loved.
The cast might sound a bit older, but once the plots get going it really does feel like these Classic Doctors have been brought into the modern age as if they never left, and in some cases had a better run than what the show gave them back in the 70s and 80s. The audio medium might sound a tad alien at first but in a way you just start to picture how things look in your head and in that way it ends up making stories like Spare Parts or Night Thoughts much more terrifying by virtue of your own imagination depending upon how vividly you can envision these stories. So I'd say give Big Finish a try, and if you're looking for a fantastic story to get you started, Spare Parts is a perfect starting point.
@@TheSkully343 I listened to it yesterday and really enjoyed it, there were moments where the actors sounded noticeably older than they were in TV stories set later than spare parts which is a little odd but I got used to it pretty quickly. Luckily I was already quite used to hearing Doctor Who in audio form due to the junked episodes of the 60s. It really did feel a lot like the classic eras modernised and a little more mature which works perfectly for a Cyberman origins story. Some moments were really quite unsettling, the description of "the committee" was especially creepy.
That's exactly it and a perfect description of what Big Finish really does for the Classic Doctors. A perfect mix of their retrospective eras brought into the modern day, especially since the audio medium allows them to get away with stuff that the BBC would never allow to air on TV. Most especially with Spare Parts given just how visceral and desolately cruel this story gets with how desperate Mondas was for survival.
2:10 I always feel like this line is said with bitterness. Like the committee is angry that the humans of Earth gets to be happy while the people of Mondas get only an icy death but no longer have the emotions to express it.
This is easily my favourite Dr Who story, tragic, scary, bleak. It has one weak spot and that is the mondasian northern family, too earthbound. Love to see this televised but the current producers and directors would ruin it. Some great performances here, Peter Davidson, Darrin Nesbit and the girl from Blakes 7 who plays here Drman Allen. Those cyber committee voices, chilling.
the first five serials of the cybermen were the best of the cybermen. the conclusion the doctor reaches at the end of tomb is a special brand of existential horror tho
Crikey! I have to wonder how this became one of the channel's most popular uploads (outside of the obvious) but all the same considering out future I can't blame the relevance. We are human We survive.
Dude if you ever get the chance I full heartedly recommend you give Spare Parts a listen, its a fantastic story man. I hear that you can give it a listen for free on Spotify but on a personal note I think either getting the Audio CD or downloading it from Big Finish's website for a price would be preferable. Big Finish are amazing at what they do.
allways ponderd on what would happen to if the committee was separated from the cyberplanner, would their previous personalities resurface or would they simply be catatonic?
Considering all that they sacrificed to be the way they are I'd imagine that the Committee would probably slowly die without the life support systems their cyber-conversion gave them.
levitan71 they all became one consciousness, it's my personal belief, although I can't prove it they minduploaded themselves into the central machine, merging their consciousness, so I do not think they could separate. I think the only reason the wine worked in the first place was cause it caused a mechanical malfunction.
They aren't the Telosian Cybermen, but its the voice instead used to allow the Mondas Central Committee to communicate as the prototype makeshift 'Cyber-Controller' for the purposes of this story. Although now that you bring it up that is a decent homage to the Telosian Cybermen in more ways than the voice synthesis given how the Telos Cybermen focused a lot more on logic and energy concerns.
Solidus-Skully I thought it was a way of showing how the Mondas Cybermen upgrades and evolved into the Tomb Cybermen, but I haven’t been able to hear the audio story myself.
They've never really gone into the evolution of the Mondas Cybermen into the Telos Cybermen although I'm guessing that might just be explained away with the Colony Ship Cybermen seen in World Enough and Time
Does someone can tell me what there is behind a Mondasian Cyberman mask? I mean why do they still keep their flesh and not only put their brains in mechanical suits as the David Tennant's cybermen era? I know that the most of fans prefer the these cybermen because of the body horror but I think that the cybermen from series 2 were more "realistic", with mondasian cybermen I still have a lot of questions without answers.... how do they clean their bodies... do they take a shower? etc... I think that having most of your human body just brings more disadvantages than advantages...
They do. I believe that the early conversion process involved either replacing or augmenting the basic muscular structure with cybernetic parts. Lots of internal organs were likely replaced as well, such as the lungs, heart, eyes, etc. The Lumic/2005-2011 cybermen were closer to being full robots, though were still technically cyborgs, but these guys are definitely cyborgs
Sigh.....Update on the s12 cybermen next year. They're the *boring new ones.....again.* My fears confirmed, the Mondasian ones were just a one off 'fanservice' to Peter Capaldi. The writers just never learn e.e
They getting a redesign or are they using the Nightmare in Silver era design? Seems kinda weird since they did the whole redesign for the Dalek in Resolution only to go right back to stuff that I would've thought the Chibnall Era would've wanted to distance itself from given The Moffat Era's own shaky reputation.
@@TheSkully343 Nope....They're the 2013 ones. I honestly thought the writers would've learnt from 2017....More human is more scary!!! I don't know how many fracking times it needs to be said
@@TheSkully343 and latex rots quickly....Still, i've no doubt the higher ups that brought back the M-Cybers just saw it as a viewer-grabbing gimmick. As is the way, lol
@@michaeltaylor4375 Ah, that sucks. Not to mention it probably means the Nightmare In Silver variants are probably going back to being generic robot soldiers again.
Hope this helps dude. "He has served his purpose. Dispose of... Dispo-... Dispose of him" "We are human. We survive as Cyberhumans" "We are still human" "Stand away from the power junctions" "We will survive" "Mondas... When Mondas's orbit lost stability our Sciencemen discovered an opposing twin world. Hidden until then behind our sun" "A moon had erupted from the twin planet's surface unbalancing the equilibrium. Mondas left its orbit, research shows that the twin thrives while we face... We face annihilation" "Processing for all-all humans together" "Assistance, logic walls under assault, assistance is requirrreee-aaaaaaaah" "There is... The future" "Aaaaaaah * Cyberman death noises* "
Reed A. 8 month reply but eh, Mr. Hartley used all the cyberplanner's energy (It was basically sucking up the whole grid) to draw every cybermat in the city towards it. The Cybermats drew more power then it could produce, thus it blew up.
